Good night sweet sheikh

**true** · 2011-05-02

tldr: Bin Laden pwned by US sekret ninjas, Obama saved the world, Democracy everywhere

**Carlton Banks** · 2011-05-02

Assures reelection, c/d?

**true** · 2011-05-02

c

**Iratus** · 2011-05-02

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

**Mr Coloredshirt** · 2011-05-02

Time to get my bike out, seems public transportation won't be a good option for a while.

**Night** · 2011-05-02

The thing that most annoys me about this is the more I hear, the more it seems like ISI has been holding out on us like the lunatics we've all guessed them to be.

**Buddahcjcc** · 2011-05-02

lol Osama got podded, the US has the corpse... wonder who we bring it to to get the bounty

**Mr Coloredshirt** · 2011-05-02

Buried at sea WHAT THE PIGFUCK.

**Doddy** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt

Buried at sea WHAT THE PIGFUCK.

The Saudis wouldn't take the body so it was either bury him in international waters or bring him back to the U.s, can imagine what would have happened then .....

**Manfred Hideous** · 2011-05-02

No body means no shrine. Good thinking, IMO.

I don't think this will make a difference on Obama's reelection. I think most people are happy to hear Osama has been killed but the majority of them had already moved on years ago. That won't stop some people from making hay over his success.

I'm not an Obama fan but he did well from every angle on this (from what I've heard so far). He decided to send in a team, rather than bomb and he ditched the body where it would be impossible to retrieve. I won't vote for him but I can't see anything here that he fucked up.

**RansomList** · 2011-05-02

Buried at sea AKA 'We dont want independent confirmation this is the guy' or 'we think he died years ago from liver disease, so we can safely say we killed the man by hitting his former second in commands compound and never having to produce a body'.

Either way, America just secured the attention of the bogeyman to keep the people fearful and biddable for the next ten years as freedoms are chipped away at a bit more and gets to keep the military industrial complex happy into the bargain.

**Grim** · 2011-05-02

All US installations are now at a heightened state of alert. I wonder if anything will really happen.

**xutech** · 2011-05-02

I don't think anything big will happen, but it will be more likely that individuals will go crazy in crowded areas with a gun or hand grenade.

**Grim** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by xutech

I don't think anything big will happen, but it will be more likely that individuals will go crazy in crowded areas with a gun or hand grenade.

Adding to the concern is a Defense Department report released last week by the WikiLeaks website that a Guantanamo detainee had knowledge of al Qaeda possibly possessing a nuclear bomb somewhere in Europe.

The detainee, Abu al-Libi, said he was told by al Qaeda associate Sharif al-Masri that he believed if bin Laden were captured or killed "the bomb would be detonated" in the United States.

Al-Libi said al-Masri told him during the summer of 2004 that the terrorist network was having difficulty moving the bomb, but if it could move it "al Qaeda would find operatives to use it."

Might just be terrorist trolling, but who knows

**RansomList** · 2011-05-02

Centra reads the Guardian and uses an avatar that is an alleged former director of the CIA. *Shrug*

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...h-significance

http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion...alink/10576376

CentraSpike 2 May 2011 2:09PM

It's about time. Well done to the lads from DEVGRU for getting the bastard.
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**Night** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt

Buried at sea WHAT THE PIGFUCK.

Provokes religious infighting amongst the Marianas Trench faction and the Straits of Hormuz faction. Op success.

**Grim** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Night

Provokes religious infighting amongst the Marianas Trench faction and the Straits of Hormuz faction. Op success.

Its not like we really need the body for anything. They probably took a bunch of photos, hair, and dna samples before chucking him overboard. Clearly they didn't want to aggravate Muslim sensitivites by displaying the body, and in their religion they bury the dead within 1 day or something.

**ginlaan** · 2011-05-02

I hope he was necro'd before swimming with the fish.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by RansomList

Buried at sea AKA 'We dont want independent confirmation this is the guy' or 'we think he died years ago from liver disease, so we can safely say we killed the man by hitting his former second in commands compound and never having to produce a body'.

Either way, America just secured the attention of the bogeyman to keep the people fearful and biddable for the next ten years as freedoms are chipped away at a bit more and gets to keep the military industrial complex happy into the bargain.

You found us out. We paid some guy to live a quarter mile from the alleged compound for 50 years and invented twitter on the off chance we needed to fabricate a story like this and we needed reliable witnesses.

**Rico** · 2011-05-02

The dude who pulled the trigger must be feeling like the dog's bollocks today.

**RansomList** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Rico

The dude who pulled the trigger must be feeling like the dog's bollocks today.

People are trained to fill someone with holes until they are down and dont run around solo like rambo superman like in the movies, so odds are the assault team feel like the dogs bollocks.

You found us out. We paid some guy to live a quarter mile from the alleged compound for 50 years and invented twitter on the off chance we needed to fabricate a story like this and we needed reliable witnesses.

Actually, Twitter (and Facebook) are both CIA endorsed programs developed ever since it was realized that people are dumb enough to broadcast their lives to the world. Much cheaper than having feet on the ground and nationwide CCTV footage.

trolololol etc...

I'm just saying that its as plausible he died years ago as it is Sunday night. You show people something they want to see and they will ignore or invent their way around the details that dont fit in with what they want to find.

**Stronke** · 2011-05-02

Waiting for new Osama video claiming they killed his good twin.

**RansomList** · 2011-05-02

Reddit is being crushed by the sheer volume of posts by people wanting to be the first person to tell the world Osama is dead

**Mira Z** · 2011-05-02

I suppose it would be foolish to bring up the subject of extra judicial killings?

Good job martyring the guy by the way...

Edit: I realise I'm being harsh here. I suppose if he'd been captured and tried he would have been sentenced to death, the American legal system being as it is. That would probably have had an even more profound martyr effect.

It might have been possible to hand him over to the ICC, where lifetime imprisonment would have been a viable sentence. That would mean acknowledging the ICC though.

**Fartman** · 2011-05-02

**RansomList** · 2011-05-02

It might have been possible to hand him over to the ICC, where lifetime imprisonment would have been a viable sentence. That would mean acknowledging the ICC though.

...which is kinda tricky when your previous and incumbent Gov's are bloody to the elbows involved in rendition, torture, assassination of 'terrorists' (potentially anyone that doesn't have Americas best interests at heart) and war crimes.

**Grim** · 2011-05-02

Some people simply deserve to die. Also, it was a military action, the SEALS don't surround terrorist compounds and wait for Samuel L Jackson to talk them into surrendering peacefully.

**Stronke** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Fartman

**Fartman** · 2011-05-02

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...navy/nswdg.htm

time for an update

**Manfred Hideous** · 2011-05-02

I think the ICC locking him up would be a great idea. Put him in a prison in an EU country all nice and safe. Don't worry folks; it's not like his admirers would take over a plane and kill a hostage per hour until he was released. That only happens in the movies.

**Stronke** · 2011-05-02

**Grim** · 2011-05-02

Realistically, if he had been captured we should have handed him over to the Saudis. A public beheading would be a nice end to his story.

**somedude76** · 2011-05-02

He has sympathizers in the Saudi royal family. I wouldn't trust them with his capture. Doubt they would've taken him either.

**RansomList** · 2011-05-02

Some uncomfortable truths for the Yanks:

Given American conduct on the global circuit in the last ten (?) years and specifically events immediately following, during and after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the United States of America is on purely moral grounds and along the lines of 'an eye for an eye' as justifiable a target and enemy for 'terrorists' as 'terrorists' are for the United States.

You've both done Evil shit, dont get all highhanded. You aren't the good guys and neither are they. Further

**somedude76** · 2011-05-02

Wut?

**Night** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by somedude76

Doubt they would've taken him either.

The Saudis may have refused to take his body, which puts a rather different spin on their relationship.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by RansomList

Some uncomfortable truths for the Yanks:

Given American conduct on the global circuit in the last ten (?) years and specifically events immediately following, during and after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the United States of America is on purely moral grounds and along the lines of 'an eye for an eye' as justifiable a target and enemy for 'terrorists' as 'terrorists' are for the United States.

You've both done Evil shit, dont get all highhanded. You aren't the good guys and neither are they. Further

Says someone who I presume lives in Europe? If so, please recuse yourself from passing condemnation after spending centuries subjugating the planet and causing the first wars that truly did involve much of the entire world. The European empires are the ones who seeded the pasture of hatred so well.

If America is powerful, you need only to look back to two world wars her people were dragged into unwillingly. The Americas largely wanted to let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. If the world sentiment is so against America, look to yourselves to discover the reason why this is so.

**Aurora148** · 2011-05-02

according to reports the White House is apparently contemplating the release of the photos of him.

**somedude76** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Night

The Saudis may have refused to take his body, which puts a rather different spin on their relationship.

Not sure what your point is. The Saudi royal family is quite large. There is the self interested ruling faction that kicked him out of the country rather than prosecute him for fear of retaliation of radicals who support Osama's cause. Then there are those within the establishment who are sympathetic to his cause and have, allegedly, supported him with wealth and information.

Not trusting the Saudi's with his capture, hypothetically, comes from a concern that some within the Saudi establishment would cooperate with outside forces in an effort to free him. Likely, not really. Possible? I think so.

Also, given the uprisings all across the Middle East I doubt the Saudi's would want to execute Osama. Seems to me Saudi Arabia has avoided much of the fire that is spreading over there. It would be unwise for the Saudi royal family to take Osama and execute him would it have been possible.

**Night** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by somedude76

Not sure what your point is. The Saudi royal family is quite large. There is the self interested ruling faction that kicked him out of the country rather than prosecute him for fear of retaliation of radicals who support Osama's cause. Then there are those within the establishment who are sympathetic to his cause and have, allegedly, supported him with wealth and information.

Basically, that you're inventing radicals out of people who are instead hoping for enough basic rationality to not bite the hand that feeds you. The Saudis are basically a better-managed ISI, resulting in a weaker position but better controllablity. Usually. The Saudi royal family is shockingly pragmatic for the people with the keys to Mecca and you do their abilities a considerable disservice.

They didn't want his body because whatever they did with it would shit all over that balance.

**Mira Z** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Aurora148

according to reports the White House is apparently contemplating the release of the photos of him.

Tough call: On one hand they want to prove that they actually killed him

, on the other if his corpse is pretty mauled looking it's only going to radicalise more muslims.

Partsking · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous

Says someone who I presume lives in Europe? If so, please recuse yourself from passing condemnation after spending centuries subjugating the planet and causing the first wars that truly did involve much of the entire world. The European empires are the ones who seeded the pasture of hatred so well.

If America is powerful, you need only to look back to two world wars her people were dragged into unwillingly. The Americas largely wanted to let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. If the world sentiment is so against America, look to yourselves to discover the reason why this is so.

Totally meant to add a fitting .gif for the occassion:

**true** · 2011-05-02

Funny shit with young religions. Believe me early christians looked exactly as bizzare batshit insane and fundamentalist to Romans as we see radical muslims today.

You see roman empire was an established civilization familiar with many other religions. Not that other religions were respected but general stance was "Believe what you will" at least Romans knew about foreign gods and seen alot of foreigners.

And then came these weirdo fanatics who deny EVERY other god. With a fucking execution device on their flag! Who die with smile for any reason while saying they die for their god srsly.
Also cristians lived secluded so their traditions were surrounded by rumors such as "they eat children" Like it was later with jews during middle ages.

Take for instance misconception of Eucharist, unfamiliar with such concepts as salvation and uniting with god Romans seen it as "WTF they symbolically eat god's flesh and drink god's blood? They ate their god wtf ffs fucking cultists"

No wonder Romans took measures and lulz were had at coliseum with lions and such. >:3

**Grim** · 2011-05-02

The Romans also got tired of the Jews, destroyed their temple, and exciled them from their homes so that it took them almost 2000 years to get back. A good solution to todays religious problems? Discuss.

**somedude76** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Night

Basically, that you're inventing radicals out of people who are instead hoping for enough basic rationality to not bite the hand that feeds you. The Saudis are basically a better-managed ISI, resulting in a weaker position but better controllablity. Usually. The Saudi royal family is shockingly pragmatic for the people with the keys to Mecca and you do their abilities a considerable disservice.

They didn't want his body because whatever they did with it would shit all over that balance.

Inventing radicals?

You seem to have some monolithic view of the Royal family and Saudi security structure. That they're a bunch of clones running around with the exact same thoughts churning around in their heads? There are individuals within the Saudi royal family and security apparatus that do subscribe to the teachings of Wahhabism and the radical and zealous world view that too often comes along with that school of thought.

Is it rampant and widespread? No. They do exist though. Even in a marginal capacity, it's a valid concern in my mind.

Overall I agree with your characterization of the Saudi regime. The Saudi's do a good job governing their country in their own iron fisted way.

**Mr Coloredshirt** · 2011-05-02

Originally Posted by Partsking

Totally meant to add a fitting .gif for the occassion:

RansomList, this is why I negrepped you. You are encouraging this. This post is your fault. If you want to stick your fingers in your ears and revenge negrep me because a red dot hurts your pride go ahead, but deep down you know what you did.

You are literally the ISI.