MAX3: Nothing Personal (Tribute, Pure Blind, Venal)

**Murr** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Grath

I took a short poll from my memory trying to remember the list of reasons I've heard rambled off over time, if anybody else remembers anything that I've forgotten I'll add it in.

1)After the first job, the NC suddenly became to fucking upity to hire mercs like us

2) Fuck you very much for helping out in fountain

3) Why don't you get butthurt more about us not wanting to keep you blue if it wasn't an emergency then abandon us when we needed it

4) You owe us some titans

5) You charge too much for the titans you sell us

6) You deserve it for Yaay alone.

7) Shit talk more cocksuckers

8) You either blue ball the fuck out of your opponent, or blob them to death, you've never gone into a fight to have fun, losing ships in EVE is a terrible thing to your coalition, thus making your coalition bad for the game.

9) You NEVER do ANYTHING AT ALL unless forced.

Ok most points there can be argued. But :

2) Fuck you very much for helping out in fountain

Come on, after literally raping everyone in PB before fountain?

e : and yes this is troll on troll arguing

**Russian God** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

I don't get this sentiment that gets repeated here ad nauseum. Unless Russians magically develop a US TZ, Tribute is perfectly safe.

We just took 2 regions? and we have all TZ covered if you haven't noticed, just ask all the former residents.

**Propagandas** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Murr

Ok most points there can be argued. But :

2) Fuck you very much for helping out in fountain

Come on, after literally raping everyone in PB before fountain?

e : and yes this is troll on troll arguing

We only raped MH and what i think was WI.
MM and RAZOR was on curse deployment at the start.
Then they, much like goons later, broke the bro pact (((((

**Grath** · 2011-05-27

Somebody requested I dig this up, so I did.

Quote Originally Posted by Grath Telkin
I would like to change my an?w?r to:

Assemble and lead the coalition that tears the guts out of the North and runs these faggots up a tree with a multi-pronged attack that generates so many tears and crying that the heavens themselves look down and send little pity angels to save the drowning members of the NC.

It would be hard‚ and take coordination with multiple other allie? attacking multipl? places daily‚ acro?s a broad sp?ctrum of northern targets to keep the cocksuckers reeling constantly‚ but I think it both could be done, and would generate more porn than our forum? could hold, lit?rally a dam of porn that has burst.

We did it to Molle back in the day‚ if the right tool? lin? up‚ we could do it to Vuk.

Inb4 Jogyn ?ays som?thing cowardly.

EDIT: And theres nothing saying the porn wouldn't be internally generated.

From this thread in our leaked forums: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...ext-2011-02-06

Hubris likes to call me the Prophet.

Also

Originally Posted by Weaselior

at least this knocks penif off his throne as worst strategic planner in pl, good job grath

Who's suckin dick now faggot.

**Stronke** · 2011-05-27

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn NC burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn

**Comrade Comrade** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Dental Floss

That lorddragon guy seems to be a sperging asshole that talks a big game and likes to lay blame at others' feet while forgetting that it was his own 4100 man alliance that couldn't pull more than 40 people, and that's generously assuming all 40 of those were MM.

It's like him and Nunu are twins.

**Mizuchi** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Grath

Somebody requested I dig this up, so I did.

From this thread in our leaked forums: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...ext-2011-02-06

Hubris likes to call me the Prophet.

Also

Who's suckin dick now faggot.

wasnt that post in the mirror? i remember reading it i think

**fat libertarian [banned]** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

I don't get this sentiment that gets repeated here ad nauseum. Unless Russians magically develop a US TZ, Tribute is perfectly safe.

Agreed. There's only so long you can keep grinding stations before you get bored.

**Don Peyote** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Mizuchi

wasnt that post in the mirror? i remember reading it i think

Originally Posted by Grath

Somebody requested I dig this up, so I did.

From this thread in our leaked forums: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...ext-2011-02-06

Hubris likes to call me the Prophet.

Also

Who's suckin dick now faggot.

**Grath** · 2011-05-27

Beaten to the punch

**Praesus Lecti** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

I don't get this sentiment that gets repeated here ad nauseum. Unless Russians magically develop a US TZ, Tribute is perfectly safe.

Your complete reliance (and it is an inarguable complete and total reliance) on Goons to save your bacon in USTZ isn't as perfect as you believe.

**busyturtle** · 2011-05-27

http://forum.eve-ru.com/index.php?sh...&#entry1301466

tearing each other appart as the mitani says...i wonder about all those other convos we miss out

**Don Peyote** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Praesus Lecti

Your complete reliance (and it is inarguable complete and total reliance) on Goons to save your bacon in USTZ isn't as perfect as you believe.

Someone doesn't know that penif is in PL...

**fat libertarian [banned]** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Praesus Lecti

Your complete reliance (and it is inarguable complete and total reliance) on Goons to save your bacon in USTZ isn't as perfect as you believe.

Every coalition of ~elite pvp~ invasions of the NC reach peak smug before inevitable collapse. We will provail. Cheers

**penifSMASH** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Russian God

We just took 2 regions? and we have all TZ covered if you haven't noticed, just ask all the former residents.

It was enough (with a lot of alarm clocking) to take two regions against fleets of 400, but there's no way Russians will manage that against 800 for four straight timers.

**HeliconOne** · 2011-05-27

okay so step one of the NC pulling their shit together would be to to

lorddragon right fucking now.

Fuck me, what a faggot

e: need a

emoticon where

is replaced by

**penifSMASH** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Praesus Lecti

Your complete reliance (and it is an inarguable complete and total reliance) on Goons to save your bacon in USTZ isn't as perfect as you believe.

They'll keep showing up in strong numbers as long as even a husk of an NC alliance resides in Tribute.

**fat libertarian [banned]** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by HeliconOne

okay so step one of the NC pulling their shit together would be to to

lorddragon right fucking now.

Fuck me, what a faggot

e: need a

emoticon where

is replaced by

same, i also need gbs emoticons to denigrate someone who's willing to step up and lead fleets for the NC in a time of crisis. This is cool and I'm 12

**Russian God** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

It was enough (with a lot of alarm clocking) to take two regions against fleets of 400, but there's no way Russians will manage that against 800 for four straight timers.

We bought a shit ton of Alarm clocks with all that RMT money and at the BBQ passed them out.

**Don Peyote** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Russian God

We bought a shit ton of Alarm clocks with all that RMT money and at the BBQ passed them out.

I sleep through my alarm clock, so I invariably fail to get up for ops

It's amazing that I manage it because it's a noisy fucking thing

**fat libertarian [banned]** · 2011-05-27

I don't think its an exaggeration to say that lorddragonmp5 is the last, best hope for the NC. Anyone remember when he lead IT to victory in fountain? I think he was the FC Vee feared the most at the time

**Don Peyote** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by fat libertarian

I don't think its an exaggeration to say that lorddragonmp5 is the last, best hope for the NC. Anyone he remember when he lead IT to victory in fountain? I think he was the FC Vee feared the most at the time

No, the FC that Vee feared the most was DBRB. And who can blame him?

**poaw** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

I don't get this sentiment that gets repeated here ad nauseum. Unless Russians magically develop a US TZ, Tribute is perfectly safe.

WTH, did PL retire or what?

**fat libertarian [banned]** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by poaw

WTH, did PL retire or what?

PL is a force multiplier, not a force. Read Sun Tzu sometime.

**Don Peyote** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by fat libertarian

PL is a force multiplier, not a force. Read Sun Tzu sometime.

**Arkady Sadik** · 2011-05-27

Well, reading Sun Tzu is ok. But for the love of all good gods do not quote it here. :-(

**MtA** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by fat libertarian

I don't think its an exaggeration to say that lorddragonmp5 is the last, best hope for the NC. Anyone he remember when he lead IT to victory in fountain? I think he was the FC Vee feared the most at the time

Ok, this has to be a troll, I just don't get who're you trying to troll.

fakeedit: Unless you're serious, in which case: L O L

**Mizuchi** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by ImmaSplodeYouFace

stuff

fuck reading the full post heh

**fat libertarian [banned]** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by MtA

Ok, this has to be a troll, I just don't get who're you trying to troll.

fakeedit: Unless you're serious, in which case: L O L

I'm completely serious. lorddragonmp5 is the last remaining NC FC that actually beat PL, when he drove them out of fountain with IT.

**Vilgan** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Russian God

We bought a shit ton of Alarm clocks with all that RMT money and at the BBQ passed them out.

I think you are my favorite poster on these forums. Yay for being able to +rep you again.

(and only russian word I know is nyet)

edit> yes I know my RP is shit, but it's the thought that counts!

**Warband** · 2011-05-27

We (Nulli) ran our first major op today after moving to the north. Our concept was ab shield hac's, namely zealots and ab vagas with some cerbs and curses tossed in. Moved out of our staging system with about 70 in fleet w/ 9 scimis and our gang boosters.

We first went to VFK and chilled for awhile, sending our tacklers to the surrounding systems to look for ratters while we waited for TEST/goons and company to possibly form a fleet for us. We stayed around there for about 15 minutes without anything major occurring, then we get intel that Evoke and NC are playing around 10 or so jumps out. We burn there but get held up by a small WI gang, and when we arrive the fight is already over and we had missed the party. We chilled on station for awhile, ganked a few locals and then got intel that Morsus Mihi and company was forming a shield bc fleet in H-W. Eager for a fight, we waited for them to form for a bit before heading out.

As we moved towards H-W their fleet swelled in numbers going from 50 to over 100 by the time we jumped in and warped to station. We waited a bit for them, shooting a few targets and preparing ourselves for what was sure to be a hard-fought contest. Just before the engagement, one of our scouts reports that a neighboring system has spiked, but before we can get more intel, the hostiles warp their bcs in on station at 70.

Fight begins in earnest, we concentrate on the hostiles undocking from station and manage to stay out of range of the majority of their fleets firepower. Logistics is holding- one of our cerbs takes more than 100,000 damage before dying to the hostile blob. As we're fighting, Goons jump in around 50 more and warp to the station.

The fight now becomes around ~170 versus our 70, and we kite around the edge of the field, focusing on tackle and ships that drift too close to us. We ping off for a better position, but our new position put us too close to the hostiles. At just 20km away, we start to burn away as fast as possible, but the enemies dps and such at close range overpowers our reps and we start to loose HAC's at a much faster pace. Also during this, our tackle was lol dying. We are still killing hostiles, but slower and slower as more of our fleet dies. Eventually we overload and burn out, as the blob and firepower has become too much for us to tank. We degaress and warp to a gate and run.

It was a good fight, we didn't expect the 50 man GS gang as well. I think they were calling separate targets from the MM gang- as our logistics reported split targets. Some of our HAC's tank very well, but some pretty much loldied. It wasn't a dramatic victory, but we managed to come out close to even on the S2N boards efficeny wise. For our first op up here, I think I speak for most of us when I say it was a gf, and there were plenty of "welcome to the north" snickers in fleet chat in response to the blob.

S2N record

**busyturtle** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Warband

We (Nulli) ran our first major op today after moving to the north. Our concept was ab shield hac's, namely zealots and ab vagas with some cerbs and curses tossed in. Moved out of our staging system with about 70 in fleet w/ 9 scimis and our gang boosters.

We first went to VFK and chilled for awhile, sending our tacklers to the surrounding systems to look for ratters while we waited for TEST/goons and company to possibly form a fleet for us. We stayed around there for about 15 minutes without anything major occurring, then we get intel that Evoke and NC are playing around 10 or so jumps out. We burn there but get held up by a small WI gang, and when we arrive the fight is already over and we had missed the party. We chilled on station for awhile, ganked a few locals and then got intel that Morsus Mihi and company was forming a shield bc fleet in H-W. Eager for a fight, we waited for them to form for a bit before heading out.

As we moved towards H-W their fleet swelled in numbers going from 50 to over 100 by the time we jumped in and warped to station. We waited a bit for them, shooting a few targets and preparing ourselves for what was sure to be a hard-fought contest. Just before the engagement, one of our scouts reports that a neighboring system has spiked, but before we can get more intel, the hostiles warp their bcs in on station at 70.

Fight begins in earnest, we concentrate on the hostiles undocking from station and manage to stay out of range of the majority of their fleets firepower. Logistics is holding- one of our cerbs takes more than 100,000 damage before dying to the hostile blob. As we're fighting, Goons jump in around 50 more and warp to the station.

The fight now becomes around ~170 versus our 70, and we kite around the edge of the field, focusing on tackle and ships that drift too close to us. We ping off for a better position, but our new position put us too close to the hostiles. At just 20km away, we start to burn away as fast as possible, but the enemies dps and such at close range overpowers our reps and we start to loose HAC's at a much faster pace. Also during this, our tackle was lol dying. We are still killing hostiles, but slower and slower as more of our fleet dies. Eventually we overload and burn out, as the blob and firepower has become too much for us to tank. We degaress and warp to a gate and run.

It was a good fight, we didn't expect the 50 man GS gang as well. I think they were calling separate targets from the MM gang- as our logistics reported split targets. Some of our HAC's tank very well, but some pretty much loldied. It wasn't a dramatic victory, but we managed to come out close to even on the S2N boards efficeny wise. For our first op up here, I think I speak for most of us when I say it was a gf, and there were plenty of "welcome to the north" snickers in fleet chat in response to the blob.

S2N record

that seems to be an interesting fight

well done!

**HeliconOne** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by fat libertarian

same, i also need gbs emoticons to denigrate someone who's willing to step up and lead fleets for the NC in a time of crisis. This is cool and I'm 12

I'd suggest Lorddragon being the one 'willing to step up and lead fleets' and then doing nothing but piss and moan and sperg all over comms is the reason that those same fleets only get 40 members and then have to disband.

(lol at this white-knighting)

**Arkady Sadik** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Warband

Our concept was ab shield hac's

Shield AB HACs sounds interesting.

namely zealots
[...]
we [...] manage to stay out of range of the majority of their fleets firepower.
[...]
we kite
[...]
our new position put us too close to the hostiles
[...]
we start to burn away as fast as possible

**Grath** · 2011-05-27

Man, NC are angry in H-W, we're "cheating metagaming cowards who only have these stats because we wait till the battle is most in our favor, less thinking and skill required"

And thats like, a light quote.

**Russian God** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Grath

Man, NC are angry in H-W, we're "cheating metagaming cowards who only have these stats because we wait till the battle is most in our favor, less thinking and skill required"

And thats like, a light quote.

Pop another titan that should shut them up for another day..

**Russian God** · 2011-05-27

Just think if you could post pic's in local........

**busyturtle** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Russian God

Pop another titan that should shut them up for another day..

or rage quit

**Mynt** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Grath

Man, NC are angry in H-W, we're "cheating metagaming cowards who only have these stats because we wait till the battle is most in our favor, less thinking and skill required"

And thats like, a light quote.

Joining OPs to save MM, the NC, and their ~stuff~ while cheering for the red side of this conflict to utterly destroy these horrible alliances is placing me in a moral dilemma. Stop it you

**progodlegend** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Arkady Sadik

Shield AB HACs sounds interesting.

I probed, I failed, hit the wrong ship, we ended up right in the middle of them.

We didn't expect to have that many numbers, it was more of a roaming concept, and we ended up getting 70 for a roam, but its the first day, so I guess that should have been expected.

Anyway good fight NC, the goon fleet was particuarly good in moving around the field to try to warp in on us.

**Hexman** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Phreeze

Pretty much take what Shadoo said, and imagine the complete opposite and you'll have an accurate picture.

So predicting the end of the world is still fine?

**President NotSure** · 2011-05-27

BL's video BR of yesterday's fight

(Available in 1080p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDm0YYhbdbc

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1105/BL_26_May_2011.mp4

P.S. I know this is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but at least it's not a shitpost.

**Phey Onat** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Centra

Hey, I remember you:

Sorry but ?m not giving 10bill isk to someone without gu?rantee i get what i pa? f?r.

i joined PL, went to the pos to get my nyx for 10bil.

they want the isk first.

understand my position, why wont they eject from the ship and give it to me? because they dont trust me, i just joined.

well the corp has no loyalty to me, i just joined so if i give up 10bil without any guarantee its easy to just boot me, it might be weird, but this is eve, ive never been scammed,

the only person that could succeed in scamming me is the friends ive flown with for years.

it would be different if i were in pl for a while and i was buying the ship, i would give the isk no problem, but as im new, no one has loyalty tome, and im a nobody.

so i was a member of HABIT for 17minutes

I'd probably pay a few bill to have my subcap alt in PL for 17 mins. Would look good on the corp history tab.

**ThemePending** · 2011-05-27

Where in the north are nulli staging? We're still mad about lack of a fight that one night in fountain but I'd rather not derp us into a 70 man gang

**Arkady Sadik** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by progodlegend

I probed, I failed, hit the wrong ship, we ended up right in the middle of them.

My confusion stems mostly from me thinking that AB HACs are about signature tanking, i.e. getting close to turret ships to increase transversal, and that they aren't very good at "kiting" ... Basically, the BR sounded like an excellent LR HAC fleet, except it starts out as talking about AB HACs and the killboard confirms that.

It's quite possible that I don't understand shield AB HACs, though :-)

**Decimus** · 2011-05-27

You guys give NC to much credit.

NC's super cap turnout has been pathetic for ages and even if they magically get the same number of supers online they had at max 2, it's not even close to matching the current numbers they are up against.

It doesn't matter how many grunts they can get online, unless they are in supers they are screwed.

Best case scenario for the NC:

DRF/PL/ect attacks system X.
NC will get caps & supers online.
DRF/PL/ect gets at least double the amount of supers online.
NC logs off supers & caps then starts whelping subcap fleets.

**poaw** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by fat libertarian

same, i also need gbs emoticons to denigrate someone who's willing to step up and lead fleets for the NC in a time of crisis. This is cool and I'm 12

It's more akin to complaining about a Firefighter spraying gasoline on your burning house. Sure he's a fireman and all, but he's just not helping.

**Brazen** · 2011-05-27

Originally Posted by Decimus

You guys give NC to much credit.

NC's super cap turnout has been pathetic for ages and even if they magically get the same number of supers online they had at max 2, it's not even close to matching the current numbers they are up against.

It doesn't matter how many grunts they can get online, unless they are in supers they are screwed.

Best case scenario for the NC: