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    Default Scammer took my cash/I feel like killing myself/IRLIngame (blawrf vs human decency)



    "Why didn't we hire a fucking eagle?"



    I've played EVE for about seven months or so now, and on my first week into the game I launched into scamming and had accumulated 7bill ISK in the next seven days. I bought a perfect Tengu EVEdude from another Goon and never really looked back at such honourless ways of making space-bucks bar the odd jaunt into recruitment scamming to help a newbee I took under my proverbial wing. I looked at people like Kharthis - who is a fucking amazing wonderful bastard and is quite probably the best scammer in GSF and EVE today - and lamented the fact that I burn out so goddamn easily at stuff. I envied their ability to keep at it, day after day, week after week, facing inexorable failure and certain ridicule at the furiously typed words of mouth-breathing pubbies. I envied, too, their ability to seemingly detach themselves from emotion in order to ruin all that these spasticated plebeians held dear. A week, 7bill ISK and a Tengu-dude and I was ready to sit back upon my laurels and grow space-fat to an extent that mirrors my actual body mass.


    It was not to be, however. My dear space-friend Kaleb Rysode highlighted me early one morning and dragged me from my bed, where I was shifting restlessly from those nightmares - the recurring ones, in which the faces of every poor mouthbreather I had released from the burden of this terrible game whispered bad things in my ear. Think Mass Effect 3 dream sequence, where I am Shepard and the fleeing child is my space innocence.


    Kaleb and I had met a couple of weeks before in Sigma jabber and we'd played sounding board together over a couple of low-value scams, just the good old Recruitment Director bullshit. For those of you who don't know this dude, he's both a proud (self-hating) Jew and an ex member of FA. Some say that he's to blame for the space-bushido FA vs TEST dickslap catfight this past November. Some say that he was the victim of an anti semitic assasination attempt by a very brown cab driver whilst riding his bike and in the resulting carnage, had an epiphany that led him to join Goonwaffe. All I know is that he is a magnificent bastard.


    "I've found the motherlode," he said. I stared groggily at my jabber window and replied - I figured he meant just another recruitment idiot, some guy with a spare bill and a Nightmare who wanted to shoot Guristas and hang out with the goonies because they really got us.


    Turned out I was wrong, though. The person that Kaleb had found was an established supercapital manufacturer, or so he claimed. I pulled my dressing gown tighter about myself and began to think as to how to work this. I'm not Kharthis, or any of those awesome supercapital scammers. How could I possibly pull this off? The answer came soon enough.


    <****>: I love [my ceo] but with my mental health problems they nearly pushed me to suicide this morning
    <****>: Spent the last 2 hours crying and holding a v.sharp knife. Started smoking again too



    MENTAL INSTABILITY. Jesus H Christ, I goddamn love mental instability. Not only was this guy about as bipolar as a cloned Frankenstein amalgamation of Stephen Fry and Kurt Cobain, but he was also having trouble in his current corp. Easy. I'm a fucking teaching assistant in a school for troubled children. This dude was the Smeagol of EVE; his ginormous blueprint collection was the One Ring and goddamn it was it calling to me.


    Anyway, we quickly decide how we want to introduce me into the scam. He's looking to join GSF and build shit for us, and, well, what self-respecting alliance DOESN'T have a supercapital building program? I was to pose as the Director of the CapSwarm Building Program2 and tell the mark just how EXCITED CBP were to have him. It worked, eventually, though our plan to have him drop all of his shit into the corp hangar was met with some resistance. Ballsy, I think - but the conversation was very much "hello, dude. My name is Blawrf, here's what we do: drop your billions of shit into the corporation hangar, so it can be audited. Thanks!"


    He was reticent.


    <****> actually 33 cap component bpos - 5 in research I forgot about
    <****> Hel Blueprint Nyx Blueprint Nyx Blueprint my first 3 intended projects
    <****> I'm happy if you want me to open trade and show you all my bpos
    <****> I'm just a bit uncomfortable dropping my eve life's work into a general hanger where they can get removed



    I convinced him that we needed him.


    <Blawrf McTaggart > But what complete mouth-breathing idiot would possibly try to screw over someone who could build supercapitals for the alliance? Who would do that? Why?
    <Blawrf McTaggart > I completely and utterly understand your prevarication and your worries, but I have to ask that. Someone as valued as yourself is offering your services and we are eternally grateful-
    <Blawrf McTaggart > Are you worried that we would, eh, take your BPOs?
    <****> yes honestly I am concerned
    <Blawrf McTaggart > Do you think we would risk both our reputation and a great asset for the alliance for- what- i'm guessing you have perhaps fourty bill ISK in BPOs?
    <Blawrf McTaggart > If I had my way, I would ask to view your BPOs through trade and I would be okay with that. GIA are not. GIA want it done their way, so they can use their own auditing tools.
    <Blawrf McTaggart > There would be one person inside of your corporation. They would have director roles, but they would never, ever think of taking your BPOs. They need to be in the hangar, as well as everything else, merely for auditing. It's the way it works. But mate-...
    <Blawrf McTaggart > We have trillions. Hundreds of trillions. We really do not want your BPOs, we want you.
    ?<Blawrf McTaggart > And, frankly, I couldn't scam to save my life. I'd end up blabbering like a fool.






    Our story picks up maybe three or four days later. Neither me nor Kaleb had heard from the mark since he left that conversation that night, claiming he needed to have a think - then, out of the blue, he opens a conversation with Kaleb.


    <****> What's new in the eveoverse
    <Kaleb Rysode> Not much, just getting rid of the squatters in Tenal.
    <Kaleb Rysode> And enjoying some mass effect 3 on the side.
    <Kaleb Rysode> How are you feeling?
    <****> In hospital bored stupid
    <Kaleb Rysode> ugh
    <Kaleb Rysode> what happened?
    <****> [My ceo] got stuck into me about the cap corp poss moving to gsf
    <****> So I took 60 Xanax



    In retrospect, it was probably here that I realised that this scam would go through. Perhaps I should've felt bad for scamming a mentally unstable dude who'd just tried to commit suicide, but I had tasted the power of the One Thousand Blueprints, I had unleashed a beast. I'd suffered too much of this guy's whiny bullshit to call it, now, and besides I don't live in America. There's not really much of a chance i'll be sued for stealing some bipolar dude's space-pixels. Me and Kaleb continued onward, somewhat like Frodo & Sam, treading deep into the dark lands of Sociopathy.




    "We wants it, we needs it! Must have the precious!"



    Our mark insists that as he has been hospitalised, so the rest of the scam is plagued by pauses and breaks during which he presumably loses his entire personality and being to the cocktail of uppers and downers that they're forcing down his throat, but we persist. We both get a little pissed, but we present a united front and, finally, we get the API keys of his ELEVEN (11) accounts. I act the nice guy, the dude on his side against the menacing shadow of the GIA.


    <Blawrf McTaggart> Grand. GIA have asked me to get this whole deal tied up so we can get you into the alliance and all done, so here's what I want to do-
    <Blawrf McTaggart> I'm going to ask you to drop roles in your current corp and leave, we'll then get you into the corp. which - if you check it ingame - you'll see is blue to GSF.



    Note: the corp description simply said "blue to GSF."


    <Blawrf McTaggart> In order to get both of this audit sorted - we'll ask for two things. We'll give you all the roles necessary within the corp so that you effectively own it.
    <Blawrf McTaggart> We'll ask you for a simple API code for each of your cap and cbp accounts that simply shows your ingame belongings, and we'll ask for you to deposit all of the cap-building equipment into the corp hangar at the office station.
    <Blawrf McTaggart> Your stuff will be in the hangar for 24-48 hours, at the very most. We'll ask that everything is deposited simply so that we know what you have and we have everything we need to know.



    With the API keys in hand, we check to see what he's got. He wasn't lying. This was truly the motherlode. I've included our takings in the spoiler at the bottom of this post. I should note that the mark voluntarily gave me the FULL API keys to each of his accounts, with the message "this is how much I trust you."


    From here on, there is no persuading to be done. I have this dude following my every move - he is the space-Lennie to my space-George, and he doesn't know it, but i'm about to (warning: Of Mice and Men spoilers) shoot him in the back of his head with a space-revolver.


    Metaphorically.


    I let him know that the GIA (read: me and Kaleb) had found some anomalous assets sitting around the universe that we would like him to contract. He says sure, logs on and contracts it. Sansha Control Tower, Charon, half of a Nyx + BPC, roughly fifteen subcaps. It takes another couple of days for us to finally find a time when we were all on at the same time, but when we did - and when the mark presumably stopped popping pills enough to think a single coherent thought - we finalised the scam.


    It's a bit anti-climactic, really. I spoke to him on messenger and told him to log on and dump all that he had in the corporation hangar. I should note that I had tried to nab around 12bill in ships before this, but he had gotten a bit uppity and I decided it a bit too dangerous to push. The day when he deposits every single one of his BPOs?


    <Blawrf McTaggart> Take a look through your own assets. I hate to be blunt, but anything of worth needs to be declared, so let me know if you find anything.
    <****> Rorqual and Archon in Vehan
    <****> I'll contract to corp if needed
    <****> and ofc the freighter and rhea



    That's right. Those self-same ships he fussed about, he offered to me, like some sickening sacrifice to heathen gods. We then noticed that he had a wallet of 8bill, liquid. How to scam that from him?


    Oh yes! How better than to suggest he buys a Ragnarok BPC and contracts it. I mean, we can get him 20bill ISK profit in weeks!


    Idiot.


    Total haul? I'll include screenshots and a rough list in the spoiler tags below.


    Oh, and my goodbye message to the guy?


    <****> My wife keeps nagging me that there must be a way to make money in the game [rather than plex]. I tell her the cap bpos are investing in the game
    <****> She usually buys it
    <Blawrf McTaggart> Be careful with them, then, yeah?
    <Blawrf McTaggart> Don't give them to someone you don't trust.








    "We made it, Mister Frodo."

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    Oh, and the guy is going to start electroshock therapy tomorrow. Just thought I'd add that.

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    What's this? A well written and interesting OP in a Kugu thread?

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    Nicely done.

    Also reminds me of how much I love this emote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister McTag View Post


    "Why didn't we hire a fucking eagle?"



    I've played EVE for about seven months or so now, and on my first week into the game I launched into scamming and had accumulated 7bill ISK in the next seven days. I bought a perfect Tengu EVEdude from another Goon and never really looked back at such honourless ways of making space-bucks bar the odd jaunt into recruitment scamming to help a newbee I took under my proverbial wing. I looked at people like Kharthis - who is a fucking amazing wonderful bastard and is quite probably the best scammer in GSF and EVE today - and lamented the fact that I burn out so goddamn easily at stuff. I envied their ability to keep at it, day after day, week after week, facing inexorable failure and certain ridicule at the furiously typed words of mouth-breathing pubbies. I envied, too, their ability to seemingly detach themselves from emotion in order to ruin all that these spasticated plebeians held dear. A week, 7bill ISK and a Tengu-dude and I was ready to sit back upon my laurels and grow space-fat to an extent that mirrors my actual body mass.


    It was not to be, however. My dear space-friend Kaleb Rysode highlighted me early one morning and dragged me from my bed, where I was shifting restlessly from those nightmares - the recurring ones, in which the faces of every poor mouthbreather I had released from the burden of this terrible game whispered bad things in my ear. Think Mass Effect 3 dream sequence, where I am Shepard and the fleeing child is my space innocence.


    Kaleb and I had met a couple of weeks before in Sigma jabber and we'd played sounding board together over a couple of low-value scams, just the good old Recruitment Director bullshit. For those of you who don't know this dude, he's both a proud (self-hating) Jew and an ex member of FA. Some say that he's to blame for the space-bushido FA vs TEST dickslap catfight this past November. Some say that he was the victim of an anti semitic assasination attempt by a very brown cab driver whilst riding his bike and in the resulting carnage, had an epiphany that led him to join Goonwaffe. All I know is that he is a magnificent bastard.


    "I've found the motherlode," he said. I stared groggily at my jabber window and replied - I figured he meant just another recruitment idiot, some guy with a spare bill and a Nightmare who wanted to shoot Guristas and hang out with the goonies because they really got us.


    Turned out I was wrong, though. The person that Kaleb had found was an established supercapital manufacturer, or so he claimed. I pulled my dressing gown tighter about myself and began to think as to how to work this. I'm not Kharthis, or any of those awesome supercapital scammers. How could I possibly pull this off? The answer came soon enough.


    <****>: I love [my ceo] but with my mental health problems they nearly pushed me to suicide this morning
    <****>: Spent the last 2 hours crying and holding a v.sharp knife. Started smoking again too



    MENTAL INSTABILITY. Jesus H Christ, I goddamn love mental instability. Not only was this guy about as bipolar as a cloned Frankenstein amalgamation of Stephen Fry and Kurt Cobain, but he was also having trouble in his current corp. Easy. I'm a fucking teaching assistant in a school for troubled children. This dude was the Smeagol of EVE; his ginormous blueprint collection was the One Ring and goddamn it was it calling to me.


    Anyway, we quickly decide how we want to introduce me into the scam. He's looking to join GSF and build shit for us, and, well, what self-respecting alliance DOESN'T have a supercapital building program? I was to pose as the Director of the CapSwarm Building Program2 and tell the mark just how EXCITED CBP were to have him. It worked, eventually, though our plan to have him drop all of his shit into the corp hangar was met with some resistance. Ballsy, I think - but the conversation was very much "hello, dude. My name is Blawrf, here's what we do: drop your billions of shit into the corporation hangar, so it can be audited. Thanks!"


    He was reticent.


    <****> actually 33 cap component bpos - 5 in research I forgot about
    <****> Hel Blueprint Nyx Blueprint Nyx Blueprint my first 3 intended projects
    <****> I'm happy if you want me to open trade and show you all my bpos
    <****> I'm just a bit uncomfortable dropping my eve life's work into a general hanger where they can get removed



    I convinced him that we needed him.


    <Blawrf McTaggart > But what complete mouth-breathing idiot would possibly try to screw over someone who could build supercapitals for the alliance? Who would do that? Why?
    <Blawrf McTaggart > I completely and utterly understand your prevarication and your worries, but I have to ask that. Someone as valued as yourself is offering your services and we are eternally grateful-
    <Blawrf McTaggart > Are you worried that we would, eh, take your BPOs?
    <****> yes honestly I am concerned
    <Blawrf McTaggart > Do you think we would risk both our reputation and a great asset for the alliance for- what- i'm guessing you have perhaps fourty bill ISK in BPOs?
    <Blawrf McTaggart > If I had my way, I would ask to view your BPOs through trade and I would be okay with that. GIA are not. GIA want it done their way, so they can use their own auditing tools.
    <Blawrf McTaggart > There would be one person inside of your corporation. They would have director roles, but they would never, ever think of taking your BPOs. They need to be in the hangar, as well as everything else, merely for auditing. It's the way it works. But mate-...
    <Blawrf McTaggart > We have trillions. Hundreds of trillions. We really do not want your BPOs, we want you.
    ?<Blawrf McTaggart > And, frankly, I couldn't scam to save my life. I'd end up blabbering like a fool.






    Our story picks up maybe three or four days later. Neither me nor Kaleb had heard from the mark since he left that conversation that night, claiming he needed to have a think - then, out of the blue, he opens a conversation with Kaleb.


    <****> What's new in the eveoverse
    <Kaleb Rysode> Not much, just getting rid of the squatters in Tenal.
    <Kaleb Rysode> And enjoying some mass effect 3 on the side.
    <Kaleb Rysode> How are you feeling?
    <****> In hospital bored stupid
    <Kaleb Rysode> ugh
    <Kaleb Rysode> what happened?
    <****> [My ceo] got stuck into me about the cap corp poss moving to gsf
    <****> So I took 60 Xanax



    In retrospect, it was probably here that I realised that this scam would go through. Perhaps I should've felt bad for scamming a mentally unstable dude who'd just tried to commit suicide, but I had tasted the power of the One Thousand Blueprints, I had unleashed a beast. I'd suffered too much of this guy's whiny bullshit to call it, now, and besides I don't live in America. There's not really much of a chance i'll be sued for stealing some bipolar dude's space-pixels. Me and Kaleb continued onward, somewhat like Frodo & Sam, treading deep into the dark lands of Sociopathy.




    "We wants it, we needs it! Must have the precious!"



    Our mark insists that as he has been hospitalised, so the rest of the scam is plagued by pauses and breaks during which he presumably loses his entire personality and being to the cocktail of uppers and downers that they're forcing down his throat, but we persist. We both get a little pissed, but we present a united front and, finally, we get the API keys of his ELEVEN (11) accounts. I act the nice guy, the dude on his side against the menacing shadow of the GIA.


    <Blawrf McTaggart> Grand. GIA have asked me to get this whole deal tied up so we can get you into the alliance and all done, so here's what I want to do-
    <Blawrf McTaggart> I'm going to ask you to drop roles in your current corp and leave, we'll then get you into the corp. which - if you check it ingame - you'll see is blue to GSF.



    Note: the corp description simply said "blue to GSF."


    <Blawrf McTaggart> In order to get both of this audit sorted - we'll ask for two things. We'll give you all the roles necessary within the corp so that you effectively own it.
    <Blawrf McTaggart> We'll ask you for a simple API code for each of your cap and cbp accounts that simply shows your ingame belongings, and we'll ask for you to deposit all of the cap-building equipment into the corp hangar at the office station.
    <Blawrf McTaggart> Your stuff will be in the hangar for 24-48 hours, at the very most. We'll ask that everything is deposited simply so that we know what you have and we have everything we need to know.



    With the API keys in hand, we check to see what he's got. He wasn't lying. This was truly the motherlode. I've included our takings in the spoiler at the bottom of this post. I should note that the mark voluntarily gave me the FULL API keys to each of his accounts, with the message "this is how much I trust you."


    From here on, there is no persuading to be done. I have this dude following my every move - he is the space-Lennie to my space-George, and he doesn't know it, but i'm about to (warning: Of Mice and Men spoilers) shoot him in the back of his head with a space-revolver.


    Metaphorically.


    I let him know that the GIA (read: me and Kaleb) had found some anomalous assets sitting around the universe that we would like him to contract. He says sure, logs on and contracts it. Sansha Control Tower, Charon, half of a Nyx + BPC, roughly fifteen subcaps. It takes another couple of days for us to finally find a time when we were all on at the same time, but when we did - and when the mark presumably stopped popping pills enough to think a single coherent thought - we finalised the scam.


    It's a bit anti-climactic, really. I spoke to him on messenger and told him to log on and dump all that he had in the corporation hangar. I should note that I had tried to nab around 12bill in ships before this, but he had gotten a bit uppity and I decided it a bit too dangerous to push. The day when he deposits every single one of his BPOs?


    <Blawrf McTaggart> Take a look through your own assets. I hate to be blunt, but anything of worth needs to be declared, so let me know if you find anything.
    <****> Rorqual and Archon in Vehan
    <****> I'll contract to corp if needed
    <****> and ofc the freighter and rhea



    That's right. Those self-same ships he fussed about, he offered to me, like some sickening sacrifice to heathen gods. We then noticed that he had a wallet of 8bill, liquid. How to scam that from him?


    Oh yes! How better than to suggest he buys a Ragnarok BPC and contracts it. I mean, we can get him 20bill ISK profit in weeks!


    Idiot.


    Total haul? I'll include screenshots and a rough list in the spoiler tags below.


    Oh, and my goodbye message to the guy?


    <****> My wife keeps nagging me that there must be a way to make money in the game [rather than plex]. I tell her the cap bpos are investing in the game
    <****> She usually buys it
    <Blawrf McTaggart> Be careful with them, then, yeah?
    <Blawrf McTaggart> Don't give them to someone you don't trust.








    "We made it, Mister Frodo."
    Good work goon.

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    Didn't really want that 80bil from mining anyway.

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    Holy fuck, thats fucking brutal. I dont even trust mates that I have been playing with for years with my stuff, why these mongs are giving their lives works to strangers is completely beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agathor View Post
    Holy fuck, thats fucking brutal. I dont even trust mates that I have been playing with for years with my stuff, why these mongs are giving their lives works to strangers is completely beyond me.
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    inb4 he actually successfully commits suicide

    either that, or his life suddenly improves after being freed of the burden of this terrible game

    probably the former.

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    Shit like this is why I love EVE.

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    am i the only one who seems to think this is a fucked up thing to have done? i know this is the internet and we're meant to be lolxD about this sort of shit, but i've known people who were severe depressive and bipolar, and seen the sort of shit that goes on when theyve tried to cut themselves open in front of me, ie. its not just that you're depressed, it's that you hate yourself so much, you think the world and everyone around you hates you so much and with such malice, that the only semi-decent thing you can do as a person is to kill yourself.

    i dunno, ranting a bit here, but the fact that you went through with this when this guy had already attempted suicide over what you were doing is a bit fucked up

    inb4 LOL CAREBEAR THIS IS EVE GTFO, yeah he shouldn't have trusted you, yeah it was a stupid thing to do, but at the end of the day you've got someone here who's already mentally unstable and you've already pushed to suicide once, and who you've potentially triggered a cuntload of other psych problems, just over some internet space pixels

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    He's not going to commit suicide. Stop being a buzzkilling faggot.

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    maybe he will, maybe he wont. but the fact that he already attempted to* should have been the 'maybe we're going too far' realisation point.

    and even if he doesn't, I wouldnt even wish that sort of mental anguish onto my worst enemy. i mean you said you were a teaching assistant at a school for troubled kids, and you feel no sympathy for someone who's psychologically fucked up enough to attempt suicide already?

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    I, too, would believe some internet gollum that he popped pills to kill himself. Its not like there are attentionwhores on the internet.

    Either way, its unlikely that some spacepixels are what kept him alive.

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    Quite honestly, I don't care. We sent CCP a petition basically saying "yo this dude has threatened to commit suicide" and it's on them, now. I stole his pixels. I've probably not helped his condition but jesus fuck i'm no psychologist.

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    i dont think the best way to get positive attention and good first impressions to a corp is to make yourself look like a depressed wreck. most people just pretend they have tits.

    and yeah, fair enough. it was a good scam. but ive always felt theres a difference between scamming someone so they punch their monitor and quit eve, and scamming someone so they end up depressed and in hospital.

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    Well, with the online game not being the basic problem but only a catalyst, this guy would have ended up in hospital/dead sooner or later anyway. whats true, though, is that in any other community the op would have been gassed by now and his house would have probably been burned down.

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    perhaps. but even so, you're still directly involving itself in it. theres a reason people who kill old people are still charged with murder, even if they're going to die soon anyway (im terrible at making analogies)

    not sure what you mean by being gassed and burned though?

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    Good find, I'm interested to find out how you found this guy in the first place?

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    It still amazes me how you guys find these faggots and how they always gravitate towards goons

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    Niggernigger layin down some morality here.

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    I am always torn when reading about these things. On the one hand, you've got someone literally begging to be kicked in the nuts with a steel-toed boot.

    On the other, you've got someone who gleefully does it.

    Anyway, what are you going to do with your spacebux?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polian View Post
    It still amazes me how you guys find these faggots and how they always gravitate towards goons
    When i'm not in PF-QHK local as Maxus Law, I scam major evebucks. It's honestly just an exercise in patience. I know the idea is given that the EVE playerbase is pants on head retarded and have no idea what they're doing, but I have to say that (at least in personal experience), scams will fall through a dozen times for each time it goes right. It's an amazing way to earn ISK, and whenever I take goon newbees under my wing I teach them to scam, but it needs patience and a distinct streak of sociopathic tendency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnes View Post
    I am always torn when reading about these things. On the one hand, you've got someone literally begging to be kicked in the nuts with a steel-toed boot.

    On the other, you've got someone who gleefully does it.

    Anyway, what are you going to do with your spacebux?
    I don't really know. We have to liquidate everything, and we've gifted some of the assets to people who helped with the scam/facilitated it all (you know who you are and you are awesome bastards.) I'll probably buy another EVEdude.

    I lost three cheetahs on my way to pf-qhk the other day. I have an expensive covert ops habit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niggernigger View Post
    not sure what you mean by being gassed and burned though?
    He means no other online gaming community would've congratulated the OP about having scammed someone out of his eve life's work, let alone a dude who was on the verge of suicide. Instead, they would have gotten extremely buttmad, demanded that he be nuked from orbit by the game masters, and as they do in china, run a human flesh search on the guy to push his shit in rl.

    Quote Originally Posted by ente
    Well, with the online game not being the basic problem but only a catalyst, this guy would have ended up in hospital/dead sooner or later anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister McTag View Post
    When i'm not in PF-QHK local as Maxus Law
    Why would you hang out in that shitty system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dental Floss View Post
    Why would you hang out in that shitty system?
    Scout. Staging systems are a fetish for me.

    Edit: Although it might be callous, I don't really care about this dude's wellbeing. We genuinely thought he was playing for time & attention by crying about being in hospital after taking an overdose.

    Then we put a ton of effort into the scam, and by the time we actually thought he MIGHT be telling the truth, we'd simply put too much time and invested too much to walk away. I'm sorry that the guy is going through a harsh time, but i'm not sorry for scamming him and I doubt I ever will be.

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    I feel bad about my scams, but then I inevitably get 3 day banned for an ~account hacking~ petition. So that clears me of any guilt I felt.

    I think CCP should give me the benefit of the doubt now, instead of just banning me on the spot.

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    Just to followup on what Mr. McTag said, and to feed some trolls.


    When I first talked to the guy and he told me about his problems, I figured, ok, maybe EVE is his outlet. And I since was hesitant to scam a possibly suicidal person, there are a couple good real life friends and goon friends that I talked about it with first. Everyone pretty much said "let darwin work his magic" or he's a liar & attention whore. So I guess with all the 'darwin' answers it means I have a lot of friends who are sociopaths. But I digress.


    I ended up talking to this guy for nearly 3 weeks on and off. But there is a lot in the logs that isn't in the post because its irrelevant to the scam and would bore you to suicide yourselves.. But I basically came to the conclusion that he's a pathological liar. There were so many inconsistencies when I'd talk to him. Some days he'd mention stuff about his fiancé, other days he'd mention stuff about his wife. It was pretty specific stuff too, so unless he's a two timing bastard or completely delusional, I'm pretty sure he has neither. He'd mention he was in the hospital on his mobile and there was no way to login, but then I'd see him online and logged in not 30 minutes later. Also, what kind of family or institution would allow someone so unstable day visits home (he claims his wife/fiancé/father would take him home some days), let alone to play the computer game that has caused the person's most recent bout of depression because their CEO was mean to them. Theres a lot more, and its quite sad. He's a big enough liar that he may be delusional, but he just wants some attention.


    This guy was an attention whore through and through. I talked with one of his alliance leaders last night, who basically confirmed that not only did he continuously buy GTCs to fund his operation (which also helps confirm my suspicion that he'd never actually built a super cap), but he'd pull this kind of attention whore shit on his CEO and alliance leaders.


    tl;dr: our mark is most likely an attention whore who isn't actually suicidal.

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    Well if he was suicidal and in the hospital, it is best you did it while he was in the hospital than wait for him to get home where he wouldn't get the proper care and treatment.
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    eh, fair enough. ive just had friends kill themselves due to psych problems (and these were people who were surrounded by people trying to support them), so it rustled my jimmies when it came across as someone manipulating a depressed person.

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    Anybody who would commit suicide over a video game (especially a shitty game like Eve) deserves to be mocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niggernigger View Post
    eh, fair enough. ive just had friends kill themselves due to psych problems (and these were people who were surrounded by people trying to support them), so it rustled my jimmies when it came across as someone manipulating a depressed person.
    Gotta troll you a bit and say that you chose a surprising username for someone who cares so much about morality in internet spaceships. I know people who suffer from diagnosed depression and other mental issues and this thread made me cringe at first. But I also know people that claim they have mind problems for the attention it brings. kaleb justifies his and OP's decision in post 36 as okay because the dude is just whoring attention through claimed problems.

    I can't say whether or not this is ::wrong:: or ::right:: but I do know this is very thin ice. The last thing CCP and EVE needs is a huge media blow up about some 24 y/o killing himself and leaving a huge suicide video/note whatever detailing how CCP/EVE fulfilled his life and some players in "OMGSHITBADAWFULSA.COMGOONSWARM" caused him to end it. Or maybe we here on Kugu think that causing this is a good thing? Discuss.

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    guys its ok if he commits suicide because his alliance leader says he's a douche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiden View Post
    I can't say whether or not this is ::wrong:: or ::right:: but I do know this is very thin ice. The last thing CCP and EVE needs is a huge media blow up about some 24 y/o killing himself and leaving a huge suicide video/note whatever detailing how CCP/EVE fulfilled his life and some players in "OMGSHITBADAWFULSA.COMGOONSWARM" caused him to end it. Or maybe we here on Kugu think that causing this is a good thing? Discuss.
    I personally think that in EVE's case, bad publicity (in the sense of FUCKGOONS SCAMS BAD PEOPLE) is better than cuddly anime MMO publicity. The reason I started playing this game was because of the scams and the backstabbing and the metagame itself - from GHSC's e-famous scam onward.

    I didn't start playing it because I knew I could walk around a 6x12 cabin with a graphically rendered avatar, or because i'd heard how immersive the storyline and just how interesting the PVE or PVP was.

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    That may be true, but bad publicity in terms of "victim of internet spaceship video game commits suicide, why did no one act on the warning signs" will probably not help us in the long run.
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    Perhaps i'll not only kill this guy, but i'll also kill EVE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaleb rysode View Post
    I ended up talking to this guy for nearly 3 weeks on and off. But there is a lot in the logs that isn't in the post because its irrelevant to the scam and would bore you to suicide yourselves.. But I basically came to the conclusion that he's a pathological liar.
    This is why I am uninterested in scamming. You spent 3 weeks pretending to be the friend of a person you would normally never go within 50 feet of, let alone be associated with. And you had to do this many times to find the right mark. So it sounds like you're spending your happy funtime looking for people who have the right combination of fragile and stupid needed to give you their monopoly money.

    Well, if that's what you want to do to keep you in cheetahs, good luck to you. It's just not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister McTag View Post
    Perhaps i'll not only kill this guy, but i'll also kill EVE.
    I'm reasonably sure that qualifies as "winning the game", so unironic good luck to you in accomplishing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    That may be true, but bad publicity in terms of "victim of internet spaceship video game commits suicide, why did no one act on the warning signs" will probably not help us in the long run.
    A fine tl;dr of what I think of this type of scam. I see that few agree with me and most would cheer at not only this but the potential that it could actually cause CCP to failcascade. Ironically, the fact that such a thing is even remotely possible keeps me interested despite it all. So lets keep the discus- er shitposting going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister McTag View Post
    Perhaps i'll not only kill this guy, but i'll also kill EVE.
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    Props for a well-done scam; you executed everything more or less perfectly and played this guy like a piano. That said the thought of it makes me more than a little uncomfortable and I don't know if I could do that kind of thing myself. Don't get me wrong I'm fine with scamming, but this veers into the territory of impinging on RL. There's a 90% chance that this guy was just attention-whoring but there's always that 10% chance that I'd be sending some mentally unstable guy to the hospital or something. So: well done and I don't blame you for doing it but I dunno if I could. I'm a big 'ol softie, though.
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    By the way Tag it was v. responsible of you to report the dude to CCP after he talked about suicide, you may be a scammer but you have a heart of gold

    Have you got follow up logs or anything?

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