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    We could replace the reason text box with a drop down menu list of possible reasons. You could then select the applicable reason, saving the time and effort of typing it in. I think we could cover about 90% or more of them with the following 5:

    1. Post made by an idiot
    2. Post made by a faggot
    3. Post made by someone in Goonswarm
    4. Post made by someone not in Goonswarm
    5. Post made by Riverini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    However, it appears it's now being used as a tool to get people to upgrade their accounts.
    How? I have foreplay access, and I can't see who repped me, negative or otherwise.
    Turning pretend colourblind angels from spaceship to madship samurais, one post at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    How? I have foreplay access, and I can't see who repped me, negative or otherwise.
    confirmed. i guess unless you are an admin or have been blessed by mullah you are not exempt from the reputation plebs anymore. which is good.

    Here are some of our ideas so far:

    Wiki - It probably won't be as useful as the Goonfleet wiki for in-game stuff, but we imagine it might be a good way to archive the happenings of EVE. One of Foreplay's useful services is that it has a wealth of content from the past, and I know a lot of people have complimented positively on that. I'm willing to risk cutting some of our income by having a wiki that gives summaries of past (and current) drama.
    at least a battlereport wiki where people can access summed up information they'd usually have to spend hours on to to piece it together themselves using various third-party sites. could be foreplay exclusive (at least for discussion and while editing it), but not necessarily. just make sure that you-know-who does not hijack it for his own purposes :P.

    Themes - This board has one or two themes and they're both shitty. Maybe we could hire some people to make better ones?
    +1 although i don't really care about it. leightweight= good.

    Fixing the forums - Little things like the rep system are literally broken and we could probably spare a bit of money to have custom code that fixes that for us. The Gold Stars will finally return, and Riverini's rep will light up like a red giant.
    sometimes the reputation function helps to avoid a shitload of "+1" or "faggot" replies that fill up the next 10 pages until the discussion returns to the original subject. i don't know how, but the rep system could certainly use some love and attention.

    Any other ideas or suggestions?
    occasional live streams (jita cam style) of certain systems of interest. fuck that intel channel spai, why not use a live broadcast of a certain soon-to-be-crushed gatecamp of your choice and enjoy the sight of exploding things live on ze interwebs:P. a "kugutsumen" channel on justin.tv or else could be hilarious. you could use kugu as a place to request the cam bots..
    someone else did it already + live commentary, and i thought it was a marvellous idea.

    i do occasionally stream my intel bots to a private channel i can watch during breaks at the university/office... and enjoy watching cloaky ratting tengu pilots go mad in local and other bots do... nothing. my nerdmusk gets stronger with every minute of it.

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    I like the theme and as Phineas said, light is good and means fast loads and minimal distraction.

    I think the wiki is a great idea. It'd be interesting to have a kind of eve history available with porn excerpts.

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    Another idea (dunno if anyone mentioned it) is make people have to register with their in game names, no more of this forum identity BS where I have to ask on comms who is this fagola neg repping me and why do they care? Another upside of this transparency is, you can even out the rep bandwagoning by making multiple votes one way or the other count less the more there are from the same corp/alliance (over a period of time).

    Also, get rid of "power". I see the idea behind it, but it's tough to get started posting on here when your first faultering posts get negrepped by some all powerful forum being like Agathor (for example) and you get to claw your way back from -3 immediately. (Agathor hasn't negrepped me, but he did plus rep me and single-handedly put me over 1 from negative, just an example of someone with crazy power)
    Jeff Raider > oh i think you'll find the opposite to be true my friend i am among kugus best posters are you are among the worst as evidenced by our reputations on this site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoogafoots Jones View Post
    Another idea (dunno if anyone mentioned it) is make people have to register with their in game names, no more of this forum identity BS where I have to ask on comms who is this fagola neg repping me and why do they care? Another upside of this transparency is, you can even out the rep bandwagoning by making multiple votes one way or the other count less the more there are from the same corp/alliance (over a period of time).
    We play EvE. People would just circumvent this. Everyone who wanted to could just post with an NPC/Spy alt. Its so easy to circumvent for such a small benefit that I doubt its worth even thinking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matos View Post
    We play EvE. People would just circumvent this. Everyone who wanted to could just post with an NPC/Spy alt. Its so easy to circumvent for such a small benefit that I doubt its worth even thinking about.
    I don't understand your argument.

    Circumvent what?

    Why would anyone want to post/downvote/do fucking anything on kugu with a "spy alt"?
    Jeff Raider > oh i think you'll find the opposite to be true my friend i am among kugus best posters are you are among the worst as evidenced by our reputations on this site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoogafoots Jones View Post
    I don't understand your argument.

    Circumvent what?

    Why would anyone want to post/downvote/do fucking anything on kugu with a "spy alt"?
    Why would anyone register with his Main so that his votes count less if his corpies negreg someone as well? (I admit spy alts are a terrible example)

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    If, as a wild example I wanted a different identity on a forum as I do ingame why wouldn't I reg with my Jita alt achieving nothing in the end... is what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matos
    Why would anyone register with his Main so that his votes count less if his corpies negreg someone as well? (I admit spy alts are a terrible example)
    I guess, the last bit I kind of threw in at the end. But I see what you're saying... I still think making everyone use at least some kind of EVE identity, alt or otherwise is preferable. If someone is neckbeard enough to register alts to empower voting, well that's sad as fuck, but yea...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Amarria View Post
    If, as a wild example I wanted a different identity on a forum as I do ingame why wouldn't I reg with my Jita alt achieving nothing in the end... is what he said.
    I mean I guess, but I just don't see the point of doing this? (Maybe I'm not autistic enough?) Like, your EVE opinion is so controversial you just have to post with an alt?

    Also as far as the whole identity thing, yeaaahhh... I don't RP so the whole identity thing is lost on me. I guess your argument goes like this: "Sometimes I want to post as a space slaver, but other days I want to post a space facist... other times I want to post as a bi-sexual space anarchist. Why would you want to pigeon hole me????" Izzat about right?
    Jeff Raider > oh i think you'll find the opposite to be true my friend i am among kugus best posters are you are among the worst as evidenced by our reputations on this site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoogafoots Jones View Post
    Another idea (dunno if anyone mentioned it) is make people have to register with their in game names, no more of this forum identity BS where I have to ask on comms who is this fagola neg repping me and why do they care? Another upside of this transparency is, you can even out the rep bandwagoning by making multiple votes one way or the other count less the more there are from the same corp/alliance (over a period of time).
    This would be hella complicated to implement, can't you just not care about whether people rep you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    This would be hella complicated to implement, can't you just not care about whether people rep you?
    It also goes pretty much against anything that k.com has been and stood for.
    Even FHC was smart enough to not continute SHC's War & Politics API-verification method. Eveger.de is another terrible forum requiring API-verification for posters.
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    W&P was never api verified, but you had to request access to a forum group to be able to post (which was taken away upon retardation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    W&P was never api verified, but you had to request access to a forum group to be able to post (which was taken away upon retardation)
    Ah well, then it's this way. api-v method is true for eveger anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    How? I have foreplay access, and I can't see who repped me, negative or otherwise.
    Erm... are you sure? I can. In fact I think it's one of the cooler foreplay features. I don't really like the idea of foreplayfags losing stuff here that they once had. I'm not saying I'd cancel my sub if they took it away, I just think it would be a piss-poor way to encourage people to sub to foreplay. I mainly do foreplay to support the site anyway but yeah they should be thinking of trying to find ways to maximize their subscriber base. Not everyone is like me going "wow I love this site and want to support it so it will be here for a long time." v0v most people want/expect some sort of spiff for forking over their hard-earned RL-isk -- especially people who are still in that "$15 bucks a month is a high percentage of my net income" period of their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T'Renn View Post
    Erm... are you sure? I can. In fact I think it's one of the cooler foreplay features. I don't really like the idea of foreplayfags losing stuff here that they once had. I'm not saying I'd cancel my sub if they took it away, I just think it would be a piss-poor way to encourage people to sub to foreplay. I mainly do foreplay to support the site anyway but yeah they should be thinking of trying to find ways to maximize their subscriber base. Not everyone is like me going "wow I love this site and want to support it so it will be here for a long time." v0v most people want/expect some sort of spiff for forking over their hard-earned RL-isk -- especially people who are still in that "$15 bucks a month is a high percentage of my net income" period of their lives.
    It was taken from everyone, not just Foreplay members. What apparently wasn't done was to remove to from subscribers/donators; you're profiting of a glitch. The usergroup system's a mess for years frankly. Models > eve forums, and I don't blame the man in the slightest.
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    oh I didn't realize it was a glitch and don't want anything that anyone else doesn't have so hopefully an admin can fix that so I can continue to be just like everyone else, just with worse posting habits

  18. Ask Me About My Flux Capacitor Fix Lag's Avatar
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    Yeah BRB handing over my API key to Mullah Nasrudin who will surely use all private information he gathers about me in a way that I will approve of


    Oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoogafoots Jones View Post
    I mean I guess, but I just don't see the point of doing this? (Maybe I'm not autistic enough?) Like, your EVE opinion is so controversial you just have to post with an alt?
    My guess is most people do this to avoid being seen as just another GoonN00BPet, Evoke Hax0r, WH Aspie, highsec Puppy or whatever prejudices people have against your Corp/Alliance/Bloc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix Lag View Post
    Yeah BRB handing over my API key to Mullah Nasrudin who will surely use all private information he gathers about me in a way that I will approve of


    Oh wait.
    Well, frankly with the modern CAKs it wouldn't even be that much of an issue. But aside from "ideologic" reasons (the whole gathering intel/porn/expose BoB/CCP corruption theme), that's certainly a practical reason why that wouldn't have worked out in the earlier days of the DSE.
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    The universe is hostile, so impersonal: Devour to survive - So it is, so it's always been!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix Lag View Post
    Yeah BRB handing over my API key to Mullah Nasrudin who will surely use all private information he gathers about me in a way that I will approve of


    Oh wait.

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    Some people are banned from posting by their corp/alliance/coalition leaders. Some people are posing as others, for various reasons. Some want to remain anonymous, for various reasons. Some are just random assholes. Virtually everyone does not want to submit any kind of API key.

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    I'm not going to require people to post with their mains as that is retarded in so many ways. There is literally 0 reasons to give a fuck if someone posts on their main or not.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaclypse View Post
    Well, frankly with the modern CAKs it wouldn't even be that much of an issue. But aside from "ideoloigical" reasons (the whole gathering intel/porn/expose BoB/CCP corruption theme), that's certainly a practical reason why that wouldn't have worked out in the earlier days of the DSE.
    Don't some folks use API to get onto other people's coms? I'd imagine that alone could be a problem.

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    god damn fix rep, I have a backlog of butthurt pubbie faggots that i need to revengeneg AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
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    A funny thing about not seeing who reps you is that there are a few people revenge negrepping with "I KNOW IT WAS YOU" messages, and they're doing it to people who haven't given them any neg rep.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    A funny thing about not seeing who reps you is that there are a few people revenge negrepping with "I KNOW IT WAS YOU" messages, and they're doing it to people who haven't given them any neg rep.
    Haha, Wirty Dhore has been signing his "you're a faggot" negreps with other peoples' name for a while now. I'm curious to see how it plays out, especially if you ever allow people to see who's repped them again.
    [URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12609601"][ 2012.03.02 08:32:51 ] Kurth Ren > whereas love squad avoids any engagement that is not a onesided curbstomp[/URL]
    [URL="http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888507"][ 2012.03.02 08:34:08 ] Kurth Ren > but you are literally arguing with the inventor of broski, you aren't going to win a debate about broski history with me[/URL]
    [URL="http://unidan.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1876"][ 2012.03.02 08:40:48 ] Kurth Ren > it's filled with bitter faggots who would rather be slaves to finns and run at the first sign of a fight then go on ops[/URL]

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    The hiding of rep was an incredibly gay move. Groups will still organise to neg rep people but now the people wont have the chance to retaliate.

    I miss the old kugu with rep wars and a few allowed shit post ok threads

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    Gestaposumen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grogoth View Post
    Gestaposumen
    Ve vill not ztand for thiz type of zlander!

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    Figure out a way to make Eve less of a shit game.

    Thats probably already been suggested though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocrumsprug View Post
    Figure out a way to make Eve less of a shit game.
    There is none, just don't play, i personally use eve as an excuse to play lots of other games to play with my corp, and maybe log in for 1 op and then continue playing LoL or Air Buccaneers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Securitas View Post
    Dude you negrep me habitually over the dumbest shit and I don't think I've mentioned it in a long time.
    Stop posting the dumbest shit and people might not negrep you over it vOv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marivauder View Post
    There is none, just don't play, i personally use eve as an excuse to play lots of other games to play with my corp, and maybe log in for 1 op and then continue playing LoL or Air Buccaneers
    No worries, it is basically a Zen Koan.

    What is the sound of one hand clapping?

    What if Eve Online (a bad game) was a good game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endie View Post
    Stop posting the dumbest shit and people might not negrep you over it vOv
    Apparently you didn't understand. "Over the dumbest shit" = for the dumbest reasons. EG, "he gets angry at me over the dumbest shit" does not mean "he gets angry because I am doing the dumbest shit."

    Unless they speak a different version of english in scotland or something v0v

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    Quote Originally Posted by Securitas View Post
    Apparently you didn't understand. "Over the dumbest shit" = for the dumbest reasons. EG, "he gets angry at me over the dumbest shit" does not mean "he gets angry because I am doing the dumbest shit."

    Unless they speak a different version of english in scotland or something v0v
    You posted carelessly, using ambiguous language that left you open to a pithy and stinging response. Since the alternative was to engage with you on your own, humourless, white noise level I decided to make use of this opportunity to bring a little entertainment into the lives of others. I stand by my decision and would do it again in a second. All the more so for the hapless and helplessly flailing response that it elicited.

    As an addendum, I'd point out that if you really do want to make a "lol language" post (and I would suggest that, in future, you do not attempt to do so) then it is vitally important to remove the log from thine own eye, first. Your post is composed of astonishingly poor English throughout.

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    I get the feeling you two are going to suddenly bust out the Barry White and get down to business.

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    In the absence of any actual conflict in Eve sec-baiting is one of the few ways to pass the mornings.

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    i would like to hear a welsh opinion on that matter

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    I'd like to thank everyone involved for the thought and effort they've put in to steer the site away from the shitpile it was aiming towards. I don't think things were that awful, but there was definitely a downward trend, and I think a few considered changes have gone a long way to stopping a decline at its beginning.

    Running a spaceship forum is even more thankless than running a spaceship organization I'm sure, so thanks from someone who enjoys the site.

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    Describes some of the stuff in this thread?
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    Nerf those stupidly oversized signatures some people use around here.

    It is really a pain sometimes having to browse the forum on my mobile and then scroll trough pages of posts where people have such large signatures that they take more space then the their actual post.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stronke View Post
    Nerf those stupidly oversized signatures some people use around here. It is really a pain sometimes having to browse the forum on my mobile and then scroll trough pages of posts where people have such large signatures that they take more space then the their actual post.
    Dont worry Stronke, even if this place filling up with faggots. You will always have a rep tit to come home to. These fools are sadly mistaken I wont keep on headshooting them.

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    make a Ke$ha themed sub-forum please

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    ok.. a mother breastfeeding a child is NSFW now. You learn something new everyday.

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    Exposed breasts aren't work safe; news at 11.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Make this place better;

    Demod Vinata

    E: no seriously, you are literally CCP Greyscale
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    With an exposed breast, even if it's nursing, I can't browse this while proctoring a test for people under the age of 18. Without it, I can. It shouldn't be that way, but because I live in America, it is.

    I'm actually a bit confused now, with the "shitpost ok" announcement, what rules are still in play. Are u mad and image macros still infractable?

    Incidentally, although the new rules may not have been enforced as consistently as people might have liked, or moderators might not have been as active as people wanted, I did notice an uptick in quality and an improvement in the signal to noise ratio. While I generally believe in lighter moderation, to me it seems like the site improved. YMMV, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainktainer View Post
    Are u mad and image macros still infractable?
    "U mad" posts and other tired, dead horse beating bullshit, stupid reddit memes, "Would've repped you but can't!!"-posts, emptyquotes, and their ilk are still infractable, site-wide. As for Image Macros, officially we're supposed to infract posts that are solely image macros, so if people really want to post one, they can just put a few lines of text/a sentence below them, it's really not that hard. Sometimes, though, a picture is worth a thousand words, so if the image macro is a gif or something with relevant captions it's probably fine (see : most of bobbechk's posts)

    I'm not a fan of overmoderation either, but in practice there is an awful lot of dumb shit being posted at the moment ; it's mainly by newly-regged people who don't understand the rules (we should probably look into that too), and by the odd persistent long-term shitposter, such as <name your favourite dumbass>, with the odd lapse by established posters. Once we deal with those, and clean up a few other minor issues, such as inconsistent rules in E-OU, we can hopefully go back to being seen rather than heard (and I can go back to 24/7 spergposting!). If we have to be seen to infract someone, we've already failed somewhat - it's better to prevent shitposting than to cure it through clear cut and consistent rules.

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