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    Quote Originally Posted by Mfume View Post
    there are a lot of alliances w/o red pen ops, stop kidding yourself that it's unique. and alarm-clocking in general is pretty dead given dominion sov. also: wasnt there some test drama about a director going around turning off ihubs because people were ratting during strat ops?
    I was the one that wanted to shut off ihubs because I hate having sov and hate j4gs and jews. It had nothing to do with getting people to go on ops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkbox Poll View Post
    I was the one that wanted to shut off ihubs because I hate having sov and hate j4gs and jews. It had nothing to do with getting people to go on ops.
    The beatings will continue until morale improves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkbox Poll View Post
    I was the one that wanted to shut off ihubs because I hate having sov and hate j4gs and jews. It had nothing to do with getting people to go on ops.
    What roles do you need to be able to simultaneously turn off all sov modules, just Director of the Executor corp/corp that owns them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    What roles do you need to be able to simultaneously turn off all sov modules, just Director of the Executor corp/corp that owns them?
    Config equipment, afaik. Could be wrong.

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    As much as people complain about sov, it's nice to have my own station system for ratting. I was late to the party though and had to settle for one with only 2 forsaken hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polian View Post
    The beatings will continue until morale improves
    I would beat everyone until we return to mother Syndicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    I see someone stopped taking their meds.
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    I would have clicked that link if I hadn't already found out where it went thanks to some dickbag corpmates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post


    When did they try to wipe you out? And please don't bring up shit that happened 3 years ago under the helm of the pink hat wearing shit bag.

    He didn't say that they had tried he said that they would have no qualms in doing so if they could.

    My question is if what The Mittani has done with Goons and the CFC is so damned easy how come no one else has done it? Why didn't Team (no)Tech get together and work out a unified strategy for countering the threat of the CFC?

    Back in my Marine days I used to semi-joke that I would make friends of anyone who could whoop my ass and if that failed I'd make friends with someone who could whoop theirs.

    That's basically what the CFC has done. You have a number of entities who couldn't stand up to other alliances such as Raiden. on their own but are able to band together with a buddy who can. This allows smaller alliances to fight above their weight class and defend space they couldn't otherwise hold.

    The real question is considering just how successful the CFC has been. Why hasn't anyone else managed to emulate it?

    So the CFC has managed to kill off any enemies who could threaten them, who's fault is that?

    Goons are the most hated entity in EVE, so why hasn't anyone figured out how rally enough swinging dicks under one banner to thwart them?

    If what the CFC does is so easy why hasn't anyone figured out how to forge the legions of butt hurt pubies together into a force that could threaten it?

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    There'll be renewed hatred for us soon enough. Who knows, it might even start a new foreverwar.
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    Maybe because not everyone who is in an Alliance dreams of being part of a mega Blob that rules EVE? Being in a smaller entity with toons of small targets around you is actually pretty fun, you should try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skex View Post
    My question is if what The Mittani has done with Goons and the CFC is so damned easy how come no one else has done it? Why didn't Team (no)Tech get together and work out a unified strategy for countering the threat of the CFC?
    I'm pretty sure Kugu historians will be able to belt out a string of large coalitions who have done this before, it's nothing new. The eve populace is filled with different alliances with different styles, a few of which will always fall into the larger 'strength in numbers' category (which is fine). People tend to choose alliance types based on cultural fit, and trying to create a large coalition out of smaller, more independant and culturally different entities is generally not sustainable for the very reasons their pilots are not in those larger coalitions in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Bliss View Post
    I'm pretty sure Kugu historians will be able to belt out a string of large coalitions who have done this before, it's nothing new. The eve populace is filled with different alliances with different styles, a few of which will always fall into the larger 'strength in numbers' category (which is fine). People tend to choose alliance types based on cultural fit, and trying to create a large coalition out of smaller, more independant and culturally different entities is generally not sustainable for the very reasons their pilots are not in those larger coalitions in the first place.
    Not really, and of the "coalitions" we could list they were so shortlived, its hardly notable, none of them have lasted the years like NC did or CFC is approaching, unless you want to count the GBC.
    [Arrador] possesses a considerable understanding of ship configurations, strengths and weakness. He gives clear and purposeful instructions, is good at taking advantage of the fleet-composition he's dealt, and never loses sight of the main goal: fun. This, paired with an excellent tolerance for strong drink gives him an almost Churchillian capability to win, despite being completely pissed on booze most of the fleet operation.

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    NC is so amazing sov is broken i hope they change it
    CFC is so amazing sov is broken i hope they change it

    quick dont they say 3rd times a charm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrador View Post
    Not really, and of the "coalitions" we could list they were so shortlived, its hardly notable, none of them have lasted the years like NC did or CFC is approaching, unless you want to count the GBC.
    Yes really. Why wouldn't you count the GBC? Or anyone else for that matter (however fleeting their existence in comparison [even the DRF]). The point was it's nothing new and has been done before. It wasn't a competition on who has created the biggest and longest-living herd of cum drinking sluts. :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartCo View Post
    There's not a Mostly Harmless zombie alliance taking up space in the CFC.
    Except Goonswarm of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrador View Post
    Not really, and of the "coalitions" we could list they were so shortlived, its hardly notable, none of them have lasted the years like NC did or CFC is approaching, unless you want to count the GBC.

    The CFC is at best a year and a half old I would not exactly say you are the longest lasting coalition in the history of the game. In maybe 3 or 4 more years you can blow that horn, if your still around but I would say the DRF -A- Block and the original NC was probably 3 of the longest lasting orginizations in Eve History. All those groups have/had lasted for around 4 or 5 years. CFC may or may not even be around at that point. I would just warn against your CFC is forever speech till you have made it further then those other coalitions that fell apart....and in the example of -A- are still actually running.

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    how do I become a leadership specialist I want to take my space corporation to great new heights

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    Quote Originally Posted by penifSMASH View Post
    how do I become a leadership specialist I want to take my space corporation to great new heights
    whites only

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    Quote Originally Posted by penifSMASH View Post
    how do I become a leadership specialist I want to take my space corporation to great new heights
    Well get them out of FA asap...Gents might be a good fit for you culturally, that or LAWN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skex View Post
    My question is if what The Mittani has done with Goons and the CFC is so damned easy how come no one else has done it? Why didn't Team (no)Tech get together and work out a unified strategy for countering the threat of the CFC. If what the CFC does is so easy why hasn't anyone figured out how to forge the legions of butt hurt pubies together into a force that could threaten it?
    No one else has done it? How about BOB/IT, Atlas/-A-, DRF, The NC, they've all done the blob, all raped anyone who opposed em and all died to a similar, but better prepared blob, when they were already tired of fighting. No one has brought 8400 faggots in one alliance yet, cuz most people don't enjoy 10% TiDi. Newfags are not used to losing ships and cry when their alliance won't pay for their lost maelstrom, they want to fly rifter in pvp and own, but spend 2-3-4 bils on ratting ships. They find the easy way in blobing, instead of actually improving their gameplay.
    So the CFC has managed to kill off any enemies who could threaten them, who's fault is that?
    Sorry, what enemies exactly did the CFC killed yet? Could you please remind us? CFC emerged when there was simply no large coalition left that could threaten them. All other carebear blobs were already dead. Where was the CFC when NC was getting raped by the forces of elite russian pvp? Waiting for everyone else to die off is not exactly winning...
    Goons are the most hated entity in EVE, so why hasn't anyone figured out how rally enough swinging dicks under one banner to thwart them?
    Because no everyone is having fun with 3000 faggots in one system. Blobs are not fun. This is not a matter of life and death, it's a video game and people are trying to have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Caffeine View Post
    The best part was "shameful and unforgivable association with suspected RMT criminals". I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's pretty funny comming from an alliance with Vuk in it.
    You mean because Vuk Lau RMTed for years and it's funny because they took on his dead weight. Why didn't you want to say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUN73R View Post
    Where was the CFC when NC was getting raped by the forces of elite russian pvp? Waiting for everyone else to die off is not exactly winning...
    What, pray tell, would another 400 people possibly have been able to do in a system with well over 1000 fat aspie nerds already in it, before tidi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUN73R View Post
    Waiting for everyone else to die off is not exactly winning...
    are you saying -A- is shit or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUN73R View Post
    Sorry, what enemies exactly did the CFC killed yet? Could you please remind us? CFC emerged when there was simply no large coalition left that could threaten them. All other carebear blobs were already dead. Where was the CFC when NC was getting raped by the forces of elite russian pvp? Waiting for everyone else to die off is not exactly winning...
    Would you have called WN, NCdot and Raiden plus evoke, init, hellas,... weak 6 months ago?

    True we din't fight the one big fight against all of them but that is thanks to mittens' ~leadership skills~. The only alliance that could have pulled all of those alliances together was PL but they don't want all their tech reinforced untill it gets nerfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkbox Poll View Post
    I was the one that wanted to shut off ihubs because I hate having sov and hate j4gs and jews. It had nothing to do with getting people to go on ops.
    im just going throwing out that's a pretty elite pvp thing to do. im pretty sure ncdot did that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mfume View Post
    im just going throwing out that's a pretty elite pvp thing to do. im pretty sure ncdot did that.
    So hating sov, stupid j4gs and worthless jews is now the new standard of 'elite?'

    To be fair, peeps pretty much went apeshit when it happened since it is in too many ways antithetical to our culture. I dislike sov, stupid j4gs and jews as much as leetcheese but it was the wrong approach and does imitate what various 'elite pvp' alliances have done, even though the action in and of itself is not 'elitist'.

    edit: does the puncutation go before or after the quotation mark at the end of the word?
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    Why would you stick around in an alliance dedicated to holding sov and sucking up j4gs if you hate them so much?

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    Purging of Regions, yes it's a moral booster to see the influence map and dotlan, but I and many others don't give a shit about sov.
    I do get miffed having to pack my stuff, but hey that's eve.

    What I do enjoy is the good old fashioned roam or a grief a few low/zero sec gates. Not to everyone's liking but then again tons of peeps love the 1k+ v 300 fights.
    Each to their own.

    CFC have a long way to go below they can be considered king of the hills, there will be another school yard bully with bigger mates ready to put the boot in sooner than later.

    Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elise Randolph View Post
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    We're done with taking new regions unless something unpredictable comes up, so all the "GONNA TAKE OVER ALL EVE HURRRR" shit is p. lawl no matter who it's coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUN73R View Post
    Because no everyone is having fun with 3000 faggots in one system. Blobs are not fun. This is not a matter of life and death, it's a video game and people are trying to have fun.
    Blobs are a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mittani View Post
    We're done with taking new regions unless something unpredictable comes up, so all the "GONNA TAKE OVER ALL EVE HURRRR" shit is p. lawl no matter who it's coming from.
    Are you happy enough with the amount of space Goons / CFC / allies control at the moment? This isn't a troll question - I am genuinely curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midi2304 View Post
    Are you happy enough with the amount of space Goons / CFC / allies control at the moment? This isn't a troll question - I am genuinely curious.
    Absolutely. Everyone has enough territory and income for their size; everyone can reimburse losses completely.

    One of the most common historical and ~eve online~ errors is to conquer too much. You need enemies near you, but not right on your border; too much peace makes you soft and weak. Up north we have NCdot/RDN across the Venal border and IRC in CE; near enough to have daily fights, but not so near that we are at strategic risk. Down south there's the whole Delve Ghetto right on the border of Fountain.

    The NC collapsed because they conquered everyone around them and had no threats to keep them from weakness. They got sloppy because they didn't need to be anything other than sloppy; it wasn't until the retarded DRF invasion that a real threat manifested against them, and Angry Russians over the border knocked the whole thing over. Goonswarm faced similar stagnation when Delve/Q/PB/Fountain was all blue. Goons have succeeded in EVE because, since 2006, everyone and their brother keeps trying to murder us. It's important to keep goons dying, daily, or we'd enter a Delve-style era of stagnation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mittani View Post
    We're done with taking new regions unless something unpredictable comes up, so all the "GONNA TAKE OVER ALL EVE HURRRR" shit is p. lawl no matter who it's coming from.
    Nobody sane is suggesting that, the thing im suggesting that seems to have Malcanis's panties all bunged up and Some Market Dude doing his usual sperge routine is that you have now killed the only credible threat left in the game to your people, the only enemy you have left is time. You have removed the thing that would keep your members actively engaged in your space. You have in effect recreated Delve.

    The rest of the game will likely now turtle up should you show and just move out to low sec or the nearest NPC 0.0. Where would you go, Delve? Nulli and company would make a great fight, IRC? Dead in 2 weeks, tops, AAA? They'll let you plow the whole south over and over and just constantly retreat to stain. NCdot? They might show up and harass a fleet or two but largely they'll do the same thing raiden did, evac assets and just sit back and watch, they have a huge nest egg to live off of for about 2 years.

    Even kicking member alliances like FCON and shit out wouldn't really help you, as they'd simply leave their space, unable to stand up to events that would come next, still leaving you sitting in a sea of your own coalition. You had a delicate balance where you had fun near home for your entire alliance, and rather than milk it or try and foster that border war you stomped it to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mittani View Post
    The NC collapsed because they conquered everyone around them and had no threats to keep them from weakness. They got sloppy because they didn't need to be anything other than sloppy; it wasn't until the retarded DRF invasion that a real threat manifested against them, and Angry Russians over the border knocked the whole thing over. Goonswarm faced similar stagnation when Delve/Q/PB/Fountain was all blue. Goons have succeeded in EVE because, since 2006, everyone and their brother keeps trying to murder us. It's important to keep goons dying, daily, or we'd enter a Delve-style era of stagnation.
    NC didnt conquer so much as blue everyone )))
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    (21:39:57) dabigredboat: nobody trusts them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    How dare you insinuate that I wear underwear?

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    If you look at the borders of the CFC and the borders of the NC you don't see a huge difference. Sure, the center of power is now Deklein, and they own Cloud Ring and Fountain instead of Tribute and Vale, but the core is still there.

    It will be interesting to see how long you can maintain at this level. I would love to see a civil war will break out, but all your coalition partners have been spayed or neutered, so its unlikely.
    If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
    Fear the KKM

  47. "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mittani View Post
    Goons have succeeded in EVE because, since 2006, everyone and their brother keeps trying to murder us. It's important to keep goons dying, daily, or we'd enter a Delve-style era of stagnation.
    So if you want to kill goons, don't shoot/fight them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Even kicking member alliances like FCON and shit out wouldn't really help you, as they'd simply leave their space, unable to stand up to events that would come next, still leaving you sitting in a sea of your own coalition. You had a delicate balance where you had fun near home for your entire alliance, and rather than milk it or try and foster that border war you stomped it to death.
    Rein that pony back there a bit partner. We were quite happy trying (and failing) to rescue Mister Vee's Cruor out of NOL, when RDN broke the bropact and shot up our tech in Venal. Then intel picked up rumblings about -WN- planning an invasion of Dek. Yeah, WN turned out to be a complete paper tiger, but at the time we appeared to have found the yellow cake. There wasn't any invasion plan to hit Branch until those (as well as a few other) pieces of intel started coming in. Branch wasn't a conjured up casus belli, at the time all the intel pointed to -WN-, RDN, and NCDOT acting like a bunch of teenagers urging each other on to do something naughty.

    We swung first at -WN- and then went after RDN who really started the entire mess. If there's anything you can blame us for, it's holding grudges like a... well... goon.

  49. God is dead. They found his carcass in 2019.. Opti's Avatar
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    yep yep yep goons are fucked they won eve and the game over screen just came up, better just fucking die now oks

    everything moving ahead as planned bros

    ps. i also agree with elise randolph fuck propogandas

  50. God is dead. They found his carcass in 2019.. Checkbox Poll's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viribus View Post
    Why would you stick around in an alliance dedicated to holding sov and sucking up j4gs if you hate them so much?
    Because there are more people in the alliance that aren't j4gs and jews than those that are. And newbies. I like newbies.

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