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  1. God is dead. They found his carcass in 2019.. Opti's Avatar
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    http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...l&kll_id=86466

    found the FC

    no cause for alarm, wasnt a real PL fleet anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    tl;dr nulli>pl
    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...l&kll_id=86466

    found the FC

    no cause for alarm, wasnt a real PL fleet anyway
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    So did the fleet collapse because Jogyn got owned, or did that happen later? Looks like Elise could've taken the helm if that were the case.

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    Killing a mothership is not news any more, but killing 8 PL Tengus causes premature ejaculation

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    Wait Jogyn lost a fleet. That's a first.

    (according to himself at least)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinx View Post
    Killing a mothership is not news any more, but killing 8 PL Tengus causes premature ejaculation
    Probably has something to do with one of those things happening more than the other. But that's the burden of success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    So did the fleet collapse because Jogyn got owned, or did that happen later? Looks like Elise could've taken the helm if that were the case.
    Jogyn died in the last minute. Losing an FC tends not to make PL fleets collapse, we are all pretty amazing at running the fuck away, and are cowards at heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinx View Post
    Killing a mothership is not news any more, but killing 8 PL Tengus causes premature ejaculation
    The volume of smugposting observed in any given Kugu thread can be measured with the Keller Formula:

    Smugposts by Entity X = [(Smugness of (Entity Y) on (current page - 2)) x (ISK lost by (Entity Y) on current page)] / ISK lost by (Entity X) on current page

    It's all in the iskwar baby

  9. God is dead. They found his carcass in 2019.. Perseus Kallistratos's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grogoth View Post
    we are all pretty amazing at running the fuck away,
    except for that one wormhole eggress

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanMan View Post
    except for that one wormhole eggress
    *Rocks back and forward* Don't mention that op, the memories
    R.I.P Vile Rat

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    woa dem huginns. ballsy drop

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    Progod got high on pubbie swagger and lost some ships to epic slowcat fleet. Of course we all blame zealot for taunting PL to bring them in local

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanMan View Post
    except for that one wormhole eggress
    We got away and there were no killmails

    Op success
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    ah shit wrong thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinx View Post
    Killing a mothership is not news any more, but killing 8 PL Tengus causes premature ejaculation
    The thread had been quiet as not much had been going on, and since everything has kind of settled down figure I'd make a quick post to atleast show that people were still undocking and pewing occasionally in Delve.

    Edit: Also, PL dropped 60 slowcat carriers on our 150 man Alpha fleet right as we were finishing the last Ihub off just now. We got the Ihub into RF, then tried to fight the carriers to see how we could do and then we were going to play it from ear there.

    A few BS died and I wasn't sure if we could tank or not, but I was skeptical towards my pilots bitching about the volley, and told them to stop sucking. Then I saw Elise yellow box me with his proteus. "Fine" I thought to myself, all 18 of our scimitars already have me prelocked, I then announced on comms to ours scimmys to watch me as I was about to be primaried. Elise's box went from yellow to red, my client jolted for a second or two, and then I saw the Insurance mail.

    http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...l&kll_id=86543

    Quite a few scimmys mentioned that they got a rep cycle off but it didn't keep the second volley from quickly finishing me off. Whelp.

    At that point we figured time to leave.

    Teh slowcats are nice, here's br:
    http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...d&kll_id=86543

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    So, been shitbusy with 10-14hours work days so not in the loop and this tread kinda died, so:


    1. RA has moved staging to where? Q?
    2. Neut/blue to south?
    3. Done or just tactical retreat?
    4. Testies coming to play?
    5. PL stuck in npc space?
    6. Battle of fountain drinks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    The thread had been quiet as not much had been going on, and since everything has kind of settled down figure I'd make a quick post to atleast show that people were still undocking and pewing occasionally in Delve.
    Never apologize for posting content, even if it's small. If every BR style post had to center around massive battles with kills numbering in the tens of billions, titans exploding, etc. then this place would be pretty boring most days of the week.

    You're gonna need to move up to some ridiculous tank T3 command ships. What was your speed / prop mod status when they nailed you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    Nulli just formed 120 to go kill an RA ihub. Maelstrom fleet with about 60 maelstroms, 15 scimmys, and assorted recons and tackle.

    As we were finishing off the IHUB, PL mass logged on in KFIE, and quickly got a large fleet on titan, about 90 with 60 tengus, 17~ scimmys (last number I heard scout say), and lachs/huigins and dictors. Once we got our supers safe after IHUB died, we were down for a fight, and with each side having a pretty even number of DPS ships and logistics it was a nice match up.
    Propagandas post or do you have really bad scouts?

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    https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_battle.php?start_time=2012-04-19 17:03:00&end_time=2012-04-19 17:10:00&system=D-W7F


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    [22:38] <@Jogyn> haha how come im getting the blame for this
    [22:39] <@Jogyn> i was just chillin counting wrecks, still havent lost a fleet
    [22:39] <BlueMajere> Jogyn:
    [22:39] <BlueMajere> why u give your 5 tech moons to shigsy?
    [09:31:23] tribute wont fall
    (21:39:55) dabigredboat: pl wont get hired
    (21:39:57) dabigredboat: nobody trusts them
    (21:40:19) dabigredboat: I think pl is in delve to build supers

    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    Kind of a long day in Delve. Since RA decided not to show up because the concept of timing for DT confuses and amazes them, we decided to see if we could make waves. Nulli had ~130 in fleet with 12 Huggins, so we formed 2STRONG Tengus with the plan of trading Tengus for Huginns and running amok. Unfortunately we had 35 Tengus, which is basically the bare minimum, and mistakes were made. Couldn't break shit, lost 2 Tengus but was holding on with the reps just barely after links went active, so decided to peace out. Peace out maneuver failed and 5 Tengus got stuck and died.

    A MORNING OF :SMITH:

    Nulli formed again with 180 in fleet this time, so conventional fleet was out of the question for us. We formed Herocats, since Nulli had carelessly dropped some Supers, and Bombers with the intentions of making life difficult for the Nulli. And so we did. What should have been an easy 20 minute op took two hours. We watched in glee as squads would jump in, warp to perches, orbit 30 - for a 180 man fleet. Although we weren't setup in the next system, we bridged there anyway and bluffed our way to hilarity.

    By now we had enough numbers to actually fight, so we switched into Slow Cats (since Nulli were kind enough to ask for them), and went in to seek glory. We tried some dangerzone bait maneuvers to keep the Nullis interested; they involved warping, so I figured drone DPS would be slow to come. Maels were tanking fairly well, so I went for Progod's Vulture to space-juke the scimies. The space-juke worked all too well and Progod died with the quickness and the fleet left. Was sad times.
    True, I have raped history, but it has produced some beautiful offspring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    Propagandas post or do you have really bad scouts?
    Let's just say you're not the only one who knows a thing or two about the 'subtle' art of kugu propaganda.

    "60 Tengu's in fleet", "60 Man fleet Tengu fleet", it's all the same right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    Propagandas post or do you have really bad scouts?

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    https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_battle.php?start_time=2012-04-19 17:03:00&end_time=2012-04-19 17:10:00&system=D-W7F


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    [22:38] <@Jogyn> haha how come im getting the blame for this
    [22:39] <@Jogyn> i was just chillin counting wrecks, still havent lost a fleet
    [22:39] <BlueMajere> Jogyn:
    [22:39] <BlueMajere> why u give your 5 tech moons to shigsy?
    Since your tengu's didn't kill shit except a few dictors that they didn't all get on, it just appears like you didn't have 80-90 in fleet. Scout said 60, it was probably more like 50~~. I know I had at least two overview scrolls full and I have my overview setup to show 20 at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    Since your tengu's didn't kill shit except a few dictors that they didn't all get on, it just appears like you didn't have 80-90 in fleet. Scout said 60, it was probably more like 50~~. I know I had at least two overview scrolls full and I have my overview setup to show 20 at a time.

    Okay you are just a retard or a dbrb liar then, np np ))))

    (we had 37)
    [09:31:23] tribute wont fall
    (21:39:55) dabigredboat: pl wont get hired
    (21:39:57) dabigredboat: nobody trusts them
    (21:40:19) dabigredboat: I think pl is in delve to build supers

    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    I now have more tech than all the southern alliances combined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    Okay you are just a retard or a dbrb liar then, np np ))))

    (we had 37)
    Must be retarded then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    A few BS died and I wasn't sure if we could tank or not, but I was skeptical towards my pilots bitching about the volley, and told them to stop sucking. Then I saw Elise yellow box me with his proteus. "Fine" I thought to myself, all 18 of our scimitars already have me prelocked, I then announced on comms to ours scimmys to watch me as I was about to be primaried. Elise's box went from yellow to red, my client jolted for a second or two, and then I saw the Insurance mail.
    Maybe you should tank you vulture properly next time.
    Your posting has been Adjusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorren Canada View Post
    Maybe you should tank you vulture properly next time.
    Admittedly I did forget to take the painter off from earlier that morning, but honestly most I could have done was add 60k more ehp, would have been close for sure, but I had more ehp than our maelstroms did, so even if I did tank, they would have just switched backed to maelstroms and pop pop popped, I think the first bs that Elise shot that ended up tanking, were just because their drones weren't all fully setup yet.

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    The only reason PL is losing ~some tengus~ is because we are missing our TEST Alliance backbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves1091 View Post
    The only reason PL is losing ~some tengus~ is because we are missing our TEST Alliance backbone.
    We are here.. we sacrificed bombers....

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    Why test? Nulli + BL supcaps + PL Supers could sure make things interesting in game. Evil Empire should be created.

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    We like to shit in people's cheerios and ruin their little three ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorax View Post
    We are here.. we sacrificed bombers....

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    And by backbone I meant Notchicken.

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    Well why not, Waffle Battle Report for a few days back....

    Battle of HM-XR2

    The Glorious waffle bombing teams set up, gathering deep in the recesses of the region known as delve, they silently waited for their overlords to bid them entrance to the target. At first we were not told of what we would be doing.... only that good fites and killmails might be received for the various medical services we were about to administer to the unwitting residents of delve. Stealthily the mighty waffle conveyance uncloaked... and seagulls to small unguarded fish, dozens of waffle bombers uncloaked and were flung light years across the region into the unknown.

    In a raspy but soothing voice, the overlord of the young waffles began to direct them... but before they could turn the fires of their loins upon the enemy, a fearsome S2N bomb group uncloaked, and removed their initial target from the field.... all the waffles could do was watch in despair as thirty tornado's vanished from the field. But with the battle now fully engaged between the Red tide and the Praetorian fleet of Nulli Secunda... the waffles set about trying to catch a bomb advantage on what they believed to be a weaker Nulli Battleship fleet.... things went smoothly on the runs, but the excellent Velites of Nulli began to take their tole on the waffle numbers... picking off 2-3 every run.... eventually a Nulli Battleship was caught alone, and mercilessly cut to pieces by the Piranha like bombers..... meanwhile back on the field, their PL overlord had finally found a perfect grouping.... and as soon as the waffles had returned, he sent them one last time into the breach.... but as they landed... disaster struck, for though their bombs flew true, and over a half dozen Battleships vanished in a blaze of emp burst.... many waffle bombers vanished as well... or were snatched by the waiting Velites. A sad fate indeed

    ______________________________________

    Bonus: Slowcats are better then bombers....

    Waffles Bridge into JP4.... Nulli tries some sort of "lets use a recon as bait to kill bombers" lose it to a couple of waffle heroes with torpedos from 50km....

    Then one loan idiot decides it would be a great idea to sit on a gate uncloaked for 15 minutes..... nearly dies... but be some idiotic miracle survives.... Waffles proceed to make the worst bombing runs in the history of EVE... though in fairness, it was the first time the guy was FCing.... we manage to trade 6 bombers for 1 crow and 1 fed navy comet.... As I managed to once again kill myself with bombs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorax View Post
    We are here.. we sacrificed bombers....

    Attachment 2833
    Kind of looks like that dinosaur is about to blow the phage. Then the phage will have post blowie waffles.

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    Tengus don't fare well against alphafleet with like 15 huginns to support.

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    Tengus never been cost effective while fighting outnumbered. Thats why tengus are shit.

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    They are quite effective, even when fighting outnumbered - it's been shown multiple times. The Huginns neutralize the benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    They are quite effective
    Against RA fleet doctrine maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    Okay you are just a retard or a dbrb liar then, np np ))))

    (we had 37)
    Propagandas reacting badly to begin out-propaganda'd? And linking killboards no less?

    Seems the rep reset really has caused some people to lose their bearings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthShallRise View Post
    Why test? Nulli + BL supcaps + PL Supers could sure make things interesting in game. Evil Empire should be created.
    where did we come from

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mexxico View Post
    where did we come from
    Hell, Ronnie - HELL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max View Post
    Tengus don't fare well against alphafleet with like 15 huginns to support.
    Also Nulli had some good exercise fighting Tengu fleets of Stainwagon recently, so they probably know how to do it. Nerf Maels!

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    Maels with a healthy dose of Huginns are nearly a catch all fleet at the moment. There are a few prospects as a counter but who knows if that will pan out or die in a ball of flames.

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    bombers and dicking around on titans for too long are the quick death of mael fleets.
    [SIZE=1]People are like slinkies. Generally useless but entertaining when you push them down stairs.[/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tayler Derden View Post
    Tengus never been cost effective while fighting outnumbered. Thats why tengus are shit.
    Unles you don't care that much about efficiency, of course.

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    Tengus are great when someone else is running interference for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pielemieni View Post
    Also Nulli had some good exercise fighting Tengu fleets of Stainwagon recently, so they probably know how to do it. Nerf Maels!
    S2N also had reasonable success vs. Tengus while in Geminate, admittedly more to a combination of fortuitous hostile fuckups and ensuing good exploitation of presented opportunities than any sublime anti-Tengu fleet builds. They're not an unknown enemy. Anyway, even if Nulli did not have practical experience in fighting them, they'd be stupid to not theorize contingencies against Tengus considering the popularity of the doctrine. It helps that "lots of Huginns or Lokis depending on the fleet type" is an easy patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Unles you don't care that much about efficiency, of course.
    You could apply that argument to any fleet comp. Laser Hyperions, or Caldari Navy Ospreys for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan Acoma View Post
    You could apply that argument to any fleet comp. Laser Hyperions, or Caldari Navy Ospreys for example.
    No you can't because those aren't effective ships and they're "cheap". Tengus are effective but they're expensive. They're just not 10 times better than a Drake costing a tenth the price. Thus they're less efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    No you can't because those aren't effective ships and they're "cheap". Tengus are effective but they're expensive. They're just not 10 times better than a Drake costing a tenth the price. Thus they're less efficient.

    And thats working as planned for subcaps. Cost and effectiveness shouldn't scale linearly 1:1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pielemieni View Post
    Also Nulli had some good exercise fighting Tengu fleets of Stainwagon recently, so they probably know how to do it. Nerf Maels!
    Yeah, we (St0ven) had quite simillar experience when we were helping RL in PB. Got a bit too close to carrier-reped huggins and got few tengus alpha'ed.
    by 80 or so maels.
    http://killboard.xenobytes.se/?a=kil...&kll_id=209973
    http://hq.c0ven.pl/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=180652

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