I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I must confess that this made me grin.Originally Posted by The Mittani
I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I must confess that this made me grin.
It made me picture the NC as Janos Slynt, and Tyrion as the wicked manipulations of the Goons.
Why is every thread turning into a GoT-Discussion sooner or later? Nerds.
Goons are Lannisters?
Every rifter counts friend
not empty quoting
pubbie.
so many goon pubbies these days. what happened to all the chill goons
Thank goodness we have guardians of the goodposting flame of goondom like you to sternly remind us of how we have fallen from the ways of those who went before.pubbie.
so many goon pubbies these days. what happened to all the chill goons
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Goons are Lannisters?
We are the physically repulsive variety
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph.../LoveableRogue
He got it wrong anyway. Goons are definitely more like house Greyjoy.Goons are Lannisters?
hey its jimmy. the guy who had a nerdgasm over beating mrrive.
hi5hi5hi5
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don't try to dodge my bans, blackhorizon~
or bdcipandemiclegion or whoever you are
[twitter]themittani[/twitter]
I don't even have a clue.
I think it was a jimmy and timmy reference but I'm reaching there.
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You're grasping at straws, guys!
Posting on forums about how everyone should REALLY REALLY listen to a strung out woman on meth about strategy does not a sky marshall make.
Sexism, ad hominem and being a giant douchebag all in one post.
someone's got mommy issues
THE GREATEST POSTER
Everyone knows sobriety is a key ingredient to success in EVE Online.
Don't forget celibacy. A key ingredient for sure.
Ceterum censeo -A- esse delendam
[QUOTE=Don Peyote;435913]velonad is p good h ats
i mnea i love you more an yevrerying but velongad is the hnowreigan of my heart always
happy nwe yar[/QUOTE]
Counterpoint: SUAS. Though sometimes he took it a bit too far.
Let's poll Trzzbk and see if this is true
Oh come on mittens.CEO UPDATE: What The Fuck, Seriously?
The ugly drama of the War in the North - like a bad reality TV series focusing on meth-addled incompetents in the American South, a fascinating yet cringeworthy spectacle that gives the distinct sense that you have become soiled by even watching it - has entered another shambolic phase, a phase already (in its bare first few days, no less) marked by gross political missteps, strategic indecision, and rampant paste-eating idiocy. Judging by our four mothership losses yesterday, some of that paste went down our gullets.
TEST dons the Burger King Crown, declares themselves Lords of All They Survey
When I wrote my most recent column detailing the structural problems in the Northern Coalition, I didn’t anticipate having it essentially paraphrased and re-read by the new leader of TEST as an excuse to reset the North, especially not while we’re locked in a desperate defense of Tribute. Nor did I expect that paraphrasing to take place amidst a seven-minute diatribe of a speech which glossed over with an almost comically self-righteous blindness the fact that it was the Northern Coaliton’s own supercapitals who took TEST’s stations for them in Fountain.
A few days ago, Montolio approached me with several plans, none of which were ideal. In one, TEST would abandon all its sov, becoming ‘nomads’ and probably attacking the NC. As TEST has never had to be nomadic, they have romanticized the idea of it, unaware of how shitty schlepping your crap around the galaxy is in reality. Another plan was to simply reset the NC and pull out of the North. That seemed to be the least foolish of options, but I was surprised by the choice to give a speech and spew forth the insults it contained rather than doing a quiet 'soft reset' through normal diplomatic channels. That gained nothing for anyone; should the NC still exist in a few weeks, odds are good that they will hunger for vengeance, or an easier target to displace their rage upon than the DRF.
The NC Situation
The only thing that is truly maintaining the peace in Tribute is the fact that, perhaps fearing a future Tech nerf, no one has (yet) stepped up to drop SBUs and suffer through the atrocities of the Dominion sov system to take the damn region from Morsus Mihi. That’s a good thing for us, since there’s no obvious way that we - or anyone - can defeat a blob of 80 supercarriers backed by 30 Titans in US Prime. Of course, as I write this, a Morsus logistics person boofed a perfectly easy timer for a critical tower in UMI, Tribute's 'second capital', so maybe the whole thing is about to cave in like a rotten melon.
I have no great love for the random guest fodder in the NC, the OWNs or the RAGEs or the high councils, low councils, democratic roleplayers or merchant empires. Once all of this nonsense is over, we are likely to be revising our standings accordingly, as we have expended a tremendous amount of effort at every level to prop up a decrepit structure that is surprisingly full of people who hate goons for being goons - perhaps because many of the modern NC leaders have BoB employment histories (Nunu Dagobah, LordDragonMPS, our dear old Yaay). Many of these entities have accreted around our friends in Morsus and Razor like barnacles on the hull of a poorly-maintained ship.
Yet say what you will about the NC as a whole, we (like Lannisters) will not forget our debts to Razor or Morsus Mihi - and we owe them for years of blood and war from Tenerifis through to Delve and back again. There will be no ‘fuck the North’ speech from me. We may have accidentally reset OWN, though. Oops!
Right now the hostile forces burning Tribute have a tremendous amount of momentum. Their pilots know that the NC (or us, yesterday!) will serve up between 1-4 supercapital killmails a day and generally flail about like spastics. The only dangerous force they've been facing of late has been our Alphafleets or NC Abaddon fleets led by Boat, and these they either avoid or drop a massive supercap blob on. Because of all the blueballs and foolishness, we're not going to be throwing our fleets into lost causes any longer. Well-timed towers we can send forces for, but we won't be cleaning up after a bedshitting such as the UMI nonsense that just occurred.
The White Noise Conspiracy That Wasn’t
Where are the angry RMTing Russians at the gates of Tribute? When the assault on Morsus began, we feared that WN was intending to take over Tribute, abandon their space in the South, and set up some kind of game-breaking RMT empire - the kind which ruined Lineage 2, for example. Yet this has not come to pass. As Awagon has burned and purged their way north through White Noise territory, WN has repeatedly sent their supercapital blob home to try to defend their old territory, behavior hardly consistent with our tidy and adorably apocalyptic conspiracy theory.
The fact is, I’m not entirely sure what the hell is going on any more. So many variables have opened up in the past two weeks - amidst a nasty bout of bronchitis which I’ve had to medicate heavily with codeine cough syrup and that Whole Pesky Iceland Trip - that it's hard to tell who's doing what. Perhaps White Noise has realized (as we have) that Tech will be nerfed, probably sooner rather than later. Perhaps there never was a ~RMT Conspiracy~ though given their financial patterns I'm still of the belief that White Noise is connected heavily as a supplier to a shop. Perhaps it just doesn't make business sense to abandon their old territory if a tech nerf is going to rape the North.
Obligatory CSM Disclaimer: Our finance team has been planning for a tech nerf for months now, and we expect that the bonanza can't last more than 6 months. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything I may or may not have learned/said at the CSM Summit, and pretty much every entity which holds tech is looking at how our collective income got raped by the anom nerf and is laying in plans (all ugly) for what happens when tech can't pay our sov bills for us.
What Are You Up To, Anyway?
At a personal level, I've been swamped by space chaos and plague. These times of crisis are very exciting at a metagame level, but I've been frustrated and left angry by some of the foolishness by people On Our Side of late. We're spearheading a couple of interesting projects, such as 'Jabberlon 5', a new jabber server which every magnate in the game can participate in regardless of standings. Meanwhile, TEST might have just cut our bloc in half and the NC can't time for US Prime to literally save their lives.
On a lot of levels, it's a lot easier to be invaded yourself and work towards the defense of your own region than it is to try to help your allies, being unable to use any of the resources at your disposal or your excellent people. We have a crack logistics team, we have the largest collection of bloc-level FCs in the game, we have a tight fleet doctrine, we have the best Sky Marshal in EVE, and our hands are fucking tied. That makes me /mad/, a lot of days. I feel like we are unable to pay off our ancient debts, and not for a lack of will on our part.
Ugh. This game.
GS is well lead and had one hell of a comeback over the last year but
Generally not a problem for Goons.
[05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks
I've a long-standing relationship with Palmela Handerson, I'll have you know. We're getting married next month.
Generally not a problem for Eve players.
Mittens: can you describe your true feelings on the resetting of the NC by TEST?
A feeling not dissimilar to a large genital rash.
Today Blackops got bored of killing Phreeze's pets IRC (Have to admit, quality troll there Phreeze) so, decided to start robbing them instead.
So far a Raven ,Malediction and a Cruor have all jumped out of their ships rather than die.
[08:38:38] Midshipman > Your ship is being moved to a hidden location. If the ransom is paid, it will be retunred to you.<br>
[08:38:44] Kiemi > if your going to tell someone to pay you 500 m to live you should at least wait for them to pay you first.
We just left our stuff in a safe and flew our liberated space vessels to freedom then came back to resume the fight against IRC, who bathing in the light of being PL's best friends (IRC's words not mine) spent 7 jumps in Cynabals trying to lock pods.
http://i.imgur.com/g54wB.jpg
"I wonder if these guys will have the balls to admit to the alliance they've been robbed, or if they'll just keep quiet, like rape victims."
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
Confirming DBRB is the largest FC in the game.
Dbrb makes up for EVE not having a realistic physics engine.
Well, if there is to be some huge balance changes, seems like there is a huge conflict of interest for mittens to know the change before others get to know it. (assuming he has no impartial input on what changes are to be made).
all this "finance team has been working on a tech nerf for 6 months now" info that's coming out now seems to say that mittens has a source of info that allows for further strategic predictions.
:audit:
bad analogy time, mittens resembles Liu Bei, with the clear understanding of seizing the moral flag of :space honor:, if only to make goons feel good about themselves. but RUS is Cao Cao with their ruthlessness. At the end, people who are motivated by honor and fairness are just not as good at fighting as the rampaging horde.
mittens and vile rat went into the CSM with a tech nerf being one of their priorities.
Lies. Nobody does anything for the betterment of the game, especially not when they can abuse the fuck out of it.
this public interested 'good for the game' idea and cynical view of bias is just an unavoidable problem when we have a CSM situation, where players gets to choose their game, so to speak. Does the good of the game only extend to certain types of players. Viewing the game as a growing community, does this good extend to potential players, or even unsubbed players who might come back?
At some point, you have to explicate what you really are looking for. If what you are looking for in the game runs contrary to the expectations of other types of players (:elitepvp, you can't simply bash their position with this "good of the game" declaration, as though these other guys are being harmful to the game by playing it their own way.
I don't know if CCP already took this necessary conflict of interest into account when they designed the CSM system. If they had, then internally they would hedge against this organization and not allow it to completely dictate the game. However, when this hedge/correction happens, when the "will of the people" is defeated, there should not be a misunderstanding of betrayal by ccp.
whatever, back to werk werk.
Look, if you don't see the writing on the wall for technetium and supercaps, then you're just gullible.
If you think that :CCP: jumps when the CSM tells them something, there are literally no words adequate to describe your naivety.this public interested 'good for the game' idea and cynical view of bias is just an unavoidable problem when we have a CSM situation, where players gets to choose their game, so to speak. Does the good of the game only extend to certain types of players. Viewing the game as a growing community, does this good extend to potential players, or even unsubbed players who might come back?
At some point, you have to explicate what you really are looking for. If what you are looking for in the game runs contrary to the expectations of other types of players (:elitepvp
I don't know if CCP already took this necessary conflict of interest into account when they designed the CSM system. If they had, then internally they would hedge against this organization and not allow it to completely dictate the game. However, when this hedge/correction happens, when the "will of the people" is defeated, there should not be a misunderstanding of betrayal by ccp.
whatever, back to werk werk.
Now, even in your mescaline induced fever dream world where mittens goes to Iceland and dictates game changes to CCP, he has been 100% consistent in Tech message from before they buffed it in the first place. (Both here and on his TTH blog.) In this imaginary world, he was actually elected to accomplish this very thing.
In either situation, it beggars the mind to wonder what the fuck you think the conflict of interest is.
this public interested 'good for the game' idea and cynical view of bias is just an unavoidable problem when we have a CSM situation, where players gets to choose their game, so to speak. Does the good of the game only extend to certain types of players. Viewing the game as a growing community, does this good extend to potential players, or even unsubbed players who might come back?
At some point, you have to explicate what you really are looking for. If what you are looking for in the game runs contrary to the expectations of other types of players (:elitepvp
I don't know if CCP already took this necessary conflict of interest into account when they designed the CSM system. If they had, then internally they would hedge against this organization and not allow it to completely dictate the game. However, when this hedge/correction happens, when the "will of the people" is defeated, there should not be a misunderstanding of betrayal by ccp.
whatever, back to werk werk.
Hey Goon bros, anyone up for a good old -rep zor chain on Vonq rep page?
I think you'll find this video has strong parallels with the current situation in [s]penzance[/s] the north.
Man Mr. Vee has some sweet moves.
That depends,
Do you have stairs in your house?
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
oh ok link one of his posts
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Oh irony, how you greet me today.
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http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...410#post241410
http://www.kugutsumen.com/member.php...ion#reputation
You used a "O" and not a "0" in the z0r chain.
And pinoyzzz used a capital Z.You used a "O" and not a "0" in the z0r chain.
Just FYI, the people you're talking to spend a large amount of time discussing the politics and economy of an internet spaceships game.
I guess what I'm saying is it's a bit like pointing to the guy who came second at the special olympics and calling him a cripple.
Or a goon fat. Or neckbeardy.
I am not allowed in the house, I am just a puppy that Mittani found in the south along time ago.
Now, I am just a crazy old dog that hangs around in their garden and barks at
strangers and howls at the moon. One of the new Goons once asked the Mittani
what was the deal with that flea bitten bastard that bites everybody that comes
close to him. Was it not time to put him down?
The Mittani just shrugged and said "effort".
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