Titan Rebalance 2012 - "Move the goalposts closer, I can't score"

**penifSMASH** · 2012-03-28

they should bring back aoe DD for 24 hours as a giant troll

**Pielemieni** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

they should bring back aoe DD for 24 hours as a giant troll

Allow titans enter hisec and remove concord for that time too.

ARMAGEDDON 2012!

**Slycat** · 2012-03-28

Can we just start with 'Titans should not be able to shoot dictors' and go from there?

**Adri** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

they should bring back aoe DD for 24 hours as a giant troll

make the aoe effect chance based like jammng

we could debate the appropriate percentage

**Dragon** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

they should bring back aoe DD for 24 hours as a giant troll

Didnt they fuck that up on sisi last year with one of the releases and it scared the shit out of half the people as it was like 3million damage or smth..

**Propagandas** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Slycat

Can we just start with 'Titans should not be able to shoot dictors' and go from there?

If you think titans shooting dictors is a problem then you have never been in a dictor lmao

**jeffraider** · 2012-03-28

should make it so titan pilots can't use their guns right but you have to let someone else board your titan as well and gun for you and then i could be all lolz who wants to enter me rofl

**Player of no importance** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by jeffraider

should make it so titan pilots can't use their guns right but you have to let someone else board your titan as well and gun for you and then i could be all lolz who wants to enter me rofl

That's actually a pretty cool idea

Adding a team component to Titans/Supers probably wouldn't change much for balance, but it would certainly be a lot more fun and make more sense than a single pilot controlling every system simultaneously on a vessel the size of New York City.

Edit: also, why not just remove the Ewar immunity from supers/titans and otherwise leave them alone. Let the players nerf them with fleet tactics (tracking disruptors, etc.). Give it a healthy sig strength to resist, but if you could jam them occasionally, damp, or tracking disrupt, would make them less effective but put the "balance" back into the realm of fleet tactics than heavy handed developer changes.

**syndic thrass** · 2012-03-28

I missed the "when I was incursioning" part but I have now watched every episode of South Park, Sons of Anarchy, Justified (like 4 times), and god knows how many fucking documentaries on Discovery Channel. Someone watched all of the old Star Treks when we were doing Low-Sec Incursions. Now I have like 100b+ in assets and characters etc. Needless to say if you can't make money you are fucking stupid or not trying.

**syndic thrass** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by jeffraider

should make it so titan pilots can't use their guns right but you have to let someone else board your titan as well and gun for you and then i could be all lolz who wants to enter me rofl

3 for tits 2 for suppercerriar m8. 1 for drone 1 for rest.

increase teemwork in tits and suppers

**Iratus** · 2012-03-28

I want to work on a team of tits, if you catch my meaning.

**YeMadBro** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Opti

this kovacs guy is full of it

if i pve for 4 hours per day i still cant buy a titan

50m an hour x 4 hours = 200m x 30 days = 6000 x 10 months = MAYBE A LEVI OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

or maybe hes talking about post patch prices v

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go get a part time job instead and work 4 hours a day and buy plexes with the money thats easily over a bill a day.

**Zev** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Dragon

Didnt they fuck that up on sisi last year with one of the releases and it scared the shit out of half the people as it was like 3million damage or smth..

Nah they updated something but it reveted back to the old AOE DD, CCP couldnt be bothered to change it for the day.

**poaw** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Fix Lag

Greyscale is a fucking idiot and probably why not that much has improved when it comes to shipbalance over the last few years. You can't exactly expect to make progress when the person in charge of doing so at CCP has to be told how the mechanics of the game work.

Everything else aside. Ship balance HAS improved significantly over the years.

**Fix Lag** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by poaw

Everything else aside. Ship balance HAS improved significantly over the years.

Most ships haven't had their stats adjusted since their release, which for the majority of those was in 2004, 2005, or 2006. Weapons systems have been changed. Ships themselves have not, which is why they are planning that huge shenanigans involving the removal of tiers and all that other stuff which I'm counting on them to fuck up as per the usual standard.

**tgr** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Fix Lag

Most ships haven't had their stats adjusted since their release, which for the majority of those was in 2004, 2005, or 2006. Weapons systems have been changed. Ships themselves have not, which is why they are planning that huge shenanigans involving the removal of tiers and all that other stuff which I'm counting on them to fuck up as per the usual standard.

I guess they can fiddle with the tracking algorithm as well, then. Let them do a proper job of the fuckup.

**Don Peyote** · 2012-03-28

Remove weapons from Titans, and instead give them gigantic "mouths"
Titans can use these mouths to "eat" smaller ships, from Frigates to Carriers/Dreadnaughts
In battle, Titan activates eating mechanism, in which it begins sucking in nearby (within 250km) ships
When caught in the pull of the Titan's mouth, ships cannot warp nor jump. The speed at which it travels to the mouth depends on its mass. All other modules and functions work just fine.
Once ships reach a point within 2.5km of the Titan's mouth, the ship and pod are destroyed
Titans must eat 50 subcap ships within 12 hours of Titan pilot logging in, or the Titan starves and self destructs
After using a Titan, the alliance that uses the Titan in a fight must receive at least 10 flame posts or "we need to rebalance titans" posts, on either EVE-O, Kugutsumen or Failheap, or one of their titans will be destroyed

Balanced.

**Adri** · 2012-03-28

tractor beam of DOOM

**Marivauder** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

Remove weapons from Titans, and instead give them gigantic "mouths"
Titans can use these mouths to "eat" smaller ships, from Frigates to Carriers/Dreadnaughts

Reminds me of Cho'Gath from LoL

**Don Peyote** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Marivauder

Reminds me of Cho'Gath from LoL

I don't play League of Aspergers so you'll have to elaborate

**domino** · 2012-03-28

I think the problem here is that people don't understand the skill, dedication and awesome ability required to fly a blapping titan. Happily help is at hand for those without 60 bots ratting in 0.0 with the all new titan pvp simulator:

http://www.freespaceinvaders.org/

**Marivauder** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

I don't play League of Aspergers so you'll have to elaborate

He's a champion that eats other people

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Fix Lag

Most ships haven't had their stats adjusted since their release, which for the majority of those was in 2004, 2005, or 2006. Weapons systems have been changed. Ships themselves have not, which is why they are planning that huge shenanigans involving the removal of tiers and all that other stuff which I'm counting on them to fuck up as per the usual standard.

Am I alone in looking forward to the changes that come of removing tiers? better coordinated role specific bonuses sound pretty cool.

**Arrador** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous

Am I alone in looking forward to the changes that come of removing tiers? better coordinated role specific bonuses sound pretty cool.

Yea watch CCP turn the Ferox into an ECM platform.

**pinoyzzz** · 2012-03-28

If CCP plays the balancing tiers things correctly with some creativity, it could be hilarious and awesome. For example, imagine a bellicose with stronger bomb bonuses than a stealth bomber, but without the ability to warp cloaked.

But then again, it's CCP so they'll just give ships like the Bellicose more tracking or something

**Iratus** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Arrador

Yea watch CCP turn the Ferox into an ECM platform.

Wouldn't be too bad, IMO. A middle ground between the Scorpion and the Blackbird would be nice to have.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-03-28

Originally Posted by Arrador

Yea watch CCP turn the Ferox into an ECM platform.

Or a hurricane with bonuses for short range and the Cyclone being the bombardment ship or however they put it? Maybe even give the tier ones some kind of watered down fleet bonuses.

**Arrador** · 2012-03-29

Originally Posted by Iratus

Wouldn't be too bad, IMO. A middle ground between the Scorpion and the Blackbird would be nice to have.

I'm one of the few retarded caldari pilots who actually likes their turret ships.

**Pilious** · 2012-03-29

All 4 of them?

**Checkbox Poll** · 2012-03-29

can't stop the rokh

**Opti** · 2012-03-30

shit nm ban this cunt he has chosen red clearly not a bright spark

**Venetian Tar** · 2012-03-30

I think this kid has some issues he needs to work out with his parents.

**Sentinel Eeex** · 2012-03-31

Originally Posted by syndic thrass

3 for tits 2 for suppercerriar m8. 1 for drone 1 for rest.

Total Recall was a really fun movie.

**Malcanis** · 2012-03-31

Originally Posted by Arrador

Yea watch CCP turn the Ferox into an ECM platform.

I'd be OK with that

**Propagandas** · 2012-03-31

Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex

Total Recall was a really fun movie.

they are remaking it btw; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386703/

**Gnome** · 2012-03-31

Originally Posted by Propagandas

they are remaking it btw; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386703/

Holy fuck.

Goddamn useless fucking Hollywood can't make new stories...

Bet they wouldn't touch V.A.L.I.S. :-P

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-03-31

Originally Posted by Propagandas

they are remaking it btw; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386703/

Wow. Humanity is so out of original thought they remade this movie? I loved it but I suspect the remake will be as charming as the Miami Vice movie.

Holy shit by the same guy who played a guy who played Sonny Crocket. This movie will be humorless and suck hard.

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