You know that grath post where he talked about the spergy spreadsheet guys being unshackled and placed into positions of authority? Thereby making GSF unironically less shit? My particular spreadsheet bailiwick is the alliance reimbursement program. I used to play it super-nice, but i've come to realize that my predecessor (Khefron) was right. Be hard, fair, and unafraid to hold an example or two up for a name and shame session and your job gets a lot easier.
Oh man goonies have incentivized desirable behavior. What a radical and new concept. Guess what happened when they stopped reimbursing people that lost their maelstroms to a 3-man gatecamp one jump out of VFK. (jk people still do it)
While I generally support good posting, purging Opti and then starting a witch hunt a.k.a. "Cultural Revolution" two days later is pretty immature in my opinion. It sounds like "Hey we purged this guy. Lets bandwagon anyone who might have reservations about it with a 'Cultural Revolution.'" Who's next, shit fits and lemmings? (Apparently lemming is cliche' but I can't find a better word.)
Then they came for the delvegoons, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a delvegoon. Then they came for the shitposters, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a shitposter. Then they came for the lemmings, but I didn't speak out because I wasn't a lemming. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
I see this as a good thing. After a month of badposter pogroms Goonswarm will be done to a solid core of 500 bittervets who don't play eve but can't stop posting about it![]()
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I agree with you, I'm just saying that this sort of "hard and fair" attitude is exactly the attitude of most of the elite pvpers that goons proclaim to hate. I'm not talking about Supertwinkey69 who rages for no reason at all, I'm talking about good FCs who say, "why are you flying an armor cane in our muninn fleet?" It's been done, the person was shamed. He decided he couldn't handle it and he left for an alliance more suitable for him: Brick Squad.
I get that some goons take the game seriously and some don't, I just think the poster slogan of the clusterfuck being "we're all chill dudes who don't give a shit, you can do whatever you want; but you better fucking bring the right ship with the right fit to fleet" sounds a bit off to my ears.
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We _are_ chill dudes who don't give a shit - but when you leave the best stocked market hub in nullsec, with tons of fleet-appropriate fits pre-fit and waiting for you - in an armor Domi to join a Maelstrom fleet - then expect your chill spacebros to mock and perhaps shoot you. All you have to do is pick the right hull for your skills, load ammo, and undock.
Fleet doctrine and appropriate shiptypes do seem to be one of the things we sperg most about, but having endured NC kitchen sink fleets before I joined the CFC in which a drake was held to be roughly equivalent to an armor fleet BS in an armor fleet, I can't say that I mind. Knowing that my FCs can make appropriate decisions and evaluations of fleet capability based on the shiptypes at hand, and that said ships are fit as the FC expects makes me feel a lot better as a rank-and-file grunt.
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Well, you can still do whatever you want - you don't have to bring the right ship or fit, or even go on the op at all. However, if you expect the alliance to pay for it, you need to follow a minimal, easy-to-follow fitting guide. Yes, you might be mocked or trolled for not going on the op, but you're still welcome to call yourself a Goon and participate in other activities - or, if you'll buy your own damned ship, come on the op in Nigfleet (Mr. Vee honourfights apparently excepted).
When I played, I chose to fly with TEST for that very reason - while I made sure to always bring a properly-fit fleet ship, if I had so wanted I could have pulled out my trusty Harbinger and nobody would have given a fuck besides a bit of mocking and trolling - and, of course, not paying for my stupidity. If I had ever figured out how to properly rat, if I lacked funds (which, barring your well-received donation and a few others toward the end, I did) I could have ratted it up in our home space without any adverse consequences to my membership there. And, if I ever developed something approximating skill, I would have been free to grab a Sabre or some other soloing ship and play around elsewhere in the galaxy. I would... not have been so welcome elsewhere.
I can agree it sounds a bit off, but as long as you are offering a giant carrot for good behavior and only the very gentlest of sticks (limited exclusively to "lol you're terrible" and the like) for poor behavior, I don't think that's inconsistent with "chill" at all.
Nah, people are always welcome to fly what they want on strategic ops - i regularly fly a pulse apoc I brought from the fall of Delve on ops. It's more about getting them to not waste my and my team's time by filing for reimbursement. On a regular week, I reimburse somewhere between 200-500 ships per week. Sometimes more if DBRB is truffling. In the time it takes to write a pm and yell at someone, I could have processed 5 legit requests.
And it doesn't drop off when we aren't at war. Our membercorps take over and crash fleets into walls throughout cobalt edge, syndicate, tribute and ec-. So it's less about stopping someone's ability to fly what they want and more about educating them that they are shitting on a team of volunteer reimbursers when they post something they know is wrong.
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get money get paid
I think "gotta have some skin in the game" was niart epar.
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hry guys lemme turn this video game into a job hurrr
This doesn't make sense to me. The whole strength of GS is their ability to harness the latent (and underappreciated) strengths of the retard through simple yet effective fleet concepts and exceptional logistics. It works by lowering the bar, not by raising the retard.
On second thoughts, maybe I'm being a bit harsh. You may actually enjoy RPing a spaceclerk.
unironical o7m8
people smacking someone about reimbursing ships or doing alliance logistics are fucking retarded.
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lot of publords hemming and hawing about 'how gsf is' and 'how gsf works' and what the 'real gsf style' is itt
thanks for your views they matter a lot to us, might i interest you in the 'true flame of gooniness' which is presently held by the elitistops corporation in pandemic legion alliance??
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I don't know, Mittani, penif seems to know a lot about you guys.
some amzerok guy made this, probably the best one yet
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So a lot of guys in TEST aren't impressed with this new "cultural initiative" and have made some propaganda of their own. There's way more than I can post, and a lot is quite good but here's some of my favorites.
Credit goes to Hanakar, Fras Siabi and Ky Askoli
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
original content dont steal
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Y'know, Lorren, I think it would be an appropriate analogy of GSF leadership as Nguy?n Ng?c Loan and TEST-quality posters as Nguy?n V?n Lém. That poster doesn't get who is who right.
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I hope you get aids and die
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