Delve: Mad Posters Beyond Thunderdome

[Arrador]

If they want to win the forum war, they just need to hire us. Cheaper rates, better results.

Sorry, but with Vonq in the alliance all bets are off when it comes to forum wars.

[Propagandas]

If PL ends up contract-free after they finish their current job, i'm afraid the affair in Delve will get one hell of a party pooper. On the other hand, if we are to believe various statements made by PL members, there's no such thing as a shortage of contracts for them.

On the third hand, how much faith can you put on the words of someone named "Propagandas"?

When have i ever stated there are lots of contracts for PL?
There are quite a few "come shoot a pos for 300m" out there but they are slowing down when people start realising we are not doing them.

Only people who have paid us for big shit is NC, RUS and IT and 2 of them are dead. I doubt we will get any good paid work any time soon.

But then again we dont really need to get paid no more since we have all the MM tech moons now v0v

[lolol]

Lots of folks are buthurt because MM is having fun. Why? Comrade Comrade...

Fake edit: Maybe the few MM posters should look at themselves and please start being buthurt and go emo on kugu because you lost space. That would hopefully satisfy the masses that you have been properly put in your place....:P

[Propagandas]

A PL guy saying drakes aren't bad ships.

drakes can kite abaddons to death if they dont suckl

[Acadir]

Lots of informative posts in this thread, keep them coming..

I see that some locking of horns occurred in Querious http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9918547 any battlereports about that incident?

How bout Querious in general.. I know this is Delve thread but those two regions are so closely linked that what happens in the other effects the neighbor too. So the big question is ATLAS. going to evict all the smaller entities?

Who knows? Possibly.
Personally I want FAIL to take all of Querious and then gloriously assault Delve!

[Negotiator]

Lots of informative posts in this thread, keep them coming..

I see that some locking of horns occurred in Querious http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9918547 any battlereports about that incident?

BR was posted yesterday for this from MM perspective.
tldr: MM was blobing cascade fleet which was forced to dock. Cascade asked for help from -A-. Someone baited MM to come to the gate and drop carriers. -A- moved in and finished off them off.

[Propagandas]

PL's coming anyway. They need to feed their ultra-bittervet playerbase constant win win winning and forum drama or their participation will rapidly plummet.

(This isn't meant as a criticism btw. PL has by far the most brilliant organizational model in the game).

Much like nobody follows a khal that cannot ride, nobody follows a PL fc that cannot provide win win wins

[Aralyn]

Why is all the Delve people getting so worked up here FFS.

Seems as though there's a lot of pissed people ripping on MM for going down south & for some reason the locals expect us all to be upset / butthurt that we've lost the North.

Lots of folks are buthurt because MM is having fun. Why?

I think the problem is, that the current Delve residents are starting to feel a bit crowded by all the bandwagoners (them being 404, yourselves, Collective, and Black Legion, with no doubt more to follow). They had a good thing going on down there, and suddenly everyone else and their retarded younger brothers are backpacking down to spoil the fun. The groups who had been thunderdoming away had come to an accord to get good fights, with a gentlements agreement (doh, that wasn't deliberate) on how far to allow escalation; but the more groups that pile down there, the more likely someones gonna get butthurt, and either the caps come out, or the batphones ring, or PL gets a contract, and either way thats the thunderdome fucked.

I know why your all heading down there, and I can sympathise; what they have going is what we all would like to have on tap. But there is no rule that says we can only have goodfights in one region of the map at a time. There are other places you could have gone to for exactly the same effect: Pure Blind has been good fun the last fortnight with Goons/WI/MH squaring off against Polaris/Evoke/Ewoks, messing with the new residents of Tribute/Gem/Vale could have been fun. Then there is CVA, Intrepid Crossing, or a dozen other groups you could have gone to get fights against.

I guess what I'm saying, is you guys could easily have recreated what you want anywhere on the map, it didn't have to be dogpiling into Delve. But instead it might mean you destroy what you are going for. Doesn't seem too bright to me.

[Gyncognito]

very happy that the NC is finally dead

Didn't want that NC anyway?

[BiggerDangDude]

Secret TEST Zulu Squad Jabber Leak:

(11:49:13 AM) leetcheese: im pretty sure they're [MM] on par with test on skill level just with more SP and supercarriers

[lolol]

I think the problem is, that the current Delve residents are starting to feel a bit crowded by all the bandwagoners (them being 404, yourselves, Collective, and Black Legion, with no doubt more to follow). They had a good thing going on down there, and suddenly everyone else and their retarded younger brothers are backpacking down to spoil the fun. The groups who had been thunderdoming away had come to an accord to get good fights, with a gentlements agreement (doh, that wasn't deliberate) on how far to allow escalation; but the more groups that pile down there, the more likely someones gonna get butthurt, and either the caps come out, or the batphones ring, or PL gets a contract, and either way thats the thunderdome fucked.

I know why your all heading down there, and I can sympathise; what they have going is what we all would like to have on tap. But there is no rule that says we can only have goodfights in one region of the map at a time. There are other places you could have gone to for exactly the same effect: Pure Blind has been good fun the last fortnight with Goons/WI/MH squaring off against Polaris/Evoke/Ewoks, messing with the new residents of Tribute/Gem/Vale could have been fun. Then there is CVA, Intrepid Crossing, or a dozen other groups you could have gone to get fights against.

I guess what I'm saying, is you guys could easily have recreated what you want anywhere on the map, it didn't have to be dogpiling into Delve. But instead it might mean you destroy what you are going for. Doesn't seem too bright to me.

I am not in MM. I just like to take the opposing view from all cocksucking bandwagoners. In fact i was shooting them a few months back. But alas, the bad posters have followed them. The beginings of the thread was fine, with delve residents welcoming MM, and pew pew was had with BR's all over. But the Northern thread is dying, and like cockroaches they have migrated. You know who you are.

[Comrade Comrade]

I am not in MM. I just like to take the opposing view from all cocksucking bandwagoners. In fact i was shooting them a few months back. But alas, the bad posters have followed them. The beginings of the thread was fine, with delve residents welcoming MM, and pew pew was had with BR's all over. But the Northern thread is dying, and like cockroaches they have migrated. You know who you are.

*COUGH* POTS AND KETTLES *COUGH*

[Warband]

It is only a matter of time before MM and their allies make a move on somebody's sov. They're already killing TCU's and throwing around the supercaps, sov is the next logical escalation. I don't think anybody in the Thunderdome, southern or Clusterfuck, really believes that MM and their friends have no sov intentions.

Funny to see the MM posters come out of the woodwork though after being conspicuously absent from the northern threads.

[GreenDaemon]

It is only a matter of time before MM and their allies make a move on somebody's sov. They're already killing TCU's and throwing around the supercaps, sov is the next logical escalation. I don't think anybody in the Thunderdome, southern or Clusterfuck, really believes that MM and their friends have no sov intentions.

Funny to see the MM posters come out of the woodwork though after being conspicuously absent from the northern threads.

well, the northern threads were full of shit, so yeah.

Also not much you can post about when the thread is purely "lol, you suck, we haz your space". I meant, true, but can't exactly add to that.

And i'll guess ill keep repeating myself: we have no solid sov plans or intentions, but we do like sov and have the ability to take some, so don't be surprised if we do.

[Some Market Dude]

It is only a matter of time before MM and their allies make a move on somebody's sov. They're already killing TCU's and throwing around the supercaps, sov is the next logical escalation. I don't think anybody in the Thunderdome, southern or Clusterfuck, really believes that MM and their friends have no sov intentions.

Funny to see the MM posters come out of the woodwork though after being conspicuously absent from the northern threads.

Correct.

+repd

[Krishan]

The Delve Coalition should throw their money together and hire PL to get rid of MM and win the forumwar.

Yea, i'm pretty sure camping MM in a NPC station is that kind of fun PL is looking for.. i think the other way around is much more likely because this would result in forum tears and cascades and we're all know PL is loving this. Personally i think if PL comes down Delve it takes like 1 Week until all fights will stop because of supercap-blobbage and they will get no fight from anyone down there anymore. PL.. you should search for a real target.

[Scotch]

Can't take the NPC stations from me.

[progodlegend]

I think the problem is, that the current Delve residents are starting to feel a bit crowded by all the bandwagoners (them being 404, yourselves, Collective, and Black Legion, with no doubt more to follow). They had a good thing going on down there, and suddenly everyone else and their retarded younger brothers are backpacking down to spoil the fun. The groups who had been thunderdoming away had come to an accord to get good fights, with a gentlements agreement (doh, that wasn't deliberate) on how far to allow escalation; but the more groups that pile down there, the more likely someones gonna get butthurt, and either the caps come out, or the batphones ring, or PL gets a contract, and either way thats the thunderdome fucked.

I know why your all heading down there, and I can sympathise; what they have going is what we all would like to have on tap. But there is no rule that says we can only have goodfights in one region of the map at a time. There are other places you could have gone to for exactly the same effect: Pure Blind has been good fun the last fortnight with Goons/WI/MH squaring off against Polaris/Evoke/Ewoks, messing with the new residents of Tribute/Gem/Vale could have been fun. Then there is CVA, Intrepid Crossing, or a dozen other groups you could have gone to get fights against.

I guess what I'm saying, is you guys could easily have recreated what you want anywhere on the map, it didn't have to be dogpiling into Delve. But instead it might mean you destroy what you are going for. Doesn't seem too bright to me.

Please don't lump us in with all the butthurt posting, we are happy for more fights.

[Elmo]

No one in Delve has the wallet to hire PL, so if by ill luck, they come back there, it would only be because they're off contract. And that would really be shitty as fuck, coz let's be honest, PL would probably wipe the whole region or at least force some NAPs to be made against them, which would basically ruin all the fun.


Conclusion : Stay up north PL, only waffles are allowed in Delve.

[Shangpo]

Please don't lump us in with all the butthurt posting, we are happy for more fights.

Agreed, but dont say.. "hey we are not interested in sov... Ohh wait, yes we are" all in the same breath.

There will be many epic fights regardless of Sov battles and I for one am excited.

[Checkbox Poll]

No one in Delve has the wallet to hire PL, so if by ill luck, they come back there, it would only be because they're off contract. And that would really be shitty as fuck, coz let's be honest, PL would probably wipe the whole region or at least force some NAPs to be made against them, which would basically ruin all the fun.


Conclusion : Stay up north PL, only waffles are allowed in Delve.

Hire? I fully expect PL to come down and shit on everyone's fun in the name of "tears."

[Comrade Comrade]

No one in Delve has the wallet to hire PL, so if by ill luck, they come back there, it would only be because they're off contract. And that would really be shitty as fuck, coz let's be honest, PL would probably wipe the whole region or at least force some NAPs to be made against them, which would basically ruin all the fun.


Conclusion : Stay up north PL, only waffles are allowed in Delve.

I think you'd be surprised. To pull them away from securing tech? Sure, but after it's all said and done the price probably varies more on what they have to do. If you want them to go play your sov war for them and grind shit, will it be cheap? Probably not. Too just go shoot a bunch of people that they would happily do anyways? Affordable.

[Krishan]

Conclusion : Stay up north PL, only waffles are allowed in Delve.

Yea but problem is there is no real target for PL up north besides DC (and to be really honest if PL decides to attack DC as well this war would be over in shorttime) and i don't see them turn on NC<dot> or even DRF as long as they hold that many sweet tech moons up there because this would mean they're eventually loosing them.. there is still -a- block left but i guess DRF will attack them soon and this means the list of possible targets is really short for PL and i wonder how long they can go this way i already see the average bittervet-elitepvp-grunt in PL being really -mad emo- because of lacking targets.. i guess we'll see...

[BiggerDangDude]

I have enough ISK to pay PL but I won't because I want MM to take Fountain from TEST.

[Malcanis]

I'll be honest, that made me laugh a bit.

MM is not down here to restart the NC.

Why we are blue to brick squad is a little beyond me...

Both not Found and Sanctuary Pact are not friends, and have only been temp-blued... We have no reservations about temp-bluing

The Collective is blue ...

RZR is only blue because...

Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Then may ye also do ~goodfites~, that are accustomed to do evilblobs.

XxXJeremiahXxX 13:23

[MtA]

Deklein by August!!! Right?

[lolol]

[QUOTE=Funny to see the MM posters come out of the woodwork though after being conspicuously absent from the northern threads.[/QUOTE]

Is the concept they are having fun difficult to grasp? They were not having fun because they were loosing. They were being killed. They were made dead, and as such they were not having fun. Now they are having fun again without having to get into CTA's only to stand down after hours, or being killed without achieving the objective. They are having fun for the sake of having fun. And the Delve dudes are happy to have them there, the anti-NC posters are not. The NC is dead, you killed it. Rejoice.

It's okay. They were mad, and very distraught at losing. Relax.

MM dude's, i sense the problem here is you are not crying enough

[Jm24]

For all the talk of a full standings reset to get back to their roots MM seems to enjoy adding people to their bluelist. Seems counter productive for what they initially came to delve to do. I wonder if/when razor shows up they will continue to do operate like this.

On another note, when MM uses supercaps it is fine, but they were crowing pretty hard about others using them against them up north.

[Grim]

Deklein by August!!! Right?

Given the rate that Goons are losing botting tengus that region will be uninhabited by then, rendering any invasion meaningless.

Edit: From what I've been reading any thats going on here is from Goons/Test who are pissed that the balance in Delve is being upset. MM and Brick are beng quite chill about the whole thing.

[Faife]

I think the problem is, that the current Delve residents are starting to feel a bit crowded by all the bandwagoners (them being 404, yourselves, Collective, and Black Legion, with no doubt more to follow). They had a good thing going on down there, and suddenly everyone else and their retarded younger brothers are backpacking down to spoil the fun. The groups who had been thunderdoming away had come to an accord to get good fights, with a gentlements agreement (doh, that wasn't deliberate) on how far to allow escalation; but the more groups that pile down there, the more likely someones gonna get butthurt, and either the caps come out, or the batphones ring, or PL gets a contract, and either way thats the thunderdome fucked.

I know why your all heading down there, and I can sympathise; what they have going is what we all would like to have on tap. But there is no rule that says we can only have goodfights in one region of the map at a time. There are other places you could have gone to for exactly the same effect: Pure Blind has been good fun the last fortnight with Goons/WI/MH squaring off against Polaris/Evoke/Ewoks, messing with the new residents of Tribute/Gem/Vale could have been fun. Then there is CVA, Intrepid Crossing, or a dozen other groups you could have gone to get fights against.

I guess what I'm saying, is you guys could easily have recreated what you want anywhere on the map, it didn't have to be dogpiling into Delve. But instead it might mean you destroy what you are going for. Doesn't seem too bright to me.

replace Delve with Providence and you sound like a holder

[Dental Floss]

They had a good thing going on down there, and suddenly everyone else and their retarded younger brothers are backpacking down to spoil the fun.

We're not only backpacking down, we've got a gallon of water and our computers in that backpack.

[Desert Punk]

This Thread reads more like the Geminate/Vale/Tribute thread everyday just lacks some smug posting and someone starting a Super caps are overpowered discussion.

South, the new North.

[Mr Coloredshirt]

We're not only backpacking down, we've got a gallon of water and our computers in that backpack.

stay clear of longboards

[Elo]

We're not only backpacking down, we've got a gallon of water and our computers in that backpack.

Cars beware

[GreenDaemon]

We're not only backpacking down, we've got a gallon of water and our computers in that backpack.

that's how dead motherboards happen. I would recommend a different backpack for the water.

[Grim]

that's how dead motherboards happen. I would recommend a different backpack for the water.

Its OK. I am sure they learned their lesson from Vonq.

[Comrade Comrade]

that's how dead motherboards happen. I would recommend a different backpack for the water.

Meh,

Perfectly safe to get some water on there when there's no juice running through it. Hell you could run most of it through a washing machine just aok.

[dopplerganger]

Meh,

Perfectly safe to get some water on there when there's no juice running through it. Hell you could run most of it through a washing machine just aok.

Motherboards are overpowered!

[KWyz]

Tempting fate now, but I have to ask: taking into account eve dotlan maps, how many thousands of NPC kills in a single system indicate the presence of bots there?
Edit: damnit posted in the wrong thread again.

Content: How many supercaps have the people from my former alliance (MM) waved around ? I've only seen what the killboards show, so that's far from accurate. So far it SEEMS they are reluctant to do much hotdropping, situation which can always change, depending how they...em...feel about sov.

[Comrade Comrade]

Motherboards are overpowered!

Pretty much any part can take it, just keep the HD away from it as if they get some water inbetween on the platters (even though it's supposed to be airtight) your in trouble. That's actually why mineral oil PCs work just fine even though they're submerged in liquid, just no electricity conducting.

[spoiler=mineral oil pc] [/spoiler]

Just a note though: I do NOT recommend you washing your electronics parts with water, even if there's no electricity to be had their likely to leave water stains which look weird and terrible (and will ruin your warrant/resale) but not really harm (just make sure you dry it off). Using 98% isopropyl is what I use to clean PCB boards as alcohol evaporates damn quick, practically instant in small quantities.

Tempting fate now, but I have to ask: taking into account eve dotlan maps, how many thousands of NPC kills in a single system indicate the presence of bots there?

Back a while before when I had a system in Oasa me and my friend ran them maybe a couple hours a day each with our setup and had almost constantly the highest number of NPC kills in 24 hours every day (top 3 at least, to the tune of 8k+ npcs per day).

[HandofSatan [banned]]

I think the problem is, that the current Delve residents are starting to feel a bit crowded by all the bandwagoners (them being 404, yourselves, Collective, and Black Legion, with no doubt more to follow). They had a good thing going on down there, and suddenly everyone else and their retarded younger brothers are backpacking down to spoil the fun. The groups who had been thunderdoming away had come to an accord to get good fights, with a gentlements agreement (doh, that wasn't deliberate) on how far to allow escalation; but the more groups that pile down there, the more likely someones gonna get butthurt, and either the caps come out, or the batphones ring, or PL gets a contract, and either way thats the thunderdome fucked.

I know why your all heading down there, and I can sympathise; what they have going is what we all would like to have on tap. But there is no rule that says we can only have goodfights in one region of the map at a time. There are other places you could have gone to for exactly the same effect: Pure Blind has been good fun the last fortnight with Goons/WI/MH squaring off against Polaris/Evoke/Ewoks, messing with the new residents of Tribute/Gem/Vale could have been fun. Then there is CVA, Intrepid Crossing, or a dozen other groups you could have gone to get fights against.

I guess what I'm saying, is you guys could easily have recreated what you want anywhere on the map, it didn't have to be dogpiling into Delve. But instead it might mean you destroy what you are going for. Doesn't seem too bright to me.

TLR - The TEST pets and the -A- pets were having a bit of circle-jerk going on, and then some fat guy named Morsus came down and doesn't understand that they like no-commitment hand-jobs, not full-on penis in butt. Now nobody might get a soft tug anymore, cry, cry.

[KWyz]

I guess you could say MM are really bad with the reacharounds.

[Atticus]

The 2011 Invasion of Delve (aka Operation Delve Freedom)

In June 2011, a combined force of troops from Morsus Mihi, Br1ck Squad and smaller contingents from former NC alliances invaded Delve and have begun attempts to topple the regime of the Southern/Cluster Coalition.

Despite claims of only looking for WMDs (their pvp roots), critics argue this war was started for resource exploitation and occupation. As an industrial juggernaut, MM requires moons (oil) to fuel its consumer-based economy. Despite objective analysis by UN weapons inspectors (Dotlan) which suggests the resources in Delve are not as profitable as regions in the North, the Coalition of the Willing seems unable to stop the movement of their massive war machine. Having lost such a valuable supply of RMT in the North, MM must find additional resources to keep its industry going.

MM scouts have been seen looking for WMDs but journalists have reported examples of war crimes. Nude pics have been leaked of DelveGoons being tortured and denied rights guaranteed by the Blob Convention of 2008 in MM prison NPC Delve systems.

Resistance movements of Gent/Convicted Shias supported by Iranian Test/Goons have sprouted. As well, Southern Coalition Sunnis have been spotted. Time will tell if these two traditional enemies will unite to repel invasion by Northerners.

Prior to the invasion, the MM Congress passed a "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of MM Armed Forces Against Delve". The resolution authorized President Vuk Lau to "use any means necessary" against Delve, Members of MM polled in May 2011 widely favored further diplomacy over an invasion, citing possibility for gudfightz if they talked it out.

At a press conference on May 31, 2011, Vuk again reiterated that the single trigger for the invasion would be Delve’s failure to give gudfightz, “The South must understand that if they do not give gudfightz, for the sake of peace, we, along with others, will go give gudfightz to the South.”

[Faife]

The 2011 Invasion of Delve (aka Operation Delve Freedom)

In June 2011, a combined force of troops from Morsus Mihi, Br1ck Squad and smaller contingents from former NC alliances invaded Delve and have begun attempts to topple the regime of the Southern/Cluster Coalition.

Despite claims of only looking for WMDs (their pvp roots), critics argue this war was started for resource exploitation and occupation. As an industrial juggernaut, MM requires moons (oil) to fuel its consumer-based economy. Despite objective analysis by UN weapons inspectors (Dotlan) which suggests the resources in Delve are not as profitable as regions in the North, the Coalition of the Willing seems unable to stop the movement of their massive war machine. Having lost such a valuable supply of RMT in the North, MM must find additional resources to keep its industry going.

MM scouts have been seen looking for WMDs but journalists have reported examples of war crimes. Nude pics have been leaked of DelveGoons being tortured and denied rights guaranteed by the Blob Convention of 2008 in MM prison NPC Delve systems.

Resistance movements of Gent/Convicted Shias supported by Iranian Test/Goons have sprouted. As well, Southern Coalition Sunnis have been spotted. Time will tell if these two traditional enemies will unite to repel invasion by Northerners.

Prior to the invasion, the MM Congress passed a "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of MM Armed Forces Against Delve". The resolution authorized President Vuk Lau to "use any means necessary" against Delve, Members of MM polled in May 2011 widely favored further diplomacy over an invasion, citing possibility for gudfightz if they talked it out.

At a press conference on May 31, 2011, Vuk again reiterated that the single trigger for the invasion would be Delve’s failure to give gudfightz, “The South must understand that if they do not give gudfightz, for the sake of peace, we, along with others, will go give gudfightz to the South.”

tl;dr: boy do we feel stupid for letting our leaders RMT all our income. we're pretty serious karmic fuckheads for letting vuk finance serbian genocide with isk. i don't know what we can do in EVE... hm... let's go fight someone who has even less than we do.

[Elmo]

Incoming epic fail from 404. Aka. Our leader is a retard.

[jimmychrist]

For all the talk of a full standings reset to get back to their roots MM seems to enjoy adding people to their bluelist. Seems counter productive for what they initially came to delve to do. I wonder if/when razor shows up they will continue to do operate like this.

On another note, when MM uses supercaps it is fine, but they were crowing pretty hard about others using them against them up north.

They're not here to ruin the game. They're here to ruin your game.

Incoming epic fail from 404. Aka. Our leader is a retard.

Spill or get out.

[Fix Lag]

Say, did any of you NC [s]niggerdicks[/s] [s]peons[/s] pilots ever find out where three years of tech money went?

[Elmo]

Well apparently, to get sov you need to pay the sov bill.
Long story short, we're gonna lose the TCU during the night.

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

we have no solid sov plans or intentions, but we do like sov and have the ability to take some, so don't be surprised if we do.

I honestly believe MM in it's current state, which is shit, does not have that ability.

[lolol]

Say, did any of you NC [s]niggerdicks[/s] [s]peons[/s] pilots ever find out where three years of tech money went?

Seems like Vuk Lau RTM'ed it, as Kugutsumen.com determined, and they are seemingly happy about it.

How does that make you feel?