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"Oslo Bombings" or "How I learned to stop worrying and love shooting up youth camps."

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    As reported by CNN, at least one, possibly two bombs have gone off in Oslo since 4pm local time, apparently targeted at the prime minister and other government agencies. Two have been confirmed dead, with dozens injured. Shortly after, someone dressed as a policeman opened fire at a Labor Party youth camp on an island outside the capital. Events are still unfolding, so obviously the numbers dead and wounded may fluctuate. Stay safe to any of you who might be in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J'envie Smack View Post
    As reported by CNN, at least one, possibly two bombs have gone off in Oslo since 4pm local time, apparently targeted at the prime minister and other government agencies. Two have been confirmed dead, with dozens injured. Shortly after, someone dressed as a policeman opened fire at a Labor Party youth camp on an island outside the capital. Events are still unfolding, so obviously the numbers dead and wounded may fluctuate. Stay safe to any of you who might be in the area.
    Seems the attacks were focused on Arbeiderpartiet (AP), but very little information is getting out at the moment, and there's a lot of confusion. There seems to be more dead on Ut°ya (AP's Youth Camp), where a scandinavion looking man in a police uniform killed people execution style, although a lot of people (myself included) were wounded, many very severly, by the Sentrum bombing. I wouldn't be surprised to see casulties from the bomb rise the next 24 hours as people die from injuries.

    Anyone foreign in Oslo should go back to your hotel or wherever you're staying and stay inside; although the attacks seem to be internal political extremists, the police are apparntly looking for two more bombs, and fear they may go off in high population-density areas such as train stations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Caffeine View Post
    Seems the attacks were focused on Arbeiderpartiet (AP), but very little information is getting out at the moment, and there's a lot of confusion. There seems to be more dead on Ut°ya (AP's Youth Camp), where a scandinavion looking man in a police uniform killed people execution style, although a lot of people (myself included) were wounded, many very severly, by the Sentrum bombing. I wouldn't be surprised to see casulties from the bomb rise the next 24 hours as people die from injuries.

    Anyone foreign in Oslo should go back to your hotel or wherever you're staying and stay inside; although the attacks seem to be internal political extremists, the police are apparntly looking for two more bombs, and fear they may go off in high population-density areas such as train stations.
    Did you see the bomb go off? Early reports suggests it was a car bomb, did you see anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt View Post
    Did you see the bomb go off? Early reports suggests it was a car bomb, did you see anything?
    I didn't see the actual explosion, I just heard a large boom and got glass shards all over me. By the looks of things the bomb went of inside the building, so probably not a carbomb.

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    I didn't know you were from Norway, John. Glad to hear you're all right, considering the circumstances and for any given definition of all right. I tried PMing tgr to make sure he was ok but either my messages aren't going out properly (they're not in my sent folder) or he's got other priorities on his mind right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Caffeine View Post
    Seems the attacks were focused on Arbeiderpartiet (AP), but very little information is getting out at the moment, and there's a lot of confusion. There seems to be more dead on Ut°ya (AP's Youth Camp), where a scandinavion looking man in a police uniform killed people execution style, although a lot of people (myself included) were wounded, many very severly, by the Sentrum bombing. I wouldn't be surprised to see casulties from the bomb rise the next 24 hours as people die from injuries.

    Anyone foreign in Oslo should go back to your hotel or wherever you're staying and stay inside; although the attacks seem to be internal political extremists, the police are apparntly looking for two more bombs, and fear they may go off in high population-density areas such as train stations.
    Yeah, the information I was getting was spotty at best. Luckily all my friends that live in/around Oslo were out of town/not in the city center at the time, so everything I'm hearing is second-hand at best. Glad to hear you're at least well enough to post; my thoughts are with all of you guys over there.

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    I don't get it, what is the assumed political motivation? I'm not familiar with European political parties.

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    I'm glad I was out of Oslo on this particular day, but I also feel sad and horrified at what's happened. To answer Poaw: it's hard to say. Some are tossing around the publication of the Mohammed caricatures, but it's just a wild guess at this point. Looking at the devastation it's hard to believe it's just one bomb planted by the one person the police so far has apprehended, so we'll just have to see and wait. It's a small blessing, if I may be allowed the expression, that this happened during the national holiday period, because otherwise the amount of casualties would be tenfold at the very least.

    This is such a sad day for my country

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    Our world is so fucked.

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    Small update; so far 91 has been confirmed dead, the vast majority from the Ut°ya shooting, where 84 have been confirmed killed so far.

    The arrested (alledged) shooter, Anders Behring Breivik is a rightwing extremists WoW player.

    Attachment 1214

    Prepare for the great Norwegian purge of anyone with a WoW account.

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    Shocking video image from the sites of these attacks. Yesterday police didn┤t say how many were killed or injured in the Utoya camp site but today they say it is eighty + (some report even 84 people killed). A sad day indeed..

    http://www.reuters.com/resources_v2/...eoId=217400532

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    My first thought it had something to do with Libya but this seems now like a Oklahoma city bombing.

    Stay strong bros, our thoughts are with you.

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    This sucks a lot. I have a bunch of friends living in Norway, some in Oslo, luckily none of them have been directly affected by this. When the hell did our quiet little corner here in the north get so fucked up? Us Swedes got our first suicide bomber this winter and now this crap.
    Much love and sympathy from Sweden my nordic brothers and sisters.

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    Reuters says the previous PM was on the island before the shooting too, so this guy really knew where his targets were
    +rep ;)

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    I must admit vague confusion, as he looks nothing like any right-wing Christian I've ever dealt with. More of a disaffected Generation X software engineer.

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    Well he does have an interest in bodybuilding and pops his collar
    +rep ;)

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    Attachment 1217

    This is Mittens,

    Attachment 1218
    This is mittens with blond hair.

    Anyone else seeing the simmilaritys?

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    So wait, this guy killed eighty-or-near-it people with a freaking gun.

    He's either the greatest marksman in the world or he looked like freaking Rambo with a giant belt of ammunition over his shoulder when he came onto that island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    So wait, this guy killed eighty-or-near-it people with a freaking gun.

    He's either the greatest marksman in the world or he looked like freaking Rambo with a giant belt of ammunition over his shoulder when he came onto that island.
    He was dressed as a cop and kill mostly kids (13-18 y/olds) who were trapped on a small island, and surrendered without a fight once the police showed up. 30-40 or so were killed in one go when he tricked a group into thinking he was a police officer sent as a responce to the shooting on the island, and when the group aproached him thinking he would help them get safe off the island; he mowed them down with a machine pistol.

    He was neither a great marksman nor Rambo, he was a calm psychopath dressed as a cop killing defenceless kids who had nowhere to run.

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    Thing is, there have been plenty of calm psychopaths with automatic or semiautomatic weapons attacking defenseless kids. School shootings come to mind.

    Most of them manage nowhere near this kind of carnage. They run out of ammunition or they just can't aim that well, so they don't manage to kill many people. The Virginia Tech shooter, who subverted all the usual cliches by being well-practiced with his weapons and following up even if a target went down, didn't even come close to killing this many people.

    Either he one-shot-one-killed his way across the island with a machine pistol, which is actually remarkably impressive as a feat of skill, or he fired hundreds or thousands of rounds and I'm not really sure where he could have carried them all.

    For that matter, he was taken alive; that's unheard of in rampages like this. He more or less defies every convention of the typical shooting rampage. The books will have to be rewritten because of this man. And I'd like to know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deira View Post
    Attachment 1217

    This is Mittens,

    Attachment 1218
    This is mittens with blond hair.

    Anyone else seeing the simmilaritys?
    This is a bad joke my friend. If not by the years of posting you have given, I would mark you for rep destruction.

    Take this as a friendly warning mate.

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    What's most "impressive" of this all is the amount of planning involved in this.
    Not only did he construct and detonate a powerful bomb, he used it as a decoy, going to a tiny little island with no escaperoute to massacre so many people.

    Breivik moved in late June or early July to the rural small town of Rena in ┼mot, Hedmark county, about 140 km (86 miles) northeast of Oslo,[3] where he operated a farming sole proprietorship under the name "Breivik Geofarm".[10] There is speculation that he could have used the company as a cover to legally obtain large amounts of artificial fertilizer and other chemicals for the manufacturing of fertilizer explosives, if he is the perpetrator in the bombing attack.[47] A farming supplier sold Breivik's company six tonnes of fertilizer in May

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    Supposed this is the guy on the WoW forums: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/927077585?page=1

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    ol conservatism

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    Not that I love to get neg-repped, but why is Fartman not white-knighting for this hero of Conservatism yet?

    On a serious note, I wonder how long it will take for people to realize that things like this are rooted in irrational belief. Not committed because of a certain, specific idea but because the mind is infected with irrational belief itself, regardless of what that belief is (liberal, conservative, religious, blah, blah). If you've got a belief or system of beliefs you think is worth killing for you're no better than this idiot. That's my feeling on it anyway, take it for what you want.

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    This lunatic is no right wing or left wing. At least in the sense I make out to be.

    I am what you call a old republican: free market, capitalist with strict rules on financial market, pro death penalty, pro drugs under medical supervision. Am I a libertarian? But I like the free healthcare and schools. A libertarian humanist hehe. I like Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders, go figure.

    A maniac will find what ever reason he needs to suit his needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    This lunatic is no right wing or left wing. At least in the sense I make out to be.

    I am what you call a old republican: free market, capitalist with strict rules on financial market, pro death penalty, pro drugs under medical supervision. Am I a libertarian? But I like the free healthcare and schools. A libertarian humanist hehe. I like Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders, go figure.

    A maniac will find what ever reason he needs to suit his needs.
    pretty much, hes anti islam/anti marxism/antimulti culturaism, and was trying very hard not to reject any "possible voters" by not hardlining anything else.
    Venna School of Though:

    - Cultural Conservatism (anti-multiculturalism)
    - Against Islamization
    - Anti-racist
    - Anti-authoritarian (resistance to all authoritarian ideologies of hate)
    - Pro-Israel/defender of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries
    - Defender of the cultural aspects of Christianity
    - To reveal the Eurabia project and the Frankfurt School (neu-marxisme/culturemarxisme/multicultureism)
    - Is not an economic policy and can gather everything from socialists to capitalists for its cause.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLk1z...ipcontrinter=1

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    eems more like a neu "crusade"/counterjihad(his words) agains muslims (even tho he was gunning for their "assistants" by gunning down "marxist boy scouts")
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    So apparently he Norwegian Police had some kind of emergency today again?

    Also Breivik apparently gave a statement yesterday but there's not much about it in the news yet.

    Oslo, Jul 24: Anders Behring Breivik, the detained supect of the Norway twin blasts claimed that he has been preparing the terror attacks since 2009. Breivik's statements shocked many when he also claimed the "atrocious killing" were "necessary."

    Talking to a TV Channel, Breivik's lawyer Geir Lippestad said, "He has said that he believed the actions were atrocious, but that in his head they were necessary."

    An electronic book comprising 1,500 pages has been published by a Norwegian website. The book, which was reportedly authored by Breivik, said, "Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike."

    According to the police, the deadly twin militant attacks in Norway on Saturday, Jul 22 left at least 91 dead and many injured. The deceased were mainly young people attending a summer camp of the youth wing of Norway's ruling Labour Party on an idyllic island.

    Breivik, who is expected to court trial on Monday, Jul 25, has also been arrested for the bombing of Oslo's government district that killed seven people.

    OneIndia News

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    classic success story of multiculturalism and gun control in action.

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    Condolences goes to the injured and victims. Why were the police 90 minutes late to an island, where a PM or former PM was going to speak?

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    How would you feel if you lost relative/friend in the shooting and know that:

    1) The shooter may receive maximum of 21 year sentence in jail according to Norwegian laws (more if he is deemed threat to public);
    2) He will serve his sentence here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-new-jail.html.

    Norwegian legal system is fucking retarded.

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    Many legal systems have an upper limit on how long a sentence can be. And many also have a system in which a sentence can be extended as it nears its end and comes up for review. Norway, I believe, uses that system. So this guy will, if not found insane in the membrane, be sentenced to 21 years and after 19 his case will come up and he'll get another 5 years or something. Repeat.

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    The fact is that dude who blew up a car bomb in central Oslo and killed 7 people and then disguised as police officer and slaughtered 80+ teenage children with automatic weapons can actually be out on parole in 10 years. Not likely, but it can happen and in worst case he will have to serve his 21 year maximum penalty.

    I agree that in scandinavia prison sentences are largely a joke and even in very brutal and violent crimes people can get laughably short sentences. Does it sound like justice if a guy kidnaps a girl, beats her up multiple times, threatens her life, rapes her (does this repeatedly during several days) and gets a two year sentence? Protip: If you are going to seriously fuck someone up always rape them cos then you are more likely to get a shorter sentence. This is so messed up in so many levels that i can┤t even begin to comprehend. But have no worries! Judicial system is having an internal investigation about the matter and maybe in a short period of 3-5 years they come up with a statement that this is in conflict with common mans sense of justice.

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    I started reading up on the Norway legal system but I quickly realized why I had trouble staying awake for the law courses... Anyway, maybe he can get out after 21 without the courts extending his sentence. I wonder though if he's not more likely to spend the rest of his life in the cuckoo's nest.

    Late edit; Also I don't think any legal system can protect a society from someone like this guy. He seems motivated, capable and utterly fucking void of empathy. So if it's deterrents you're after, harsh sentences won't do the job.

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    I agree with Jimmychrist, absolutely. Hars punishments don┤t make the society safer.

    What is noticeable here is the change in scandinavian political environment. I see basicly the same thing happening in all nordic countries. Rise of the right wing politics, misplaced nationalism and all round more intolerant political and intellectual climate. I think this event will definately tone down politicians rhetoric on immigration and issues regarding multicultural society. They are wily bastards who choose their words carefully and don┤t want to be any way associated to these resent events in Norway.

    Some fools that have been quoted on Anders B Breivik┤s 1500 pages long "book" have already started to backpedal their way out of it all.

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    Well just because he kills a lot of people doesn't mean all his ideas are invalid. Some people are very wary of multiculturalism when they compare what they have now and the visible alternative, Islamist theocracy. As for the posh jail cells, doing hard time would just make people more resentful (they already believe they are victims) and most will be released some day. That article even has some populist bullshit like noting the 50% female guard ratio as if mimicking a normal cross section of society is too good for people who will probably be released eventually
    +rep ;)

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    Anders 1500 page manifesto is a nice look into his sick mind. Although half of it is stolen from Ted Kaczynski the Unabomber.

    He mentions Iceland in it. He made a mathematical formula that stated you needed to kill 1000 people per million to make society better. So he stated he needed to kill 366 people here. The main focus group is teachers, professors, doctors, judges, leftist, and just every body that is intellectual or is in a place of power.

    Pol Pot killed 3 million in a similar attempt to create a perfect society.

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    Hmm, 100k est civy deaths in a population of 30mil in Iraq, that is not an order of magnitude off or anything
    +rep ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    Anders 1500 page manifesto is a nice look into his sick mind. Although half of it is stolen from Ted Kaczynski the Unabomber.

    He mentions Iceland in it. He made a mathematical formula that stated you needed to kill 1000 people per million to make society better. So he stated he needed to kill 366 people here. The main focus group is teachers, professors, doctors, judges, leftist, and just every body that is intellectual or is in a place of power.

    Pol Pot killed 3 million in a similar attempt to create a perfect society.

    A guy in a Swedish forum ran most(all actually I think) of it through some plagiarism detection software, seems like the vast majority of it is stolen from a variety of authors, some credited but most not. Still reading his diary was very interesting indeed, some of it would make him come off as the average internet nerd(I was surprised he used so much AOL-lingo) while other parts pretty much portrayed him as batshit insane.
    The FAQ portion was also pretty fascinating.

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    He even has a section on how to look normal for your up and coming maniacs.

    Dye your hair, get a nice haircut, get a tan, work out, be clean and smell nice. How to act and such. His facebook page looked like a run of a mill techno douche bag. But if you look more closely you get this feeling about him. Especially from his photos, that he is pretending. The guy just gives off bad vibes even though he is trying his best to look normal.

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    I personally don't trust any man who has professional photos of himself taken.
    +rep ;)

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    That beard...

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    If he ever gets out of jail he won't live two hours outside without plastic surgery and evaccing to some central africa shithole.

  46. God is dead. They found his carcass in 2019.. Mr Coloredshirt's Avatar
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    jfyi he can be held in "confinement", where he can appeal every 5 years but if denied can be held for ~infinity~

    I like that. 127 Hours-esque punishment would be ok too, except the rock would be on his junk so he would have to cut off his body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    Well just because he kills a lot of people doesn't mean all his ideas are invalid.
    You should notroll kill yourself now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unifix View Post
    Condolences goes to the injured and victims. Why were the police 90 minutes late to an island, where a PM or former PM was going to speak?
    because in many european countries prime ministers could theoretically walk the streets on a daily basis even without a bodyguard. (not that they do it that often anmyore, security detachments are a standard anyway)
    it's an image of our oh so open minded and peaceful society that does not always life up to our own expectation. sometimes it would be better to prepare for the worst.

    a lot of avoidable mistakes were made (f.e. no active helicopter crew on stand by for the only police helicopter in the area, if the reports were right, i'm pretty sure there is alot of fingerpointing and knife-sharpening going on behind the curtains.)
    Timeo apis et mellum ferentes.

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    Oh Glenn Beck you so crazy.

    Glenn Beck criticized for comparing Norway victims to "Hitler Youth"
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...16-503544.html

  50. "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Tradyk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    Well just because he kills a lot of people doesn't mean all his ideas are invalid.
    Wow, I just realized this guy is in my alliance now.

    Permission to shoot blues erryday?

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