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    Quote Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper View Post
    What this thread really needs is more people not involved posting in it.
    Checking in... Has the NC failcascaded yet?

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    The whole situation between PL and the NC seems pretty typical atm. PL and their ~elite~ tengu fleet are slaughtering the NC and the NC don't know what to do. The fact that PL thinks it has anything to do with them being good is sort of funny. Its pretty much going to end up being the same sort of cycle as that Tri went through in this case.

    PL owns the shit out of NC for a while > NC comes up with a semi-effective counter > PL stops fighting because they are actually losing people in fights

    tl:dr PL are the new Triumvirate only they post worse.

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    I'm still a little butt hurt from getting kicked out, thats all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektrea View Post
    I'm still a little butt hurt from getting kicked out, thats all!
    nah m8 I just can't make posts that piss 99% of PL of on PL.com anymore so I am going to do it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unoriginal Bastage View Post
    Checking in... Has the NC failcascaded yet?
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/M...ntier_Alliance
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/DEM0N_HUNTERS
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Gypsy_Band
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Violent_Entity
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/BricK_sQuAD.
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Stella_Polaris.

    Geminate residents who are NC or NC aligned. You be the judge of failcascade. I'd give the MAGE alliances another week or so to let the reality of lost stations sink in before saying one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper View Post
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/M...ntier_Alliance
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/DEM0N_HUNTERS
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Gypsy_Band
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Violent_Entity
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/BricK_sQuAD.
    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Stella_Polaris.

    Geminate residents who are NC or NC aligned. You be the judge of failcascade. I'd give the MAGE alliances another week or so to let the reality of lost stations sink in before saying one way or another.
    You fucked up the links for Brick and Stella btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr View Post
    I can't help but point out the irony of you posting about quality posters
    Irony overload
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faife View Post
    you guys ready for some fleet analysis?

    ready?

    good FCs beat bad FCs.

    that's it. it's not some magical *hacks vs *fleet bullshit, it's the fact that the NC FCs panic, freeze up, and make simple mistakes.

    and sure, there's other conditions like PL having a higher average SP amount, more isk for ships, and knowing the NC fleet setups in advance, but even if they didn't they'd still win because of FCing quality.

    continue with your buzzword laden discussion of amarr vs minmatar vs tengus whatever
    Basically this. It has nothing to do with Tengus, and PL are actually pretty bad at the Tengu fleet. The problem the NC has is that they're worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpshacker View Post
    nah m8 I just can't make posts that piss 99% of PL of on PL.com anymore so I am going to do it here.
    I'm not angry at anything either!!

    ujolly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper View Post
    What this thread really needs is more people not involved posting in it.
    How else are us nobodies supposed to feel involved?

    Also, reading through threads like this is great for getting to know which alliances are a little bit less retarded than the others when looking for a new home.
    My RL friends have finally thrown in the towel, freeing me from the misplaced loyalty I had to a dead corp of people who never logged in.

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    Sounds like you're ready for TEST

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epimetheus View Post
    Worst of all I think, this moves us a step backward to being easily countered. It was widely felt during the recent PL stopover in PB that a lot of the successes came from having 2-3 different fleet types running concurrently and working together. So now it's all hellcats all the time (plus the obligatory "don't-have-anything-else" Drakes ofc)?
    Our FCing is regressing. Switching the specific shiptype our fleet are built around makes sense when they address the issues that lead to our most memorable welps. IE higher base EHP so that maybe just maybe a few more BSes survive the fleet warp while waiting on the titan bridge / jump bridge and a resist bonus, so that it doesn't hurt so much when we decide to kick off a fight with just under 8% of the fleet in logistics.

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    Completely unrelated topic, can we get a widely accepted breakdown on who is on what NC team. Much mention is made of C/D-Teams, but who the hell is B-team? And does it stop at D, or go all the way to F?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpshacker View Post

    tl:dr PL are the new Triumvirate only they post worse.
    I don't know. I can stand PLs posting alot more then I could TRIs constant shit posting during the PB war when they where winning and bitching when they lost.

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    rage/me are so bad you could kill their 200 man gang with 20 competent tempests; you don't need 100 tengus.

    The problem with the nc is that they are cowards; they won't fight with subcaps let alone supers until they have a massive blob advantage. PL see the weakness and they attack, they stand out as defensless prey ready to run at the sight of their predator; cowards always lose in the end because they run tired, its predator that always wins in the end, the one that attacks and not the one that just reacts. The NC don't have a warrior mentality, they only get courage from their blob, and so do their fcs. Its not their blob that wins the fights directly though though its their courage that allows them to go all in that comes from their blob. The ONLY fc, and I MEAN the ONLY fc that is brave enough to muster courage is yaay, without him the nc is a lost cause.

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    Did Imperian die in a rock climbing accident or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poaw View Post
    Did Imperian die in a rock climbing accident or something?
    imperian is a coward, like most europeans.

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    AMERICA TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmehujelly View Post
    AMERICA TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY
    We will bring democracy to your country, like it or not.


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    I for one welcome our new American overlords. \o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elendar View Post
    I'm sure that switching to T1 abbadons instead of maelstroms will greatly improve the NCs ability to kill their enemies. Its not like they need that rof bonus the rate they are currently able to down hostiles.

    I also look forward to them including lokis for people to kill as the only ship that can armour tank and web at range. Didn't want those huginns to have a chance of surviving in fleet anyway right?


    I'm not sure how downgrading your shiptype when the ships have nothing to do with why they are losing is supposed to help things, possibly the plan is to spread the idea that 'High Command' is alive and changing things up to a new and 'better' fleet type to boost moral and numbers.
    I doubt T1 abbadons will improve lifetime of their members under focus of 200 artys. Best example in almost unlaggy fight in C-F where maels were popping like 1-2 seconds faster then abbadons when focused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper View Post
    What this thread really needs is more people not involved posting in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmehujelly View Post
    imperian is a coward, like most europeans.
    more strange words
    i too, at times, confuse internet spaceships with real life prejudices. i offered the foreign legion a few bill and ratting rights if they helped us against the ebil RUS and they were all like "no way bro. RUS too strong. besides, we busy in algeria system". ...damn frogs...cowards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonqueesha Shenaynay View Post
    The only group that can touch the range is the tengu. Everything else has to get closer to the maels than the mael has to be to them. This means that as long as Alpha Fleet can maintain that range, they're good. This also means having awesome huginn / loki pilots and pr0 dictors / hics. And a prepared FC with cloaky alts parked around different perches on grid.



    How so?
    Hey hey i can tell you that NC don't know that arty-abbadons can shot tremor with targeting range script in SB for about 150km and still be better then maels,because their fatasses

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    at PL posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpshacker View Post
    nah m8 I just can't make posts that piss 99% of PL of on PL.com anymore so I am going to do it here.
    I really think you misunderstood PL propers relationship with you FPS; while you saw yourself making witty and sharp trolls that made our blood boil, the reality is that most of us couldn't care less about your inane posting. For sure, when the village idiot smears himself in feces and proudly presents himself for you, you're going to walk circles around him. But you don't get mad, if anything you might get annoyed - but most often I just felt pity. I always viewed you as the loneliest guy in PL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujira View Post
    I really think you misunderstood PL propers relationship with you FPS; while you saw yourself making witty and sharp trolls that made our blood boil, the reality is that most of us couldn't care less about your inane posting. For sure, when the village idiot smears himself in feces and proudly presents himself for you, you're going to walk circles around him. But you don't get mad, if anything you might get annoyed - but most often I just felt pity. I always viewed you as the loneliest guy in PL.
    Lookit how much this dude doesn't care
    Gicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoo View Post
    at PL posting
    this MUST be a bot

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    From TGRAD's corp forums.

    [spoiler=WTB Blob]
    Quote Originally Posted by NATBECKETT
    So basically as the title says, where the hell has the NC blob gone last nights 22:00 form up was baaaaaaaad
    Quote Originally Posted by deathpain
    You mean the one at 22:00 that was supposed to be the biggest NC fleet of all time ? Cap fleet was on time, but not high in numbers, shield fleet was good on numbers but formed late and had 7 logi for a 150 fleet, and then sat about for hours before finally getting welped by a PL T3 fleet, and the armor fleet was the latest of the lot, and I dont know what happened to them in the end.

    However it was my first engagement against PL, and I must say that without the meta gaming, they are really good at what they do. In fact after a terrible formup, and a bad engagement, makes me worry when you see exactly how good PL are...
    Quote Originally Posted by deathpain
    Haha. We aint beating PL like we did last night, that was doomed to fail from the start.

    How would you go about beating down a PL T3 fleet if you was in charge ???
    Quote Originally Posted by NATBECKETT
    like we did last time hot drop them with titans and supers and also alot of webs and target painters help
    Quote Originally Posted by SSN 609
    T3 isn't any different then anything else we have faced. The pure fact is we aren't organized atm. If you think 150 BS hitting 1 target won't vaporize it... well nothing will. We just need to sort out our alpha's and stop having children in fleet that are worried about their precious killmails.
    Quote Originally Posted by CO Bradley
    Quote Originally Posted by SSN 609
    T3 isn't any different then anything else we have faced. The pure fact is we aren't organized atm. If you think 150 BS hitting 1 target won't vaporize it... well nothing will. We just need to sort out our alpha's and stop having children in fleet that are worried about their precious killmails.
    Nailed it... though to be honest I dont think I've ever been in a fleet where I've felt we have our shit together as of late... Honestly I'm tempted to go rat with the precious time I get to play eve instead of losing yet another ship. Seriously people need to get past the 'blob will save us' mentality... It was only a matter of time before the free practice we give to PL and everyone else gave them a massive upper hand. They can pretty much engage 5 to 1 and now worry about taking massive losses because half of our pilots are away from the keyboard or looking for the next chunk of ascii art they are going to post in local. I'm so proud when I see taunts and boasts in local as our entire fleet is getting podded. FFS I know this is just a game but how is this fun? The best part is undocking and getting ready to jump into a slaughter house while people are crying about another blue taking their precious sanctum.

    tldr; im too young to bittervet rage...but seriously wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmehujelly View Post
    The problem with the nc is that they are cowards; they won't fight with subcaps let alone supers until they have a massive blob advantage.
    https://www.pandemic-legion.com/kill...&system=O-LR1H

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    PL frenzied smugposting is an acquired taste, I grant you, but at least there's posting going on.

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    got bubbled running away and taking fight is a big difference

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    This thread reminded me to take my morning crap.

    Thanks guys o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix Lag View Post
    We will bring democracy to your country, like it or not.

    A republic is a form of democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    A republic is a form of democracy
    So is a dictatorship if the dictator is voted in for life by a majority of the people right?

    what im trying to say is, you are retarded.

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    Whether or not the head of state remains in office for life is irrelevent. What matters is where the power of government is drawn from and limitations that are in place.

    Don't worry. Many individuals are ignorant of politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phey Onat View Post
    Whether or not the head of state remains in office for life is irrelevent. What matters is where the power of government is drawn from and limitations that are in place.

    Don't worry. Many individuals are ignorant of politics.
    No, what matters is the commentator's perception of 'democracy', 'republic' or any other description of government.

    The word 'democracy' does not define any concrete parameters in which the government can operate, where exactly its power comes from nor anything else beyond some notion of all stakeholders getting a say (which of course, is not even the case).

    Whatever rules you set out to define a democracy will be subject to all kinds of exceptions, interpretations etc, unless you make it so broad that the definition is meaningless anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGauky View Post
    So is a dictatorship if the dictator is voted in for life by a majority of the people right?

    what im trying to say is, you are retarded.
    No, u. You're confusing parliaments, presidents, republics, monarchies and so on which have nothing to do with being a democracy or not. In fact you have many republics who are democracies and also several examples of dictatorships in parliamentary systems (the dictator being the prime-minister), as well as monarchies which are democracies, etc.

    Not knowing this is only as bad as showing your utter lack of understanding of political systems (or plain English), on the other hand, the fact you called someone a retard on it, makes you an asshole.

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    in b4 tread becomes a political tread and some wild discussions about the future of america.

    Was nice to know u geminate.

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    We should make this thread about wildsides avatar. Then it would be a quality thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtA View Post
    No, u. You're confusing parliaments, presidents, republics, monarchies and so on which have nothing to do with being a democracy or not. In fact you have many republics who are democracies and also several examples of dictatorships in parliamentary systems (the dictator being the prime-minister), as well as monarchies which are democracies, etc.

    Not knowing this is only as bad as showing your utter lack of understanding of political systems (or plain English), on the other hand, the fact you called someone a retard on it, makes you an asshole.
    OK so I am genuinely interested now.

    So are you saying a 'Democracy' is a state in which the sovereignty lies with the people and everything else is just a system of government?

    If this is what you are saying, or something equally broad and meaningless, than you are using the term 'democracy' in a different way to say, the American governments have used it when talking about wars in the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGauky View Post
    OK so I am genuinely interested now.

    So are you saying a 'Democracy' is a state in which the sovereignty lies with the people and everything else is just a system of government?
    Democracy is a form of government in which all citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

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    edit: I was sorry about writing this as soon as I saw your edit. Get out.

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    There is no democracy in my internet spaceships game. Ask Daroh, he knows it even better. Now, get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzor View Post
    oh my god get out

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtA View Post
    Democracy is a form of government in which all citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

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    edit: I was sorry about writing this as soon as I saw your edit. Get out.
    lol my god, if you think that paragraph supports what you are saying, then the discussion is pointless.

    How exactly, in any 'democratic' country in the world, does every citizen have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives? I am a citizen, so is the transport secretary. Do I have an equal say in what percentage of the budget will be spent on subsidising rail fares as he does? No. Does it affect me life? Yes.

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