?[ 2010.10.16 03:26:45 ] Deagol1 > not happy with whomever decided griefing blues is a good plan
?[ 2010.10.16 03:26:51 ] Tez Saurus > griefing?
?[ 2010.10.16 03:27:36 ] Tez Saurus > as far as I know, everything has been done in the spirit of education and transparency, not griefing
?[ 2010.10.16 03:28:31 ] Deagol1 > lol
?[ 2010.10.16 03:29:11 ] Deagol1 > well as mittens said the numbers are wrong
?[ 2010.10.16 03:29:25 ] Tez Saurus > when did he say that
?[ 2010.10.16 03:29:34 ] Deagol1 > in his post last saturday
?[ 2010.10.16 03:29:37 ] Tez Saurus > oh
?[ 2010.10.16 03:29:41 ] Tez Saurus > you might want to read his update, bro
?[ 2010.10.16 03:30:00 ] Tez Saurus > one sec, i can grab you a link
?[ 2010.10.16 03:30:13 ] Tez Saurus > i hear you don't like forums, so i can understand how you missed it
?[ 2010.10.16 03:31:10 ] Deagol1 > i will only talk with you about test
?[ 2010.10.16 03:31:14 ] Deagol1 > no other alliance sorry
?[ 2010.10.16 03:32:08 ] Tez Saurus > you brought up mittens
[ 2010.10.16 03:35:34 ] Deagol1 > our members can add properly and are happy with what they have seen
?[ 2010.10.16 03:35:48 ] Deagol1 > thats what matters to us
?[ 2010.10.16 03:36:07 ] Deagol1 > a stable region matters to us also
?[ 2010.10.16 03:36:22 ] Deagol1 > so we avoid griefing locals for no reason
?[ 2010.10.16 03:38:48 ] Tez Saurus > I don't know about that; we've seen chatlogs that indicate you guys purposefully don't go on goon ops, which are critical to keeping the region safe and stable
?[ 2010.10.16 03:39:11 ] Tez Saurus > i've also seen instances of OWN leadership talking about attacking TEST
?[ 2010.10.16 03:39:32 ] Tez Saurus > that doesn't sound like wanting a stable region to me
?[ 2010.10.16 03:39:45 ] Deagol1 > you believe everythign you see online?
[ 2010.10.16 03:57:59 ] Deagol1 > you really don't consider what test have been doing since last week as attacks?
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:05 ] Deagol1 > you have been attackign us
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:08 ] Tez Saurus > not at all, we have been trying to help you
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:23 ] Deagol1 > you spit on diplomacy when you sent durr
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:33 ] Deagol1 > or didn't control him when you found out what he was doing
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:39 ] Deagol1 > help?
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:44 ] Tez Saurus > yes
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:53 ] Tez Saurus > we're very helpful people
?[ 2010.10.16 03:58:55 ] Deagol1 > stiring up shit thats none of your business then poaching our members is help?
?[ 2010.10.16 03:59:00 ] Deagol1 > thats an odd view dude
?[ 2010.10.16 03:59:48 ] Tez Saurus > to be fair, the treatment of 1500 players we share a region with is very much something that would concern us, especially when participation was becoming a problem
?[ 2010.10.16 04:00:42 ] Deagol1 > what problem 95% of our corps told you to go fuck yourselfs in a nice way
?[ 2010.10.16 04:00:53 ] Deagol1 > they think your rude
?[ 2010.10.16 04:00:58 ] Tez Saurus > *you're
[ 2010.10.16 04:03:31 ] Tez Saurus > slightly off topic, i'm being told that apparently an OWN CEO is currently threatening military action against us and goons?
??[ 2010.10.16 04:05:38 ] Tez Saurus > I seriously hope you guys aren't planning on causing a diplomatic incident
?[ 2010.10.16 04:05:50 ] Deagol1 > lke you?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:07 ] Tez Saurus > Apparently
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:13 ] Deagol1 >
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:17 ] Tez Saurus > although we were doing it with only good intentions, I assure you
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:27 ] Tez Saurus > we had no idea you guys were actually siphoning so much of the alliance funds
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:29 ] Deagol1 > that guy has nothing to do with own alliance leadership at all
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:31 ] Tez Saurus > and that it'd interest goons
?[ 2010.10.16 04:06:57 ] Deagol1 > if he i causing trouble for any blue please send us the offending chat and we will deal with it
?[ 2010.10.16 04:07:35 ] Tez Saurus > k, the guy talking to him is gonna send me the chatlog, i'll forward it to you
?[ 2010.10.16 04:07:45 ] Deagol1 > kk
?[ 2010.10.16 04:07:48 ] Tez Saurus > however, do you believe everything you read online?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:09:18 ] Deagol1 > Tez Saurus > we had no idea you guys were actually siphoning so much of the alliance funds
?[ 2010.10.16 04:09:25 ] Tez Saurus > we really didn't
?[ 2010.10.16 04:09:26 ] Deagol1 > see now thats offensive
?[ 2010.10.16 04:09:27 ] Tez Saurus > honest
?[ 2010.10.16 04:21:31 ] Deagol1 > so you can tell others how to run their home?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:22:00 ] Tez Saurus > what did we tell you to do?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:22:20 ] Tez Saurus > i don't recall making any kind of demands
?[ 2010.10.16 04:22:40 ] Deagol1 > aftr pounding on us for a week our members are stayign strong with us, that tells you you don't have to worry they are happy, your jsut making them mad now
?[ 2010.10.16 04:22:55 ] Tez Saurus > however, we did want to make an effort to make sure your memebership was aware of the poor financial management
?[ 2010.10.16 04:23:22 ] Deagol1 > dude they are happy wht more could you want?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:23:47 ] Tez Saurus > i haven't really talked to anyone, I don't really play Eve much
??[ 2010.10.16 04:24:46 ] Deagol1 > you don't really play eve much?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:25:09 ] Deagol1 > your causeing all this grief for nothing and don't even play even?
??[ 2010.10.16 04:24:30 ] Tez Saurus > According to dotlan, 6 of your 30 corps left (although you seem to be recruiting pretty fast to replace them), i'm not sure about your entire membership standing strong but vOv if you say so
[ 2010.10.16 04:36:12 ] Tez Saurus > guess it isn't going well
?[ 2010.10.16 04:42:37 ] Deagol1 > own and test isn't?
?[ 2010.10.16 04:43:04 ] Tez Saurus > no, own and goons
?[ 2010.10.16 04:44:36 ] Deagol1 > i will talk with you about your aliance thats it
?[ 2010.10.16 04:59:29 ] Tez Saurus > why's that?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:01:37 ] Deagol1 > because we need to stay on topic to resolve this issue
?[ 2010.10.16 05:01:42 ] Deagol1 > with test and own
?[ 2010.10.16 05:01:58 ] Deagol1 > you really need to stop worrying about everyone elses alliances man
?[ 2010.10.16 05:02:20 ] Tez Saurus > are you telling me how to run my alliance?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:02:38 ] Deagol1 > you seem o think thats fine i guess so yes
?[ 2010.10.16 05:02:48 ] Deagol1 > unti'll you stop telling me how to run mine
?[ 2010.10.16 05:03:24 ] Tez Saurus > i haven't done anything of the sort, though.
?[ 2010.10.16 05:03:32 ] Deagol1 > lol k
?[ 2010.10.16 05:04:24 ] Deagol1 > Tez Saurus > i haven't done anything of the sort, though.
?[ 2010.10.16 05:04:26 ] Deagol1 > i agree
?[ 2010.10.16 05:04:50 ] Tez Saurus > so does that mean you're going to apologize?
[ 2010.10.16 05:05:17 ] Tez Saurus > for insinuating I have been doing something that I have not been doing.
?[ 2010.10.16 05:05:26 ] Deagol1 > you attack my alliance for no reason then want me to say sorry?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:05:46 ] Deagol1 > show me insults please
?[ 2010.10.16 05:05:54 ] Tez Saurus > I never said insults
?[ 2010.10.16 05:06:05 ] Deagol1 > insinuatiions then
?[ 2010.10.16 05:06:36 ] Tez Saurus > you insinuated that i tell you how to run your alliance, using this false accusation as grounds to tell me how to run mine
?[ 2010.10.16 05:06:53 ] Tez Saurus > HOW DARE YOU
[ 2010.10.16 05:13:42 ] Deagol1 > if test say its over we will go out of our way to make sure no one causes further grief
?[ 2010.10.16 05:13:53 ] Deagol1 > after what has happened we will do that np
?[ 2010.10.16 05:14:13 ] Tez Saurus > i don't think you've caused us any grief
?[ 2010.10.16 05:14:35 ] Deagol1 > exactly
?[ 2010.10.16 05:15:02 ] Tez Saurus > aside from hurting our feelings by being mean
?[ 2010.10.16 05:15:07 ] Tez Saurus > when we tried to help you
?[ 2010.10.16 05:15:18 ] Deagol1 > lol online can be harsh dude jsut the way it is
?[ 2010.10.16 05:15:30 ] Deagol1 > k thnx for the help but were good
?[ 2010.10.16 05:15:39 ] Deagol1 > appreciate the thought though
?[ 2010.10.16 05:16:04 ] Tez Saurus > so you agree that we were being helpful and weren't griefing you?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:16:56 ] Deagol1 > i believe thats what you are saying
?[ 2010.10.16 05:17:07 ] Tez Saurus > sounds like something i'd say
?[ 2010.10.16 05:18:27 ] Tez Saurus > does that mean you guys are gonna be coming on fleets?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:18:41 ] Tez Saurus > because last night was a huge op and i only saw 4 own there
?[ 2010.10.16 05:18:50 ] Deagol1 > we will continue to be on fleets as normal yes
?[ 2010.10.16 05:18:56 ] Tez Saurus > so 4 is normal?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:19:12 ] Deagol1 > sometimes when we had a shit load on al day yes
?[ 2010.10.16 05:19:33 ] Deagol1 > also people are a little put off by all the blue on blue spam to be honest
?[ 2010.10.16 05:20:06 ] Tez Saurus > did you tell them that online can be harsh dude jsut the way it is?
[ 2010.10.16 05:20:44 ] Deagol1 > leaders need thick skin
?[ 2010.10.16 05:20:57 ] Tez Saurus > like when you were yelling at montolio?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:21:01 ] Deagol1 > general people just wnt to kill stuff
?[ 2010.10.16 05:21:06 ] Deagol1 > not get into local spam
?[ 2010.10.16 05:21:15 ] Deagol1 > he is a leader
?[ 2010.10.16 05:21:33 ] Tez Saurus > it was pretty disrespectful
?[ 2010.10.16 05:22:01 ] Deagol1 > so is sticking your nose into our business
?[ 2010.10.16 05:22:20 ] Deagol1 > own wil move forward though
?[ 2010.10.16 05:22:23 ] Deagol1 > we can get ovr this
?[ 2010.10.16 05:22:37 ] Tez Saurus > i can understand that, I'd hate to get called out on mismanagement, too
?[ 2010.10.16 05:23:36 ] Deagol1 > how can yo call me out on that when you have never even been in the alliance?
?[ 2010.10.16 05:23:48 ] Deagol1 > your actions of late though i can cerntainly call you out
?[ 2010.10.16 05:23:53 ] Tez Saurus > okay
?[ 2010.10.16 05:23:53 ] Deagol1 > test started this for no reason
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:00 ] Deagol1 > thats not in the best interest of your members at all
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:08 ] Tez Saurus > we've stated the reason multiple times
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:12 ] Deagol1 > to start grief with a local blue alliance for no reason
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:19 ] Tez Saurus > our members have been having a great time, not sure what you mean
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:21 ] Deagol1 > very mismanaged
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:36 ] Tez Saurus > i think it was very well managed
?[ 2010.10.16 05:24:51 ] Deagol1 > not in the best interest of the region either
?[ 2010.10.16 05:25:04 ] Tez Saurus > well
?[ 2010.10.16 05:25:12 ] Tez Saurus > to be fair, i haven't heard the rest of the region complaining
?[ 2010.10.16 05:25:41 ] Tez Saurus > if anything fleet participation has been up across the board
?[ 2010.10.16 05:25:50 ] Tez Saurus > so you could make the argument that we've done a very great thing.
?[ 2010.10.16 05:25:57 ] Deagol1 > no
?[ 2010.10.16 05:27:09 ] Deagol1 > own corps have made it clear after being contacted by your leader, they are happy with own
?[ 2010.10.16 05:27:19 ] Tez Saurus > except for the 1/3 that left
?[ 2010.10.16 05:27:21 ] Deagol1 > that should end it if you really care about them and the region
?[ 2010.10.16 05:27:33 ] Tez Saurus > and the others that have contacted us that haven't left yet
?[ 2010.10.16 05:27:40 ] Deagol1 > we have started cutting soem fat lately so...
?[ 2010.10.16 05:27:42 ] Deagol1 > not loss