Gadhafi is Dead?

**Grim** · 2011-10-20

It is being reported that Gadhafi is dead. Will be cool to see how it actually happened. There is also some confusion since first they said he was captured, and then then he died...

Will this solve all of Libya's problems, or will the recent fighting just be the first of a series of wars that lead to further decline in North Africa, like what happened in Somalia in the 1990s?

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/20/libyan-fighters-say-they-have-captured-gadhafi/?iref=BN1&hpt=hp_t1

**Barry Zuckerkorn** · 2011-10-20

Damn you are fast on that. I just found it and thought it would be good to post here. Anyway in other news Clinton did meet with the transitional government, so it looks like things are looking up for them.

**cloaky** · 2011-10-20

Claims that his body is being moved to Misrata

**Aurora148** · 2011-10-20

The tribes which inhabit the inland area of Libya are very pragmatic, if Gadaffi had survived then he might have been able to convince them that the country would be better under his rule again. Without him around they will go for the next most powerful force which is the NTC.

**cloaky** · 2011-10-20

Several news networks touting this as a photo of his body.

[spoiler=photo of his body?]Attachment 1865[/spoiler]

**Chipmunk McPaul** · 2011-10-20

Originally Posted by cloaky

Several news networks touting this as a photo of his body.

[spoiler=photo of his body?]Attachment 1865[/spoiler]

Several news networks seem to rely on 4chan photoshops for information

brilliant

**Rer** · 2011-10-20

Well now, I honestly can't say I saw this happening anytime soon.

Any news on his son?

**Chipmunk McPaul** · 2011-10-20

There's some Al-Jazeera vids going about, showing a dead gadaffi being dragged onto a pickup.

The transitional council has also officially declared him dead, looks likt that's it.

**Todd** · 2011-10-20

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**true** · 2011-10-20

The spice must flow

**Fartman** · 2011-10-20

where were all of his hot chick bodyguards when this shit went down?

**somedude76** · 2011-10-20

Most definitive pic I've seen so far.

**Barry Zuckerkorn** · 2011-10-20

Minus the blood he looks, well like he always did.

**Grath** · 2011-10-20

God damn, that is getting your ass beat

**Some Market Dude** · 2011-10-20

I want to go out like that, no joke. Some bloody pulp beaten by the angry hordes over whom I lived a life of brutal and degenerate corruption.

Fucking hero.

**Phineas Freak** · 2011-10-21

**Atticus** · 2011-10-21

Decent summary of yesterday's events by Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79K43S20111021

**Glomp** · 2011-10-21

Saddam, Osama and now old Mad Dog. Who is next on the western Boogie Man list?

**Grim** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Glomp

Saddam, Osama and now old Mad Dog. Who is next on the western Boogie Man list?

Syria is still pretty up in the air, but I would really like the Ayatollah to happen ~soon as well.

**Atticus** · 2011-10-21

Kim is going to cack soon I bet.

**Fartman** · 2011-10-21

and Kim Jr. is basically the north korean equivalent of a goon, so that will be amusing to watch

**Glomp** · 2011-10-21

Is he protected?

**somedude76** · 2011-10-21

Yes I would figure. China doesn't want a bunch N Korean refugees.

**Some Market Dude** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by somedude76

Yes I would figure. China doesn't want a bunch N Korean refugees.

I'm not global politics expert, but this was my impression of what honestly props up the NK regime. China just doesn't want to deal with the fallout (there already are serious border issues).

**somedude76** · 2011-10-21

It's my understanding that the only reason N. Korea exists is because of the Chinese(with material backing provided by the Soviet Union).

China is quite happy to have N.K. there to shake things up for the US it seems to me.

**Kelmurdoch** · 2011-10-21

North Korea is a bogeyman that exists because it was useful during the Cold War. Now it only exists because unmaking and reuniting it with South Korea would make German reunification look like a walk in the proverbial park. Not that doing so will get easier as time goes on, but there you are.

And if we're going to vote for the next despot to fall mine clearly falls with Syria. Their support for Hezbollah adds that much more tinder to the Levant, and a final settlement in that region all the more difficult.

**Grim** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by somedude76

It's my understanding that the only reason N. Korea exists is because of the Chinese(with material backing provided by the Soviet Union).

China is quite happy to have N.K. there to shake things up for the US it seems to me.

They keep NK on a pretty short leash. Some rabbling is allowed, but the last thing they want is a larger US presence in the area.

**somedude76** · 2011-10-21

Uniting North and South Korea would be impossible the way things are right now. NK is so brainwashed, isolated and fucked up. It would be like trying to mix water and oil.

**Desert Punk** · 2011-10-21

Satellite Photo of North Korea at night that big black area right there, China to the north, South Korea the bottom bit Japan bottom right.

Attachment 1872

North Korea's a country stuck in the 1950's while the rest of the world progresses, the country is basically a ticking time bomb that's going to explode one day but no one really wants to deal with that mess of a problem. The International community is quite happy to let the status quo continue. A sad state of affairs indeed the picture says it all really.

**Night** · 2011-10-22

The line is really for emphasis, however if you were imagine it as the lights on the border fence that wouldn't be terribly wrong either.

**Night** · 2011-10-22

On the other hand as someone with an amateur astronomy habit I commend Kim-Jong Il on his battle against light pollution and his commitment to ensuring that the (starving) children of his country are able to (not actually due to malnutrition) see the stars.

**somedude76** · 2011-10-22

Originally Posted by Desert Punk

North Korea's a country stuck in the 1950's while the rest of the world progresses, the country is basically a ticking time bomb that's going to explode one day but no one really wants to deal with that mess of a problem. The International community is quite happy to let the status quo continue. A sad state of affairs indeed the picture says it all really.

You really understate the situation IMO. If you look into it a bit more you'll see that NK is a real communist bizzaro land. There are hints of some pretty awful prison camps there too. There was an article I read recently, accompanied with a satellite photo, that claimed to be some of the first pictures of one of these alleged prison camps. The conditions are rumored to be horrible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eny-exist.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...ical_prisoners

The internment camps are located in central and northeastern North Korea. They comprise many prison labor colonies in secluded mountain valleys, completely isolated from the outside world. The total number of prisoners is estimated to be 150,000 to 200,000.^[44] Yodok camp and Bukchang camp are separated into two sections: One section for political prisoners in lifelong detention, another part similar to re-education camps with prisoners sentenced to long-term imprisonment with the vague hope of eventual release.
The prisoners are forced to perform hard and dangerous slave work with primitive means in mining and agriculture. The food rations are very small, so that the prisoners are constantly on the brink of starvation. In combination with the hard work this leads to huge numbers of prisoners dying. An estimated 40% of prisoners die from malnutrition.^[45] Moreover many prisoners are crippled from work accidents, frostbite or torture. There is a rigid punishment in the camp. Prisoners that work too slow or do not obey an order are beaten or tortured.^[46] In case of stealing food or attempting to escape, the prisoners are publicly executed.

You can find more articles if you look around.

**Atticus** · 2011-10-24

I meant he'd cack - as in expire, die of old age, etc...

**Grim** · 2011-10-24

The UN is going to investigate how Gadhafi died, and the current government is being accused of human rights abuses against Gadhafi loyalists (a lot of them are turning with holes in the back of their heads)

**Atticus** · 2011-10-24

I expected human rights abuses would come to light when I read about them branding every black African as a Gaddafi supporter because he hired some black mercs.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2011-10-24

Is anyone surprised that there'd be recriminations or that many would be done on a false basis?

It'll get better, though. They'll soon be a Sharia state. Life is perfect where Sharia law is followed.

**Grim** · 2011-10-24

Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous

Is anyone surprised that there'd be recriminations or that many would be done on a false basis?

It'll get better, though. They'll soon be a Sharia state. Life is perfect where Sharia law is followed.

Its amazing how simple life is when thieves get their hands cut off and women are stoned to death for appearing in public unescorted.

Good times, good times.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2011-10-24

Originally Posted by Grim

Its amazing how simple life is when thieves get their hands cut off and women are stoned to death for appearing in public unescorted.

Good times, good times.

I like the idea of honor killings the best. Hit it, quit it, and make sure daddy knows so you don't have to worry about an unwanted kid.

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