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    So yeah there was no point us dropping dreads and/or supers and either a) Cleaning up the carriers and stemming the endless stream of battleships coming eagerly to the slaughter, or b) Encouraging a supercap escalation which we would not be able to win. I can't imagine PL dropping supers to save TESTs slowcats, but to kill CFC caps? That would be a different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    although I won't post poorly
    A reformed character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    Who are you in game or who are you with?

    Meh whatever, any publicity is good publicity, thanks for thinking we are awesome man!
    Eh, you guys always had the best fleet porn.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zI...=TLjE6M4u97yaE

    It's good background music while reading that eve-o thread

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    Completely dodging his question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alljump View Post
    A reformed character!
    Nah I still think you are idiots for not dropping dreads when you had the sub cap domination. Anyone dropping supers into that with knowing the opponents had a comparable Super Armada would be asking to get raped and publicly flogged. Basically if N3 or PL ordered supers to counter 40 stand by dreads with 2:1 the 3:1 subcap numbers....they would literally be DBRB.

    You would have killed them all maybe....but who knows what N3/PL/TEST had cooking before the node shat the bed. I know of at least 1 unaffiliated BS fleet of about 120 dudes with logi who were on their way, not me personally just an old friend. I actually don't log in, I am like an irrelevant Mittani. I just can't grasp why you wouldn't wipe that fleet out, well outside of CFC not understanding why PL/N3 wouldn't drop supers to counter 40-50 dreads in a TIDI system where they don't have a hope in hell of taking the sub cap fight.

    But ya....I am not that reformed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doublestep View Post
    Completely dodging his question
    I answered his question. You just aren't privileged enough to know what it was.
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    I don't know how it would have ended if allowed to run it's natural course, I'm going to assume everyone on both sides not in a carrier was having as much fun as me; the sub cap fights were brilliant. I don't know if we could have killed all the carriers but they were dying pretty well before the sub cap reinforcements turned up.

    Anyway, does anyone know why the aggression mechanic doesn't work when a server crashs? I can imagine it wouldn't make sense for it to be persistent if the server is down for longer than ten minutes, but in this case the server was up pretty quickly well within the normally aggression timers.

    This fight aside it's not uncommon for CCP to take a huge shit on large fights, it would seem sensible that they have a short. temporary problem that the all the timers were persistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domino View Post
    I don't know how it would have ended if allowed to run it's natural course, I'm going to assume everyone on both sides not in a carrier was having as much fun as me; the sub cap fights were brilliant. I don't know if we could have killed all the carriers but they were dying pretty well before the sub cap reinforcements turned up.

    Anyway, does anyone know why the aggression mechanic doesn't work when a server crashs? I can imagine it wouldn't make sense for it to be persistent if the server is down for longer than ten minutes, but in this case the server was up pretty quickly well within the normally aggression timers.

    This fight aside it's not uncommon for CCP to take a huge shit on large fights, it would seem sensible that they have a short. temporary problem that the all the timers were persistent.
    Node resets log ships completely out of the game, removing the ship and clearing timers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    Nah I still think you are idiots for not dropping dreads when you had the sub cap domination.
    And if we had, would test have jumped the extra 50 carriers in? No, they most likely would not have, thus eliminating that escalation in deepdicking.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    You would have killed them all maybe....but who knows what N3/PL/TEST had cooking before the node shat the bed.
    I'd love to see what they had cooking, since we drove their fleets completely off the field/out of system at least once, and we were deepdicking their second wave handily as well.

    Basing in-game actions on whether or not CCP will fatfinger a command is retarded, and the only reason you're able to say "well why didn't you drop caps" is due to 20/20 hindsight in the aftermath of that fatfinger incident. If they hadn't fatfingered that command, it is very likely that their entire carrier fleet (including the reinforcement fleet) would've been decimated one by one, just like it was up until that point.
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    Whatever the outcome would have been, CFC still suck and N3 has probably gained a huge amount of respect for sending in battleship fleet after battleship fleet in what was frankly a futile attempt to save the Test capitals against 1300 CFC dudes. CFC would never ever do that to save any of there allies, they would be like "fuck them we don't have enough dudes and its your own fault"

    To be fair I'm glad Test got some luck with the node crashing, its happened to CFC and especially the old RSF many times in the past so quit whining CFC shit happens yeah?

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    The Setup:


    Test had been onlining a new IHUB in Z9PP-H to augment their sovereignty claim over the system. CFC came into assault and kill the IHUB before it came online. Making sovereignty much easier to break in the system. CFC had a siege bomber fleet and Mega fleet in system with numbers at around 300 total for CFC. Test requested some help to save the IHUB from dieing before it went online. I agreed tp quickly form PL Slowcats to come in and stabilize the situation whilst Test formed another slowcat fleet and N3 formed a subcap fleet to help with our eventual extraction of Slowcats.


    ACT I The Best Laid Plan:


    PL made our entrance cleanly into system and started killing Megas and putting reps on the IHUB preventing it's demise. Within 10 minutes Test Slowcats arrived and added to the rep power. CFC starts pinging wildly for reinforcements as they now see 2 slowcat fleets on grid with little to no support. Finally after some delay N3 are able to get in system with Drone Domis and Triage. The fight rages on for 2+ hours with small breaks as CFC repositions and awaits for dps. Furthermore whilst this is all happening bomber fleets from both sides are making runs with mixed success. However both CFC and Test land a good run with CFC obliterating N3 Domis and Test nuking a fuckyou fleet to completion.


    All the while both sides are pinging for more bodies to poop sock into system to turn the tides for their side. At about the 3 hour mark the talk of extraction got serious as CFC were able to reinforce with greater ease then N3 & Test. Now mind you Slowcats were designed by me to walk into hell and scream come at me. However a fleet with Niddhoggers , Chimeras and Thanatos (thanatai thanatoses) makes not a Slowcat fleet. The decreased cap range of nids and thanny's plus the hugely inferior EHP makes them a one legged Slowcat fleet at best. It was clear after barely saving nids in sub 10% structure that extraction for test was priority.

    However there were major issues with the extraction plan. N3 support fleet was creamed and highly ineffective. Also there was 0 friendly pos's in system and with it being a major holiday and getting late in EU most Test friendly groups were short on logi dudes to erect extraction towers. However PL were able to ninja up a small tower with just enough fuel and stront to help extract. So alignments were called with exit cynos at the ready and then the long wait started. The painful wait a FC has to go through with Slowcats for the perfect time to fleet warp out. Because 1 mis-aligned ships means a 2 billion isk scar on your killboard and a 2 billion isk smile on the bad guys face.


    Sometime in this haze of 4 hours a Test Rokh fleet arrived. CFC sensing our extraction were emboldened to engage and keep us pinned. So for the next hour it was a series of Slowcats aligning stopping and trying to kill things regrouping the fleet and the repeating the whole process. At one point the Test and PL Slowcat fleet became wadded up in a giant carrier orgy. Let me tell you friends repositioning 2 Slowcat fleets in 10% TIDI is a 15 minute process. This further delayed the extraction as Test and PL carriers were bouncing off each other making fleetwarps impossible without leaving a portion of the fleet to die a silent miserable and defenseless death. So after we discombobulated the fleet from each other alignments were called again. In command channels calls were made that extraction was happening at first opportunity and that all fleets should be ready to fleetwarp. Confirmations from everyone were given and in a few minutes later Test came in with a massive bomb wave pushing 2 of 3 fleets off grid. This was the chance I checked grid and saw Test Slowcats unbubbled as well as most of the subcaps. I fleetwarped PL off and in sudden horror watched as 2 dictors landed close to Test Slowcats. I had told my fleet to jump on land as we were fleetwarping to a Small control tower and bounces were inevitable. All PL made it out clean and were able to jump back home.
    However Test Slowcats were not so lucky

    The Intermission:


    As PL arrived back in Syndicate it became very clear in a short period of time that Test Slowcats would all die a slow painful death if more intervention didn't happen. So Test through more subcaps into system trying to free the Slowcats. However , CFC was having none of it and not chancing anything sensing blood in the water. CFC must have pinged for dictors and reinforcements every 2-3 minutes because as 1 dictor or bs would die 2 more would take it's place. Lazarus Teleraven and I are very good friends and often talk about fights as we are in the midst of them. Laz however wasn't talking much it was quite clear he was a busy man a man getting ready to serve a good ole prison rape scene on lil ole Test. PL reshipped to bombers with the plan to doom portal on test slows to kill bubbles and tackle. Furthermore CFC had 2 Mega fleets right on top of Test slows. However we were delayed due to a cunning Black Legion dictor doing the continual cycle of undock -> bubble -> redock. This delayed PL and as this was happening Test Slowcats started falling to the 300+ BS hulls reigning hell upon them.

    ACT II Salvage Duty:

    Z9PP-H was now hovering close to the 2000 player mark with 1400ish of those being CFC. Test had lost 3 carriers at this point and were quite of the eventual outcome their circumstances found them in. N3 and Test were having a horrid time forming reinforcements due to a combination of the holiday and massive TIDI anywhere near or as far as 15 jumps away from Z9PP-H. I decided although most likely it was a suicide mission that PL would doomportal on the small % chance it would clear bubbles and tackle of Test Slowcats so they could bail. However due to the incident with being delayed from delaying dictors in Syndicate by the time we got on the titan with our bombers CFC had pulled 20km from our incyno point. "FUCK IT LETS JUST GO IN AND BELIEVE" I said. So we bridge in and start doomportaling but the shear amount of dictors on grid the spread of the field and the amount of anti-bomber ships on grid rendered the PL doomportal inept and pointless.


    Like Wiley Coyote I stumbled back to my ACME drawing board looking for a new plan. When low and behold a wild Vince Draken appears and starts getting N3 in gear of reshipping into Rokhs. Test reforms another Rokh fleet and PL forms blaster rokhs as Megas are super close to our incyno point. Test as a backup forms more slowcats and some blap dreads incase the fight turned we could instantly up the bet to prosecute CFC into retreat. I just want to stress that everyone agreed those Test reinforcement caps were not coming in off the bat and would only enter if the 3 rokh fleets could get CFC on the backfoot.

    All 3 reinforcement fleets get into position and come in. N3's 4 triage were instantly vaporized and I was headshotted by CFC as soon as I broke invul. Test however made a pretty clean entrance with there rokhs and taking down targets. In fact all 3 fleets were taking down targets but I have to say "My hat is off in how CFC just poured more ships into the fight". We were doing raynor scans and even with 3 rokh fleets pounding megas we were not making a dent.

    The Crescendo: HOLY GOD TO THE SHEAR TERROR OF EVERYONE ON TEST SIDE THE SLOWCAT REINFORCEMENTS AND BLAP DREADS JUMPED IN. I MEAN ARE YOU LITERALLY FUCKING KIDDING ME WERE MY EXACT THOUGHTS.


    If you thought a bad situation couldn't get worse let me paint you this picture. Now Test had 120 carriers on field and 10+ blap dreads at the same time 3 rokh fleets are being taken apart by a full fledged prison rape boner by CFC's greatest stars Mr Vee and Lazarus Teleraven. PL had to limp off field "Squad Broken Style" and much the same fate for N3 as they had 0 reps after their triage was vaporized. However this sacrifice of Rokh fleets and and idiot guided cap reinforcements stopped the loss of Test Slowcats for NOW. However it was only a matter of time before the near 2000 CFC and Black Legion started to take apart tired Test Slowcats.

    I talked with Shadoo and Vince and a few others weighing options and considering washing our hands and accepting the loss of 120 Test carriers . For Test this would have put them in financial hardships. It would also give CFC a 2 week minimum free pass to rape Fountain as they so chose. I guess Shadoo felt a little sad for Test and told me " Well you can go in with 200 slows and just tank till CFC fuck off to save CSAA's or until DT". It should also be mention that the words retards idiots and shear shock and disbelief that Test got them so deep into the rapezone had happened. So I hopped on NCdot comms and told them the plan and asked them to get back home and reship to Slowcats and that Fountain would either be lost or saved today. That we N3&PL along with our little Test buddies would literally "RIDE THIS BITCH INTO THE GROUND"

    ACT III The Nuclear Option:

    I was re-forming slowcats at the time the node went down and was going to come in with a joint PL/NCdot/N3 slowcat blob of 200 and just tank till DT if we had to. Hoping that in frustration CFC would escalate or piss off while we rammed bombers into system all night to punish support fleet. I wasn't looking forward to it but I was unable to stand idly by and watch Test die a horrible war ending death. Laz mayhaps be correct that fight had the possibility of ending the Fountain war. What amazes me is we were able to cleanly extract PL slowcats on the first go round with 0 losses. However after talking about extracting for over a hour Test well they Test'd :nomad: :alllove:. Gotta love the lil guys but they are literally their own worst enemy sometimes. During the evening we logged in supers had a titan chain in place and when I was planning on re-committing 200 slows we all agreed that we had to not hesitate to escalate completely the second CFC upped the bet.

    The Afterword:

    Z9PP had the potential to be one of the bloodiest fights ever in Eve. I am partially saddened that it ended the way it did and partially glad ( I had already been sitting for 7hours straight and the thought of going till DT was not a pleasing thought). However as fate may be everyone perhaps had the chance to take in some BBQ Beer and Fireworks instead of tryharding in a backwater system in Eve. I sense the CFC is angry but surely fate stepped in to provide a better solution for the use of today for all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    Basing in-game actions on whether or not CCP will fatfinger a command is retarded, and the only reason you're able to say "well why didn't you drop caps" is due to 20/20 hindsight in the aftermath of that fatfinger incident. If they hadn't fatfingered that command, it is very likely that their entire carrier fleet (including the reinforcement fleet) would've been decimated one by one, just like it was up until that point.
    No it isn't 20/20. I guarantee any alliance or coalition leader with 2:1-3:1 subcap odds would drop 40 Dread in to help finish off 80-90 Carriers with a comparable Super Cap fleet on stand by. You guys missed your chance, killed a pile of BS in place of carriers instead. Stop spamming CCP forums about how they fucked up, because the DPS you had on field allowed for literally a myriad of possible out comes. It took you like 4 hours to whittle 30 something carriers out of continuous reinforcement. When you could have dropped dreads around the 2 hour mark, wiped out everything and gone home. The CFC butthurt directed at CCP should be directed at your Sky Marshalls, or w/e you call your security generals. This fight should have been done 2 hours in, not 4 hours in and at 2.2K people. If you guys ended it when you should have the node dropping would not have happened.

    The only reason this discussion is even relevant is because of the CFC tears on CCP forums. If you wanted to kill the carriers you had a huge 2 hour window where you dominated the field, your Cap/Super team are risk averse, and it shows they lack any knowledge of capital warfare, If N3/PL countered with supers for your standy dreads, they would literally be retarded. 90% of Cap/Super Cap combat is controlling the subcap fight, which you guys had pretty well in control.

    Either take the nice win gracefully or dock up about it....the tears on official forums are just pathetic for the EVE community in general.
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    Why would you use caps when your up against 2 of the biggest and most experienced super cap users in the game?
    Up untill now Test and co have used the slowcat drop as a simple I win button against sub cap. With the slowcats performing so badly this time even the goons are not dumb enough to play into PL and N3 hands who must of been eagerly awaiting with a counter drop.
    In the end both PL and NC. we're forced to engage in subcaps where their advantage is negated and their performance ordinary to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    No it isn't 20/20.
    Yes, it is. You would not have been making these posts if CCP hadn't fatfingered that command.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    Stop spamming CCP forums about how they fucked up
    Please point out any post I've made on the CCP forums about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    ~~~Lots of text~~~
    Thanks for all the insight, great BR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    That we N3&PL along with our little Test buddies would literally "RIDE THIS BITCH INTO THE GROUND"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    Yes, it is. You would not have been making these posts if CCP hadn't fatfingered that command.
    No you had the field long before CCP hit the off switch. It was on live stream dude. This isn't a...oh you could have thing, its a should have thing. There is no reason why dreads should not have been dropped. N3/PL would have been stupid to commit supers without sub cap support. Honestly are you just an F1 junkie? The choices made turned a couple hour fight into a multi hour slug fest which is cool, but bitching that it was because CCP is fucking hilarious. The field would have been cleared and thos noctis you brought scoring some sweet sweet salvage.

    (also I use you to represent your shitty alliance, not you personally.)

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    that shit was tight btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    No you had the field long before CCP hit the off switch. It was on live stream dude. This isn't a...oh you could have thing, its a should have thing. There is no reason why dreads should not have been dropped. N3/PL would have been stupid to commit supers without sub cap support. Honestly are you just an F1 junkie? The choices made turned a couple hour fight into a multi hour slug fest which is cool, but bitching that it was because CCP is fucking hilarious. The field would have been cleared and thos noctis you brought scoring some sweet sweet salvage.

    (also I use you to represent your shitty alliance, not you personally.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space cadet View Post
    Why would you use caps when your up against 2 of the biggest and most experienced super cap users in the game?
    Up untill now Test and co have used the slowcat drop as a simple I win button against sub cap. With the slowcats performing so badly this time even the goons are not dumb enough to play into PL and N3 hands who must of been eagerly awaiting with a counter drop.
    In the end both PL and NC. we're forced to engage in subcaps where their advantage is negated and their performance ordinary to say the least.
    Precisely this: we were chewing through Test carriers handily with a steadily growing number of megas. We had no need to let Test make their money back by dropping dreads, and Manny points very clearly to why they were very keen for us to do that.

    Tidi is also a mixed blessing for both sides. For anyone who likes the idea of a 400v400 fight you have to face the fact that there will be no big fight that basically anyone and everyone in eve cannot get into if they want. We wouldn't have had time to escalate subcaps past 700, 800, 1200, 1400 without a forty minute fight lasting six hours in tidi. While hostiles wouldn't have had time to make numerous attempts to rescue Test from the stupidity that Manny so eloquently describes (I could almost hear him saying "they did what?" when they jumped in their second wave of what looked like suicide capitals until ccp intervened). The "what-ifs" from the pinkys of this forum are retarded.

    Yes it is frustrating to have missed out on the chance to bankrupt Test as Manny describes (though they'd have probably got more loans, but it takes time to replace 120 capitals plus more dreads), but I genuinely feel far more sorry for the dude who fucked up that node change: he is the victim of the retarded company who don't insist that a text entry box for a critical system checks whether the target system "Q9PP" actually exists before reinforcing it.

    He'll have had a shitty, worried night and will doubtless be getting a carpeting amidst recriminations today and all because he made a human error with a system that should never ever ever allow you to try to swap all server resources for a node to the system "poodlefucker" without checking if it exists, first. A decade in and CCP still wouldn't know quality control if it fucked them in the eye-socket with an ISO 9000 manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    Son everything that you were is me, everything that you are is BL.
    After all didn't you tell me that it was my fault I didn't like BL. because I didn't try hard enough to fit in? (conform motherfucker)

    Its ok though, I am proud to see you have become a better poster than when you filled our alliance forums with garbage. Almost as proud as a father when his son gets laid.

    (please don't tell on me again though Roddy)
    what the fuck am I reading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhejay Centrix View Post
    Whatever the outcome would have been, CFC still suck and N3 has probably gained a huge amount of respect for sending in battleship fleet after battleship fleet in what was frankly a futile attempt to save the Test capitals against 1300 CFC dudes. CFC would never ever do that to save any of there allies, they would be like "fuck them we don't have enough dudes and its your own fault"

    To be fair I'm glad Test got some luck with the node crashing, its happened to CFC and especially the old RSF many times in the past so quit whining CFC shit happens yeah?
    To be frank, they were throwing good money after bad. They should have left the original 42 carriers to die, and called it a day. Instead their losses were much more severe, even without finishing everything off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky View Post
    No you had the field long before CCP hit the off switch. It was on live stream dude. This isn't a...oh you could have thing, its a should have thing. There is no reason why dreads should not have been dropped. N3/PL would have been stupid to commit supers without sub cap support.
    So when Manny says that's exactly the lengths they were preparing to go to, he's wrong?
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    Stopped in at the 4 hour mark, laughed as TEST brought in MORE caps, slept through the rest, did not miss a damn thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endie View Post
    Yes it is frustrating to have missed out on the chance to bankrupt Test
    I thought the narrative you guys were pushing is that Test is already bankrupt. I suppose that is a testament to the power of Goonswarm, you guys can double bankrupt your enemies.

    Take that bankruptcy! And another! Ha!

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    and Manny points very clearly
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    that Manny so eloquently describes
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    as Manny describes
    Grath and PL must have really put the fear of God into you guys.
    I'm afraid that Toshi's current path will see him quit ΕVE, find a nice wоman, fall in lovе, get mаrried‚ and then get divоrced after she breaks bad on him one daу fоr no rеаson, stomps on his heart, dumps him, and takes all his money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Stopped in at the 4 hour mark, laughed as TEST brought in MORE caps, slept through the rest, did not miss a damn thing
    Which apparently was the smart thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshi View Post




    Grath and PL must have really put the fear of God into you guys.
    CFC isn't afraid of PL. Were a small alliance that can be the tip of the spear but we cannot by ourselves change the outcome of a war of this scope. People often think that just because PL shows up somewhere that its automatically GG. That's not the case friend were a collection of bitter vets that play Eve in between playing BC2 Chiv and 50 other games. We have spikes of activity when its worth the time but were pretty casual for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    PL reshipped to bombers with the plan to doom portal on test slows to kill bubbles and tackle.
    EXPLOITERS!#%$!#%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    EXPLOITERS!#%$!#%
    You take that back or I'm calling my Big City Lawyer!

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    The amount of people who think CCP could legally or morally justify a guy losing his job for mistyping a single letter at 11:30pm local time is staggering. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you shitlords, actually kill yourself IRL, do the gene pool a favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    You take that back or I'm calling my Big City Lawyer!
    Please give us 48 hours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkon View Post
    The amount of people who think CCP could legally or morally justify a guy losing his job for mistyping a single letter at 11:30pm local time is staggering. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you shitlords, actually kill yourself IRL, do the gene pool a favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    You take that back or I'm calling my Big City Lawyer!
    Can I have 48 hours to consider it?

    edit: Beaten by tgr. Fuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkon View Post
    The amount of people who think CCP could legally or morally justify a guy losing his job for mistyping a single letter at 11:30pm local time is staggering. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you shitlords, actually kill yourself IRL, do the gene pool a favour.
    As a network engineer, I have a lot of sympathy for the guy who did this. I've made mistakes that have caused outages, myself. And it is quite a literal gut-wrenching feeling. You don't sleep, your stress level is through the roof, and you continually relive the experience, often for weeks or months.

    That being said, when it's something that's this customer facing, this vital to your core product, you have to expect this guy will be written up at a minimum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    During the evening we logged in supers had a titan chain in place and when I was planning on re-committing 200 slows we all agreed that we had to not hesitate to escalate completely the second CFC upped the bet.
    Hopefully this will be enough for pinky to realize he's a fucking clownshoe.
    Last edited by Schwa; 2013-07-05 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkon View Post
    The amount of people who think CCP could legally or morally justify a guy losing his job for mistyping a single letter at 11:30pm local time is staggering. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you shitlords, actually kill yourself IRL, do the gene pool a favour.
    Agreed, a couple of years I was part of the a team that made the nation news when one of our networks crashed due to a pretty minor configuration change. This stuff happens and the important thing is they change their tools and processes to make it less likely to happen in the future.
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    If N3/PL were indeed fixing to jump in another 200 slows then god knows what would've happened. The amount of buttmad over the whole thing is telling though, telling of all your unchill tryhard pubbie pets as well as their actual outlook on the war. Stay :fearless: TEST

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    Pretty sure that most playing the game has made mistakes in their RL jobs that cost their company money directly/indirectly.
    Ive done it, hell even the most expirienced Division managers have done it. They got overwhelming expirience and knowledge, and still can make a oversight.

    At the end of the day, a good boss should approach the team "so, what happened here and how can we prevent it from happening again. Chin up guys, dont drown yourself in stress. Focus on fixing the problem" etc etc.
    If an employee is a repeat offender when it comes to mistakes, he might be axed.
    But a guy with good trackrecord making one mistake; hell no, you would run out of employees in a hurry that way. It will hurt the company more in the long run.
    Last edited by Niding; 2013-07-05 at 10:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshi View Post
    I thought the narrative you guys were pushing is that Test is already bankrupt. I suppose that is a testament to the power of Goonswarm, you guys can double bankrupt your enemies.

    Take that bankruptcy! And another! Ha!





    Grath and PL must have really put the fear of God into you guys.
    You should pay more real life money to post so you can become another shitposting drone for test

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    He has enough money to throw at kugu to post; i guess that means TEST isn't destitute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    CFC isn't afraid of PL. Were a small alliance that can be the tip of the spear but we cannot by ourselves change the outcome of a war of this scope. People often think that just because PL shows up somewhere that its automatically GG. That's not the case friend were a collection of bitter vets that play Eve in between playing BC2 Chiv and 50 other games. We have spikes of activity when its worth the time but were pretty casual for the most part.
    The reason people do not fight you in a game of supers online is simple and its not fear.
    Your a small alliance that plays the meta game better than anyone else. You recruit just about any hostile super cap FC that could possibly pose a threat,while always remaining blue to the right side at the right time.
    You can be sure when PL chooses a side in a war witch is very rare,they do so in the knowledge of being relatively sure which one is the best one to be on supercap wise.

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    So in the middle of the fight, the powergrid for my city essentially shit itself. I actually didn't mind that much.

    Last edited by Zverofaust; 2013-07-05 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    CFC isn't afraid of PL. Were a small alliance that can be the tip of the spear but we cannot by ourselves change the outcome of a war of this scope. People often think that just because PL shows up somewhere that its automatically GG. That's not the case friend were a collection of bitter vets that play Eve in between playing BC2 Chiv and 50 other games. We have spikes of activity when its worth the time but were pretty casual for the most part.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU HAVE BECOME SHADOO

    nothing to see here u guys just a small alliance w/ no effect on the big picture
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    just kidding we're gonna need a blood sacrifice to keep us from getting in

    like i'm thinking 2 titans would be fair
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    That being said, when it's something that's this customer facing, this vital to your core product, you have to expect this guy will be written up at a minimum.
    You can say that, HOWEVER the fact is still that there's apparently NO quality control on the input data being sent in. At the worst case, it should have had a "does this exist holy shit" check to it, at best it should be some sort of dropdown list or something which doesn't require someone typing in a name that's well-known to the system.
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    CFC about to lose a station egg in J5A while 200 man mega fleet hides in a pos!

    Didn't want that outpost anyway!

    http://clip2net.com/s/5lacGh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niding View Post
    Pretty sure that most playing the game has made mistakes in their RL jobs that cost their company money directly/indirectly.
    Ive done it, hell even the most expirienced Division managers have done it. They got overwhelming expirience and knowledge, and still can make a oversight.

    At the end of the day, a good boss should approach the team "so, what happened here and how can we prevent it from happening again. Chin up guys, dont drown yourself in stress. Focus on fixing the problem" etc etc.
    If an employee is a repeat offender when it comes to mistakes, he might be axed.
    But a guy with good trackrecord making one mistake; hell no, you would run out of employees in a hurry that way. It will hurt the company more in the long run.
    Pretty much this. This is just a nice example of a systemic problem just waiting to bite someone in the ass. It probably has happened tons of times, the difference this time is just that this time it was a very, very public outing of this systemic problem.
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    Why Minmatar?

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    If you are going to gift us a station, make it a better one please.

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