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    Default YOU ARE EMBARRASSING THE ISD AND CCP THE COMPANY!!

    Last month, I received a cryptic message...

    Hi.

    Well, I must admit, your investigations have been quite thourogh in reguards to this BoB/CCP bullshit. Even as a CCP Vol, surrounded by those who speak naught but ill of you and your 'destructive efforts toward the game we love', I've enjoyed a smile or two at seeing my more shady counterparts squirm. I hate cheaters...

    Problem is, one day I caught them too.
    I wanted to do the RIGHT thing, and went to CCP with it.
    My vol accounts were banned without notice or explaination a few hours after being told they would be investigating things.

    This happened a couple months ago now, but I am not a very revenge minded person to go public with it, especially since my actions are covered via an NDA.

    You provide a bit of a loophole to me.

    How can I be responsible if some 'known hacker type' were to have 'stolen' the info from a secure place where I told the story?

    Logs and such come with it. If this sort of things still occupies your time, and you are interested, let me know.
    I replied:

    Quote Originally Posted by kugutsumen


    I'm quite interested in what you have to disclose and I can help you leak the intel without exposing you. NDA doesn't really matter, especially for an internet spaceship game... Not seen not caught.

    Some of the intel posted on kugu come from various sources. Sometimes a simple hint can point us in the right direction.
    Today I received a reply.

    The first part tell us the story of Mirial, a former ISD member who hacked ISD and later tried to exposing a case of corruption. Sounds familiar?

    The second part covers more recent events (post T20). In a middle of a fight between BoB and the Coalition, a BoB guy who works for CCP QA Department starts ordering a ISD reporter, Raekhan, and gets him banned.

    In his message, Raekhan gives me the permission to repost verbatim... I took the liberty to highlight some segments with big bold red fonts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raekhan

    My apologies for the long delay.

    I promised myself not to get involved in what, at the time, I called "An internet nerd revenge scheme' that was this issue, I felt that bringing this stuff to light would be cheap, and silly, and completely beneath anyone who was actually able to 'move on'....

    Months after, I planned to re-evaluate....that time has passed, I still have no desire to play EVE, and thus, I can tell you some things....

    please PM me with an email address (any email you so choose) to attach a file or two to...

    Now, my story....

    I am also known as Graelyn, a (once) big RP-community-guy. I was the executor of the Aegis Militia Alliance. (We kicked the Bloodraider NPC group out of the Bleak Lands Region, and recently stomped those StarFraction people.)

    The AM guys guys are great GREAT people, and since the below incident ocured, they have safeguarded a very bad secret for a very long time, one that would ensure the dissolution of the RP community we tried so hard to maintain....

    Mirial, once the executor of my Alliance, was banned, the center of what would be referred to as the 'Tetrimon OOC affair'.

    What occured was this:

    Several members of the alliance Aegis Militia were ISD members (completely in regulations and living that double-life as it was intended to be played, by the rules), however, Mirial, who was once an ISD member, managed to get the login/PW info to an ISD forum from a director of her corp who happened to be in ISD. (How this happened is still a mystery even to me, I am still inquiring)...

    Basically, Mirial was accessing an AURORA website illegally, and was banned for it (Something I cannot in any theory disagree with, NDA was broken, and similarly, I can't argue with YOUR banning from EVE, sir...try to understand....), but it was the nature of the thing that caused so much distress....

    You see, ISD claims that events are not rigged, that RP groups can influence the events in the world. This is a lie, and one that, after discovering, I did not reveal, in the fears that it would demolish the already on-the-ropes RP community in EVE.

    AM already had suspicions, as by the end of the Tetrimon affair, we had been involved in more events that ANY other group in EVE without exception. In the course of this we often 'succeeded' in events that we later realized were not meant to be won, then watched as AURORA actors deperately lost the scenario
    (when actors have to resort to self-destructing thier own ships in the middle of battle, you know you have an ulterior motive underway in the story...*groan*...)

    Mirial was in browsing (illegally) one of these ISD forums when one of the 'recommended' story paths was mandated by CCP, namely "_____ side must win, see to this immediately."

    Upon reading this decree by CCP, Mirial showed his cards and revealed all on our alliance's Vent server.

    2 hours after bringing this up in our Ventrillo channel, Mirial was banned from EVE...for telling his Alliance members what was up. Turns out I was only one of many members of ISD in my Alliance, and the others had hit the alarm to the ISD dept heads as soon as this talk beagn in our private Vent server....

    Within 30 minutes (of the reveal in vent) I had 2 AURORA members convoing us INGAME, OOC, trying to play down the fact. The two in question argued with Mirial, but did NOT deny that rigging was going on, rather emphasising that it was all for 'The Greater Good'.

    At the same time, Nebulai, Head of the ISD program, convoed ME (I was second in command of AM, an ISD-InterstallarCorespondents member, and a Mirial banning process was already in motion by 10-minutes into this, I was the primary focus of all damage control efforts), telling a different story, namely that RIGGING NEVER OCCURS, that all I had been hearing was nonsense....

    AT THE SAME TIME, the document that I will give to you, was being sent to me by SEP-DOGAL, the AURORA tier 3 producer in charge of the Tetrimon Arc. He was sending it to me to show how much work had been done/lost with the arc, not realizing that the last paragraphs SPECIFICALLY DETAILED HOW THE ARC COULD BE RIGGED TO SUIT THE FINAL CCP DESCISION.

    The only hint anyone else who played EVE got as to what had occured, came from this post:

    http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...hreadID=405843

    With that, all said 'compromised' arcs were completely terminated, and all events in the matter hushed up quickly. The RP community has longed cursed Mirial's name for 'ruining' all of these arcs, unaware that he was banned for trying to bring this to the community's attention....AM held thier tongues for the good of that community, even after months of shit-talk...they never spoke....bless-em....



    It was a serious palm-to-forehead moment. It was the day I relized how fucked up the game was.


    It did not stop there.

    Eventually, RP being ruined for me, I focused explicitly on my ISD char (His name was Raekhan, a reporter with the ISD for 1.5 years at his termination)

    Complaining about the way Raekhan was banned seems odd to me, considering how much I was able to use him to understand 0.0 realities in a way Alliance leaders can barely approach (I was an Empire-space RP-alliance leader, so conflicts-of-interest never became a problem, and with Raekahn, EVERY DAY I was able to simply jump and watch, from perfect safety, any offensive any Alliance happened to be engaging in. I used my jumpdrives more than any other person in CCP for sure....), but the day I lost Raekhan?

    Sickening and Stupid on the part of CCP, seriously, how could you ever accept the following as proper and effective damage control???

    I was floating around in my Polaris frig, watching one of the massive, 270+-in-local battles in the south, BOB vs COALTION, BoB had already destroyed thier second POS in the system....when I 'text-jumped' (using admin "tr/ 'playername' jumpto command) to a certain Dread pilot I knew was in the action. Doing so teleports a polaris frig to that players ship...at 1 FOOT distance. I jumped to this position and immediately orbitted the gaggle of 20 dreads at 80KM, standard operating proceedure for ISD reporters....

    A minute later, D4kkon, of BoB, began yelling in local "Hey, Reporter, you bumped our dread!!!" This was a falsehood, since the dread I jumped to was on the outside of the group and I made sure not to do just that.

    I ignored him. A year and a half of Reportering and you get used to ALL BoB members trying to order/bully you around. It is a common practice (WAY TOO GODDAMN COMMON) that ISD members are ordered to completely ignore.

    Eventually, Mr. D4kkon began giving me DIRECT ORDERS. "You must leave the system. Now. Move, you shit!!"

    My response?
    "Um...no?"

    Their response was pretty indicative of the manner in which BoB is used to ordering CCP personnel around...in LOCAL CHANNEL of 250+, Daakon replied:

    "Well, I guess I'll have to call up my friends in CCP and get you dealt with."

    I was sitting in ISD's IRC channel, as is required anytime you are logged in as an ISD char, and I decided to inform my dept. head of this development. He seemed amused....

    Until 40 seconds later....

    ISD IRC acounts have a lot of symbols in their usernames. They signify time-in-service, department membership, and other things, but after 40 seconds, a BRAND NEW userID appeared, bereft of any such demarcations or designations...an illegal and brand new ID...

    "Hey, anyone know some reporter named Raekhan!?"
    Me:"Um, yeah, that's me."
    "LEAVE THAT SYSTEM NOW, YOU ARE EMBARRASSING THE ISD AND CCP THE COMPANY!!"
    Me: ORLY!?
    My ISD BOSS: 'ORLY!'

    the next minutes were interesting, as my ISD-IC dept head began briefing me on the minbute-by-minute actions of the internal affairs team (formed after your T-20 revelation I should point out) LEAPED on this matter in seconds.

    Me: "So I guess a BoB director claiming he has CCP buddies at his beckon call, and the fact that said buddy showed up 40 sec later, will raise some heads at CCP?"
    Boss: "Oh, I think it already has...."
    Me: "Well, at least something good will come from all this mess..."
    Boss: "We have his IP address."
    Boss: "He's posting from CCP, he's Staff."
    Boss: He's in the QA department...
    ."

    *after long pause*
    Boss: Well, I'll tell you how this goes tomorrow, take care, Rae..."

    I signed off.

    Turns out, within 3 hours, every ISD-related account I had was banned.

    ISD-ingame char, banned.
    Forum-ISD, banned.
    EVE-Online.com Admin access, banned.
    AURORA-TEAMSPEAK, banned.
    The freaking ISD-COUNTERSTRIKE server, banned.


    I never recieved an email explaining it.
    Every email I have sent to the comany politely asking for even a corp-speak explaination for this has been ignored. The company refuses to admit I exist.

    I was banned for reporting a serious conflict-of-interest to my 'chain-of-command' within the company....

    My character, free to play as a side-benefit of doing work for CCP, was disabled, asking for funds to restart....

    ...and that's the day I walked away....I have never looked back , and the games and projects I've become involved with since then have made me wish I hadn't wasted the 3 years I played EVE....

    Everything I speak of here will be very 'circumstantial' evidence, un-totally-backable events that fanboys will decry as the bitter musings of another EVE dissident.

    Let them think this. I truly do gain pleasure from the axiom of 'a fool and his money are soon parted' and would wish nothing from the majority of the EVE community than to keep sending thier money to this once-great-company-now-conglomerate that I once recruited dozens of players to with conviction.

    It took a lot to convince me of the truth, and not even the 'caught-red-handed' events that YOU exposed to the community could break my fanboy shell....till I saw it myself and kicked myself for being a naive idiot...

    I do not fear CCP's NDA prosecutions, as they possess no hard copy of said document...thank goodness for premature admissions to the program (I never mailed them the required paperwork, but got in anyway, a move I am glad now to have done).

    Anyhow, that's my story.

    None of my enemies ever realized just who I was, and what I could have abused to hurt them. This too is alright by me. Video games are a stupid thing to measure one's dick-size with, a fact that many seem slow to realize....

    (You may quote the entirety of the preceeding text verbatim if you wish. My time in CCP/EVE is long over,. All preceding text is your to use as you wish. I actually do feel a bit dirty being a cog in this very crooked 'crowd control' system, and attempts to reveal it as such to anyone will escape my notice, I am too involved with other projects to care. Best of luck in your efforts....you were right...I was a fool....)

    If you print anything, print this.

    "Graelyn: I was naive. Istvaan, you were right, too damned right, more than you may ever realize, you cocksucker....."


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    this is an update, someone gave us the IRC log for the incident

    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: ok anyone know an ISD named rekan?
    Macayle: why?
    [IC]Raekhan: I'm right here.
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: you need to leave that system
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: you are making an ass of yourself
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: and of ccp
    [IC]Raekhan: ?
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: enticing the player base is not actions that
    you want to do
    [IC]Raekhan: What..are...you....
    [IC]Raekhan: ?
    Cortes feels a facepalm coming on
    [EA]Aristaqis: enticing? Was he putting on a strip show or something?
    [IC]Tsuki facepalms
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: the local player base asked him to politly stop
    pushing dreads
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: that were undergoing a siege operation
    [IC]Raekhan: I was not pushing a dread.
    [IC]Raekhan: I'm 70KM away.
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: it does not matter.. posting in local "no"
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: and that "your not going away"
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: and that all you hear is "static"
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: and to complain to eris discordia
    Admiral_Chamrajnagar: is not helpfull at all
    Cortes: which wouldn't do much good given I'm the IC VA

    slashdot link : http://games.slashdot.org/games/07/05/26/0016226.shtml
    EVE's head of Internal Affairs, GM Arkanon has posted: Dear players.
    Forgive us for being brief, but there has not been much time to
    prepare this statement. Our forums have now been taken down due to
    the load generated by player response to allegations of developer
    misconduct. We urge people to wait until the facts are out, rather
    than taking sensationalist statements at face value. Our preliminary
    findings indicate that what happened what simply a developer doing
    his job ingame. He joined the corporation in order to access their
    POS, which was bugged. We humbly ask our players to trust that the
    internal monitoring of our employers is being taken seriously. The
    current allegations will be fully investigated and we will publish
    our findings at the first opportunity. Please understand that this
    may not be today or tomorrow, but this issue will not be ignored. The
    forums will be brought up again as soon as possible. Thank you for
    your patience and understanding. Arkanon CCP Internal Affairs Now
    this was was removed within an hour or two. Their initial response
    has been to comment on one of 3 specific allegations of misconduct
    and ignore the other two entirely. Somewhat surprising.
    Last edited by BLACK BOX; 2007-05-26 at 03:40 AM.

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    Big surprise...

    I wondered why Rhaekar suddenly disappeared. He was one of the most active reporters and since the time of his departure the news-stories has been lacking in content.

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    Btw the CCP faggot who came yelling on IRC is CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar

    http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?...20Chamrajnagar

    Also on 1st May 2007 in a private message:

    lo kugutsumen

    today i got a nice message from a gm during a convo in local about an error who caused an node reset. just before he left he wrote the following words in local:
    Quote:
    [18:47:59] CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar > be safe.. enjoy killing some D2

    i dunno if its useful for you but i enjoy your work and want to help ya alittle bit.

    yours David
    http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...nagar#post8439


    Update:

    Just hit IGN:

    EVE Devs Addicted to Cheating?

    May 25, 2007 - Uh oh, looks like trouble is afoot once more in the universe of EVE Online, as its developers have been once again accused of cheating in their own live game. Thanks Steejee. CCP has since disabled the official game forums, so it's hard to get any sort of official response to this latest accusation.
    Also on digg:

    http://digg.com/pc_games/EVE_Creator...en_Letter_Made

    EVE Creators CCP Under Fire Again for Alleged Corruption;
    Open Letter Made

    According to the open letter, claims brought forth of corruption have been substantiated involving CCP, creators and maintainers of the MMO EVE Online. It also links several employees to a key power bloc in the game. The distribution of the open letter continues to be censored/removed at the discretion of forum maintainers to control damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kugutsumen View Post
    Btw the CCP faggot who came yelling on IRC is CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar

    http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?...20Chamrajnagar
    hahahah

    is this part actually true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blastercow View Post
    hahahah

    is this part actually true?
    Yes, it has been confirmed by another ISD/CRC defector.

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    The freaking ISD-COUNTERSTRIKE server, banned.
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    I was at that big fight he mentions. I remember being really amazed that the ISD was so obviously ignoring their prolonged bitchfest. It was the first time I actually believed that there were people in ISD/CCP that weren't in BoB's pocket. And we see how that went.

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    among the reasons i deicided to back down from takin a job there also a reason to accept it ;-)

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    yeah when i was in my second stage interview for ISD the interviewer crooned about how he was in BoB and they were the best etc...

    again it all comes down to CCP employees having characters and abusing their access to CCP for their own gains.

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    He probably bumped that dread, you know, and because he was sick of being bullied around by BoB he made a very inconvenient scene. It was a mistake as it seems.

    I just don't see what is wrong with players seeing an "against the rules" intervention from above and reporting it to CCP and the responcible reacting on it? Isn't it what we want?

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    It's times like this when BoD has to step back from their "Proof or STFU" mantra and take a moment for deep introspection. Followed of course by the fallback mantra, "STFU".

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    you mean somthing like transparency?!?

    yeah, well we could have that but then the CCP/GM/ISD assbuddies couldn't have all this fun

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    Anyone who has ever mediated a dispute knows that there are always two sides. Hearing only this one side made me upset at CCP, then I thought for a moment and now I wonder what the full story would be from the other side.

    The whole thing COULD be explained by the Daaken guy filing a stuck petition indicating an ISD guy was bumping dreads... and then just randomly drawing a CCP employee who had a bad day answering the petition. I'm not even going to guess that's what happened, but I have to say this one isn't as clear cut as the T20 event - especially since we've only got one side of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dark green View Post
    Anyone who has ever mediated a dispute knows that there are always two sides. Hearing only this one side made me upset at CCP, then I thought for a moment and now I wonder what the full story would be from the other side.

    The whole thing COULD be explained by the Daaken guy filing a stuck petition indicating an ISD guy was bumping dreads... and then just randomly drawing a CCP employee who had a bad day answering the petition. I'm not even going to guess that's what happened, but I have to say this one isn't as clear cut as the T20 event - especially since we've only got one side of it.
    Glad to see you're not commenting on the CCP employee spying on DarkStar 1 for BOB. Because, really, why else would a CCP employee give himself director status over a corp that just joined Goonswarm and had numerous cap ship pilots?

    Seriously. . .after a certain point I just stop caring. We all know CCP is corrupt as shit. There is absolutely NO denying this. The only questions that remain are A) how corrupt and B) will they try and change their ways? Obviously the answers are horribly and never in a million fucking years.

    It's also obvious that CCP has an intimate relationship w/ BOB that they do NOT want to change regardless of how many times they get caught. I mean, I've seriously been waiting for MONTHS to find out which alliance other than BOB a developer/GM/whomever was in (since BOB and CCP have trolled this bullshit line of propaganda that devs are in EVERY alliance or whatever for ages now) and FINALLY the day has arrived. . .and I find out the guy did it underhandedly just to spy on a GS corp for half an hour. Classic.

    Goons are about to unleash a shitstorm on EVE-O so at least SOME people will find out about this shit. However, I give it all of a day before CCP has everyone gagged and bound and all the wrongdoing swept under the rug. I guess they enjoy being the laughingstock of the MMO community. Hell, when I apply for a job here this month at a major gaming company my main pitch is going to be how much experience I have w/ unethical employees ruining the gaming experience for players and how I can combat that.

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    wait, does this mean we just found another ccp employee working for BoD?


    CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar == Daakon?

    or are they just "friends"?

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    Who wants my stuff? I'm actually starting to hate ccp now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20261124 View Post
    Who wants my stuff? I'm actually starting to hate ccp now.
    I could go for some free shit, alias11 ingame

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    Finally some drama! Kudos to Kugutsumen and Raekhan!

    I wonder if CCP will respond to this or put their heads in the sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20261124 View Post
    Who wants my stuff? I'm actually starting to hate ccp now.
    please give it to oozoo - I will ebay it
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