a dance with dragons

[John Smith]

Bawler

[Fartman]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/58550/

[Mulla Nasrudin]

Massive spoilers

so as an avid poster to several other ASOIAF forums the general consensus seems to be that Jon snow is "dead" but by no means finished in terms of being a character. He seems to be the leading candidate for being the true azor azhai reborn, which allows him multiple angles of being alive but dead. That's not including the warg aspect.Most seem to accept stannis as dead but that's by no means a generally accepted consensus.Dany, being infected by the flux is in serious argument still.

In the Melissandre POV, she mentions she doesn't need to drink, doesn't feel cold, etc... and she survived poison.

[Mulla Nasrudin]

After reading this book I'm going to have a very hard time not rhyming people's names in my head. e.g. Phreese, Phreese it rhymes with sneeze. and so forth.

Mine rhymes with irony, agony, felony, gluttony...

[Mulla Nasrudin]

Oh I didn't realize we had a dedicated thread over here too. Might as well move this here:

Now that I'm done reading it and have another five year wait in front of me to resolve the numerous cliffhangers (maybe), I'd say this one was better than book four but not as good as book three. Very massive spoilers:

Jon's chapters were good. I don't believe the end for one second. It doesn't fit Martin's pattern for POV characters and there's way too much detail of what is going on up there with no other POV character to exploit it.

Daenarys's chapters were okay besides the constant hmming and hawing over who she wanted to fuck. In book three she was starting to resemble a Stackpole character - always best at everything and everything always working out in her favor. It was good to see that all fall to pieces.

Tyrion's chapters were meh, not as good as he was in two and three. The Jon Connington stuff came out of left field; I'll have to reread to be sure but I don't think there was even a hint that there was another Targaryen alive before that.

As noted above, Bran's chapters ended early with little happening.

Making up for it were Theon's chapters though they also stopped after a while; still, for the first half of the book he was probably the star.

The two Arya chapters were a nice nod to showing us things were still progressing as expected there.

Jaime's chapter was a throwaway and the plotline went dead quiet afterwards; we replaced Brienne's cliffhanger with his.

Also disappearing halfway through with a hung plotline was Davos. Bring back the onion knight!

It was nice to humiliate Cersei a bit but nothing was resolved.

As for the minor POV characters, Asha chapters were decent enough, Victarion's were pointless since he has about as much chance of having any impact on the story as Penny's pig, Quentyn was a disappointment, Barristan's seemed out of character for him.

Totally unseen: Samwell and Sansa; no hints of either as well. Also missing Marwyn who was supposedly heading for Daenarys.

All in all a good book though I have a hard time being happy with an author leaving that many (and severe) cliffhangers when books are as long in coming as they are with GRRM. But yes, of course I'll buy book six the day it comes out... assuming any of us are even still alive at that point.

I like all the hidden events and plots...

Ramsay gelded Theon, the Manderly Frey pie, Connington is gay, John Snow being the son of Lyanna/Raegar.

[Mulla Nasrudin]

I started reading the Dunk and Egg stories that are set 100 years before GoT. Anyone read those?

[Atticus]

My attention span has drifted from Game of Thrones to Chuck Palahniuk books

[Manfred Hideous]

I feel kinda ripped off. I read the all of the current books over a couple of weeks before I saw authordudes pic. He'll be dead before the next book is published and I'll have a massive case of bookworm blueballs.

[Atticus]

I hope he has kids who can decypher his notes and just write books after he cacks.

[Mulla Nasrudin]

Didn't Roger Zelazny die before finishing Amber?

[Manfred Hideous]

It's more than that. I guess I'm a bit peeved that he seems incapable of taking care of loose threads. His first books were tightly woven and shocking in the way main chars were killed off (I mean that as a compliment) but now he seems intent on stretching out every storyline for ages.

Maybe he's intentionally trolling us and the punchline is he dies and writes a fuck you to all of us in his will.

Actually, I could respect that. Am I twisted for thinking that would be cool?

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

I truly hope he has a safety deposit box that is only accessible by his kids after he dies that has every last detail of what happens in ASOIAF in it. And I have the weirdest feeling that he does have one.. but there's only one piece of paper.. with one sentence on it.. that says.. "haha thanks for the cash fuck you all"

[Mulla Nasrudin]

Just finished the Hedge Knight. It was really cool! I am going to read the two other novels.

[Fartman]

The 63rd Primetime Emmy Awards have begun on Fox! And the winners are:
Outstanding supporting actor, drama: Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones

[Pripyat]

He looks so sad holding that thing.

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

He didn't want the emmy for supporting character.

[Fartman]

He looks so sad holding that thing.

he was thinking to himself, "I may have won an Emmy, but i'm still a dwarf, and the Emmy is almost as tall as I am."

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

All "Supporting" Emmy's are bastards in their owners eyes.

[Manfred Hideous]

he was thinking to himself, "I may have won an Emmy, but i'm still a dwarf, and the Emmy is almost as tall as I am."

Pretty much what I thought.

[Vinata]

I truly hope he has a safety deposit box that is only accessible by his kids after he dies that has every last detail of what happens in ASOIAF in it. And I have the weirdest feeling that he does have one.. but there's only one piece of paper.. with one sentence on it.. that says.. "haha thanks for the cash fuck you all"

He doesn't have any kids, and he has already said he doesn't want anyone to finish the books if he dies before they're done. He's also said his will includes a statement to make sure that all of his notes about the books will be burned.

[Atticus]

He doesn't have any kids, and he has already said he doesn't want anyone to finish the books if he dies before they're done. He's also said his will includes a statement to make sure that all of his notes about the books will be burned.

Where there's money, there's a way.

[Mulla Nasrudin]

He didn't want the emmy for supporting character.

Best dwarf character is not so bad.

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

He doesn't have any kids, and he has already said he doesn't want anyone to finish the books if he dies before they're done. He's also said his will includes a statement to make sure that all of his notes about the books will be burned.

Wow.

[Vinata]

He's an absolute fucker.

[Fartman]

He's an absolute fucker.

[Fartman]

http://www.cyanide-studio.com/games/agot/

[Fartman]

[xutech]

Kafka wanted his papers burned too. Didn't happen.

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[Propagandas]

No shit the author is a total dick, he has tried to sue people for making fanfiction about his characters.

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

Genesis really is awful

[Fartman]

Genesis really is awful

confirming dis

[Fartman]

Excerpt from THE WINDS OF WINTER
by George R. R. Martin

http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

[Carlton Banks]

Ha look how shitty and small that game map is.

[StevieTopSiders]

Started reading the series over break due to boredom and Memory of Light being pushed further and further back into 2012.

Having just finished Game of Thrones, I feel as if only one more book is needed to wrap everything up, but judging by your guys' reviews, there are plenty of plot-extenders to come. ):

[Grim]

Yup. Basically he adds a few new characters each book, and makes some previously minor characters POV characters to stretch it out.

[Traakile]

I watched the first season of the TV series without reading the books first, knowing I should've read them first. Now I'm torn between buying all the books and marathoning through them or waiting for the TV series to play out and to get a "semi-spoiler free" experience.

From past experiences the books always feel a lot more intensive than the movies.

[Scroobius Pip]

Buy all the books then spend the next 6 years moaning/complimenting the production as the series comes out.

To be honest the first series was pretty good & faithful to the book. It's going to be interesting to see how they deal with what's coming on later.

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

I watched the first season of the TV series without reading the books first, knowing I should've read them first. Now I'm torn between buying all the books and marathoning through them or waiting for the TV series to play out and to get a "semi-spoiler free" experience.

From past experiences the books always feel a lot more intensive than the movies.

You'll miss so much stuff by just watching it. I read it and now appreciate the series (better?) as I can view and laugh at messups HBO causes with the plot (i.e. in the first book a dothraki dude dies, he's still alive in the series)

[Carlton Banks]

I saw the first season and it inspired me to read the books, including the first one. They aren't terribly well written - I think I enjoyed them more by allowing HBO to create the world for me first. You should read them.

[Carlton Banks]

And the dothraki dude does die in the series,

dany kills him just as in the book,

what are you talking about?

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

And the dothraki dude does die in the series,

dany kills him just as in the book,

what are you talking about?

Might have been the other way around then (he lives in books, dies in hbo). I could have sworn this was one of the big problems GRRM had with the tv series.

[John Smith]

Might have been the other way around then (he lives in books, dies in hbo). I could have sworn this was one of the big problems GRRM had with the tv series.

Nope, he dies in both.

edit: They did compress danys three guards into 1 character though. Perhaps that is what you are thinking of?

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Mago

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

Game of Thrones, Renly's Armor: http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/p...l?cmpid=ABC794

[StevieTopSiders]

Just finished Book Two, and it is beginning to read like a Wheel of Time prologue novel or something. Does this mean GRRM is copying Robert Jordan, or are they both copying some earlier fantasy author whom I have yet to read?

[Mulla Nasrudin]

Just finished Book Two, and it is beginning to read like a Wheel of Time prologue novel or something. Does this mean GRRM is copying Robert Jordan, or are they both copying some earlier fantasy author whom I have yet to read?

Numerous parallels have been drawn between the events and characters in A Song of Ice and Fire and events and people involved in the Wars of the Roses. Two of the principal families in A Song of Ice and Fire, the Starks and the Lannisters, are seen as representing the historical House of York and House of Lancaster, respectively.

I've watched Richard II recently it was really good.

[StevieTopSiders]

I've watched Richard II recently it was really good.

Richard II was my favorite of the "History" Shakespeare plays I have read.

Beyond the storyline, however, I feel as if the universe is very much the same. The wolves are reminiscent of Perrin, the squabbling amongst kings as winter/The Dark One prepare for invasion, the Dothraki are sort of like the Aiel, etc. Now that I try to list them, I don't really see as many parallels as I thought, but still, the two are very similar.