The NC is now bombing PL Maelstroms with a mix of scorch and shrapnel bombs. Anyone remember when these guys were p good?![]()
And that was where you fucked up as the NC didn't see it as an attack on MH, they saw it as an attack on a key NC member. While MM and Razor were deployed, MH was one of the northern alliances who turned up to EVERY defense op to protect MM and Razor moons and bridges and every leader in the NC, except Phreez (a Razor FC at the time), remembered that.
Despite Phreez doing everything he could to argue for the rest of the NC not helping MH, every alliance in the NC DID help MH, forming combined fleets with a combined response with the A team FCs (except Phreez) leading the recapture of the moons. Some of the fights were memorable, including Imperian losing more Dreads in one engagement in X-70 (including four of my six dread alts .. one of each race) than had been lost before in any battle in eve. PL may have thought that was all jolly hockey sticks, but NC (except Phreez) were not fucking amused.
When PL was attacked in Fountain half the alliances in the NC cheered on their defeat. Some of us did more than cheer
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edit: Someone asked earlier where MC are now. BDCI are in PL. ETNY are in Goonswarm. Most of the other corps merged into one or the other.
m8 it was the joke.
If you think we didnt know NC would be mad when we went and killed 200 dreads in PURE blind i am calling you the troller
"but NC (except Phreez) were not fucking amused."
As it has ever mattered what anyone in NC but vuk and maybe imperian thinks anyways, it all worked out in the end.
bros will be bros, plebs will be plebs
Mynas is correct.
I was highly amused![]()
something I came across
Originally Posted by yaay
Spend 5 days, 4 hours each spinning in station asking "so whats up" and saying how fucking horrible game eve is and then a fight like this happens and you're like "wtf this is a great game let's do it again!".
Looks like you had a blast, nice write up, too.
Also, I like your term "loldies"
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The 'first job' was "hey, here's some ISK for doing what'd you'd love to do anyway in kicking in IT's backdoor. Stop complainig about not being able to afford cap fuel cos that's nbd. We'll cover that". Immediately after that PL painted themselves as badass mercs and demanded 10x the price. Go figure that we told you to fuck off, and that only the Drone-Bot-Federation can afford you now
We had our own invasion at the time in the north (actually we got invaded first). Still we came and helped you and still you fucked it up, the epitome of which was you being too smug and jumping a supercap fleet into a full Y-2 when we helpfully told you you'd blackscreen2) Fuck you very much for helping out in fountain
We abandoned you when you needed us3) Why don't you get butthurt more about us not wanting to keep you blue if it wasn't an emergency then abandon us when we needed it
4) You owe us some titans
5) You charge too much for the titans you sell us
See 46) You deserve it for Yaay alone.
7) Shit talk more cocksuckersIt's true. NC has never lost a ship. Ever8) You either blue ball the fuck out of your opponent, or blob them to death, you've never gone into a fight to have fun, losing ships in EVE is a terrible thing to your coalition, thus making your coalition bad for the game.
This one just turns me on9) You NEVER do ANYTHING AT ALL unless forced.![]()
Dots: it looks like vile rat is banging on about gsf bringing seven times what the NC do to a MM moon in that chatlog but look at the timestamps: it's a very busy channel over a few minutes. VR just isn't very good at typing.
Dental Floss: well said. Vee is very calm unless durrhurrdurr or some other irritating mumblefucker is mumblefucking, when he will tell them that they are niggers and offend the better halves of all scrubs who use speakers. Laz never gets angry at all in fleets. Tolon was systematically and uncontrollably furious, but you knew it was almost always a deliberate and calculated piece of showmanship aimed at entertaining and herding a goonswarm which at that time had no idea of how to do fleets. Or it was the cocaine talking.
Yaay: he is an idiot who still hates us for killing his alliances. Nice super fit, sunshine.
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Your fits are pretty damn bad. Take a look at the russian corp Soldiers of Thunderstorm (SoT) and their take at shield hacs, and I'm pretty certain that you'd be amazed.
They used vagabonds/gilas/ishtars for DPS and lachs/huginns for tackle with basilisks for rep support iirc.
Here is a couple of their BRs from their killboards:
http://kb.sotzone.ru/?a=kill_related&btl_id=238
http://kb.sotzone.ru/?a=kill_related&btl_id=249
Nice BR tho.
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Vuk paid us 120b for the delve contract.
10x the price of that would be 1200b.
after delve we have had atlas contract, aaa contract, rol contract, venal #1 contract, Molle and now ~the north contract~ so 6 contracts.
1200b x 6 = 7200b
Holy shit we are rich, we can now buy 100 new titans or shamis orzoz is RMTing himself a new house.
Or you are just full of shit
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Quote Originally Posted by yaay
What Mittani said was remotely correct, if you don't really examine the larger picture.
TCF folded and what was once 3 power blocks in the NC turned to two. The traditional 3 blocks could all run their own fleets and there was no need for BFF mixed fleets. Then with only RZR and MM, things started to dwindle. Goons came in, but goons have never really filled that 3rd posistion.
Goons Identity has also changed a lot, and people really don't acknowledge that. Goons no longer go just to fight. They are incredibly cautious and calculating in how they work. You don't see the goons in their old familiar wreckless state. Instead the actually think out their plans and aim to execute them. The problem is, they over think too much. ATM goons look good b/c there's literally no pressure on them. They have 1-2 odd tech moons to defend every other day and can do what they want. NC has 5 - 15 tech moons to defend and time correctly any given day. Goons also have no pressure on their home. NC can't move one system without threat of a hot drop.
So the goons sit back and smug a lot about how bad the NC looks w/o any idea what challenges the NC is under while they sit 20 jumps away in relative safety. This is by design. PL and DRF are intentionally trying to keep goons out of the loop and goons are not committing themselves into the fray. This works tremendously well.
Rydis is convinced it's a straight communication and planning problem on the NC's part. The truth is, under the old flags of BFFness, there was no need to tell goons about random fleets 24 hrs in advance. When delve was attacked, everyone acted on their own and supported each other towards a bigger goal. Right now, you have an NC blob trying to act as one and goons not doing anything unless it's preplanned or until you spend hrs waiting for them. Meanwhile, we get bashed in from 5 sides by people who are doing exactly what was done in delve, act independently and support each other when needed.
Goons say they're "helping a lot." I can count on 1 hand what this really means. I had a drawn out discussion with Rydis the other day about how committed goons are to really helping us. I pointed out the fact that it's a telling sign about goons when they have 0 eyes on any of the reds trying to hit us, 0 cyno pilots in tribute or venal, and every single time we try to get help from them, somehow we end up providing 100% of the cyno's and intel for their fleets. If you think burn out comes only from running your own fleet, try sorting out 2-3 extra fleets.
The IRC thing:
Goons made it very clear that they would not come to Vale/Geminate. Some people ignored their obvious warnings, I didn't. I offered goons up a fun alternative that would help us a bit: Put pressure on IRC's home. Some help was better than no help, and they agreed. In 3 weeks of engaging IRC, I personally dropped more SBU's and fought more fleet battles vs IRC with fun fleets than goons did in their "effort." So again, goons basically sat at home and defended 1-2 tech moons occasionally while we tried to defend vale, venal, tribute, and occasionally rzr had to go defend tenal.
What about Rage/ME:
Mixed fleets vs alliance fleets. Rage alone could field 250 in US TZ. ME can field about 80 in US TZ. Yet when any mixed fleet US TZ op was formed, a full MM/RZR/WI/MH/Fcon + ME/Rage fleet could barely top 250. How is that possible. It's called accountability. It's why I hate mixed fleeting with a passion.
PL coming in:
Before PL came into play, this was a stale mate. PL came in and gave DRF an extra 100-150 a night on US TZ and an additional 40-50 US TZ supers. This broke the balance on US TZ. Now we had 0 time zones where we had numerical advantage of Supers/Capitals w/o goons, and goons already said they would not come to Vale. PL broke the Balance of this fight which is why 2 regions fell so fast after they came up.
PL claim contract. Yet daily PL redefine their own contract terms and why they're really here. If you ever get in a channel with Shadoo, it's like watching a rolling wall of bullshit being typed. He constantly contradicts what he says and acts more smug than any 3 players combined about his role. PL are here to watch the NC break up. If you think it's for a contract, your wrong. PL have become WN pets. Their last 3 contracts have proven as much. They've literally been on contract with WN for about 11 months straight.
The one exception was a brief stint where they hit an undefended Delve to hit the only other group in game they do not like. They did this b/c at that time, they had nothing else to do. They had just lost all their space and were bleeding members daily. So for all of 3 months, they were an exception. Go back 3 more months and you'll find them back in the north still hitting Pure Blind. The old "friendship" hasn't existed for a long time.
NC. and Evoke:
Basically there's nothing else for them to do. There's only one red entity other than the NC for these two in the game, and they aren't big enough to try to take them on. So why not band wagon on the NC.
I dunno what you guys want or expect out of this war at this point. Tribute is not under direct attack unless we form fleets. Tenal is not under direct attack. Venal is b/c it's the easiest area to take w/o cyno jamming. Yesterday, the reds had 42 titans alone. With goons last sunday, we had a total of 23 titans.... On US TZ, I've seen 30 titans as of last week. We might get 17 b/t us and goons.
There's 6 well established alliances ATM taking on 2 with random wild card help from goons and PB. It is what it is. Mittanni blames everything but this fact. He keeps his guys at arms length of the NC rather than fully commit to the situation. WI and MH sit back b/c they can look to goons rather than to MM/RZR and risk less. In the end, that will either bite him in the ass or he'll not get attacked b/c MM/RZR are the stopping grounds.
Last Sunday, MM fielded 50 super caps, 8 titans, and another 80 caps. That was basically half of the entire capital fleet we fielded and about 2/3rds of the supers we fielded in a combined NC fleet. MM is still an incredibly powerful alliance. Take what's happening atm with a grain of salt, b/c stressing about it isn't worth the time.
he mad
edit: you should know better than to just say "he mad" - xutech
edit: ok ok "here my good friends have this excellent post by honourable enemy yaay"
Not sure why you're mentioning all that other crap and multiplying it by ten, but I'll make it simple
- The Delve contract was for ~many billions~ not anywhere close to 120b
- Some botting-whores contracted you a bunch of times for silly amounts that only that approach to EVE can afford
- We considered tossing you a titan 'or maybe two' for staying out of the DRF vs NC war for a bit
- Fintroll asked for 500bil
- We told you where to stick it
- Now you've lost your neutrality cos "not playing your version of mercs" and you're stuck only taking contracts from the DRF, just like MC ended stuck taking contracts only from BoB - despite best efforts to genuinely hire them against BoB (which ultimately ended in them doing if for free to break the deadlock). How long before your payment for a multi-month campaign is 2 dyspro moons in an unstable region like Querious?
If you were smart you'd ensure at least 2 customers to bid against each other
Really, who? (Remember your forums leaked a few months back)
bruce wants to rent a constellation from us
FintrollOh my bad, the customers are beating a path to your door.merc contract
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Sent: 2010.10.04 05:13
To: Noobjuice,
hello,
i contacted you guy? a whil? ago about doing a pos take down
(I know the original post was non-serious Grath, that's why my reply was 75% non-serious but there were some actual points there to counter the confusion you guys seem to have)
TEST resetting the NC in a week starting with stella polaris. INTERESTING.
TEST resetting NC in one week.
Boosh
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
i feel proud to have been a part of this reset
very proud
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And now NC is![]()
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I thought GSF were dumb for going after IRC and calling it 'helping', but it's ok, it was Yaays idea which explains it all.
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To be precise, TEST, BDEAL, GENTS and AIF are all resetting the NC in one week.
BDEAL is also resetting FA. We want better space.
I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.
Well this wasn't surprising.
It's to claim the tech obviously, nothing to do with the rotting shit performance of defending there own space for the last 2 months?
I don't know limits or boundaries, but others do..so I push em till I get what I desire
Can we reset TCF next? We need to fight the zombie alliance presence.
Molle for one, I mean, thats a pretty significant one, he's who hired us to hit PB, not the russians. Yaays "11 month" rant is funny, but non factual. Also there were some smaller contracts that got hit while hitting AAA.
So it went
NC (Delve)
White Noise (Atlas)
(smaller contracts I can't remember the name of in Provi) (Provi)
RA (<--this is the one I'm fuzzy on, since I can't remember which russian paid us, but the contract was more of a pain in the ass to collect on so i know it wasn't the Atlas rus, but it was the AAA purge)
xxDeathxx (Venal)
Molle (Pure Blind)
Free for all in Delve (Property flipping is fun)
Current Contract
I mean fuck, you said it yourself, its in the fucking mirror, its not like its not open source info at this point. Pretty much the only bloc that hasn't hired us is Goons/DC group, though we've gotten inquiries about services from groups in there.
I still think the test thing is a troll.
3 NC techs out in the next 90 minutes.
NC main have 250 hellcats under DBRB.
~DC~ have another 300.
Good fights will be had tonight, and lagg.
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