[devpost] winter expansion info

**Night** · 2011-10-20

Originally Posted by Iratus

The only relevant question we need to ask, regarding the hybrid buff is: Will the incursus become the new rifter?

I fully support this product and/or service.

Also it'd be nice to go back to the Enyo all these years later and cry tears of joy at its murderous nature again.

**Jed** · 2011-10-21

Good to CCP actually putting their money where their mouth is. I was skeptical reading Hilmar's bawww post. Between this and trimming the WoD dead weight, they're finally back on track.

**Marivauder** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by CCP Navigator

Let me give you guys a little more information on what is coming. Starting next week we will be producing a series of 'In Development' video blogs which will look at what the various teams are planning for Winter 2011. I want to stress that these videos will not contain release dates as we are aiming to provide a lot of stuff and do not want to commit to a date we cannot keep. These will include:

Engine trails - Yes, that's right we are adding engine trails to EVE and we will show the work in progress so far.

New ships - Recently we featured a shot of the Tornado, the Deviant Art contest winner, on the EVE Facebook page. We were not happy with just giving out one ship so we will be showcasing all four new ships.

New nebulae - These new background sin the EVE universe are stunningly beautiful and will add to the immersion and feeling of being in deep space.

Team BFF - This team should be Best Features Fullstop and CCP Soundwave will give an overview of what his team has in store. Capital ship balancing, balancing hybrids, assault ships bonuses and much more will be added during winter.

Customer Relations - The Lead GM's will talk about changes to how petitions are handled, more options for Stuck petitions and how we aim to deal with your issues as fast as possible.

We are not just going to stop there. We will bring you more video blogs about what is in development for EVE Online.

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**Sezja** · 2011-10-21

I can't wait for the collective sigh of dejection when they make the Assault ships bonus related to Dust, or something equally retarded.

I want to fly a jag, wolf, or ishkur unironically.

**Carlton Banks** · 2011-10-21

The jag is a good ship now, go fly it you paragon of WIdot cowardice.

**teds** · 2011-10-21

most of the AF's and faction frigs are decent atm, even the hybrid ones (sort-of)

AF's are a bit slow i guess, but most of the problem is 'because of dramiel'

**Marivauder** · 2011-10-21

I wonder how the taranis will be, with the hybrid balancing and the assault ship changes

**teds** · 2011-10-21

if the AF changes are just '+1 midslot to the retribution', i'll be satisfied.

**Alizandro Goderaski** · 2011-10-21

Careful with boosting small blasters, ccp. Don't want to have the enyo completely smash the wolf in almost every situation.

**Wusti** · 2011-10-21

I have no problem with that at all - you should be flying a Jag not a Wolf anyway.

**Alizandro Goderaski** · 2011-10-21

But the wolf is a much more exciting ship to fly.

**Czeris** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

any info about the new ships?

Tech 3 Mackinaws with a passive module that instantly triples shield hitpoints when attacked, but only for 6 seconds.

**Rer** · 2011-10-21

'The Mittani Module'

**foobaloo** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Czeris

Tech 3 Mackinaws with a passive module that instantly triples shield hitpoints when attacked, but only for 6 seconds.

And to go with it, a new T3 ice miner module that summons Concord at the beginning of each cycle.

**DavidKMagnus** · 2011-10-21

New Devblog about the ship Released Today: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3001

Will be Tier 3 Battlecruisers that use Battleship sized guns.
I wouldn't be surprised if CCP took a look at the Welpfleet and decided to help make it easier to kill supers when they were designing this ship. They would turn out to be like a mix of Goon/CFC Welpfleet Hurricanes and PL Herocat Tempests.

**Traakile** · 2011-10-21

I'm amazed that they actually implemented more battlecruisers and ones with large guns of all options. There were a big bunch of similar ideas being thrown around when they held the contest.
I'm ashamed to admit this but I can't wait for winter to come.

**Jm24** · 2011-10-21

I can't wait to fit a cloak and ganglink on bs dps.

**Jm24** · 2011-10-21

Gonna be op as fuckkkk

**voodooidol** · 2011-10-21

You just know these are going to be insanely overpowered.

**jimmychrist** · 2011-10-21

I liked the web bonus BS thing. Would be fun to have more options when you consider what ships to bring for a small gang get-together other than bcs.

**Kelmurdoch** · 2011-10-21

Can someone link the new devblog for us corporate minions behind a firewall?

**Ragelle** · 2011-10-21

So just thinking a bit: Large Guns and high speed / distance management

Should I be investing in tracking computers and tracking enhancers? The DPS numbers on EFT will look good but this doesn't look to be a slam dunk ship that is IWIN without some skills in flying. Although a head-on charge by a drake fleet might be fun to shoot at.

As we have hinted at, the Tornado, originally designed by dreamwa1ker from Deviant Art, is warping into the 2011 winter expansion...and it‘s bringing friends.

We couldn‘t just give the Minmatar a new ship and leave the other factions out (NPC military escalation doesn’t work like that), so, in the spririt of mutually assured destruction, each of the factions have sent their best engineers and scientists to the drafting boards and will also be rolling out a new tier 3 battlecruiser.
„But isn‘t the Tornado a battleship?“
According to the original concept it was, yes. But when reviewing the armadas of existing ships we came to the conclusion that it would make much more sense to add another tier of battlecruisers instead of a fourth battleship tier, and that the accessibility of bc skills would mean more of these ships might be in the hands of younger, brasher pilots. That means more pew pew pew overall.
What sets these new battlecruisers apart from their lower tier cousins?
The most unique thing about them is that they will be able to fit battleship-sized weapons. Yes, you heard correctly... battlecruisers with oversized guns.
They will be capable of similar damage output as a battleship but obviously all that damage comes at a price.They won‘t be able to tank like a battleship, but what they lack in the tanking department the right pilot should be able to somewhat make up for with speed and distance management. Those looking to start minmaxing fleets of TÖTALHELLDEATH will have to wait a bit for the stats.

The concept is; violent, fast and fun.
In the following weeks we will be introducing the Tornado‘s three counterparts. Stay tuned!

**syndic thrass** · 2011-10-21

Assault Frigate 5 crew, checking in.

Hilariously, fixing this whole "its not the guns its that the ships are slow as fuck" idea would make the Enyo amazing.

**HeliconOne** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Kelmurdoch

Can someone link the new devblog for us corporate minions behind a firewall?

ship-troduction: the minmatar tornado
reported by CCP Guard | 2011.10.21 15:13:57 | NEW | Comments
As we have hinted at, the Tornado, originally designed by dreamwa1ker from Deviant Art, is warping into the 2011 winter expansion...and it‘s bringing friends.

We couldn‘t just give the Minmatar a new ship and leave the other factions out (NPC military escalation doesn’t work like that), so, in the spririt of mutually assured destruction, each of the factions have sent their best engineers and scientists to the drafting boards and will also be rolling out a new tier 3 battlecruiser.
„But isn‘t the Tornado a battleship?“
According to the original concept it was, yes. But when reviewing the armadas of existing ships we came to the conclusion that it would make much more sense to add another tier of battlecruisers instead of a fourth battleship tier, and that the accessibility of bc skills would mean more of these ships might be in the hands of younger, brasher pilots. That means more pew pew pew overall.
What sets these new battlecruisers apart from their lower tier cousins?
The most unique thing about them is that they will be able to fit battleship-sized weapons. Yes, you heard correctly... battlecruisers with oversized guns.
They will be capable of similar damage output as a battleship but obviously all that damage comes at a price.They won‘t be able to tank like a battleship, but what they lack in the tanking department the right pilot should be able to somewhat make up for with speed and distance management. Those looking to start minmaxing fleets of TÖTALHELLDEATH will have to wait a bit for the stats.

The concept is; violent, fast and fun.
In the following weeks we will be introducing the Tornado‘s three counterparts. Stay tuned!

**foobaloo** · 2011-10-21

welpfleets are going to be a lot more fun

**Weaselior** · 2011-10-21

ccp has heard the cries of highsec to nerf suicide ganking and given us a ship that is so well designed for suicide ganking that i'm already salivating over it

**Grim** · 2011-10-21

I wonder how they are going to make the gallente one not be a pile of shit. Or the caldari one for that matter.

**John Caffeine** · 2011-10-21

This seems to be part of CCP's supercap nerf, giving the masses new and affordable BCs with oversized guns to run welpfleets with.

**Weaselior** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Grim

I wonder how they are going to make the gallente one not be a pile of shit. Or the caldari one for that matter.

the brutix owns, they just make it the brutix but with bigger guns and we make the ice interdiction look like the good old days

**Grim** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by John Caffeine

This seems to be part of CCP's supercap nerf, giving the masses new and affordable BCs with oversized guns to run welpfleets with.

Just as the crossbow gave the peasants the ability to fight the nobility this will give the pubbies the ability to defeat ~elitepvp.

**Grath** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Grim

I wonder how they are going to make the gallente one not be a pile of shit. Or the caldari one for that matter.

Are you serious?? A BC sized torp platform?

**Grim** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Grath

Are you serious?? A BC sized torp platform?

Unless its a BC sized railgun or cruise missiles only platform.

Torp would be great, just pointing out that this is CCP we are talking about.

**Weaselior** · 2011-10-21

seriously highsec is going to burn with this: you've got fleets of goons who trained hurricanes or brutixes, suddenly let loose with a cheap battleship level dps platform

no freighter, hulk, or orca will survive

(making these is gonna be hella profitable)

**Aurora148** · 2011-10-21

even though the are technically battlecruisers, I bet that they will cost the same as (or more than) a Tier 1 battleship once the price is stable.

**Vinata** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Grim

I wonder how they are going to make the gallente one not be a pile of shit. Or the caldari one for that matter.

They're going to not make the gallente one a piece of shit by giving it the ability to fit battleship blasters on a battlecruiser.

**John Caffeine** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Aurora148

even though the are technically battlecruisers, I bet that they will cost the same as (or more than) a Tier 1 battleship once the price is stable.

Well Tier2 BCs have a pricetag of about 30M, with Tier1 BSs costing 50-60M. So the Tier3 BCs will probably be 40-50M, which would make the price difference between Tier1 and Tier2 BCs slightly less than the difference between Tier2 and Tier3.

**jimmychrist** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Vinata

They're going to not make the gallente one a piece of shit by giving it the ability to fit battleship blasters on a battlecruiser.

If only they weren't gonna rebalance hybrids at the same time I guess we could have found out if it was the hulls or the weapon types...

**penifSMASH** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Jm24

Gonna be op as fuckkkk

nano it out and stick a cloak on it and you got the perfect blops ship

**Vinata** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by jimmychrist

If only they weren't gonna rebalance hybrids at the same time I guess we could have found out if it was the hulls or the weapon types...

Can't wait for CCP to fuck up blasters.

**foobaloo** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by Vinata

They're going to not make the gallente one a piece of shit by giving it the ability to fit battleship blasters on a battlecruiser.

And enough bandwidth to drop a full flight of heavy drones.

**Mikhail** · 2011-10-21

Have they made any mention of unfucking the Proteus and it's drone subsystem?

**foobaloo** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by CCP Navigator

Following the announcement by CCP Manifest on Wednesday, October 19 concerning the goals of CCP and the downsizing of staff, it became clear to many players that the EVE Community team was one of those affected. The loss of our colleagues, friends and mentors has saddened us greatly and we wish them all the very best for the future.So what is happening with the Community team now? Will players see less communication from CCP on the development of EVE?
Absolutely not. The Community team has merged with Customer Support to create the Customer Relations wing of CCP. Hilmar, the CEO of CCP, recently stated in an interview with Eurogamer, ‘ By centralizing customer support and community we have more people doing community work than we did before. Being co-located with the developers allows the information within the community groups to have a much more direct effect on the development process.’ The Community team are now located in our Reykjavik office and will be working closely with every development team to ensure that players are kept up to date with what is coming to EVE.
Over the next couple of weeks we will bring you a series of short video blogs which will focus on work in progress and what is in development for EVE Online. We will be increasing our communication with players on the EVE forums, EVE Twitter and EVE Facebook pages, and making sure that the increased communication momentum you’ve witnessed is maintained. We will be working closely with all departments to bring you Dev Blogs, expansion notes and up to date news. We are going to open Russian and German forum sections to help support our localized clients. We will maintain close relationships with our Fansites and be available to talk to them as usual. Several weeks ago we also started planning for the return of a volunteer moderator program. This plan is still in the design stage and we hope to bring you a blog on it in the coming weeks. The new volunteer moderator team will have a different role than before and will not be in a position to ban other players accounts or see any alts. We understand that this is something players are concerned about so we will be providing you with a very in depth blog explaining their role over the coming weeks.
CCP Guard, CCP Shadow, CCP Spitfire, CCP Phantom and myself are here and committed to providing you with the best level of service. We will maintain a high profile in all sections of the forums and will monitor for issues that are effecting your game play and report them to the correct department. We will gather feedback on issues which players are passionate about and send them to the teams responsible.
We would like to thank you in advance for your support while we work through these difficult times.
The EVE Community team.

I, for one, cannot wait for Xutech's interview with Hilmar.

**Jm24** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

nano it out and stick a cloak on it and you got the perfect blops ship

I hope it has a spare high for a skirmish link, get those insane tackles yo. Now where is the angel interdictor

**Skabbor** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by John Caffeine

This seems to be part of CCP's supercap nerf, giving the masses new and affordable BCs with oversized guns to run welpfleets with.

First thing I thought of when I read that devblog was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerjäger

Superjäger fleets coming right up?

**Vinata** · 2011-10-21

Originally Posted by foobaloo

I, for one, cannot wait for Xutech's interview with Hilmar.

He's trying.

**poaw** · 2011-10-21

LOL, stealth nerf to Drake fleets. But a boost to flying tackle now that entire fleets won't be flying ships that can halfway track your frig and instapop you.

Although now I have to train all the large guns to V.