noob alts in mallers letting fools tanks sentys work too.....killed a ashimmu once with my 1mill sp cyno bait maller(frig guns and nos). he had a rorqual shield repping him(tho he was armour tanked so he kept bleeding) , he died when I was in stucture. .) (it was on a station and for some reason he never deagressed)
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"God created the world in seven days, in a smaller, but no less impressive gesture, I destroyed HTA in 5"
Grath
Mr Blue / Twisted girl /Stripperella - SNIGG - PL
Having seen some alliances fitting and theory sections I have come across some scarey shit.Originally Posted by Viribus
For some reason, everytime I've derped around lowsec with an active tanked cyclone an IVY gang of like 30 frigates always seems to find me. No shit without fail, its the most randomly frustrating event in eve.
Like trying to drive across the map in Fallout 2 and you keep getting the same worthless random event pop up like nine times in a row.
[B]I PAID 25 EUROS FOR A SIG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS SHITTY TROLL ATTEMPT[/B]
No one said that. I know it sucks when you have a really awesome line and no one will set you up, but sometimes you gotta let it go.
I like how he was all "lap up my wisdom" when my self described shitty solo pvper ass, uh, gave the same advice plus more like six months ago. It's basic stuff.
1) Fly a ship you're comfortable with because getting used to the new play style is hard enough
2) Non meta fits give you surprise advantage, but new and learning solo players are better off in the tried and true stuff because they aren't comfortable enough with solo to exploit surprise yet
3) Lots of really minor stuff you don't need to know about manual flight and engagement ranges in gang fights become super critical when you are 1v1 or solo against a group
4) Get used to mind rotting horrorboredom of playing eve without other people
5) When you find other people, odds are they will kill you because you are alone
My god it's like I fucked the knowledge out of Moses rather than repeated the same old received wisdom people (but of course not infinitely superior SUPERELITESERIOUSSOLOHARDMEN) have been repeating since pretty much the game started.
http://www.eveiseasy.com/
Website genos dudes made dedicated to teaching small gang pvp by using vids with comentary.
Acording to them eve is easy
Did you see the new video they put up? Honestly the guy makes it look pretty easy, racking up three or more kills solo'ing small gangs and surviving.
Given most of the kills are on shitty intys that don't know the value of transverse velocity and buffer tanked BCs, but still, it's pretty fun to watch.
If everyone were competent, solo pvp would be nearly impossible.
And this forum would be very, very, boring.
This Taranis loss was a very gf. I was only able to kill this T1 rifter, but I was able to drive off one of the bombers and survive for a very long time against the rest of the group by overheating my AB and keeping high transversal, which mitigated almost all bomb damage and kept the 'Nado from tracking me.
Killed a questionably fit INS by simply orbiting at around 4k with an overloaded AB. His lasers still kinda tracked me (and he might have killed me if he had Multifreq loaded), and we both got into structure at the same time. Problem is that Taranises are structure "tanked," so I blew through his gimped structure (due to Nano) quite quickly. I got the pod, too, and I lol'ed when I saw that he had a 3% CPU implant in addition to the co-processor.
I got another kill later on by overheating all the things and praying.
Is providence is a good place to find noobs again?
Most definitely, I killed the following just going solo in a Taranis yesterday:Is providence is a good place to find noobs again?
Rifter
INS
Rifter
Jaguar
The fight with the Jag was one of great honoure on both sides. I killed him while in 10% structure. Moreover, his gang was on the other side of the gate, so he had them jump in, but not uncloak so that it was an honourable 1v1. When I killed him, though, they did uncloak and finished off my Taranis. While I was warping my pod out of Provi, the nerd whose INS I had killed earlier camped a gate in a HIC and destroyed my expensive pod. Those implants are perfect for Taranis flying, btw.
I am literally retarded. Lost this Vagabond. Was burning away from the harb when the vengeance warped in, but he someone how caught up to me and scram+webbed my ass. I was like, "Haha, you've activated my trap card!" (Neut). And then he was like, "lol, fit a nos, bitch," and then I fucking died. It's too late right now, so I'm just gonna go be high andfor being such a fucking retard.
Moral of the story, AFs are pretty boss with the new buffs. Retributions are actually worth flying!I am literally retarded. Lost this Vagabond. Was burning away from the harb when the vengeance warped in, but he someone how caught up to me and scram+webbed my ass. I was like, "Haha, you've activated my trap card!" (Neut). And then he was like, "lol, fit a nos, bitch," and then I fucking died. It's too late right now, so I'm just gonna go be high and
how did your cap hold up with an invuln?I am literally retarded. Lost this Vagabond. Was burning away from the harb when the vengeance warped in, but he someone how caught up to me and scram+webbed my ass. I was like, "Haha, you've activated my trap card!" (Neut). And then he was like, "lol, fit a nos, bitch," and then I fucking died. It's too late right now, so I'm just gonna go be high and
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
I had led a 6-Vaga gang into Provi earlier in the day, but we weren't able to find any fights. There were CVA gangs up, but we were being hounded by a Tuskers gang that had Drakes, 'Canes, Cynabals, Scimis, and Rapiers, and as a not super-experienced FC, I didn't wanna try my hand at kiting shit with Recons on the field. Anyway, because we might have had Scimis in the gang I led, depending on what the turnout was, we all had Adaptive Invulnerability Field II's fit.
In response to your question, I think the cap is fine with invulns, because you should be pulsing anyways. Unless you and a Cynabal are on some high-speed nano duel to the sun, you're probably not gonna be perma-running it. Having 2x LSE's gains you about 10 seconds cap life over having an LSE and an Invuln. So, not really a huge deal, in my opinion, but in the future, I will probs fit 2x LSE's if I'm not rolling with Logi.
Also, another reason I probably died was having ECM drones in my bay. Again, for the gang, I had switched out my Warriors for ECM in case we had to jam out a Battleship while killing other stuff or some such elite maneuver. I'm still pretty ~mad~ at myself, but I'll probably go restoure honoure by flying a Taranis again.
Resubbing
cIs providence is a good place to find noobs again?
For some easy-mode grab literally any solo-capable frig, head to R3- and annoy the locals.
Tons of shitfit tackle to be had.
Just watch out when moving through gates or be in something sufficiently fast - CVA tends to have decent intel and people bored enough to bridge ahead/setup an instalock camp given even the slightest chance to get that frig kill.
Confirming this. I see HIC's out and about constantly, which is a far cry from the stationary-bubbles-only regions of Tribute/Vale.
An honourable 1v1 was had between myself and FHC poster Tyrus Tenebros. At the beginning of the fight, a quick "Look At" showed that he was rocking rockets, meaning that I didn't have to waste time spiraling in. He had scram+web, which would've been able to keep a single-prop Taranis out of Null range, but by overheating my AB, I was still able to get into comfortable damage range. After that, it was just orbit with AB and F1.
killmail
As a side note, while writing this post and simultaneously moving myself towards a roam formup location, I was instapopped on a low-sec gate by some nerd in a Vigilant. It was a humbling experience that reminded me I am still human, despite my frig v. frig godliness (killmail).
Anyone else noticed Vagas are kinda garbage solo nowadays?
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
Yea, when AAA was assaulting C-J, I had a camp up in their staging system for about 5 days, I was there in a Vaga.
On the last day of the camp, I was pulling out alone, and jumped with a drake through a gate, which i prompty tackled on the other side of the gate.
Man I milked my MWD, juiced it just after each missile hit so i'd be at speed for the next volley, I hung in really close, dangerously close even, 11km skirting the whole time, the drake webbed me 3 or 4 times during the fight, which lasted about 3 minutes.
The final result, was me warping off at 80% armor, with the drake at about 30% armor, because by the time I had gotten him that low his friends from next door came to save him and I had to bug out.
Comparably, a Cynabal aligns faster, has a higher base scan res with a cloak as a vaga without a cloak, and does ass tons more damage. The ONLY reason you fly the vaga is for the resist profile, and evidently you NEVER fly one alone anymore because a blarazu is literally more dangerous than your vaga.
I'm gonna buy another just because I lost my first one in a stupid manner, but I've kinda come to this conclusion prematurely. With the widespread presence of Recons that can turn off your one defense (mobility) at almost any moment and the use of Assault Frigs, which are tanky enough to hold you down long enough for deeps to arrive, you're liable to become a sitting duck at almost any moment, leading to an expensive death. I think Cynabals are still viable due to dual-propping, but they're also really susceptible to Recons.
yeah, I switched completely from Vagabonds to Cynabals and Slepnirs.
The cynabal's damage is from the fact that it can fit 425s easily and you can throw on a T2 ambit or something to project your damage even further, however if you have AWU V and some plugs you can fit 425s on a cloaky vagabond and actually do more damage than a 425 cynabal. Also, a vaga with 2 LSEs and no suitcase has a lil' more EHP than a cynabal with 2 LSEs and a meta 3 suitcase (which is pretty much required for the cloaky fit) so you can afford to use a third gyro instead of a damage control on a vaga without seriously impacting your tank, which the cynabal can't do.
Cynabals are better for most applications but they do have a couple disadvantages people don't often think about. If I weren't a special snowflake and didn't fly a vigilant in nano gangs I'd fly a cynabal but if I were being a cloaky faggot I'd run around with a vaga 'cause it does about 75 more DPS with the same EHP and costs a bit less. The horrible agility of a vagabond isn't so bad if you're not in a proper gang and you're still nimble enough to MWD+cloak through camps.
Also a vaga has a larger cargohold to haul all your sick pvp loot
Some more tales of honour for you:
Last night, I went on a 2-hour roam through Branch and Venal. Needless to say, it was a huge waste of time. I came back through the usual M-0 loop, and on the Taisy gate I saw a Wolf. I convo'ed him and asked fora 1v1. He didn't respond, so I decided I'd force one. I start my approach spiral in, start deepsing, and... a gang of cloakies appears and steals victory right out of my grasp.
Today, I went roaming in Providence, looking for :gudfites:. While I was derping around in R-3, CVA formed up the following against me: 2x Tengu, 2x Harbinger, 4x Hurricane, 2x Ares, Wolf, Tornado, and Maelstrom. I call them out in local for being pussies (as does one of their own), and I eventually get asked fora 1v1 by the Wolf pilot. I don't believe him at first, but after some coaxing, he proves honourable. We warp to a planet, and I proceed to waste his (not-well-fit) Arty Wolf. I head around the Providence loop, and I encounter a Dramiel on a gate. He, too, is not well-fit, and I end the fight in 1/4 structure. As I approach his wreck (hoping for some crazy Deadspace shit), I get popped by :something:. According to the killmail, his Drones kept attacking me, though it may have been the rats. I was saddened greatly, because I could've repaired my ship (in CVA-owned stations; lawl) and kept on owning.
The Taranis can literally not be stopped. I have yet to go solo against an Enyo, and I think that might be the fight I actually lose 1v1.
Yeah an enyo will own you 1v1, it does basically the same dps and tracking with twice the tank, three times against hybrids.
You used to be able to kill wolves and jags 1v1 with a heated AB because they just couldn't track you but this is a lot harder with the new tracking bonus.
Yeah
Everyone rolls faggot 5x Vespa EC-600 Cynabals too which isnt helping.
For 0wnz0ning tackle (which the Vaga is supposed to be good at) i've found the Slicer to be quite amazing. Just leave the fucking nanos out of the fit and you end up with like 185 heated Scorch dps @22km. Also them inties actually want to burn in and tackle you, whereas the Vaga is known as frigate killer.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12713459
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12810078
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12811249
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12847056
etc.
Really cheap too, the hull is like 12mil nowadays.
Vs. Jags you just roll rails and outrange:
http://kb.ds-alliance.com/kill/826320/ (falcon decloaked late, lol)
Vs. Wolf i'd say no chance, barring literal retards. AC-fits got very good damage projection and those prom-style Artillery fits will 3-volley you from 20+k.
I love my slicer but I don't get enough chances to use it, people in fountain tend to fly battlecruisers and use other battlecruisers for tackle.
I even made a video of the few fights I've got with my slicer but it kinda sucks
I'm actually about 85% convinced that the people who fly them habitually are actually getting worse at the game. Either that or the blasterbuff did more than I initially expected. Or maybe the Ti3 BCs are completely and ridiculously overpowered at close range brawling. Or maybe it's a combination of the above.
It's that cynabals are much better and almost the same price. Many ships have close/the same damage projection with more dps.
Vaga can be really good as well with hac v and shit like that as viribus shows with his 425mm fit, but the generic 220 vaga only excels at killing tackle, and who flies frigs these days with recons and links and shit.
Doesn't make sense because the Cynabal pilots are terrible too.
Does anyone even engage Cynabals? I generally just ignore them since with what I usually fly I either can't catch them or can't kill them ...
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12440284
A lot of dudes pretty much lose their minds when they fly Vaga/Cyna and instead of using the entirely sensible "Keep At Range" and "Orbit at..." commands, furiously double click in space. I would have never have caught this joker if he hadn't been flying manually.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
You have to convince them to engage and have a plan for making sure they stay commited.
But yeah, for the most part they are really are risk-adverse and the slightest thing will lead to them taunting you in local while they fly around 300km away.
This is weird because you're supposed to manually fly kiting ships but obviously this guy is a mega retard.
I'm actually looking forward to fly prom-style (aka 800mm plate/rep/nos/eccm/lg grails) Sac, which should have just enough speed/agility to catch bads in Cynabals.
Ship has quite nice stats for a solo hac (550dps/300dps repped/37k eHP/43 sensor strength; heat/standard exile included); also amazing capacitor.
Unfortunately scout is rather mandatory for 0.0 as HAMs are just terrible when it comes to shaking tackle.
i use keep at range and orbit, supplemented by manual flying when they are taking me somewhere dumb. its helpful to know you're still maintaining range while you look at other ships and get a feeling how shit is arrayed on the grid. better for overall situational awareness, imo.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
I try not to use orbit 'cause it's really predictable where you'll go and you can get caught before you even realise they are manoeuvring to catch you
Usually a quick glance at the overview every few seconds is enough for me to keep up-to-date on shit happening, most of the time I'm looking at brackets to have a good feel for what's around me and where they're moving
But that's all pretty much down to preference, and of course orbiting is much more viable if it's the only thing on grid with you.
I'm such a fucking scrub that I've only ever used automatic orbit - how does one orbit manually (obviously you just click your route, but I'm wondering if there's a trick to it)?
Lots of Practice? I'm pretty bad at it so I try to avoid it
click in space. it's useful when you are monitoring your transversal trying to burn at someone.
you kinda keep the ship you're trying to orbit in a particular spot in your screen, but offset from the center, by rotating the camera and clicking.
im pretty bad at explaining it.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
t1 thrasher
Yeah funnily enough it's way easier to do than to explain, i used to do it all the time when i solo'd but i couldnt even begin to tell you how the fuck i did it
edit: i just loved the hookbill for 1v1ing in the past, has the AF buff made the hawk competitive at all and is the hookbill still a decent choice with said buffs?
The hawk is like a tankier hookbill, you can also active tank it which is p funny. However you cannot web/scram/mse/dualprop it like you can with a hookbill (barely)
Really? Unless there's something wrong with the pyfa build I have, this looks to be fitting with 11cpu and 2pg spare, no implants.
[Hawk, Hawk fit]
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Rocket
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Haha fuck I totally forgot they gave it another mid
Lost an SFI for like the third time without killing anything. I don't get the appeal of being anti-frig, because all non-retarded frigs run from you. Also, this bitch was web+neut fit, so my sweet tank wasn't so sweet, and my small sig wasn't that helpful.
Back to the Taranis!
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