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    Default MW3 announced, the media war begins



    It looks like COD is going after the Battlefield franchise somewhat.

    If both have scripted singleplayer experiences in modern urban environments, its going to be a battle over who has the best graphics and multiplayer experience; and what features COD culls from its new SP games for MP.
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    nice, I'm only going to buy it for the campaign like every other COD Game I buy. BFBC2 is where it is for mp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeyouseemeseeyou View Post
    nice, I'm only going to buy it for the campaign like every other COD Game I buy. BFBC2 is where it is for mp.
    Joke's on you, as the MW3 campaign is scheduled to slide further down the slippery slope of "who the fuck made up this bullshit" it got started on with 2.

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    I bought Crysis 2
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    Eh I lost hope in MWF after MWF:BO. Granted the single players are somewhat decent, however they have a habit of skipping around way to much storyline wise which makes shit confusing at times. MP is fun for awhile but it becomes boring to the point where you try to find the shittiest guns or weirdest combos to run around and try and kill people with.

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    Black Ops wasn't a Modern Warfare title. It was made by the same off-branders as CoD3 and CoD: WaW. Basically the guys who are tasked with making the crappy games while Infinity Ward was working on an new one that was actually good.

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    Out of CoD and BF, I choose BF 1942.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade Comrade View Post
    Out of CoD and BF, I choose BF 1942.
    I cant hear you, i am too busy TK'ing people for planes at the airfield
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    if this fucks with BF3 im going to be SO MAD

    seriously their release dates are basically the same and EA are known for being giant pussies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    if this fucks with BF3 im going to be SO MAD

    seriously their release dates are basically the same and EA are known for being giant pussies
    And Activision is known for being giant dicks, so I don't think it's looking good :<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    if this fucks with BF3 im going to be SO MAD

    seriously their release dates are basically the same and EA are known for being giant pussies
    Well, this is why i dont think BF3 should have a single player side to it.

    They want to write finis to the BF franchise which is really the only established IP that challenges COD, then they can continue to churn out mountains of crap to people that dont know any better at $60 a time and another $30 of DLC.

    The media war is going to be vicious.
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    all the worlds console kiddies don't just play COD single player then forget about it, they play the multiplayer which is in direct competition with BF3.

    both games could have no single player and both would still sell the same.

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    Or to look at it another way, MW3 SP campaign should be down to no more than an hour by this point



    I'm beginning to think the COD franchise is really a social experiment/market research to see how many times people will buy the same product with superficial changes
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    John Madden.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    I haven't enjoyed a console shooter since Halo 1, and that was mostly because I was in high school dragging ethernet cables and extra TVs to friends' houses to get multiplayer going. So the entire CoD series has never appealed to me.

    I can't wait for BF3, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    John Madden.
    Sports Fans. Sports fans that buy sports games. Similar to 13yr old console kiddies in that its likely neither of them are particularly critical thinkers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    Sports Fans. Sports fans that buy sports games. Similar to 13yr old console kiddies in that its likely neither of them are particularly critical thinkers?
    Need for speed
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    edit: Not that I think fans of either are the sharpest in the shed.
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    Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors/Warriors Orochi
    Mega Man
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors/Warriors Orochi
    Mega Man
    Mega Man is a saint and you leave him well out of this!



    While all the mega man games (mostly) are the same structure, it's the level design, difficullty, and bosses that count. So really it's a bunch of challenge rooms, and that is why it's just fine spewing out the same thing over and over. The real issue that lies with games of that sort is having level design that is overly similar as opposed to structure, design, story, etc...
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    I'm a fan of both Mega Man and Dynasty Warriors, but I have to recognize that usually they're just variations on the same formula.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    I'm a fan of both Mega Man and Dynasty Warriors, but I have to recognize that usually they're just variations on the same formula.
    They are, but it's the same thing with portal 2. It's not the design of the game itself that makes you want to play, or the story or anything like that. It's the the challenge and that's largely due to the excellent level design and all that good stuff, and that is changed every level, and every game is just more of that. So the pertinent bit of that game is changed. Dynasty Warriors not really it's pretty much the same game over and over :P
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    Do you like any games that have nothing to do with Japan or the East?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    Do you like any games that have nothing to do with Japan or the East?
    Are you asking me? If so yes I love tons of them :P.

    Here is the top of my game shelf, adorned by my most favorite of PC games.

    [spoiler=leftside][/spoiler]
    [spoiler=rightside][/spoiler]

    All of those that have claimed a spot there are western games (it's reserved for PC games only though).

    Edit: The longbox PS1 games aren't necessarily my favorites, just a place to put them as they are out of the ordinary.
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    Read Thread-title, expected something about Mechwarrior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pripyat View Post
    Read Thread-title, expected something about Mechwarrior
    The trailer that came out a long time ago for the new mechwarrior was a disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    Do you like any games that have nothing to do with Japan or the East?
    Does Europe count as the East? I play a lot of Paradox Interactive's games. Also a huge fan of Valve, although I'm not a big FPS person.

    Edit: Fucking love X-COM. That game is still amazing.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    Does Europe count as the East? I play a lot of Paradox Interactive's games. Also a huge fan of Valve, although I'm not a big FPS person.

    Edit: Fucking love X-COM. That game is still amazing.
    Europe would count as western. There's a new x-com coming if you haven't seen, it's an FPS though :P
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    I refuse to play 1950s X-Files where the Monster of the Week is a giant blob of sentient ink.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinata View Post
    I refuse to play 1950s X-Files where the Monster of the Week is a giant blob of sentient ink.
    :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by poaw View Post
    Black Ops wasn't a Modern Warfare title. It was made by the same off-branders as CoD3 and CoD: WaW. Basically the guys who are tasked with making the crappy games while Infinity Ward was working on an new one that was actually good.
    good is too strong a word for the modern warfare series. tolerable maybe. for five minutes.

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    After playing both series I gotta say BC2 is the better game. A little more realism, and less retarded kits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade Comrade View Post
    [spoiler=leftside][/spoiler]
    [spoiler=rightside][/spoiler]
    [spoiler=neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee erd]Those are some nice old games you got there comrade, props. I got most of them to but I need to admid only on dics and not with boxes or books[/spoiler]
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    Quote Originally Posted by spam6 View Post
    good is too strong a word for the modern warfare series. tolerable maybe. for five minutes.
    COD4 was both fresh and for what it was a good game with some nasty flaws.

    It also had player run dedicated servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stronke View Post
    [spoiler=neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee erd]Those are some nice old games you got there comrade, props. I got most of them to but I need to admid only on dics and not with boxes or books[/spoiler]
    [spoiler=that was only the beginning]

    edit: the far left is PC games, about 400 or so if i had to ballpark it
    2nd edit: though it's an older picture the shelves are a lot more full nowadays....[/spoiler]

    On a more topic-related note. If I had to wager, I'd say BF3 will do better on the PC then MW3, and while to the publishers and stockholders that means nothing compared to overall sales, to everyone else it means that it's truly the better game (cause no one cares what the new-gen console freaks care about)
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    There wont be a next gen console for another 2 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    There wont be a next gen console for another 2 years
    Well the new nintendo console is to be revealed this e3, I'm sure most would consider it the start of the new console generation, early start though perhaps :P

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    Well the new nintendo consoleis to be revealed this e3, I'm sure most would consider it the start of the new console generation, early start though perhaps :P
    ha ha ha ha. Seriously though, are they going for the same 'Mario game n+1' and 'gimmicky motion controlled crap' market?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    ha ha ha ha. Seriously though, are they going for the same 'Mario game n+1' and 'gimmicky motion controlled crap' market?
    Made em millions, and what's wrong with the standard Nintendo lineup? The motion control was gimmicky yes, but nowhere as bad as "3d" and MS/Sony were quite hellbent on copying them.
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    My dislike of the Wii stems from the accessories foisted on people and the titles they chose for it. Its a much an image issue as anything else, although some games on Wii look a lot worse compared to other platforms. I'm a PC gamer, the last console i owned was an N64 (special Pikachu edition ) so if i cant have a 'normal' gamepad if I'm playing on a console i'm not really interested either.
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    Suck it up COD kiddies, Bobby Kotick has another treat for you

    http://www.geek.com/articles/games/a...ures-20110510/

    Microtransactions and subscription fees it seems. Well, people will get the game they deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    My dislike of the Wii stems from the accessories foisted on people and the titles they chose for it. Its a much an image issue as anything else, although some games on Wii look a lot worse compared to other platforms. I'm a PC gamer, the last console i owned was an N64 (special Pikachu edition ) so if i cant have a 'normal' gamepad if I'm playing on a console i'm not really interested either.
    Hardcore PC gamer myself, and that is a great reason why I play my Wii over the other consoles, anything half decent I wanna play on a console usually gets a PC release, but the Wii stuff is all pretty central. Also what accessories o_0? I've had one since launch and all I've ever needed is a wiimote and nunchuk.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade Comrade View Post
    Hardcore PC gamer myself, and that is a great reason why I play my Wii over the other consoles, anything half decent I wanna play on a console usually gets a PC release, but the Wii stuff is all pretty central. Also what accessories o_0? I've had one since launch and all I've ever needed is a wiimote and nunchuk.....
    My only Wii experiences involve alcohol and a mates console, but there always seems (seemed) to be some new peripheral or controller that appears as if by magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    My only Wii experiences involve alcohol and a mates console, but there always seems (seemed) to be some new peripheral or controller that appears as if by magic.
    Like what? I mean theres stuff like the Wii speak which is useless, the gun thing but not needed at all, the only other thing that you could truly need is the motion +.
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    BF1942 was the best BF. COD 1 (with expansion) was the best COD. You could drive fucking aircraft carriers in 1942, and there were tanks and vehicles in COD UO. Can you say the same with the new games? Ever since then its gone downhill really. I might get BF3, depends if they will allow mods or not. Mods are where its at.

    They should start naming the COD franchise by year, like sports games, since theres a new one every year or less.

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    there is probably not going to be modding on BF3.

    The producer said that as a lot of the development tools are proprietary, to release public mod tools DICE would have to take out public licences on all their non inhouse software at great expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCongo View Post
    BF1942 was the best BF. COD 1 (with expansion) was the best COD. You could drive fucking aircraft carriers in 1942, and there were tanks and vehicles in COD UO. Can you say the same with the new games? Ever since then its gone downhill really. I might get BF3, depends if they will allow mods or not. Mods are where its at.

    They should start naming the COD franchise by year, like sports games, since theres a new one every year or less.
    I was partial to COD 2 iirc.
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    I still play on a Cod1 bolt action rifles only server (russian maps only) Its awesome and its an aussie one too so pings of about 50 are normal.

    I wouldn't waste my money on any more shooters for a long while yet. cod4 will keep me going at lan parties for a while.

    I still play aoe2 regularly though so not sure what my opinion is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    ha ha ha ha. Seriously though, are they going for the same 'Mario game n+1' and 'gimmicky motion controlled crap' market?
    Controllers which have touchscreens on them, along with regular buttons. Like the bottom half of a DS. You can still use Wii controllers for some games, which includes the "classic controller" when you're playing your non-gimmick games.
    ?"eve's a bad mmo, really bad, it's only saving grace is the people playing it, which i guess doesn't say great things about the people playing other MMOs"

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