DD Nerf on Sisi arrived

[Scotch]

Making fighters ineffective against BS's is dumb.

Also, if CCP won't buff the Leviathan, I'll buy one and fit it with 4x target painters. I won't be denied.

[Malcanis]

It matters when you probe out some numpty in your cov ops and you can now hold him till the cavalry arrives rather than watch him vanish 30 seconds after you find him (or even agress him and go change ship to come back kill him). In the event of a mass log out probers only need to find and agress each logee, there will be no rush to pop them all in 15 minutes. That might be "hardly matters" to you but to most people playing the game its as important as any supercap changes.

Oh no, logoffski won't be a valid tactic any more, I felt a terrible disturbance in the force as if thousands of russians cried out in anguish and then cried out again every 15 minutes.

[icanhazcheesetoast]

WTS: Nyx

I gotta hand it to my goon friends. They can now collect tears from nubs in macks and bittervets in scaps (including mine) at the same time. Quite a victory.

they may take our lives, but they'll never take our supers !!

[Desert Punk]

Supercap fleets still have some relative safely when things go south if fighting a group such as CFC who have few dictors/hictors and even fewer good ones. CFC should start giving heavy reimbursement on dictors/hictors to bring out good numbers when potentially facing Super fleets, plus some guides on using them certainly wouldn't go a miss. Otherwise Super heavy groups can still throw their fleets around a bit if they know there's few if any dictors about. Competent bubblers in good numbers can be a real headache to Super fleets, with the new log off mechanics maintaining bubbles on a hostile Super fleet is crucial to landing a massive blow to the enemy or at least the threat of doing so.

[HUN73R]

Making fighters ineffective against BS's is dumb.

Also, if CCP won't buff the Leviathan, I'll buy one and fit it with 4x target painters. I won't be denied.

Levi and Hel remain the only supercaps a real man should fly.

I don't know if it's funny or sad, but with all that crying, the only real change is the DD on subcaps rofl. As expected CCP fail event at nerfing shit.

[Elise Randolph]

Winter is coming

[Omeega]

Levi and Hel remain the only supercaps a real man should fly.

I don't know if it's funny or sad, but with all that crying, the only real change is the DD on subcaps rofl. As expected CCP fail event at nerfing shit.

The crying wasn't loud enough!

[MtA]

The crying wasn't loud enough!

Challenge accepted.

[Omeega]

No but seriously, I'm a bit sad we can't shoot POSes with Motherships anymore.
Apart from that... well... yeah.

[Shadoo]

i love shadoo's "This titan's nerf is actually a boost because there will be more titans" theory.

you see, a titan nerf means more titans needed to win means it's really a titan boost.

shit, i guess i was a fan of titan boosts all along and didn't know it. i say we need more supercap boosts like this.

Congratulations, you are once again redefining retarded.

[Omeega]

PsixoZZ (White Noise CEO)

We resetted 69 alliances and corporations
The only blues left are Raiden, XIX, RA
If you need your logistic corporation set blue from WN, please apply to any Pandemic Legion corporation.

[Aeon221]

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of pages of forum threads dedicated to this subject both on the official EVE Online forums, other EVE forums, as well as in blogs and articles.

Dear Kugu,

We stole your ideas, tia,

CCP

Anyway those changes look pretty reasonable. I likes them. They don't brutalize the big ships too badly, and they make logoff faggotry a thing of the past.

The big problem with the superweapons is that they can take out the crucial logistics and command ships of the opposing fleet in the first few minutes of a fleet fight, which severely reduces the capabilities of any remaining sub-capital ships.

That line shocked the fuck out of me. When did CCP stop "winning EVE" like the rest of us?

////"content" ends here, boring shit for manny begins////

@Manny, I'm not gonna bother responding to your last post, because you have got to be kidding me with the stupid. Either you are trolling or you need a brain transplant. Thanks for letting me know that you support changes that have been shredded on this forum many, many times in the past. I thought I was doing you a courtesy by not repeating that by now rote mauling, but apparently you really wanted to get slapped around a bit.

I'll tl;dr the essence of any reply: sov conquest needs to be more granular (lots of tiny events that impact sov, not a small number of big fights) form up windows for sov events need to be reduced to half an hour or less, costs and passive income sources need to go down and the carrying capacity of space needs to go up massively. Moving imbalanced resources around the galaxy does not help, exponential increases don't hurt incumbents or help new entrants and are thus dumb.

Instead of lots more words attempting to drill another skull into your head, here is a plushie version of the infamous alot.

[Kazanir]

To shamis of 0rzoz neutral means neutral.

If Shamis were really running your alliance it would have been VFK Billy Merc Always Gets His for the past 3 months.

[Omeega]

If Shamis were really running your alliance it would have been VFK Billy Merc Always Gets His for the past 3 months.

Fortunately, their current leader can be bought with dirty russian money!

[Aeon221]

Congratulations, you are once again redefining retarded.

Well, could you explain your logic a little bit further? I'm not seeing how a reduction in EHP invariably results in more titans fielded, although I can see why we'd have fewer supercarriers out there. Are you assuming natural population growth into them or something?

Just not seeing the growth mechanism here, even though I read your eveo post. Mind spelling it out for us ignorati?

[Bring Stabity]

Fortunately, their current leader can be bought with dirty russian money!

Is the money dirty because it's russian, or because it was gotten by ill means?

[Manny]

Is the money dirty because it's russian, or because it was gotten by ill means?

Russian currency is vodka and yes Death has bought mittens. Im not a fan of the HP nerf but omg the tears that we will cause this winter will be epic.

[MtA]

I don't care how inscrutable Shadoo's theory is, he will always be ?that special guy who saved me a trip back to VFK.

[MtA]

Is the money dirty because it's russian, or because it was gotten by ill means?

You ask too many questions, comrade.

[Goblin]

The thing that is wrong with EVE today is people like you, who are so god damn afraid of loosing in a video game that it drives you to form coalitions of massive scale, just to try and discourage anyone from actually attacking you.

Hypocrisy overdrive. Money over values I guess vov?

[Lucas Quaan]

a gank Moros will now be doing around 8.9k dps(!).

And cap out as soon as someone looks at you funny. Still, it will be an awesome minute.

[Omeega]

Is the money dirty because it's russian, or because it was gotten by ill means?

Both, that's why we have the best country in the world!

[Propagandas]

NOT MY TITANS DRONES GUYS



lmao winter is coming

[Omeega]

Russian currency is vodka and yes Death has bought mittens. Im not a fan of the HP nerf but omg the tears that we will cause this winter will be epic.

Let them siege our towers with 0m/s 9k dps Moros.
5 minutes is enough for me to jump, doomsday and probably wank over their wrecks!

[Propagandas]

While not everyone agrees that supercarriers are to blame for everything, there were some issues that kept popping up:

• Sub-capitals are useless in fleet fights.

Well atleast you tricked them into one thing x)

[XPistolX]

Well, could you explain your logic a little bit further? I'm not seeing how a reduction in EHP invariably results in more titans fielded, although I can see why we'd have fewer supercarriers out there. Are you assuming natural population growth into them or something?

Just not seeing the growth mechanism here, even though I read your eveo post. Mind spelling it out for us ignorati?

IMO he is right, because entities like PL/Raiden/NC./WN etc that do rely on supers to fight bigger numbers wont dive into a fight with the same number of titans/SC's that they do today as things could go very wrong very fast. The only backup plan against a massive subcap fleet in their face would be having enough titans to kill stuff and enough SCs to tank them. A few supercaps alongside with the enemies wont work aswell, bcause you will still have to face DDs + FBs.

From that perspective, they would just accquire and field moar SC and Titans do deal with this "nerf".

[Bring Stabity]

You ask too many questions, comrade.

truely my greatest weakness outside of pumpkin pie

[Arkady Sadik]

And cap out as soon as someone looks at you funny. Still, it will be an awesome minute.

92.3 cap/s from blasters right now (only blasters, 3x MFS II). With a 25% RoF bonus, that's 123 cap/s. The Moros can run that without any cap rechargers for over 12 minutes. If you fit 4 cap rechargers (leaving room for one sensor booster II), it's cap stable. So no, not quite that bad, really.

[Lucas Quaan]

Not really, but it is if you want any sort of tank and consider what cap you have after jumping in.

[Weaselior]

and that you'd like to be able to jump out someday

[Propagandas]

I just kicked 4 titans from NESW, some1 should recruit them since winter is coming

[Kevin]

They might have overcooked it with the nerf to fighter tracking/sig (how does sig affect hitting??). If a normal carrier can't engage a subcap fleet (or NPC rats) with its fighters then the carriers only role in game becomes the BALLZDEEP Triage carrier. At least now itsboth ballzdeep and a jewboat.

[Malcanis]

Russian currency is vodka and yes Death has bought mittens. Im not a fan of the HP nerf but omg the tears that we will cause this winter will be epic.

Grath why can't you have a positive outlook like manny does?

You could learn something from him

[Elektrea]

Hypocrisy overdrive. Money over values I guess vov?

Hypocrisy my ass. The massive supercaps welps that we attended happened because we took the risk. Two times it didn't work out, numerous other times it has.

[haukim]

PL is happy, we're happy, RA is bawling. Has CCP finally gotten something right?

[Elektrea]

Maelstroms can't kill supers NERF EVERYTHINGGGG.

[Omeega]

and that you'd like to be able to jump out someday

Doomsday activated - hullshot!

[Jita MyLove]

so how many Moros do you need to alpha a hel/nyx, factoring in the changes?

[Aeon221]

so how many Moros do you need to alpha a hel/nyx, factoring in the changes?

Eleven.

One to shoot the guns, and the other ten to drink until the room spins.

[Dots]

I just kicked 4 titans from NESW, some1 should recruit them since winter is coming

Can they fly maelstroms? If not tell them to fuck off they are useless.

[Propagandas]

well i am glad we can all agree on the fact that titans are now balanced with the removal of drones

[Omeega]

Talking about balance.

[Kevin]

Holy shit that is one lucky bastard

[Omeega]

Holy shit that is one lucky bastard

Auto-balancing comes free when you buy a Russian passport!

[Aeon221]

NERF RUSSIANS!!!!

[Some Market Dude]

Adrenaline is one hell of a drug.

[MtA]

Fucking Russians. Chernobyl turned them all into super heroes.

[Kevin]

Back to the nerf. Correct me if i am wrong, but the 'single dic killing a super' argument on eVe-O may have some merit, in a roundabout way. By capturing a lone titan in a bubble, you aggress them, correct? Each time the ship inside a bubble tries to warp, that counts as the bubbler causing aggression (for example, you can't jump through a gate if you bubble someone and they try to warp).

Does this mean that a hic running a perma-bubble can hold a titan until DT if they log off? Even if the HIC isn't shooting? What about mobile warp disruptors? I don't know how their mechanics work with agression.

[Sean Alenko]

Nerf Russians and Gallente.

[Some Market Dude]

Back to the nerf. Correct me if i am wrong, but the 'single dic killing a super' argument on eVe-O may have some merit, in a roundabout way. By capturing a lone titan in a bubble, you aggress them, correct? Each time the ship inside a bubble tries to warp, that counts as the bubbler causing aggression (for example, you can't jump through a gate if you bubble someone and they try to warp).

Does this mean that a hic running a perma-bubble can hold a titan until DT if they log off? Even if the HIC isn't shooting? What about mobile warp disruptors? I don't know how their mechanics work with agression.

A ship cannot warp out of a warp interdiction sphere without either exiting the sphere or destroying it?

WTF, THATS SO BROKEN?!












You're a retard.














Winter is coming.