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what is it with counting allainces these days? som contest to be max retarded?
because test doesn't have shitty allies. amirite?
this is not about ehonor or god knows what other metabullshit people come up with. Invading fountaina and forming a coalition with the wagon is pretty much the only real option the nc has.
Also it would be hilarious to see test badposting and tears over it
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If TEST get's invaded I'm spending my inheritance to buy all of Vak Luk's ISK stockpile and then giving every baddie in TEST a MS. Who's laughing now Delvefags?
A Fountain invasion would be pretty hilarious, but I don't log in much so I don't particularly care either way. I haven't been down in Fountain except to clonejump for skillbooks in like a month.
The only smart move for the NC is to move everyone to Delve and beat up on C0nvicted/Gents. Maybe when they win their first fight in four months they'll regain some sort of swagger, and maybe in six months they'll be strong enough to go back to Tribute if they really wanted to and take it all back (though Delve is way better for the average member).
But that would be very strange to see, because it would involve the NC making a good decision. Let's face it, the NC wouldn't be dead now if they could make good decisions, so I'm skeptical that losing all their shit has changed anything. The bad decision that they'll fall into is splitting up, having MM/RZR moving to Curse to become ~guerrilla warfare specialists~ and then die a slow painful death while accomplishing nothing.
Though the really interesting bit is the fate of FCON, MH, WTF - and the rest of the Western NC Bloc - who are currently being propped up by the ~Goon Dragon~. If MM/RZR can convince them to come along in a holy crusade in Delve, then they can easily conquer Delve then move over to Providence or Fountain, or wherever else they want. But Goons have seduced the Western NC so much, and they have only been pressed on by Ev0ke which means time it for USTZ and leave with a win, that these guys are just going to stay put, lose everything of value, and get farmed until they die out.
The Goons, though, have come out smelling like roses in all this. They've said all the right things to their NC bros, but when push came to shove they committed only superficial assets to save them - and only after they were already totally broken. Don't get me wrong, they NC would still die to the DRF deluge, but they'd have lived at least another three months. And now Goons are dangling ~good fites~ in Pure Blind to distract people away from Dek. A good showing for Vile Rat and co - unless they somehow get guilted into letting MM/RZR chill on the Deklein couch in which case they're totally fucked. Barring that, though, they should be able to hold onto Dek for quite awhile longer.
True, I have raped history, but it has produced some beautiful offspring
[20:16] <@Mr_Rive> wtf
[20:16] <@Mr_Rive> 29 MM and razor stations currently in reinforced
[20:16] <@Mr_Rive> somebody is a pretty efficient grinder
[20:17] <+Phreeze> YEAH AMERICA FUCK YEAH
No clue who you mean by 'us', but i can assure you that quite a few of the evicted alliances are still on talking terms to say the least. Wether or not they actually stay together remains to be seen, but looking at how important coalitions are in nullsec, there are only 3 options if the NC wants to hold on to sov:
1) join an existing coalition while keeping alliances intact: doubt this will happen. Tough to explain why, but let's go with a mixture of 'no-one would want em' and 'NC leadership is too cocky'.
2) disband alliances, after which most of the members will probably end up in some other power bloc: sure a whole bunch of people have left/will leave but just as many others will prefer to stick with the people they know, so i dont see this happening either.
3) stick together and claim some other nullsec: this is a lot more likely IMO. NC is still a larger supercap powerhouse than quite a few other sov holding entities. And before anyone starts making jokes about them not logging on: if the NC has supercap superiority, i'm quite sure they'll start peeking their head out the door again.
Actually there's a 4th option, but since it involves PL missioning in empire and DRF and TrivokeDot killing each other off, i think we can discard that one.
I think this attitude above everything should teach MM and RZR about the folly of the pet system. Renters give as much care about the boss alliance as the boss alliance does about them, and when the boss falters the pets become unreliable.
Even when the pets couldn't possibly hold their space without big brother protecting it for them, this still happens. Every alliance that ever belonged to the NC owes its position to either MM, RZR, or both, but you won't find that mattering now.
The lesson has been taught - the only blues an alliance should have is with another alliance strong enough to be worth it for mutual protection. The two pages long bluelist and the "blue of a blue" crap has been found wanting and that's a good thing.
Here's the current situation with NC entities:
Branch, Tribute and Tenal are under siege, and their inhabitants have either disbanded (UNIT) or moved (Razor, MM)
MM are moving to NPC Delve soon to 'shoot everyone' but I suspect it will be mostly just GENTS/TEST/C0nvicted for making Vuk look like a moron.
Razor will live in 6NJ, Venal, for the next few weeks until they decide what to finally do. They are floating several options, including moving to Delve with MM, Curse or even doing incursions.
One of the options on the table for MM/Razor is to form a new alliance together.
MH have moved back to Fade/Pure Blind, along with the other pure blind alliances. That theatre is mostly about tech moons now, although EC- and other systems were SBU'd by random entities.
Phreeze is leaving, but a wild billy merc has appeared so things will get very interesting soon ~
by "us" i mean everybody not MM/RZR, but i guess more specifically MAGE & co. MM's whole "you guys should move to venal to regroup" caused quite a stir in which a lot of us said no absolutely not. then MM just squashed that totally and apparently wants to do it's own thing. v0v whatevs at least i don't have to deal with them anymore and can finally do our own thing
vuk just gave me a Navy Mega for making that vid
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Pets are pets for a reason: because they cannot hold space on their own by definition. Otherwise why would
they need to keep any restriction and ties to their "parent" alliance if not for protection?
This war did not teach that, neither the Atlas war teach that. Unless you are a retard, you should already know that when you install a pet, it might add to your numbers but you have to protect it at all times, in order for this to work.
What this war taught us is that if you do nothing and lie waiting you will get raped eventually. Oh and it takes a lot of balls to insinuate that NC failed because pets did not fight, especially since rage, bricks, me ... actually fought (failing horribly indeed, but they fought), while NC leadership was playing HON , MM/RAZOR were ratting sanctums in alliance funded scaps, and the dragoon was busy drawing lines in the sand.
But go on sansha , tell us more about pets...
First of all this is the first i hear about MM telling MAGE to go there (no clue if it's true or not, curious where you heard that tho), and secondly i haven't heard a lot of bitching about the location itself either. Having been in N5Y for a couple days now (i'm in ME), i find it a very nice change of pace and an awesome frig roaming ground.
TBH most of the negative reactions ive heard were from people who complained about not knowing how long we would be sticking around - raising the question as to wether spendseeding the market or not and wether to grind guristas rep or not.
Y'know... As stated in this 0.0 Politics post GENTS (and I'm pretty sure AIF) have MM and RZR blue. We joined TEST in the reset of "The NC", but now that GSF has reset "The NC" we're matching blue lists with them. Which includes MM and RZR.
Edit: Either I'm getting trolled or I should login my executor alt. Apparently they just announced in the MM Q&A that they're resetting everyone but RZR (oh and other tidbits, that I'll let someone else post).
maybe it wasn't MM specifically saying to go there, but the impression i got was we were going there to help MM, then it turned into MM backing out of the situation and thus we were 'released' sort of say from n5y. if it wasn't MM saying go to n5y, it seemed very heavily suggested. RAGE has not moved there mostly because i've heard all of the people worth anything would leave if that was our home for any length of time.
but like i said before. it feels like a weight was lifted off my shoulders now that the NC is done. change is good
We just reset UNIT or w/e RZR's pets are called~
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We being WIDOT.
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Great now reset SPLR and start camping their bridges
If you do I'll come up and join in
Vee won the honoure space duel vs. Phreeze. GF GF.
Phreeze this could have been prevented if you would have just dueled me.
Vee is a god amongst men
Was it Geddons vs Geddons?
I would like to thank the Honourable PL combatants for giving me a fight after a week of boring shit <3 <3
Every rifter counts friend
Good luck in Iraq Phreeze... good fight
I'm not what you call a "good" poster
It seems remote rep armaggedons are somewhat outdated.
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On the other hand, AC maels are fucking awesome. Don't forget to set a long skill train Phreeze.
Good luck Phreeze. Keep your head and your ass wired together and close to the ground at all times.
Thanks to Goons for the honoure fight.
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/kill...&system=DKUK-G
Hopefully the Gods will be appeased by this Armageddon class spaceship sacrifice and see fit to keep our Sky Marshall safe on his tour.
Best of luck Phreeze.
I'm dumb and installed fraps 5 minutes before the fight started so have 30 seconds of battleship brawl.
whoa, eve has sound?
Bye, Phreeze. We will 1v1 at the sun when you get back.
godspeed phreeze, don't catch a bullet irl
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