Start the War Engines: Branching out to Branch

[Elektrea]

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11942581 < see that shows it better and with that I bid you all a good day!

almost even on BS kills, looked like a good fight if you look at the numbers on each side.

[Murr]

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?

[Murzilka]

almost even on BS kills, looked like a good fight if you look at the numbers on each side.

We shall not white-knight WN, they are shit. A killed toddler Nyx and a juicy Titan embryo make it an even better fight.

[Manny]

Somewhere Nync is sitting very SMUG.

[Player of no importance]

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?

At least it took us years to decay under the weight of carebears and easy isk. WN did it in, what, 6-7 months? WN is like that dude in Indiana Jones who drank from the wrong cup.

[Arrador]

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?

Or maybe we were really that shitty...

[Glomp]

The super caps in the CSSAs, were they to be sold to PL? If not then the circle is not yet complete.

[Aeon221]

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?

Murdering the NC was how we knew they were pro?

I think that's just a clue that they were slightly less incompetent.

Never forget, MARU KAGE.

[Malaclypse]

Or maybe we were really that shitty...

Just think about how shitty IT/-A-/Atlas and co must have been.

[Murr]

Or maybe we were really that shitty...

Well both are valid. WN at least until I stopped playing though was good. And in just a few months of spaceholding and moonsucking it went all the way into being dead, or that's how it looks to the unsubscribed & quite uninformed lately, observer (me!).

[Malaclypse]

Well both are valid. WN at least until I stopped playing though was good. And in just a few months of spaceholding and moonsucking it went all the way into being dead, or that's how it looks to the unsubscribed & quite uninformed lately, observer (me!).

Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time you were really active WN was still a Venal-based NPC alliance and Nync still was with ROL. (Nothing wrong with winning eve for so long, don't get me wrong. )

[Murr]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time you were really active WN was still a Venal-based NPC alliance and Nync still was with ROL. (Nothing wrong with winning eve for so long, don't get me wrong. )

And that's the WN I'm referring to. The mega-blob WN that came with the rapearmy was definitely impressive but I couldn't really say if they were good or not.

Murdering the NC was how we knew they were pro?

I think that's just a clue that they were slightly less incompetent.

Never forget, MARU KAGE.

While I'm not arguing per se, if we follow that line of thought then we are down to PL being actually good in all environments and maybe Darkside in some? 'Tis pretty sad .

[Arrador]

And that's the WN I'm referring to. The mega-blob WN that came with the rapearmy was definitely impressive but I couldn't really say if they were good or not..

Correct. You're probably remembering the 6nj incident. They were working with Cry Havoc back then.

[Magere]

Lil' gem about DBRB from SA y'all should see. From pro poster Vatek.

The truffle pig or "DBRB" is a pig used for locating ships of the capital, supercapital or freighter class in nullsec space in EVE Online. The pig has a good sense of smell and is able to identify capital ships from as far as 2 regions away. Once a capital has been identified, the pig emits a keening sound referred to as "barkbarkbarkbark" which summons swarms of peculiar creatures known as "goons", which will immediately attack and attempt to destroy any ships in the area, even if they are not capital-class vessels. This will occasionally result in the death of the pig.

If the pig is unable to sniff out any of these ships, after a while it will instead begin to speak, regaling any nearby listeners with tales about its life and past experiences. There is evidence that extended listening causes irreversible brain damage, but whether this is a defensive mechanism or simply an evolutionary oddity is unknown.

Best when imagined in David Attenborough's voice.

[Kazanir]

Oh shit, WN have created a smugboat.

smugboat posting gives me such a shit-eating grin, i love it

[Atticus]

Someone tell me about MARU KAGE and why they're so terrible again. I have a very short memory span.

[Grath]

The super caps in the CSSAs, were they to be sold to PL? If not then the circle is not yet complete.

WN never publicly sold supers to us or anybody else. The only ones we got from there were always contract payments, otherwise all their supers were internal builds.

This may have changed with the recent policy changes that let shit ass MM corps in, but up till about 2 months ago we'd not bought any supers from them.

[Propagandas]

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?

They still in HED i think

[Horus]

tbh when we joined wn i was expecting much more , subcapital fleet was mediocre,same for doctrine,i made everybody in corp own a tengu a machariel a sleipnir as standard and we never got chance to use it in alliance fleet, or yes once, chanka called for an alliance cta command ship format and only 11 command show up 9 from my corp, 60 in fleet, from 250 online than we stop to bring valuable ship since we where the only corp willing to do that. Russian where bringing hurricanes with salvager in instead neutralizer lol.

And many fittings were pretty bad tbh,
(and nobody got balls to say that, i did over and over and loudly and everybody include fc told me nobody can change anything becouse psi was deciding even the doctrine-fittings , it reminded me that scene from the hitler movie, where generals got afraid to told him the truth or even arguing what was obiously retarded)
Fleets where bad compared to ncdot-pl-raiden composition-doctrine , then i suggested to use tengu, , and got refused, becouse was too much for wn, that was better stick with drake fleets lol,supercapital wise was ok , only pl than later raiden-ncdot where able to match that numbers 30-35 ms 15 titan in a good cta. problem is wn stopped to increase sc becouse none of the builded one where going for sell internally, the corp who today lost 3 jf, where building 5 titan every month and selling it outside the alliance, becouse alliance(psi) where supposed to give them 30b for each titan selled in the alliance for 45b. never happened, so wn lost the race for super and it ended in shameful condition where with 25 ms formed up in a pos in hed we let one of our ms die vs 70 pl subcapital in hed, becouse we know that they got more super formed up rdy for come. 6 months ago PL not where able to score a kill like that to wn and exit with impunity.

[Elenor Pewpew]

tbh when we joined wn i was expecting much more , subcapital fleet was mediocre,same for doctrine, and many fittings were pretty bad tbh,(and nobody got balls to say that, i did over and over and loudly and everybody include fc told me nobody can change anything becouse psi was deciding even the doctrine-fittings , it reminded me that scene from the hitler movie, where generals got afraid to told him the truth) compared to ncdot-pl-raiden, then i suggested to use tengu, , and got refused, becouse was too much for wn, that was better stick with drake fleets lol,supercapital wise was ok , only pl than later raiden-ncdot where able to match that numbers 30-35 ms 15 titan in a good cta. problem is wn stopped to increase sc becouse none of the builded one where going for sell internally, the corp who today lost 3 jf, where building 5 titan every month and selling it outside the alliance, becouse alliance(psi) where supposed to give them 30b for each titan selled in the alliance for 45b. never happened, so wn lost the race for super and it ended in shameful condition where with 25 ms formed up in a pos in hed we let one of our ms die vs 70 pl subcapital in hed, becouse we know that they got more super formed up rdy for come. 6 months ago PL not where able to score a kill like that to wn and exit with impunity.

Fantastic - remind me again what this has to do with you fielding an abbadon fleet that just got murdered by FUCKING DBRB OF ALL PEOPLE?

[Omeega]

I just had to read Horus's post out loud to try understand it.
Unfortunately, I just got fired after the Hitler quote.

Oh well, life.

[Horus]

Fantastic - remind me again what this has to do with you fielding an abbadon fleet that just got murdered by FUCKING DBRB OF ALL PEOPLE?

quoting Murr

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?



i was answering that, dunno how was theyr doctrine 6 months ago but when we joined, we overstimated wn expecial regards sub-capitals, regards super they where ok until they started to lose edge becouse no super where selled internally, and wn builder where selling theyr outside the alliance. like nc

nobody expecial me and my corp joined wn, for fly drake fleets tbh. and abaddon are so easy to fly, that is a "secure" doctrine for low skilled pilots. not a proof of quality or skill tbh. they are just bricks with cannons used in monkey cta f1 f2, every time wn tryed something more skill oriented like paper(very bad alliance fit) alpha pest, with regroup point, warp out ,warp in point, it ended in a disaster ppl not where able to triangle on warp points and generally ended warping on enemy buble behind our formation and get killed, even vs drake fleets wich are a good target for an alligned alpha fleet if the pilots know what they are doing

[Planetary Genocide]

tbh when we joined wn i was expecting much more , subcapital fleet was mediocre,same for doctrine,i made everybody in corp own a tengu a machariel a sleipnir as standard and we never got chance to use it in alliance fleet, or yes once, chanka called for an alliance cta command ship format and only 11 command show up 9 from my corp, 60 in fleet, from 250 online than we stop to bring valuable ship since we where the only corp willing to do that. Russian where bringing hurricanes with salvager in instead neutralizer lol.

And many fittings were pretty bad tbh,
(and nobody got balls to say that, i did over and over and loudly and everybody include fc told me nobody can change anything becouse psi was deciding even the doctrine-fittings , it reminded me that scene from the hitler movie, where generals got afraid to told him the truth or even arguing what was obiously retarded)
Fleets where bad compared to ncdot-pl-raiden composition-doctrine , then i suggested to use tengu, , and got refused, becouse was too much for wn, that was better stick with drake fleets lol,supercapital wise was ok , only pl than later raiden-ncdot where able to match that numbers 30-35 ms 15 titan in a good cta. problem is wn stopped to increase sc becouse none of the builded one where going for sell internally, the corp who today lost 3 jf, where building 5 titan every month and selling it outside the alliance, becouse alliance(psi) where supposed to give them 30b for each titan selled in the alliance for 45b. never happened, so wn lost the race for super and it ended in shameful condition where with 25 ms formed up in a pos in hed we let one of our ms die vs 70 pl subcapital in hed, becouse we know that they got more super formed up rdy for come. 6 months ago PL not where able to score a kill like that to wn and exit with impunity.

I actually tried to make sense of all this, but the only thing I could glean was that WN was bad back even before you joined it.

E: and that they sold titans to outsiders because psi screwed them

[demonachizer]

tbh when we joined wn i was expecting much more , subcapital fleet was mediocre,same for doctrine,i made everybody in corp own a tengu a machariel a sleipnir as standard and we never got chance to use it in alliance fleet, or yes once, chanka called for an alliance cta command ship format and only 11 command show up 9 from my corp, 60 in fleet, from 250 online than we stop to bring valuable ship since we where the only corp willing to do that. Russian where bringing hurricanes with salvager in instead neutralizer lol.

And many fittings were pretty bad tbh,
(and nobody got balls to say that, i did over and over and loudly and everybody include fc told me nobody can change anything becouse psi was deciding even the doctrine-fittings , it reminded me that scene from the hitler movie, where generals got afraid to told him the truth or even arguing what was obiously retarded)
Fleets where bad compared to ncdot-pl-raiden composition-doctrine , then i suggested to use tengu, , and got refused, becouse was too much for wn, that was better stick with drake fleets lol,supercapital wise was ok , only pl than later raiden-ncdot where able to match that numbers 30-35 ms 15 titan in a good cta. problem is wn stopped to increase sc becouse none of the builded one where going for sell internally, the corp who today lost 3 jf, where building 5 titan every month and selling it outside the alliance, becouse alliance(psi) where supposed to give them 30b for each titan selled in the alliance for 45b. never happened, so wn lost the race for super and it ended in shameful condition where with 25 ms formed up in a pos in hed we let one of our ms die vs 70 pl subcapital in hed, becouse we know that they got more super formed up rdy for come. 6 months ago PL not where able to score a kill like that to wn and exit with impunity.

What the fuck do all those words even mean?

[sbeaulieu]

Smug boat best boat! His stories are even more cheesy and cute when he is smug.

[Night]

What the fuck do all those words even mean?

They mean that Horus can't write English at a third-grade level.

[demonachizer]

http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=233539

Nyx pilot now lost his carrier. No word if the carrier was fleet warped out of a safe pos like the nyx. Probably an RMTer http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=480709

[sbeaulieu]

quoting Murr

What happened to that pro WN we knew that was constantly murdering NC? Lost it with the moons and the space that fast?



i was answering that, dunno how was theyr doctrine 6 months ago but when we joined, we overstimated wn expecial regards sub-capitals, regards super they where ok until they started to lose edge becouse no super where selled internally, and wn builder where selling theyr outside the alliance. like nc

nobody expecial me and my corp joined wn, for fly drake fleets tbh. and abaddon are so easy to fly, that is a "secure" doctrine for low skilled pilots. not a proof of quality or skill tbh. they are just bricks with cannons used in monkey cta f1 f2, every time wn tryed something more skill oriented like paper(very bad alliance fit) alpha pest, with regroup point, warp out ,warp in point, it ended in a disaster ppl not where able to triangle on warp points and generally ended warping on enemy buble behind our formation and get killed, even vs drake fleets wich are a good target for an alligned alpha fleet if the pilots know what they are doing

What are you trying to say? I'm pretty confused... please explain in further details.

[Lorren Canada]

This could get really interesting if RA and WN get crushed in the next 3-4 months, you have to wonder what's the future of the drone regions? SOLAR could be left out in the cold pretty soon.

[Berious]

Someone tell me about MARU KAGE and why they're so terrible again. I have a very short memory span.

I thought they were just a CAOD troll corp

[Player of no importance]

http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=233539

Nyx pilot now lost his carrier. No word if the carrier was fleet warped out of a safe pos like the nyx. Probably an RMTer http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=480709

Hey, you gotta give it to the guy for true carebear spirit. Oh, a 600 man fleet is sieging the system next door? Whatevs, I got some fucking ratting to do.

[Lorren Canada]

http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=233539

Nyx pilot now lost his carrier. No word if the carrier was fleet warped out of a safe pos like the nyx. Probably an RMTer http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=480709

Hey man, he's gotta rat up enough isk to replace that Nyx

[Horus]

What the fuck do all those words even mean?

long story short it means wn where unable to fly tengu fleet becouse was too much for the average member, so subcapital wise they where mediocre, and since psi was deciding the fittings and he not was even in game, we where forced to use that shit and nobody got balls to change it or complains, only me finded that retarded and started to arguing about.(even if many where agreeing on that, nobody was tryng to raise theyr voice regards that)

regards super wn where ok until supercapital builders inside alliance started to build stuff and sell it outside the alliance, so wn slowly lose the advantage they got towards ncdot.raiden.

so right now. wn, is overall inferior to pl raiden ncdot in both sense. (maybe with the new corps they gained some extra meat for show up some extra numbers and supers, but if the system-internal structure remain the same, is only a temporany remedial )

maybe psi is a good leader, regards politics but nobody can be competent in all field, and he impose his vision on everything , fc and others are merely executors of his will, unable to express theyr point of view or experience even if comes directly from the field. is an uni-lateral way relationship, that works as long ppl are willing to swallow insults if they have something in return (space-moons) when this will end wn will be a 3 corp alliance (maybe)

[Elenor Pewpew]

Hey man, he's gotta rat up enough isk to replace that Nyx

No no - he RMTd the isk, he's ratting for the fittings. Literally. He's scooping the loot and fitting it straight on.

[Skinae]

so right now. wn, is overall inferior to pl raiden ncdot in both sense.

Holy shit, news flash.

Someone call Greta, we gotta get this on Fox NOW.

[Aeon221]

No no - he RMTd the isk, he's ratting for the fittings. Literally. He's scooping the loot and fitting it straight on.

<muzak>He's rmt'd isk, isn't that nice! Scooping the loot and fitting it twice! Stupid fag is jumping, around!</muzak>

Needs more but something about your post just instagibbed my brain and sent it into shitty Santafag music mode.

Holy shit, news flash.
Someone call Greta, we gotta get this on Fox

[Horus]

Holy shit, news flash.

Someone call Greta, we gotta get this on Fox NOW.

i not see anywhere where i was tryng to get that as a news, simply sayng that situation become worst and worst and even the "average wn grunt" started to perceive that as a problem , and when ppl not trust anymore the alliance and the leadership you get even less ppl and super in fleet

[Fix Lag]

only me finded that retarded

OH

MY

FUCKING

GOD

I want to kill you, I want to kill your family, and I want to kill anyone who has ever come within 20 feet of you as a precaution against this kind of stupidity ever spreading to the rest of us.

[Elenor Pewpew]

<muzak>He's rmt'd isk, isn't that nice! Scooping the loot and fitting it twice! Stupid fag is jumping, around!</muzak>

Needs more but something about your post just instagibbed my brain and sent it into shitty Santafag music mode.

If you've been anywhere near a mall in the last month your brain has probably been fried by all the shitty christmas songs on repeat ad nauseum

[Securitas]

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11942581 < see that shows it better and with that I bid you all a good day!

So lemme get this straight. 2:1 odds and you kill a nyx and a 1.5b tower(that's counted 3 times) but only 80% eff?

To be clear this isn't a "omg goons are terrible" post but that's not something to brag about. You won the fight strategically, so props for that though.

[Fix Lag]

Okay, since apparently some people don't get it, I don't actually want to kill you, kill your family, or kill every human being who has come within 20 feet of you within your lifetime just in case your particular brand of stupid rubbed off on them.

Yes I do.

[Scotch]

http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=233539

Nyx pilot now lost his carrier. No word if the carrier was fleet warped out of a safe pos like the nyx. Probably an RMTer http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=480709

Check the date on that Thanatos mail, Scooter.

[spoiler=Unrelated to anything. Read at own risk.][/spoiler]

[Hratli Smirks]

long story short it means wn where unable to fly tengu fleet becouse was too much for the average member, so subcapital wise they where mediocre, and since psi was deciding the fittings and he not was even in game, we where forced to use that shit and nobody got balls to change it or complains, only me finded that retarded and started to arguing about.(even if many where agreeing on that, nobody was tryng to raise theyr voice regards that)

I genuinely don't know why you are banging on about tengufleets they aren't that great after all

[Kitty Vintner]

80% efficiency isn't bad when you're dealing with numbers where abaddons can alpha shit and you've got 40 scorpions with logistics only overviews and brackets turned off. vov

Also: Jam the DPS I don't care what the wiki says!

[Night]

Holy shit, Hratli lives.

[Securitas]

80% efficiency isn't bad when you're dealing with numbers where abaddons can alpha shit and you've got 40 scorpions with logistics only overviews and brackets turned off. vov

This completely true if you don't have an extra 22 billion of Nyx/towers tilting the BR.

Basically I'm saying despite all the "WN are shit wolololol" they actually did decent for themselves, in that battle at least.

[Endie]

Lol that dude was all "look at your isk efficiency you must harden up" well back to the drawing board guys.

[Will Hunter]

seriusly isk efficience?

[Securitas]

seriusly isk efficience?

seris speling rilly?

[Securitas]

Lol that dude was all "look at your isk efficiency you must harden up" well back to the drawing board guys.

"Basically I'm saying despite all the "WN are shit wolololol" they actually did decent for themselves, in that battle at least"

Whoops. Learn to read and you won't look dumb.