And to think for a while there MM and BL had shitposting advantage.
And to think for a while there MM and BL had shitposting advantage.
Look, everybody in this game is trying to get done what they want to get done. It's only natural that they do so. We all want to do what we want to do in this game, right? So here's how I see things:
Delve had stability for a short while -- several NIP alliances who could hunt each other for good PVP without having to worry too much about their Sov. This was mostly Test, convicted, Gents and Nulli. Then TEST [and I'm not sure if I'm right about this] had to pretty much abandon its Delve space to head north and help out the goons, who are the lead dog in that goon coalition. This makes sense. You have to respond to your strong allies when they need your assistance. MM and Brick had perhaps already been eyeing Delve as a possible new 0.0 home after completely losing their Sov in the North. So, MM starts to base out of Delve NPC 0.0 and Brick begins claiming some mostly-uninhabited systems in northern Delve. Now, how should the inhabitants of the rest of Delve react? You have an alliance -- MM -- that was a major player in the north for a long time and is now coming into your region with unknown ambitions. With a vacuum in some of the Delve-core systems (left by Test) it would seem reasonable to assume that MM would start looking to claim Sov. Indeed, they were working closely with Brick, who had already begun claiming Sov, so what was the rest of Delve to think?
Now, when someone new comes into your region and starts claiming systems you had better assess the threat. What was very recently a major alliance -- MM -- had already shown the ability to hold a large segment of space for a very long time. If you allow them to get a foothold and some stability with sovereignty in your region there is a good chance they could just grow stronger and stronger with time. The right reaction? Attempt to squash the threat. By any means necessary. Does that mean cutting a deal with BORG? Why not? Does that mean banding together with the guys you are usually killing in "ThunderDelve?" Sounds like a good idea to me. Does that mean calling in Red Overlord, FAtlas and Triple-A to give yourself the best chance at victory, to purge Delve of unwanted foreign Sov efforts? Absolutely.
Nulli Secunda and the rest of the Southwest are banding together to keep a potentially powerful and unpredictable element from establishing itself in the area and upsetting the previously-desirable conditions. I am certain that once MM and Brick are defeated (and right now it looks like they will be) the remaining Delve alliances will resume their NIP and begin killing each other again.
My main point is that crying about calling in assistance to help you meet your objectives is ludicrous. Everyone in the game does it when they need to. No one stands alone and holds Sov. I mean for Christ's sake, Morsus Mihi had no problems being part of a large coalition when it was for their benefit, but now it's somehow not right for their new adversaries to form one?
Also, while we are the western wing of the Triple-A bloc, maybe we should have our own nickname. Southwest Airlines?
Do you need to borrow about 5 or 6 from MM? Just saying is all.Originally Posted by Mfume
And just when this thread was giving me a headache, this glorious poster shows his head.
Do you see your shadow friend? Because I'd sure like you to stick around.
[B]I PAID 25 EUROS FOR A SIG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS SHITTY TROLL ATTEMPT[/B]
Also confirming that BL are terrified to fight Nulli. Their 'real fleet' is too much to handle.
[B]I PAID 25 EUROS FOR A SIG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS SHITTY TROLL ATTEMPT[/B]
I don't think hes one of us, oh well.
Because BL have no honoure, you see
e: goddammit progod you faggot
[B]I PAID 25 EUROS FOR A SIG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS SHITTY TROLL ATTEMPT[/B]
Christ, it's like we need to start the thread over again by page 5.
Actually Wusti is way more chill than I thought he would be right now
he got kicked out of geminate and now delve he knows how to handle the pain
Opti is rounding on 1000 excellent posts soon my friends, should we not throw him a celebration?
Just when I thought this horrible thread was going to get more terrible, this guy comes in to save it from being a complete shit thread. Thank god there are at least a few non shitposters on these forums.
if atticus got the OP, thread wouldn't be bad
just saying
1000 soon and still thirsty
If you want a NIP so bad, move to NPC sov. Its the exact same thing.
I believe this thread can only be saved by new riverini killmail. Someone should kill him before everything goes to hell. Who shall be that white knight?
CCP Greyscale Wrote: People live in Outer Ring.Kesper North: my point is there are a ton of things you can do in eve that don't involve dumping supers on mouthbreathing idiots like valor empireMontolio: I actually have a huge crush on S2N
I think you should just blue each other in your fight against Riverini.He's the real Enemy here.
Yes let the hate flow through you to create the next phase of the eternal war
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There is no hope for this thread.
So
So good
WALLLook, everybody in this game is trying to get done what they want to get done. It's only natural that they do so. We all want to do what we want to do in this game, right? So here's how I see things:
Delve had stability for a short while -- several NIP alliances who could hunt each other for good PVP without having to worry too much about their Sov. This was mostly Test, convicted, Gents and Nulli. Then TEST [and I'm not sure if I'm right about this] had to pretty much abandon its Delve space to head north and help out the goons, who are the lead dog in that goon coalition. This makes sense. You have to respond to your strong allies when they need your assistance. MM and Brick had perhaps already been eyeing Delve as a possible new 0.0 home after completely losing their Sov in the North. So, MM starts to base out of Delve NPC 0.0 and Brick begins claiming some mostly-uninhabited systems in northern Delve. Now, how should the inhabitants of the rest of Delve react? You have an alliance -- MM -- that was a major player in the north for a long time and is now coming into your region with unknown ambitions. With a vacuum in some of the Delve-core systems (left by Test) it would seem reasonable to assume that MM would start looking to claim Sov. Indeed, they were working closely with Brick, who had already begun claiming Sov, so what was the rest of Delve to think?
Now, when someone new comes into your region and starts claiming systems you had better assess the threat. What was very recently a major alliance -- MM -- had already shown the ability to hold a large segment of space for a very long time. If you allow them to get a foothold and some stability with sovereignty in your region there is a good chance they could just grow stronger and stronger with time. The right reaction? Attempt to squash the threat. By any means necessary. Does that mean cutting a deal with BORG? Why not? Does that mean banding together with the guys you are usually killing in "ThunderDelve?" Sounds like a good idea to me. Does that mean calling in Red Overlord, FAtlas and Triple-A to give yourself the best chance at victory, to purge Delve of unwanted foreign Sov efforts? Absolutely.
Nulli Secunda and the rest of the Southwest are banding together to keep a potentially powerful and unpredictable element from establishing itself in the area and upsetting the previously-desirable conditions. I am certain that once MM and Brick are defeated (and right now it looks like they will be) the remaining Delve alliances will resume their NIP and begin killing each other again.
My main point is that crying about calling in assistance to help you meet your objectives is ludicrous. Everyone in the game does it when they need to. No one stands alone and holds Sov. I mean for Christ's sake, Morsus Mihi had no problems being part of a large coalition when it was for their benefit, but now it's somehow not right for their new adversaries to form one?
Also, while we are the western wing of the Triple-A bloc, maybe we should have our own nickname. Southwest Airlines?
ITT: BL finally gets mad. Everything is wrong. Oh noes! Go on and cry, enjoying every little bit of it.
Reading us like a book
Sigged himself retarded.
We MM and RMT sat in 5c reinforcing an IHUB for about 2 hours with a 140 man AHAC from Fail and Atlas roaming around delve but never coming to pew with us. The 2 engagements with BORG must not have given away our location and we were indeed blue balled expecting good fights. Hinata is pretty blue about the whole thing tbh and said he might not log in for another year now.
so B O R G...
Over the last few days the political scene has changed drastically.
As you are all aware there was a fallout between MM and us over MJX and the fact there 'pets' were trying to also take space in an already crowded Delve.
BR1CK we had no problem with, untill a few days ago one of there pos's was found mining one of our moons in 4K. They claim to have boght this moon off convicted (after we took the sov) and informed us the POS would not be coming down.
As you may or may not be aware BR1CK bought there sov from convicted. MM tried to buy sov but did not transfer funds so now you are seeing there intended sov transferring to nulli.
As it stands we are now neut to MM and BR1CK. We have temp blued some new alliances for the upcoming fight and plan to reset once we are done.
This mail is to just answer a few confused people untill the leadership team formulate a more detailed response.
Keep your ships ready and watch for fleets we have a fight ahead of us.Alright, time for a speech.
The leadership of the corp´s as well as our main fc´s allready know
most if not all of this, but as things stand, its probably
best to talk about what has happened in the past 1-2 weeks.
There had been a few proplems concerning some diplomatic relations with
MM that had not gone well, thus we were not as satisfied with the coalition as
could have been hoped for.
While some disgruntlement was brewing within leadership ranks over this, we had a offer
to get the Gent pocket uncontested if we would stop flying with MM and Bricks.
Since Gents had allready started evaccing and things were going quite well on our side we decided to graciously deny said offer.
What happened after said meeting between the CEO´s and Alliance leader was an email.
In said email MM took a stance that we did not like, it was worded in the manner of an overlord
to a pet, not an email between two allies.
I wont go into detail on said email, the person who sent it i have spoken to on a number of occasions
and i know this was more of a mistake rather then bad intentions, but said email
however it was meant had been sent, and it inflamed the situation further.
After holding another meeting it was decided we would cut relations and take said deal, since we at that point did not have any desire to fleet out with MM anyway.
Bricks however, had allways been easy to deal with, and after a discussion with Chib, i am quite sad that the relationship between BORG and Bricks has gone down this path.
Since this will very likely leak to Kugu and has been one of the reasons i have not sent out a speech untill things were quite concrete on what we would do, Chib, Vlade, TJ, best of luck in the future however this ends.
So what now ?
As most of you allready know unless you just logged in, BORG has joined the delve coalition, the major players in this coalition being Hun Reloaded, Nulli secunda, Atlas, Cascade, Chaot, and a few others.
The blue list is temporary between said alliances, untill MM and Bricks have been removed from the delve map.
After that we will go on to shoot eachother for some cheap friendly thrills and pvp fun under a NIP.
Aside from that, supercaps and subcaps alike, time to wake up, fc´s are in touch with the coalition and good fights are to be had by all.
If there are any questions or concerns, feel free to hit me up ingame.
Since this has become quite the trend, ill end this with..
-Resistance is futile-
'Goosebumps'
Soshy Iblush,
Col Dir.
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
` =! '
Come on guys
Another trend with our leadership being assholes. I saw how the FA situation was handled and I am only guessing a similar thing happened here.
I hope I am proven wrong.
Not a bad read.Look, everybody in this game is trying to get done what they want to get done. It's only natural that they do so. We all want to do what we want to do in this game, right?
So here's how I see things:
Delve had stability for a short while -- several NIP alliances who could hunt each other for good PVP without having to worry too much about their Sov. This was mostly Test, convicted, Gents and Nulli. Then TEST [and I'm not sure if I'm right about this] had to pretty much abandon its Delve space to head north and help out the goons, who are the lead dog in that goon coalition.
This makes sense. You have to respond to your strong allies when they need your assistance. MM and Brick had perhaps already been eyeing Delve as a possible new 0.0 home after completely losing their Sov in the North. So, MM starts to base out of Delve NPC 0.0 and Brick begins claiming some mostly-uninhabited systems in northern Delve. Now, how should the inhabitants of the rest of Delve react? You have an alliance -- MM -- that was a major player in the north for a long time and is now coming into your region with unknown ambitions. With a vacuum in some of the Delve-core systems (left by Test) it would seem reasonable to assume that MM would start looking to claim Sov. Indeed, they were working closely with Brick, who had already begun claiming Sov, so what was the rest of Delve to think?
Now, when someone new comes into your region and starts claiming systems you had better assess the threat. What was very recently a major alliance -- MM -- had already shown the ability to hold a large segment of space for a very long time. If you allow them to get a foothold and some stability with sovereignty in your region there is a good chance they could just grow stronger and stronger with time. The right reaction?
Attempt to squash the threat. By any means necessary. Does that mean cutting a deal with BORG? Why not? Does that mean banding together with the guys you are usually killing in "ThunderDelve?" Sounds like a good idea to me. Does that mean calling in Red Overlord, FAtlas and Triple-A to give yourself the best chance at victory, to purge Delve of unwanted foreign Sov efforts? Absolutely.
Nulli Secunda and the rest of the Southwest are banding together to keep a potentially powerful and unpredictable element from establishing itself in the area and upsetting the previously-desirable conditions. I am certain that once MM and Brick are defeated (and right now it looks like they will be) the remaining Delve alliances will resume their NIP and begin killing each other again.
My main point is that crying about calling in assistance to help you meet your objectives is ludicrous. Everyone in the game does it when they need to. No one stands alone and holds Sov. I mean for Christ's sake, Morsus Mihi had no problems being part of a large coalition when it was for their benefit, but now it's somehow not right for their new adversaries to form one?
Also, while we are the western wing of the Triple-A bloc, maybe we should have our own nickname. Southwest Airlines?
until you fire traitorjohn you will never become a true jedi master
LOl so the guy that actually wrote that post/mail to BORG believes in the thunder dome? and apparently he wants good fights after this is all over? from my understanding evoke are comming to delve to keep added pressure on nulli/cascade/atlas./hun while raiden/nc. are moving down with white noise to launch their attack(theres also speculation that PL are moving down to either delve or providence) .Very interesting times indeed.
:edit: Cranky old man are you seriously suggesting that -a- would move while they are now under attack by white noise + soon raiden/nc.
IF MM are to base out of npc stations for a few months and this supposed thunderdome cant continue until we leave the region, it would be fair to say that we are controlling your game is it not?
Wait wait so BORG left -A- to make a name for themselves, only to become -A- pets after receiving a naughty email from MM? Talk about irony overload.
I'm sort of sad to see them go though since they were p chill dudes, but they're also one of the few reds in delve now that actually fly something else than armor blobs, so this could be quite fun.
Also, just talked to some duders who were in the thunderdome before us refugees came down here. Their take on it was that it's alot more lively now: less goodfites against bloodraiders, more emo-raging nerds* and a pvp environment where the involved parties actually have something to lose now (sov for most, chillness for BL).
*: see the previous pages of this topic
The moment they chose BORG as an alliance name it was over
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
So roaming around a little bit today (0030-0130) and caught a BR1CK hoarder in 1-SMEB worth about 600M. Not to long after a fleet BR1CK pods bridge in and hit the gate going into Sakht. Moments later they bring out a mix scrub fleet, usual BR1CK stuff. Raven, Vagabonds, Sleipnir, Ceptors, Hurricanes, Legion, think I seen a proteus. They jump raven in and we quickly figure out it is bait as a fleet of about 10-12 hit our dscans and drop out of warp about 15 seconds later. Curse, Scimitars, Hurricanes, Vagabonds, ECM support, Drakes, Tempest, Harb, Rapier, Apoc. Soon after the Sakht squad jumps in... Other then the single hurricane loss, it was a smooth escape.
Confirming that brick is moving south to run Blood Raider missions in npc delve.
The pods and random scrub shit you described were most likely part of an event known as 'operation autobahn'.
"WE WILL USE SPELS" - Lee Chanka
Didn't all of eve give up on this fucked out term long ago? Let me fix this for you sir.
Or how about this way...
I don't care how you would have worded it. I stated it like it happened, isn't that what this thread was about?
But I guess your even more irrelevant post of how someone should articulate their posts is more important to the Delve community. v0v
inb4 negrep
Just so where clear my negrep was for the original post for the reason p8 stated hth
Advising a BL poster how to post is like telling them how to fly Muninns it's just madness!
You could say we're winning the isk war
Sigged himself retarded.
lol borg leaving AAA to become a pet of same alliance, is there some kind of meme for that?
ding bottom floor
if you want MM out come and rf our station in 1dh
+2 neo
Just a correction on this to the faithful readers of this thread, with some actual content instead of shit flinging.As you may or may not be aware BR1CK bought there sov from convicted. MM tried to buy sov but did not transfer funds so now you are seeing there intended sov transferring to nulli.
Once we decided that we would not be able to protect our sov solo in our own TZ, we made the decision to see if it was possibel to flog off our fixed assets like towers and sov infrastructure to re-coup some of that cost, and to minimise our profile as a target. We reached an agreement with Brick regarding towers firstly, to be followed by SPNZ sov with a second payment. A separate agreement was sought with MM which never eventuated (and as per agreement with Vlade I will allow that sleeping dog to lie).
However, given MM continued to ignore any such arrangements, I had a chat with Chib (who is a stand up bloke), and we decided to terminate the second tranche by mutual agreement. Brick only ended up with some Neo moons and towers for their part of the deal.
Following on from that I decided to give our remaining SPNZ constellation sov and station to Nulli Secunda as the (then) primary antagonist in the fight against MM.
During this time we successfully moved 95% of assets out of our contested space to our safe space a couple of jumps away, with the full intention of returning to the fray without being able to be pushed and pulled about with constant defensive and repair ops - which can be killers for a small alliance like ourselves.
Does that clear the air a bit? Hope so.
Opti talking about hitting the bottom. How quaint.
I see how you are implying MM are on some kind of sub basement level while I admit with vlade being bad we may still be on the 73rd floor, we aint ever gonna be that low yo
This is why you continue to attract the neg reps. MM is not better then any other alliance in this game about fake internet spaceships, exept maybe Test, Bruce and Majesta as it turns out. That opinion you are trying to make there is the reason half of eve if not more dislikes us as an alliance. If the rep gods saw fit to allow me to neg rep you again some time soon I would neg rep you for that post.
You need to get nerd rage out of them without the we are better then you yo I think I am gangster shit. Watch how pro posters like Elo and Dental Floss let Nulli know that they are not as good as them without saying you suck yo, we run this shit man. That is how to effectively cause nerd rage from Nulli and there space friends, not your drival. I hope this was constructive and you learned something here.
This must be some sort of good cop, bad cop routine. My mind refuses to accept humulity and self-understanding from MM. Maybe, just maybe, there is still room for them in Thunderdelve. PILLIOUS FOR MM EXECUTOR!
The second paragraph renders the humility from the first moot.
MM is just as shit as the rest of shit alliances in this shit game. But I wasn't talking about your alliance, I was talking about you.
Since you are my bff I will let you in on a little secret I want to be red I enjoy being red and my one wish in life is to be able to give neg rep while red
the only reason I keep reminding everyone how amazing MM are is because it makes them mad, which is the whole point of this forum
edit: tho i do have to strive daily with the trollin green rep brigade
A self-avowed shitposter. Bravo, sir, bravo.
I am glad for your post because it reminded me that I can have the forum not show me posts from particular dregs of anal seepage. I think that ignoring opti will increase my Kugu using pleasure by at least 24%.
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