The Hundred Acre Wood: Pure Blind, Venal & Surrounding

[Venetian Tar]

The man above me has the right idea.

I also want rainbow smartbombs. We could literally sit there in my little pony land with rainbows and candy.

And blues.

[Dodgy Past]

Considering not only drakes but also AC Hurricanes and Vagabonds are high up as damage then they obviously completely failed to execute on the 'Long' bit of it being a LR HAC gang.

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

Considering not only drakes but also AC Hurricanes and Vagabonds are high up as damage then they obviously completely failed to execute on the 'Long' bit of it being a LR HAC gang.

What are you referring to here?

[Kryptyk]

sigh was a massive herp derp by one of our new fc's... on a fleet tailor made for some muninn fun. seems checking smart bombs wasnt high on the priority list either

on a plus note, we've been running the muninn fleet (properly mind you) for a couple weeks now and having a lot of fun

[John Caffeine]

Just found out it's a double chromium moon. lawl 200m/month

FA were looking for a fight, I assume with the smallish alliance that held the moon. Instead RnK hotdropped them and FA whelped a Maelstrom fleet.

Respect to FA for going out and activly looking for fights; today they went out to reinforce another (I think) worthless moon trying to get a fight. Unfortunetly they bailed a bit early when hotdropped this time, but it was a good decision by their FC as they were very light in both BS and Logistics, and the fight would have been a one side slaughter.

http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25837

Still, they went back and reinforced the tower while RnK were off killing a WIdot Wyvern. Although both FA pilots and FCs have much to learn, they're at least out there trying to learn and get better rather than hiding in their safe Fountain space. I think with a bit of practice and skiling into Maelstroms they will probably get a fairly respectable Alpha-fleet.

[Elo]

They just need to like burn away from no prop mod abaddon fleet and zap them

[Unifix]

FA were looking for a fight, I assume with the smallish alliance that held the moon. Instead RnK hotdropped them and FA whelped a Maelstrom fleet.

Respect to FA for going out and activly looking for fights; today they went out to reinforce another (I think) worthless moon trying to get a fight. Unfortunetly they bailed a bit early when hotdropped this time, but it was a good decision by their FC as they were very light in both BS and Logistics, and the fight would have been a one side slaughter.

http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25837

[spoiler=CTA mail]

OPERATION BLOW DART

Formup YI-
When 04-27-11 @ 1800 (be ready before, we will be stepping off prior to)
Shiptypes Alpha Maelstroms--> Scorps--> Logi--> Else
FC TBD

Notes: We need to KILL! this tower! WE NEED as many maels, scorps, logi as possible. The chance of a fight is 99% so expect it. PAY YOUR SRF DUES! IF you dont have none of those 3 ships BUT you can fly them talk to your ceo/directors about getting them. It is imperative that we have those ships in numbers. At the end of this op I will be giving away 1 dramial and 1 daredevil. See you all on the field.

Still, they went back and reinforced the tower while RnK were off killing a WIdot Wyvern. Although both FA pilots and FCs have much to learn, they're at least out there trying to learn and get better rather than hiding in their safe Fountain space. I think with a bit of practice and skiling into Maelstroms they will probably get a fairly respectable Alpha-fleet.

[/spoiler]

I think they really want that moon tbh, they have basically no tech moons (from what I know).

But anyways, I sat in and listened to their fleets one night, they have confidence and discipline. People are doing what they should be. However, the person preventing them from having good fights and good FC/fleet experience is Zagdul. Zagdul will appoint [insert name here] as FC (usually a CEO/director). But Zagdul will sit in the channel, and still try to FC. When Appointed FCs do something, he will be "no no do this", or "shut the fuck up, do this". Every single time. No Joke.

[Zagdul]

FA were looking for a fight, I assume with the smallish alliance that held the moon. Instead RnK hotdropped them and FA whelped a Maelstrom fleet.

Respect to FA for going out and activly looking for fights; today they went out to reinforce another (I think) worthless moon trying to get a fight. Unfortunetly they bailed a bit early when hotdropped this time, but it was a good decision by their FC as they were very light in both BS and Logistics, and the fight would have been a one side slaughter.

http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25837

Still, they went back and reinforced the tower while RnK were off killing a WIdot Wyvern. Although both FA pilots and FCs have much to learn, they're at least out there trying to learn and get better rather than hiding in their safe Fountain space. I think with a bit of practice and skiling into Maelstroms they will probably get a fairly respectable Alpha-fleet.

With all the shit you've given me in the past... this is spot the fuck on.

I'm tired of being in an alliance who waits for their master's to put an operation together.

We're just trying to learn.

The guy who runs my SRF pulled me by the ear yesterday. I let him know that he should expect a few more. We've got to learn somehow. Who better to get whelped by than RnK?

Edit: funny story... many FA pilots had no clue who RnK were.

[Zagdul]

[/spoiler]

I think they really want that moon tbh, they have basically no tech moons (from what I know).

But anyways, I sat in and listened to their fleets one night, they have confidence and discipline. People are doing what they should be. However, the person preventing them from having good fights and good FC/fleet experience is Zagdul. Zagdul will appoint [insert name here] as FC (usually a CEO/director). But Zagdul will sit in the channel, and still try to FC. When Appointed FCs do something, he will be "no no do this", or "shut the fuck up, do this". Every single time. No Joke.

That particular moon? Not necessarily.

We've just been going around hitting moons we think we can take on our own. If we get a fight out of it, we all get to learn something.

So far, I've had to snag the fleet twice from the FC's who are learning. They are learning and when we're confident enough, we'll hit higher. These operations are to get the fights. They'll come to us and that's the point right now. When we can successfully take a few of our own moons as an alliance, we'll be stronger. We'll also be a stronger ally to our friends.

In my opinion, many alliance's make the mistake and underestimate their abilities. furthermore, they don't set goals for themselves. I still view -FA- as a "young" alliance who doesn't have combat experience. It's so true, we lack FC's, we lack experienced combat pilots. But where we lack these things, we have people who are motivated. These people want to try, they want to learn and they show up every day to whelp their ships and do it again.

For the people who say we should be doing it in Drakes... Well, it doesn't hurt as much in drakes.

[John Caffeine]

That particular moon? Not necessarily.

We've just been going around hitting moons we think we can take on our own. If we get a fight out of it, we all get to learn something.

So far, I've had to snag the fleet twice from the FC's who are learning. They are learning and when we're confident enough, we'll hit higher. These operations are to get the fights. They'll come to us and that's the point right now. When we can successfully take a few of our own moons as an alliance, we'll be stronger. We'll also be a stronger ally to our friends.

In my opinion, many alliance's make the mistake and underestimate their abilities. furthermore, they don't set goals for themselves. I still view -FA- as a "young" alliance who doesn't have combat experience. It's so true, we lack FC's, we lack experienced combat pilots. But where we lack these things, we have people who are motivated. These people want to try, they want to learn and they show up every day to whelp their ships and do it again.

For the people who say we should be doing it in Drakes... Well, it doesn't hurt as much in drakes.

Unifix does have a point; although taking over the fleet in Kamih was probably for the best, as it allowed you to effectivly save most of it, I believe you made a mistake doing so in Sota. That would have been a perfect fight for a training FC to get combat experience, it was a fight you could have won with some clever FC'ing and effective kiting of the Abaddons. I don't know if the "training FC" froze up or what, but that right there is the kind of fight trainees need to learn how to handle, and how to stay calm in.

It's understandable that's it's temping to take over fleets when shit is going down, especially when you're not yet confident in the guys you've put in charge of running them. But the only way people learn is by doing it themselves, having a safetynet incase someone panics or freezes up is probably for the best, but short of that you just need to let those baby birds fly.

[Zagdul]

Unifix does have a point; although taking over the fleet in Kamih was probably for the best, as it allowed you to effectivly save most of it, I believe you made a mistake doing so in Sota. That would have been a perfect fight for a training FC to get combat experience, it was a fight you could have won with some clever FC'ing and effective kiting of the Abaddons. I don't know if the "training FC" froze up or what, but that right there is the kind of fight trainees need to learn how to handle, and how to stay calm in.

It's understandable that's it's temping to take over fleets when shit is going down, especially when you're not yet confident in the guys you've put in charge of running them. But the only way people learn is by doing it themselves, having a safetynet incase someone panics or freezes up is probably for the best, but short of that you just need to let those baby birds fly.

It's a rock and a hard place.

There's valid points on both sides. The most valid one being that if I shit on too many FC's, I'm liable to lose the ones who have the balls to step up and do it.

[tgr]

Unifix does have a point; although taking over the fleet in Kamih was probably for the best, as it allowed you to effectivly save most of it, I believe you made a mistake doing so in Sota. That would have been a perfect fight for a training FC to get combat experience, it was a fight you could have won with some clever FC'ing and effective kiting of the Abaddons. I don't know if the "training FC" froze up or what, but that right there is the kind of fight trainees need to learn how to handle, and how to stay calm in.

It's understandable that's it's temping to take over fleets when shit is going down, especially when you're not yet confident in the guys you've put in charge of running them. But the only way people learn is by doing it themselves, having a safetynet incase someone panics or freezes up is probably for the best, but short of that you just need to let those baby birds fly.

I'm no FC, and I don't know the situations this happened in, but while the premise is right that the only way people learn is by doing it themselves, welping (not whelping, please, for the love of god) an entire fleet is probably more damaging to a fledging FC morale than having someone take over.

Having someone take over, and then get the majority of the fleet home, means that while they get the initial embarassement of losing control of the fleet, at least they're able to sit back and make mental notes of what the replacement FC does, without the added pressure of making decisions. Compare that to if he does freeze up and is completely unable to think of how to get people out mostly intact, and I certainly would hate (and resist) getting into that position again.

EVE is such a harsh environment that erring on the side of caution might be better than throwing them out into the deep too early. It's a fine balancing act.

[Zagdul]

I'm no FC, and I don't know the situations this happened in, but while the premise is right that the only way people learn is by doing it themselves, welping (not whelping, please, for the love of god) an entire fleet is probably more damaging to a fledging FC morale than having someone take over.

Having someone take over, and then get the majority of the fleet home, means that while they get the initial embarassement of losing control of the fleet, at least they're able to sit back and make mental notes of what the replacement FC does, without the added pressure of making decisions. Compare that to if he does freeze up and is completely unable to think of how to get people out mostly intact, and I certainly would hate (and resist) getting into that position again.

EVE is such a harsh environment that erring on the side of caution might be better than throwing them out into the deep too early. It's a fine balancing act.

Right now I'm in the position where I've got an abundance of dudes willing to step up and give it a go. Many of them I don't know or have never flown under so it's hard to pass the ball to them. While I want them to step up and lead, many times I cut em off because there's hesitation with them and I know the fleet feels it also.

We've paid out almost 7b in replacements this month "learning". We're not a "rich" alliance but can afford this. However, I'm not going to pretend like we can continue at this pace.

[Zagdul]

We had another engagement with RnK today.

Things went much better. Our FC's are learning and I'm stepping back more. It's hard to let things go sometimes.
http://www.fatal-ascension.com/index...sg3105#msg3105

The 27th day of the 4th month the Fatal Ascension men and women decided to embark upon an excursion towards the system of Kamih to destroy a POS and claim the former position of said POS as their own. It would be an Alpha fleet, armed to the teeth and ready to obliterate whatever comes its way on the count of three. After a slight delay of 2 minutes and 35 seconds the fleet embarked upon their voyage to rid this putrid lowsec system of the POS menace.

The path through Cloud Ring and Fountain was effortless and the courageous men encountered nearly no resistance. Upon arrival the system was clear of any enemies and our scouts were well prepared. At approximately 19:00 the fleet began their attack on the POS. The enemies knew where we were, afterwards they supposedly said they gave it up, clearly they were not ready in time to counter our superior forces. The POS went down at 20:01 and the modules were destroyed in rapid succession. At 20:18 the POS would only be remembered in excel sheets and obscure alliance mails of the enemy.
Soon after we encountered a fleet of Rooks and Kings which consisted mainly of Abaddons and their Guardians, who were all ready to fight our numerically superior force, albeit small they were well-prepared, but we did not know of this fleet yet. The Fatal Ascension fleet began to return from Kamih.

In Nema the Rooks and Kings were prepared and popped a cyno. We waited, regrouped above the gate and then fell upon them. The first engagement began. Our logistics held well, sadly we lost a logistic pilot to the enemy fire. Many Scorpions and Maelstroms perished in the fire, however our counter-attack was efficient and Abaddons fell as well. After getting some distance we warped off to regroup and then warped back to the Hier gate in Nema to engage them again. Once again shots fells and although we had more losses, we hit them harder ISK-wise, but they dropped our numbers. After exchanging “Good fights” in local and a short discussion, the Rooks and Kings went on their way... After a short break we began our return to home and have a break and talk about the good fights we just had.

Or so we thought. Upon returning from the Purge of Aridia crusade and we were ready to settle down, a lone Phobos cyno'd in another Rooks and Kings fleet in 5-M, much to our surprise. We quickly scattered and fled to regroup in YI. They actually had someone waiting in Cloud Ring to cyno us. They value us as an opponent and we too respect their efforts. The purge has only just begun.

FA KB: http://killboard.fatal-ascension.com...d&kll_id=13530
RnK KB: http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25909
Eve Kill: http://www.fatal.killmail.org/?a=kil...kll_id=9533742

[Unifix]

We had another engagement with RnK today.

Things went much better. Our FC's are learning and I'm stepping back more. It's hard to let things go sometimes.
http://www.fatal-ascension.com/index...sg3105#msg3105


FA KB: http://killboard.fatal-ascension.com...d&kll_id=13530
RnK KB: http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25909
Eve Kill: http://www.fatal.killmail.org/?a=kil...kll_id=9533742

They are probably not all shown on the KMs, I have 5 words of advice. LOGI LOGI LOGI LOGI CLAYMORE.
You also had enough Scorps to wtfjam their guardians.....
Maybe I'll sit in another of your fights.

[Helios Black]

We had another engagement with RnK today.

Things went much better. Our FC's are learning and I'm stepping back more. It's hard to let things go sometimes.
http://www.fatal-ascension.com/index...sg3105#msg3105


FA KB: http://killboard.fatal-ascension.com...d&kll_id=13530
RnK KB: http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25909
Eve Kill: http://www.fatal.killmail.org/?a=kil...kll_id=9533742

You lost to a group of bastard fit battleships...

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

Zag, test your FCs ability against our muninns.

We'll help ya out.

[Zagdul]

They are probably not all shown on the KMs, I have 5 words of advice. LOGI LOGI LOGI LOGI CLAYMORE.
You also had enough Scorps to wtfjam their guardians.....
Maybe I'll sit in another of your fights.

Yeah, our last engagement had more logis. Today not all of em were available so we took what we had... 6 total IIRC.

Also, we're severely lacking leadership pilots for fleet bonuses. Also something we're aware of. I personally have 13 days left on WC V.

We're getting there RnK FC's have been handing it to us for having the balls to engage them. Most fleets run from them while we sit there and pound at it.

You lost to a group of bastard fit battleships...

and a triage carrier where they dropped a second cyno that brought in reinforcemnts that are not showing up because we were out of their point range when they came in.

In total, I believe they had roughly 15-20 logi on the field + a triage carrier. I'll see if I can get their FC to make an account here and comment from his perspective.

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

FA were looking for a fight, I assume with the smallish alliance that held the moon. Instead RnK hotdropped them and FA whelped a Maelstrom fleet.

http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25837

I think we need to review what constitutes a "Maelstrom Fleet"

[Faife]

I think we need to review what constitutes a "Maelstrom Fleet"

i'm guessing most of the fleet didn't show up on report cause they didn't get a single kill.

[Steelrat]

Grunts view:
This one was at a POS in Kamih and we killed what we got. The rest of FA got out.
http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25837

The fight in Nema wasn't so one sided. System had some modul lag with about 120 in local our Guardian pilots weren´t happy about that. Fight started at the Hier Gate after we cynoed in, RnK had about 12 Guardians and 40 BS. Round 1 Scorpions and Maels were primaried in Round 2 when FA came back at range only Maels.
The FA killboard shows pretty much what happened
http://killboard.fatal-ascension.com...d&kll_id=13530
Nothing out of the ordinary happened just a good subcap fight.
The Thanatos was an overeagerly Pilot and was instantly ordered to cyno out.
Part 2 in 5-m i missed but from the look at the killbaord it was just killing stragglers.
http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25948


Props to FA for bringing it as opposed to others like Session Changes here:
http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25853
They selfdestructed 4 Carrier and 1 Dreadnaught in the fight.
But we got rewarded for a nice SC kill + some Caps an hour later.
http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25887
Still can´t understand how you can field 5 SC + some Caps without any support fleet even on standby as we first thought that was a trap but went in anyway.

I think LordM will write a more detailed BR later on. That were some nice kills and fights the last 2 days.

[John Caffeine]

and a triage carrier where they dropped a second cyno that brought in reinforcemnts that are not showing up because we were out of their point range when they came in.

In total, I believe they had roughly 15-20 logi on the field + a triage carrier. I'll see if I can get their FC to make an account here and comment from his perspective.

The carrier was not triage and not actually ment to be there. The only thing the carrier pilot added to the fight was a juicy target for you to kill if you held the field. I'm not entirely sure what reinforcements you're reffering to, I don't think we had any to bring appart from the supercapfleet on standby.

As far as logi go I think we had 10-12 or so. Some had to go not long before the hotdrop so not sure what the exact numbers were, but definetly not in the 15-20 range.

I think we need to review what constitutes a "Maelstrom Fleet"

http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboa...d&kll_id=25755 - That's the welped Maelstrom, the other link was the fleet that bailed early (and was significantly lighter on battleships).

[Steelrat]

Double post with delay ....

[Zagdul]

Thanks for your side...

I was pretty sure when you guys initially jumped in, there was only about 10 guardians on the field and a few minutes later (about when we warped off to regroup) a second cyno went up. On our way back in, there were 2x as many guardians on my overview. This however, may have been a bug.

FYI, while we're inexperienced with fleet warfare, we're not dumb enough to shoot a carrier when there's a hellcat fleet on the field.

[Dunarad]

http://killboard.notfound.fr/?a=kill...ed&kll_id=8568

Support of the WI. fleet was here.

[Dunarad]

This is a quick BR one of my allymate posted on a French forum. I just translated it and added a few things. Enjoy


Tonight, our national Bob lauched an OP.

The goal was to have a fight by bashing some structures, as it seems the only way to have it now in PB.
A SBU was launched here : http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Pure_Blind/HPS5-C

The main targets were FA and WI., residents of CR. This system is an important waypoint for the JBs network in PB and CR.

At 21h30 (19h30 eve time), our fleet enters the system but no one is here for us, so we wait a bit.
We put some alts in strategic places and start shooting modules of one of the two JB pos, the one with the cynojammer, incapping them. We don't want to shoot the jammer since we prefer to control the entry point of the ennemy fleet : it will be the bridge or the gate.
Meanwhile, our scouts finally spotted the hostile fleet forming up in YI-, approximately 60 at the moment.

We decide to anchor some bubbles on the only gate of the system.
At this point, Evoke contact us telling us that they are a bit bored and that they want to be part of the fight. We tell them to be discrete, because FA and WI. will surely blueball if they knew that Evoke was forming up too. The second problem was that if Evoke had to come, they'll had to bridge 2 jumps out and then to manually travel to us, and this only happening when we had already engaged. So, for the first minutes of the fight, we knew that we will be on our own, without any help coming from our allies. Despite this, our morale is hight because this OP was not planned to be with Evoke and a bit of reinforcement are always welcomed.

After a short lap of time, the FA fleet is ready, outnumbering us slightly (we were 75, they were around 100-110 in fleet)
They warp to their bridge and jumps.
We warps to their JB @ 300, landing when most of them are warping out and our hero dictors manage to tackle about 15.
We rapidly cleans them and align back, waiting for the enemy fleet to warp-in. They don't warped and went on a pos.

Before the proper BR, lets see the fleet composition.
Compo des fleets:
404: 75 fleet, mainly close range BS like abbadons and tempest, supported by T3 tackle and some anti-support.
FA: a bit over 100 in fleet, but only 84 appears on the KB, i suppose it was from logis not whoring on kills. They were in alpha maelstroms, supported by an heavy wing of scorpions.

The fight :
Hostiles are in Pos, apparently not willing to engage.
We decides to motivates them to go out, so we warp to the first JB pos and we start shooting the jammer. After 5 minutes, the hostiles warps @ 300 km of the TCU with 18 minutes remaining to be online. We warp to it only to see them warp out an other time.... to the jammer POS.

We warp at great range of the pos, and then warp at 30 km of them, not our ideal range. Our herodictors do a great job as usual and manage to get a bublle on top of them just before they finish aligning. Knowing they can't escape now, the fight begins.

The order is given to burn to them overloading the mwd. Our FC is primaried, dies, the second one is primaried too and dies in a glorious ball of fire in less than 3 minutes. Our third FC takes the commands and gives the order to the BS to continue to burn in the middle of the ennemy fleet. During all of this, our targets dies rapidly, at the rythm of 4-6 per minute.
Knowing we engaged the hostile fleet, Evoke bridged 2 jumps out, and is running to us.
Targets keeps dieing faster, the scorps are no longer a problem. Our FC then targets the Maels, who will die very quickly.
The remote is difficult at starts due to the impressive alpha-strikes, but as the enemy DPS starts to die, our logi FC tells us that we can now easily tank them.
The Evoke fleet lands on us and helps us killing the few remaining BS's and the support, consisting of BC's.

BR :
From 404 POV : http://killboard2.notfound.fr/?a=kil...ed&kll_id=9717
From FA POV : http://fatal.killmail.org/?a=kill_re...kll_id=9542293
From EVE-Kill : http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9541815

Debriefing :
We still need to work our call for rep broadcast, on the 6 abbadons who died, 3 could have been saved IMO.
This setup was being played well, the result shows it.
A fight really nice, which we'd like to see each night.
Thanks to all the participants, and thanks to FA for bringing it. We wish them the best, they are obviously improving themselves and getting quite a lot of people in fleet. They also tend to prove that they can do things by themselves and that goons don't have to be babysitting them, which is nice.
Also, thank you Evoke, and sorry for the carrier in deklein this afternoon

[Elmo]

Ev0ke. completely ruined our kb report by insisting to show up

[Helios Black]

FYI, while we're inexperienced with fleet warfare, we're not dumb enough to shoot a carrier when there's a hellcat fleet on the field.

That was NOT a hellcat fleet.

[Zagdul]

That was NOT a hellcat fleet.

FYI, while we're inexperienced with fleet warfare, we're not dumb enough to shoot a carrier when there's a hellcat fleet on the field.

w/e... amarr armor tanked battleships using pulse lazorz on field... mky?

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

w/e... amarr armor tanked battleships using pulse lazorz on field... mky?

Abaddons with pulses =/= Hellcats

Hellcats are a specific fleet doctrine from PL that use abaddons with a particular fit and use them in a particular way. This doesn't mean every group flying baddons with pulses is a fucking hellcat fleet.

[MpozoY]

Abaddons with pulses =/= Hellcats

Hellcats are a specific fleet doctrine from PL that use abaddons with a particular fit and use them in a particular way. This doesn't mean every group flying baddons with pulses is a fucking hellcat fleet.

Based on your extensive experience in Pandemic Legion alliance how long would you say they had to fly them and how much deviation was permitted in the fits before they successfully copyrighted the term to keep lesser alliances from soiling it

[Mira Z]

Based on your extensive experience in Pandemic Legion alliance how long would you say they had to fly them and how much deviation was permitted in the fits before they successfully copyrighted the term to keep lesser alliances from soiling it

Actually, the difference is every PL Hellcat has a 40% chance of, in fact, being a Guardian.

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

Based on your extensive experience in Pandemic Legion alliance how long would you say they had to fly them and how much deviation was permitted in the fits before they successfully copyrighted the term to keep lesser alliances from soiling it

Rooks and Kings are using abaddon fits drastically different than PL's hellcat fleet, which makes them just a fucking battleship fleet (or whatever RnK calls that particular doctrine.)

That's the point I was making.

[Mr Coloredshirt]

RnK are in fact known for bringing just any old "fucking battleship fleet", they're not heavy into this whole "doctrine" thing.

[MpozoY]

PL's 'Hellcat fleet' was "just a fucking battleship fleet" and sperging over the correct application of a gimmick name is a red cunt hair away from spouting wallotexts about inaccuracies in sanctioned fanfic presentation of the intricacies of Gallente political theory vs Minmatar

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

PL's 'Hellcat fleet' was "just a fucking battleship fleet" and sperging over the correct application of a gimmick name is a red cunt hair away from spouting wallotexts about inaccuracies in sanctioned fanfic presentation of the intricacies of Gallente political theory vs Minmatar

Why don't you sperge at the person who originally brought it up. I was really just kind of reiterating what he was saying.

That was NOT a hellcat fleet.

You should probably just chill the fuck out and breathe. You seem p worked up.

[A P]

The reason "Hellcats" caught on (and started this fucking terrible cat naming convention...Fatcats, Thundercats, Cripplecats, DIAFcats) was because of that blonde chick with the big tits.

http://www.jetzentertainment.com/wp-...9/hellcats.jpg

True story.

[Mr Coloredshirt]

i assumed it was over the gay black m8

[Zagdul]

Why don't you sperge at the person who originally brought it up. I was really just kind of reiterating what he was saying.



You should probably just chill the fuck out and breathe. You seem p worked up.

Maybe I can help explain this for ya... He wasn't sperging.

You're shit posting and MpozoY was pointing it out. However, once again, this concept has flown right over your head.

EDIT: Oh, and you're a PL fanboy pole smoker.

Is this correct MpozoY? I'd hate to misquote/read you.

[Phineas Freak]

+repping the sockpuppet. carry on.

[MadT]

I would too if i could, just for the avatar though !

Oh, and for bringing it, again and again !
Hope you'll improve, and continue to come for ~good fights~.

[tgr]

That's the point I was making.

The point you should be making is that you should stop posting before you do another coke-induced spergeout.

[MpozoY]

after

you meant after

[Manfred Hideous]

The point you should be making is that you should stop posting before you do another coke-induced spergeout.

I disagree. I'm sorta looking forward to it.

[tgr]

To be fair I was kind of trying to keep his interests in mind. Barring that, yeah, coke up and sperg out, sperglord. I've got my popcorn bpo all researched up and ready to go.

[Dental Floss]

Did I miss something? No one posted the spacemonkey avatar that NCdot just killed?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9546471

[Thrak Tokah]

That kill doesn't exist.

Bad link or fake mail?

[Dental Floss]

Bad link or fake mail?

Guess it was fake, it's no longer on the cap kills page.

[Phreeze]

Fake.

[Checkbox Poll]

I don't think SMA has a titan anyways.