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    Default TheMittani dot com - Bringing balance to the world of Eve news

    I don't think that I've ever started a new thread in here, but this one seemed like a fair excuse to do so. I just posted this on goonfleet dot com, but you'll probably notice that the writing team, whether from Goonswarm or other alliances, is largely drawn from here in Kugu, and I know that there are others here that I'd love to have writing for us (including at least one Evol member I have in mind).


    Our first goal is to provoke a war between Goonswarm and Cuba

    Hold The Front Page

    If you wake up in the morning and want to find out what happened in Eve while you slept, where do you go? If you are a Goon, you probably go to jabber and ask someone, or check The War Room for an update post. But the former leads to you being trolled by those merry japesters in your squad into believing that we killed DaBigRedBoat’s titan in a punishment beating when he told one “guys, guys…” story too many, while the updates only happen every week or so at best.

    There are a couple of eve news websites, but one, the archaic Tribune, is published fortnightly in some steam-powered 19th century factory while the other is Riverini’s cesspit of barely-literate squawkings and openly propagandistic flatulence poorly masquerading as language. Fact-checking is laughable, and relying on what you read there will get you laughed at when you repeat his paranoid rantings or obvious sock-puppeting.

    If you doubt the combination of arrogance, hostility and inaccuracy that dominates what is fed to gullible readers of Riverini’s site, then look at this link: http://i.imgur.com/nKVBI.png Riverini "gets to name coalitions". Instead of "CFC" he uses "Deklein Coalition" – TCF’s bloc which has been dead for almost two years – and because he is hostile to Test and Pandemic Legion (now members of a different bloc entirely) he lumps them into this fictional entity simply because it suits him to do so. A site which was a bit of a joke under Czechlion has become a dungheap masquerading as news, with impenetrable, sub-literate grammar and bleating, desperate propaganda, like Der Sturmer written by drunken gibbons.

    Other news sources exist in the form of forums, ranging from the enjoyably coruscating Kugutsumen to the barely tolerable official forums, but Eve lacks a broad-based source of news and insight. We think that it is time to fix that.

    TheMittani dot com

    I know what you are thinking: this time he has gone too far. Has our own Ozymandias erected an entire site dedicated to the worship and adoration of the Dear Leader? Will he arrange vast, coordinated dancing displays in front of the Peoples’ Palace complete with World of Tanks parades and rifter flypasts?

    In fact, I chose the name TheMittani.com while Mittens wanted the new site to be called some dreary and worthy sobriquet: "Eve News Network" or something wearily quotidian like that. I’ve literally forgotten. The fact is that "The Mittani" is a brand all of its own these days, and I wanted to make use of it: it’s provocative, it’s well-known, it’s distinctive and most important of all it was available as a dot com domain at a reasonable price…

    If we’ve learned one thing from the life and works of Noam Chomsky it is that there is still good money to be made by churning out articles with the old Random Postmodern Essay Generator, slapping your name on them and sticking in a bit about how all Americans are bastards at the top. But if we have learned anything else from his work, it is that it is impossible to entirely divorce a news source from the biases of its proprietors. We realise this, and I have already been prevented from running a scathing expose on Mittens' use of chin-wigs during photo shoots for the CSM campaign. But this isn’t about controlling the news cycle or disseminating propaganda. Nor is it just about sticking it to Riverini, although that is a fun by-product.

    Our goal is to turn TheMittani.com into somewhere that everyone wants to come to read up-to-date news and insightful articles on Eve Online (and a few of the games that Eve Online players tend to enjoy, like World of Tanks, MWO, League of Legends and the like). We won’t do that by churning out attack pieces on everyone we happen to be at war with. So we already have people on-board from other alliances like The Initiative (Malcanis) and Pandemic Legion (Grath), as well as the mysterious epic poet James315 (from who knows where?), and we hope to draw upon sources across all of Eve as people learn that we’re interested in providing news and insight, not just propaganda.

    On that note, Kugutsumen is essentially a writing community, with representatives of all sides of Eve participating. So if you have an idea for an article or even a series of articles on Eve, Dust 514 or related games then please hit me up via forums PM and we can discuss it. It may be that you just want a large audience: we hope that TheMittani.com will be able to provide that. But regular contributors will be showered with plexes, ISK, spaceships and the like.
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    Goonoob propoganda factory.
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    I think Razor has a better site for this kind of news: http://propaganda.eve-razor.com/

    Serious note: Really, you want to be "the" eve site news and you choose this title...

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    I like this idea. Am very impressed with the articles I've read so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCoalist View Post
    I think Razor has a better site for this kind of news: http://propaganda.eve-razor.com/
    We're aware that people will presume that this is just a propaganda site with a different slant from riverini's one, but hopefully that will change a bit over time as people see what we post.
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    Anyway who is the Evol dude who posts the frankly awesome guides to how to fly specific ships? Is it Stevie?
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    Yarp.

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    Finally a reliable news site that we can read and trust


    Why hasn't anyone done this before
    (4:14:52 AM) grimbold_dengrist: all Marivauder does as a mod is post about being a mod

    (11:47:38 AM) endie: If you lot don't stop that I'm moving this corp to test

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    How will Riverini pay his rent now?
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    From our experience down in the south fighting against -A- and the Southern Coalition, I can recommend a great number of quality scribes and storytellers to write unbiased and accurate articles from their perspective. Like people such as:

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    If you nominate yourself I will gut you.

    I mean...

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    Good night and good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Good night and good luck
    Would that make Riverini MacArthur? Or Vince Draken?

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    I welcome this with open arms. Good initiative, already bookmarked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richter Belmont View Post
    From our experience down in the south fighting against -A- and the Southern Coalition, I can recommend a great number of quality scribes and storytellers to write unbiased and accurate articles from their perspective. Like people such as:
    We have an overview of the SW conflict coming from Grath later today.
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    Suggestion: an RSS feed for new content so I can be alerted when new posts are made.

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    Will the comments on articles be moderated, so to avoid en24 levels of retardation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endie View Post
    We have an overview of the SW conflict coming from Grath later today.
    It was a joke because PL freed Dsan and thus they have no posters left

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    And is it purely article-style news, or will there also be shorter battle reports with "breaking news"?

    It looks good to be honest.

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    I'm torn on the name. I feel like it attacks a, "OMG IT'S JUST GOON PROPAGANDA NEWS SITE" by outright declaring, "Yes, it's a site run by goons. Our leader's name is the name of the site. And we can still post objective and factual news with an entertaining writing style." That is...just to make sure it's actually objective and factual. Obviously if you write an article about how -A- stood down, no matter how objective or factual it is, they're going to claim bias and call it a shitty site. So will anyone else, tbh.

    Well, it looks amazing. And it sure as FUCK can't be as bad as that shit hole riverini has created. I hope you can find (good) writers from all groups in EVE (especially enemies of the CFC), keep it quality and keep it objective.

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    Goonie Goons Goons (Nice website looks good) Goons Goons Goonie
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    Quote Originally Posted by riverini View Post
    I welcome this with open arms. Good initiative, already bookmarked.


    Care to comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headblast View Post
    And is it purely article-style news, or will there also be shorter battle reports with "breaking news"?

    It looks good to be honest.
    News will be the meat and drink of the site: we had three days of the final UAT phase when we were confident enough of a launch date to get writers going , so we have a bias towards thought pieces right now, but our aim is to get plenty of fresh news up there with the insight features going out a few times each week.

    We are very keen to get well-written battle-reports from alternate viewpoints, despite peoples' understandable scepticism. As Kiresays points out, we've not tried to hide where the site was born, but we are hopeful that the pieces will, over time, speak for themselves.
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    Oh great, now he has a website named after him... I can feel the from here

    Good luck to you all, it's always nice to have an alternative viewpoint ; especially considering that "soundbite"-style news is dominated by the Daily Mail of EVE. Just be sure to add a link to Verite on the front page so that I never have to go on EN24 ever again

    Quote Originally Posted by Vile rat View Post
    Care to comment?
    You are linking a screenshot of riverini being :riverini: - I'm not sure how much extra commentary there can be before you start to retread old ground

    german giggles :

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    Just some content suggestions; a link to the EVE blog pack would probably be very useful. I don't use it but my buddies do to see when the generic eve bloggers are updated.

    Also:
    - The Verite Sov map
    - A faction warfare writer
    - A wormhole writer
    - Financial/Industry. It would be amazing if Aryth could do some pieces. I don't know him but so many of the epic financial/industrial stories of EVE have him involved. Doesn't have to be anything revealing or even about goons, but yeah. Anyone but that gevlon guy.
    - A CSM member perhaps? Someone just giving articles to keep everyone updated on what the CSM is talking about, any big changes. I'd love to see Elise do it but really anyone involved would be fine.

    You probably have some/all of these being worked on, but just thought I'd throw them in there.

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    Should'a been Endie.com.
    [05:28:32] Damienwhat Solette > friend said, if only they didn't have those 2 falcons there, i said they have 3, and he said that just says they don't want to do anything fair, just want to be dicks about it like not normal dicks but big black huge cocks

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    Some really nice reading on that new site Endie, congrats on a very good looking site.

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    Color me skeptical at best, I thought it was a joke until I clicked on the link, and I'm still not out of the "it's a troll" camp just yet.

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    Good luck Mackenzie
    I've noticed that there's a pretty big disconnect between the general consensus of kugu and what's actually happening. It seems enough people have said it in this thread that people are taking it as fact.

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    Since all EVE news is either objective and terribly misinformed (like that guy who subbed a character to write for IGN or whatever) or informed propaganda (everything else), the best you can do is preface with the bias and carry on.

    I approve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progodlegend View Post
    Color me skeptical at best, I thought it was a joke until I clicked on the link, and I'm still not out of the "it's a troll" camp just yet.
    You should volunteer to be a writer

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    Good luck Endie. Any alternative sources of information are welcome. While I'm not a fan the Goon way of life, I grudgingly admit that when they do something it's usually first class. My hope is this won't devolve into the same
    spurging shit simply housed in a Tiffany blue box.

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    FAIR AND BALANCED

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiresays View Post
    You should volunteer to be a writer
    hmmm, sure.

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    While the site looks nice and articles seem decent, I wish you hadn't named it after Mittens.

    Much for the same reason I wouldn't want to go to a site named Makalu.com or sirMolle.se to read Eve-related articles, it's just a bit too blatant who's side the site is on and it would be hard not take what's written there as goon propaganda. That and the thought of fueling Mittens' ego even more makes me cringe.

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    you should've just used goonfleet forum tbh, the people who care can still read it

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    soon we will pine wistfully for the quality writings of riverini

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Caffeine View Post
    While the site looks nice and articles seem decent, I wish you hadn't named it after Mittens.

    Much for the same reason I wouldn't want to go to a site named Makalu.com or sirMolle.se to read Eve-related articles, it's just a bit too blatant who's side the site is on and it would be hard not take what's written there as goon propaganda. That and the thought of fueling Mittens' ego even more makes me cringe.
    It's like Howard Stern: you either love him or you hate him, but even the haters tune in to see what he's gonna say next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endie View Post
    We're aware that people will presume that this is just a propaganda site with a different slant from riverini's one
    Quote Originally Posted by Endie View Post
    Attachment 3236 so confused

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    the content is great and the layout looks really sleek but I find the article text hard to read - the combination of white on black, the large font size, the unusual font and the line spacing make skimming article text nearly impossible for me.

    I tried increasing the line spacing to 1.6 and found the result much easier to read, same goes for decreasing the font size to 14.

    I also think that the light background (which becomes very prominent on the right once you scroll below the "recent comments" box) hurts legibility as it "outshines" (for lack of a better word) the white on black of the text.

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    What a spergy list of books! 50 Laws of Power, seriously?


    Some examples of the ‘laws’: Conceal your intentions. Always say less than necessary. Never outshine the master. Control your feelings and never display anger. Induce others to talk about themselves, rather than indulging in talking about yourself. Get others to do work for you, then take the credit. Convince through actions, not trying to win an argument. Always appeal to a person’s self interest, not just to their principles. Never be the bearer of bad news. Use a hatchetman if you must do something unpleasant to keep distance. Know when to stop after a victory and consolidate. Make your accomplishments seem effortless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anuuu View Post
    What a spergy list of books! 50 Laws of Power, seriously?
    "The 48 Laws of Power" is for career advice what the "pick-up artist" literature is for relationship advice.

    The outlined concepts do completely miss the point of the matter but work as a "hack" for as long as nobody else knows that you are using them - once your behavior becomes obvious you'll probably make the experience that most people show very little sympathy & understanding for sociopaths, no matter how "true" or "scientific" their theories & methods may be.

    What I found a little disturbing about that book (I read it 6 years ago, so my recollection may be off a bit) is that it assumes that pretty much everyone else is playing the same game as you do - and that leads to a very paranoid world-view in which those who genuinely have good intentions become your most dangerous enemies (you won't get much in terms of leverage against them, they have the credibility that allows them to call you out for what you really are and they have to be assumed to also play the game but at a higher level than you are capable of).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Attachment 3236 so confused
    It's explained in the OP. You could always come up with some arbitrary neutral name and guise it behind that.



    @Riverini:
    I bet you're laughing your ass off at this cause there's no way all those readers would leave your site. You should be smug as fuck that people are imitating you and that you started this whole news thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richter Belmont View Post
    From our experience down in the south fighting against -A- and the Southern Coalition, I can recommend a great number of quality scribes and storytellers to write unbiased and accurate articles from their perspective. Like people such as:
    Yo harsh bro my storytelling is pretty good on occasion.

    The article quality is far and above better than EN24, the site design is also rather good. It also seems to have book reviews, I find this an interesting addition.

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    lol suck his dilzik more, endie
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    It's hilarious to me that somebody would recommend that book for a GAME. Or need 48 Laws to best other spergs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkbox Poll View Post
    FAIR AND BALANCED
    AND UNAFRAID

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    really? they even put ads up specifically for filipino girls? god damn

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    I still feel I'm too to do actual EVE-related articles of any merit (aside from maybe bombing/covops), but I'd be glad to do some Dota 2 articles if there's enough interest. I know TEST's Dota 2 group is about as active as their LoL group, don't know if it's the same for most EVE players.

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    Despite what I think of "The_Mitanni's" book reports I like the rest of the site, despite some funky presentation. Just keep more content coming.

    I'm also looking forward to see a review of some of the classic Modernist works, in particular In Search of Lost Time and the works of Henry Green, which I think contain plenty of useful ideas and perspectives that can be applied to the metagame.

    Edit: How spies play into this venture? Will you use them for :breaking news: or to confirm shit you've managed to snap up? And I'm curious what you mean with "the life" from the About page on your site?

    whether it is Eve-related (such as industry, wormholes, PvP, finance or the life)

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