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    Quote Originally Posted by John Caffeine View Post
    Neither DT nor Init ever hired PL, and Init are hardly dead.

    IT however did, to help destract the CFC during the Fountain invasion if I remember correctly.
    Yep. I had a wonderful scheme to drain IT's coffers and make PL a fuckton of ISK during that one. Alas, despite space diplomacy it was not to be.

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    when you are cocksucking nobodies who are 12th rate "mercs" and trying to pull off a PL and fail horribly yeah your pretty much dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    when you are cocksucking nobodies who are 12th rate "mercs" and trying to pull off a PL and fail horribly yeah your pretty much dead
    This guy's pretty mad about something- not really getting down with the smug theme really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatdum View Post
    Hey guys watch me post irrelevant content about renters dying. At some point I will put on my nerd glasses and realize I can't read without them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jm24 View Post
    Hey guys watch me post irrelevant content about renters dying. At some point I will put on my nerd glasses and realize I can't read without them.
    Oasa: The Secret Garden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky D View Post
    Oasa: The Secret Garden
    Oasa: You Shit Where We Eat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scroobius Pip View Post
    This guy's pretty mad about something- not really getting down with the smug theme really.
    I think he's still mad about that ice mining op

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    Would someone give an update of this war as its been kind of quite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    Would someone give an update of this war as its been kind of quite.
    Nothing much going on, Solar taking systems/stations in Insmother that it can alarm-clock reinforce or that RA fucks up timing on (RA, XIX and pets timing everything for PL/NC USTZ).

    PL then repping everything that gets timed properly and killing SBUs.

    Pretty dull really.

    XIX seems to be practicing PVP on Goon carebears with regular roams across Deklein.

    Check out this hero: http://killboard.solar-fleet.ru/inde...name=SqRam&p=1

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    Good thing the new sov system changed the timezone war...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUN73R View Post
    Good thing the new sov system changed the timezone war...

    Yeah you should thank Sel for it.

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    Well, if you are dedicated -- you can still work around it with alarm clocks. SOLAR have demonstrated this effectively by doing 4 alarmclocks in a week which will have captured them 5-7 systems when it's all and done and swinged the momentum significantly.

    So while the sov system sucks for TZ war -- it is still workable if you care enough. I do agree it doesn't change the fact it sucks though v0v.

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    Revert sov to the old system. so much better~

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    How do the powerbloc leaders feel about an occupancy-style sov system?

    I figure CFC wouldn't mind since they occupy most of their space, but RA would probably get fucked by a lack of renter income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    How do the powerbloc leaders feel about an occupancy-style sov system?

    I figure CFC wouldn't mind since they occupy most of their space, but RA would probably get fucked by a lack of renter income.
    RA is getting fucked regardless of income

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    Well it seems there is a big change on it's way & seeing as they didn't and\or don't want their systems any more I guess it's nearly time to say well done to Solar and friends. I think one of the biggest mistakes RA and friends have made in the war was thinking they were just going to walk over Solar and friends and now an alliance that was some what smaller than their aggressors has basically wiped the floor with them. Was there unseen forces at play in the background? I doubt it very much as why would it have been needed when RA and friends are their own worst enemies?
    What is to happen with all of the RA pets? Will they do what they always do and just go become someone elses pet or will they head back to where they belong in high security space? Maybe they will all take up doing incursions? OR maybe RA will invite them to go along with them to where ever they are going so that RA still at least has a meat shield of some sort to help continue soften the blows they are receiving. (Maybe?)
    So with a very high possibility of RA being kerb stomped till movement ceases whats the final tally going to be for each side? (Including the pet alliances for both sides). I think solar will have won on all fronts.

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    Not quite. RA is down to its bones now - and it's survived. And it will survive - just because members want it too. They have a very, very hardcore core that just needs a good FC. Otherwise - they're improving in every category, and very quickly.

    Getting fucked and failscading are two different things.

    And Solar and co won't really win anything until PL/NC. leave. When they aren't busy testing how many supers they can lose in a day they are actually pretty good at fighting spaceships. And they have the advantage of timers being in their TZ.

    But that's abstract because PL/NCdot won't leave. From CSAA's to goodfites, there's plenty of reason to stay.

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    To be honest, I distrust statements that RA will be destroyed simply because it's been said before. A lot. RA's still here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    To be honest, I distrust statements that RA will be destroyed simply because it's been said before. A lot. RA's still here.
    RA's already moved out most of the big stuff. They don't even show up to timers anymore.

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    RA is a cockroach much like AAA, it just refuses to die. The Russians in RA have a very high level of pride in their alliance name, and will refuse to let it go away even when they have offers from better-organized groups.

    I suspect they will live in NPC 0.0, possibly Curse, until they can make a push at re-taking the space.

    As for when they will evacuate, if it isn't already happening, I suspect it will start when C-J falls. C-J is a very important system to them.

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    whats the deal with cj to the russians? back in atlas we conquered/fought over that system 10times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    whats the deal with cj to the russians?
    Ancestral home and all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller View Post
    How do the powerbloc leaders feel about an occupancy-style sov system?

    I figure CFC wouldn't mind since they occupy most of their space, but RA would probably get fucked by a lack of renter income.
    I often thought this was a good way to do it. Just an example, RA has sov in much of Scalding pass, and there has literally been one RA doing ratting there for like 2 years in KZF. It is kind of retarded how much effort it would take to take sov away from one dude in a golem in the current system.

    Basically, if your alliance is 'using' a system more than other alliances past some magical threshold you get sov.

    The problem is figuring out the actual concrete rules the game would use. It would get really complicated and likely make no sense in some cases anyway. It would also be hard for smaller but very fierce PvP entity defend from an avalanche of terrible pvpers and miners. It would also be hard for force to occupy and take over sov in specific system when they can't dock, but the 'defenders' can.

    In spirit it makes the most sense, technically its a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    whats the deal with cj to the russians? back in atlas we conquered/fought over that system 10times.
    As Grath said, it has history

    just the same as H-W to the ex-NC, and GE- to AAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marivauder View Post
    As Grath said, it has history

    just the same as H-W to the ex-NC, and GE- to AAA
    Also MN5N-X to PL (a System we have to this very day never lost).
    [IMG]https://www.pandemic-legion.com/forums/image.php?u=1218&type=sigpic&dateline=1226360240[/IMG]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    when you are cocksucking nobodies who are 12th rate "mercs" and trying to pull off a PL and fail horribly yeah your pretty much dead
    It's always nice to receive a positive compliment, even if only marginally better than "Faggots from Curse" (we're not actually *from* Curse ofc). Didn't your alliance failcascade recently or am I confusing you with someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinique View Post
    Also MN5N-X to PL (a System we have to this very day never lost).
    Hard to lose NPC-Space

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matos View Post
    Hard to lose NPC-Space
    Thats the joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodnovick View Post
    Thats the joke.
    Just thought I would spare others the trouble to look it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matos View Post
    Just thought I would spare others the trouble to look it up
    If you have to explain the joke, it no longer is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsthejoke View Post
    If you have to explain the joke, it no longer is one.
    If only more people in the world understood this simple principle.

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    Only -a- got the joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jita911 View Post
    The problem is figuring out the actual concrete rules the game would use. It would get really complicated and likely make no sense in some cases anyway. It would also be hard for smaller but very fierce PvP entity defend from an avalanche of terrible pvpers and miners. It would also be hard for force to occupy and take over sov in specific system when they can't dock, but the 'defenders' can.
    If you are a 'smaller but very fierce PvP entity' that can't keep your shit from getting swarmed by 'an avalanche of terrible pvpers and miners' then you don't deserve to own that space and you should get thrown out on your ass

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    The only people living in MN5 are a bunch of dirty Bulgarians renting off the Serpentis
    Your posting has been Adjusted

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    Those bulgarians been in Fountain core long before Test and BDeal even existed, raping terrible alliances and killing their stupid supercap pilots. I was glad to see they can still do it with those BDeal supers a week ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoo View Post
    Well, if you are dedicated -- you can still work around it with alarm clocks. SOLAR have demonstrated this effectively by doing 4 alarmclocks in a week which will have captured them 5-7 systems when it's all and done and swinged the momentum significantly.

    So while the sov system sucks for TZ war -- it is still workable if you care enough. I do agree it doesn't change the fact it sucks though v0v.
    Simple recruit corps in different tz. Sticking to your lingua and not be inclusive is shit imao, I work 12 hrs shifts am/pm so I love the fact my Alliance has nearly 23.5 hr coverage, we may be few, but dedicated nevertheless for the odd alarm clock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinique View Post
    Also MN5N-X to PL (a System we have to this very day never lost).
    Yeah and never held either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y SO MAD View Post
    Not quite. RA is down to its bones now - and it's survived. And it will survive - just because members want it too. They have a very, very hardcore core that just needs a good FC. Otherwise - they're improving in every category, and very quickly.

    Getting fucked and failscading are two different things.

    And Solar and co won't really win anything until PL/NC. leave. When they aren't busy testing how many supers they can lose in a day they are actually pretty good at fighting spaceships. And they have the advantage of timers being in their TZ.

    But that's abstract because PL/NCdot won't leave. From CSAA's to goodfites, there's plenty of reason to stay.
    Disagree with you, Northern Associates, will diaf once Tribute is next on someone list bye bye NC.dot goo.

    Region of Death supply most of the big toys that PL use and that will dry up I hope.

    RA are having their face kicked in, Raiden.dot with the help of Evoke/Ewoks are busy as fuck fending off CFC.
    And Region of Deaths pets are dying fast hehe.

    PL/NC.dot face Solar/Gypsy (they are going toe to toe (AND DO NOT FEAR the Bogey man) and PL held goo will be targets you know as soon as RA are in npc space (bye bye renters)

    Don't forget those who believed Region of Death/RA pay book strategy was clads-tine, those cheques will be as good as aka Greek defaults pretty much soon.

    Bye Bye RA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afr1can View Post

    Bye Bye RA...
    Your potential possible future ignores politics and game changes, and what I mean by that is all of those things are possible, except for the back room dealings of leaders, who don't care about old grudges or petty hatred from people like you, in the end, they cut deals that benefit them the most, meaning that just about everything you predicted won't actually happen, coupled with the possibility of game mechanics in flux in the next 3 months.

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    That and everyone will be winning at Eve by playing free Dust


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    Huge post from MACTEP went public on eve-ru.com

    Includes stuff like how the NC campaign came about, who was behind it, incompetence in the DRF, how much and with what PL was paid - how Vuk Lau almost disbanded SF and made 250 billion by blackmailing MACTEP, where all the DRF supers came from - how tech moons were divided between the DRF/PL/NC. How the DRF was considering attacking Solar Fleet after the fall of the NC - and just how close the DRF came to losing the war against NC. Also interesting are the parts about just who is RMTing.

    It's huge and I can't be bothered to translate it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y SO MAD View Post

    It's huge and I can't be bothered to translate it right now.
    I hope the term 'dick tease' isn't somehow lost in the translation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y SO MAD View Post
    Also interesting are the parts about just who is RMTing.








    Negrep away, but i could't pass up the chance to post this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y SO MAD View Post
    Huge post from MACTEP went public on eve-ru.com

    Includes stuff like how the NC campaign came about, who was behind it, incompetence in the DRF, how much and with what PL was paid - how Vuk Lau almost disbanded SF and made 250 billion by blackmailing MACTEP, where all the DRF supers came from - how tech moons were divided between the DRF/PL/NC. How the DRF was considering attacking Solar Fleet after the fall of the NC - and just how close the DRF came to losing the war against NC. Also interesting are the parts about just who is RMTing.

    It's huge and I can't be bothered to translate it right now.
    cant wait for when you or someone does have time ^^

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    I am also drooling in anticipation.

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    Enough +rep will be given for that post to satisfy even the most egoistical man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y SO MAD View Post
    Huge post from MACTEP went public on eve-ru.com

    Includes stuff like how the NC campaign came about, who was behind it, incompetence in the DRF, how much and with what PL was paid - how Vuk Lau almost disbanded SF and made 250 billion by blackmailing MACTEP, where all the DRF supers came from - how tech moons were divided between the DRF/PL/NC. How the DRF was considering attacking Solar Fleet after the fall of the NC - and just how close the DRF came to losing the war against NC. Also interesting are the parts about just who is RMTing.

    It's huge and I can't be bothered to translate it right now.
    Link pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marivauder View Post
    As Grath said, it has history

    just the same as H-W to the ex-NC, and GE- to AAA

    nah..... GE- does not belong in that group, station there was the 2nd or 3rd COL built for AAA and was made alliance/friends HQ because of x-roads location (Morris Falter chose the system iirc) and loads of office space being a gallente station.
    As far as AAA being emo about it .. nah not really.
    LGK on the other hand......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymir View Post
    LGK on the other hand......
    Alliances define an HQ as one of their own stations; whereas, AAA uses ~elite manouvers~ and declares an NPC station as their own. GOOD PLOY, AAA, GOOD PLOY.
    "It pains me to say it but you are a good poster." - Vonq

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus View Post
    Alliances define an HQ as one of their own stations; whereas, AAA uses ~elite manouvers~ and declares an NPC station as their own. GOOD PLOY, AAA, GOOD PLOY.
    Then tell me good sir.. where is PL HQ?

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