Thank You For Your Donations

[k]

I would to thank you all for your continuous support.

Since the kugutsumen blog was started on Blogspot we have collected:

* 1.7B of ISK donations
* 2B ISK worth of T2 ships
* 2.5B ISK from intel services
* 1B from reinvesting part of this money.

This may look like a lot of money... but we could have made a lot more farming complexes, mining or npcing.

You should also note that most of the donations were made in December; since this web site has been up we have only collected 350M. Thanks to BoB mass-petitions against the character name kugutsumen to stop the flow of donations.

Most of the ISK we collect will be used to finance in-game guerilla and piracy operations against BoB and its pets and allies.

Some of the donors are T2 producers and we really appreciate ships and modules donations. We actually use the ships and don't resale them.

Someone please donate a titan or a mothership

As I said in my e-mail to Kieron my goal has always been to expose corruption, collusion and nepotism between certain CCP and BoB players.

I really love EVE Online and what CCP has accomplished and I am seriously considering taking this whole site down to comply with Kieron's request.

However that will probably not happen as long as DB Preacher and his clique keep their arrogant and hypocrite stance toward this.

They need to accept defeat and negotiate for peace. The price will be:

• DBP Resignation
• 1 Titan
• 1 Mothership
• Apologies from BoB leadership to the EVE Community

All ISK donations and escrows should be made to Tentacle Seduction.

[intresting]

keep it up m8

[ispywithmylittleye]

I really love EVE Online and what CCP has accomplished

So you show your love by releasing this publicly instead of emailing keiron with your supposed evidence?

This release could well destroy the game even if it is proven that is a load of horse shit. People loosing there faith in ccp causing them to close there accounts etc, the bad press, the eve-o haters on mmorpg forums who will still say the devs are corrupted stopping a new influx of players.

You haven't done this to prove anything you have done this for your own personal gratification.

[k]

So you show your love by releasing this publicly instead of emailing keiron with your supposed evidence?

This release could well destroy the game even if it is proven that is a load of horse shit. People loosing there faith in ccp causing them to close there accounts etc, the bad press, the eve-o haters on mmorpg forums who will still say the devs are corrupted stopping a new influx of players.

You haven't done this to prove anything you have done this for your own personal gratification.

Where is the proof matey?

[oozoo]

So you show your love by releasing this publicly instead of emailing keiron with your supposed evidence?

This release could well destroy the game even if it is proven that is a load of horse shit. People loosing there faith in ccp causing them to close there accounts etc, the bad press, the eve-o haters on mmorpg forums who will still say the devs are corrupted stopping a new influx of players.

You haven't done this to prove anything you have done this for your own personal gratification.

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[King Matt]

So you show your love by releasing this publicly instead of emailing keiron with your supposed evidence?

This release could well destroy the game even if it is proven that is a load of horse shit. People loosing there faith in ccp causing them to close there accounts etc, the bad press, the eve-o haters on mmorpg forums who will still say the devs are corrupted stopping a new influx of players.

You haven't done this to prove anything you have done this for your own personal gratification.

I agree in parts, but you missed out that Band of Brothers started us on this path with their quest for personal gratification, knowing no boundaries, doing everything to "w1n".

Take a closer look at their posts during the ASCN war. Avon was even admitting they were never interested in actual PvP, you cannot win that way. Thus the ceaseless propaganda to destroy alliances, now it's all coming back in a tidal wave and it only affects CCP because they are intrinsically involved with BoB had they no Devs with suspicious activities the trail of dirt would never have led to CCP HQ.

All those carefully crafted lines of BoB smack that litter the CAOD forum has laid the foundations for what's happening, those sigs with references to GM "I-win" buttons don't seem so smart now do they? Had forum moderators done their job in the first place and enforced the rules on remaining respectful then there would not be this avalanche of hate ready to unleash on the first scratch in BoBs teflon coating.

ergo it's your bed, now lie in it

Btw - kugutsumen has specifically asked for people not to take this to gaming media.

[ispywithmylittleye]

Where is the proof matey?

ha is that all you have to say? No rebuttal about questioning your love for the game?

[icorion]

ha is that all you have to say? No rebuttal about questioning your love for the game?

here is my rebuttal

[ispywithmylittleye]

Btw - kugutsumen has specifically asked for people not to take this to gaming media.

Come on anyone with a little brain power would know that a story claiming a Dev or 2 are corrupt in a game that has won countless awards and being voted best MMORPG on numerous websites including MMORPG.com itself is a story to hot to not print. Just think of all those referrals and ad banner clicks they will get get.

[King Matt]

Come on anyone with a little brain power would know that a story claiming a Dev or 2 are corrupt in a game that has won countless awards and being voted best MMORPG on numerous websites including MMORPG.com itself is a story to hot to not print. Just think of all those referrals and ad banner clicks they will get get.

and then the makers of the game got "socially engineered" by some of the players

Proof! so stfu!

[ispywithmylittleye]

I agree in parts, but you missed out that Band of Brothers started us on this path with their quest for personal gratification, knowing no boundaries, doing everything to "w1n".

If this was a different alliance ASCN,D2 and BoB found this out I am sure they would understand the ramifications of releasing all of this to the general public and instead hand it over to CCP to investigate and wait to see if there response was satisfactory before publication.

Of course you will still get the odd arrogant idiot who has found out posting sly remarks in threads regarding that alliance but none of this seeking glory asking for money to further there own gains before releasing further information. That isn't love for the game at all.

[King Matt]

Considering what kugutsumens revealed you're obviously wrong about BoB - instead they'd ask for a share of the ISK like they do with macroers.

Look, you're shit at this, you're obviously new to BoB. Your arguments are weak and your ideas lack thought. I don't think you'll be able to gain a promotion by trying to counter what's been posted. Continue if you must, but i don't think a retard like you will get far.



Edit: or BoB would try to get top members of D2 banned then announce it publically to gain support and then attack D2 claiming moral high ground and assuring victory - sound familiar? I think it does.

[icorion]

If this was a different alliance ASCN,D2 and BoB found this out I am sure they would understand the ramifications of releasing all of this to the general public and instead hand it over to CCP to investigate and wait to see if there response was satisfactory before publication.

Of course you will still get the odd arrogant idiot who has found out posting sly remarks in threads regarding that alliance but none of this seeking glory asking for money to further there own gains before releasing further information. That isn't love for the game at all.

i think if bob found this out they would milk it for all it's worth and more because apparently bob does not have any love for the game if they arent winning regardless of the costs

say what you will about kuts but at least he isn't getting t2 bpo or informational hookups by his developer friends

[ispywithmylittleye]

i think if bob found this out they would milk it for all it's worth and more because apparently bob does not have any love for the game if they arent winning regardless of the costs

say what you will about kuts but at least he isn't getting t2 bpo or informational hookups by his developer friends

Matt: who says I am BoB? How would I be looking for promotion when my ingame name is not revealed?

As for RKK getting T2 bpos from devs do you not think that if they were obtained by the dev deviously that he would spawn more than just ammo bps and a Sabre bpo? That when this petition was filed and he was asked to move corps that the bpos he had would have been taken off him if they were obtained incorrectly or are you under the belief the whole of ccp is under bob control? Every GM and every Dev?

[King Matt]

Matt: who says I am BoB? How would I be looking for promotion when my ingame name is not revealed

The weak arguments give you away as a lowly BoB pilot looking to make a mark. You're job is to turn up on Tranquility and be ready as much as possible. In fights you follow instructions given over TS precisely. Nothing more is required of you, think of yourself as a drone that responds to voice commands.

[ispywithmylittleye]

or BoB would try to get top members of D2 banned then announce it publically to gain support and then attack D2 claiming moral high ground and assuring victory - sound familiar? I think it does.

I don't think they would need to announce it publically as it would become pretty public when CCP announce the bannings and firing of there members of staff to prove to the community they take these things seriously.

[ispywithmylittleye]

The weak arguments give you away as a lowly BoB pilot looking to make a mark. You're job is to turn up on Tranquility and be ready as much as possible. In fights you follow instructions given over TS precisely. Nothing more is required of you, think of yourself as a drone that responds to voice commands.

Basically a Goon right?

[King Matt]

As for RKK getting T2 bpos from devs do you not think that if they were obtained by the dev deviously that he would spawn more than just ammo bps and a Sabre bpo? That when this petition was filed and he was asked to move corps that the bpos he had would have been taken off him if they were obtained incorrectly or are you under the belief the whole of ccp is under bob control? Every GM and every Dev?

The dev was outed by someones alt and specifically accused of rigging the T2 lottery. We don't know what actually happened, we have to wait for CCPs investigation. However, you cannot deny that him being outed and leaving the corp but leaving his T2 BPO collection behind for corp use is just a little bit odd.

[King Matt]

I don't think they would need to announce it publically as it would become pretty public when CCP announce the bannings and firing of there members of staff to prove to the community they take these things seriously.

BoB likes to ride the propaganda wave, do you really think something juicy would be turned down?

[King Matt]

Basically a Goon right?

No, really, a drone that responds to voice commands.

[ispywithmylittleye]

The dev was outed by someones alt and specifically accused of rigging the T2 lottery. We don't know what actually happened, we have to wait for CCPs investigation. However, you cannot deny that him being outed and leaving the corp but leaving his T2 BPO collection behind for corp use is just a little bit odd.

Not really looks like he spent a lot of time with the corp and enjoyed his time there if he was asked to move because of the suspicion it was causing with him being in a top alliance corp, do you really think that CCP would just say oh yeah someone said you were rigging the T2 lottery just move out of the corp we wont invesitigate the BPO you have and how you got them?

[King Matt]

Not really looks like he spent a lot of time with the corp and enjoyed his time there if he was asked to move because of the suspicion it was causing with him being in a top alliance corp, do you really think that CCP would just say oh yeah someone said you were rigging the T2 lottery just move out of the corp we wont invesitigate the BPO you have and how you got them?

I haven't suggested any CCP reaction as I have no idea what happened.
If I had 8 T2 BPOs I wouldn't leave them behind with a corp I no longer belong to - I'd take them with me, like I'd expect most people to do, as I hear they are a good source of income.

^^ your failure to spot such simple logic is why I keep calling you a retard btw, just incase you were wondering

[ispywithmylittleye]

I haven't suggested any CCP reaction as I have no idea what happened.
If I had 8 T2 BPOs I wouldn't leave them behind with a corp I no longer belong to - I'd take them with me, like I'd expect most people to do, as I hear they are a good source of income.

^^ your failure to spot such simple logic is why I keep calling you a retard btw, just incase you were wondering

Well thats you and how you behave you shouldnt expect other people to act the same way you do that wouldnt be logical at all everyone acts different, some people are generous others are scrooges.

[King Matt]

Give me 8 T2 BPOs to prove it.

proof or stfu!

[ispywithmylittleye]

Give me 8 T2 BPOs to prove it.

proof or stfu!

Don't have any to give plus I havent spent a considerable time with you in corp working together

[lindberg]

If this was a different alliance ASCN,D2 and BoB found this out I am sure they would understand the ramifications of releasing all of this to the general public and instead hand it over to CCP to investigate and wait to see if there response was satisfactory before publication.
Of course you will still get the odd arrogant idiot who has found out posting sly remarks in threads regarding that alliance but none of this seeking glory asking for money to further there own gains before releasing further information. That isn't love for the game at all.

In teh past BoB or what call them now didnt kept such quiet from other either , in fact they " molested " that person on eve-o .....

[King Matt]

Don't have any to give plus I havent spent a considerable time with you in corp working together

So you're guessing at what T2 BPO owners would so with their property with no real conception of what it is to be a T2 BPO owner.

That aside, you've provided one of your weakest arguments yet

[ispywithmylittleye]

In teh past BoB or what call them now didnt kept such quiet from other either , in fact they " molested " that person on eve-o .....

As seems to be the way of this forum:

PROOF or STFU

[ispywithmylittleye]

So you're guessing at what T2 BPO owners would so with their property with no real conception of what it is to be a T2 BPO owner.

That aside, you've provided one of your weakest arguments yet

Doesn't matter what the virtual item is if someone is generous they are generous.

Or maybe when the devs character was outed and he was told that he had to leave the account as per t20 had to do in the past. The heart ache of having to leave an account and friends that he had worked hard for the dev decided that he did not want to start from scratch and chose to not play the game again thus not having a new character to transfer assets to. Instead choosing to transfer his legitmate items to the corp he spent so much time ingame with?

[BOBISCAUGHT]

So you show your love by releasing this publicly instead of emailing keiron with your supposed evidence?

This release could well destroy the game even if it is proven that is a load of horse shit. People loosing there faith in ccp causing them to close there accounts etc, the bad press, the eve-o haters on mmorpg forums who will still say the devs are corrupted stopping a new influx of players.

You haven't done this to prove anything you have done this for your own personal gratification.

Go Away Bobbette Your Caught and the Party is Over for your Crooked Cheating WTFPWNZORZ-BUTWEREALLYCHEAT Alliance.

Hiya Josephine.,,, Forum Propaganda not Working Next Time you post here please try to do it a bit differently.

[Nekumi]

Doesn't matter what the virtual item is if someone is generous they are generous.

Or maybe when the devs character was outed and he was told that he had to leave the account as per t20 had to do in the past. The heart ache of having to leave an account and friends that he had worked hard for the dev decided that he did not want to start from scratch and chose to not play the game again thus not having a new character to transfer assets to. Instead choosing to transfer his legitmate items to the corp he spent so much time ingame with?

Whatever way you paint that, whether it be the truest of the truest things to do it is still highly dubious. IF a developer would hand off any item to normal players, questions will always be asked. That is why they must remain anonymous in the first place.

[King Matt]

Doesn't matter what the virtual item is if someone is generous they are generous.

Or maybe when the devs character was outed and he was told that he had to leave the account as per t20 had to do in the past. The heart ache of having to leave an account and friends that he had worked hard for the dev decided that he did not want to start from scratch and chose to not play the game again thus not having a new character to transfer assets to. Instead choosing to transfer his legitmate items to the corp he spent so much time ingame with?

If he stopped playing the game then a dev giving T2 BPOs to the top alliance in the game seems a stupid thing to do, why not give them to one of his dev mates or countless other options?

[Kojio Kiiske]

I would like to see the IPs from the original RKK boards cross-referenced with these boards to see who some of these BoB P.R alts are, as they are obviously running damage control.

I wouldn't be suprised if that was j0sephine, sounds like her benevolent, yet signature ignorant mind.

[King Matt]

The guys almost certainly UK, I recognise the stench of "excuse culture" with his persistent looking for a legitimate reason in the face of overwhelming evidence.

We don't actually know the full story, we're waiting for CCP to conduct their investigation, which I'm sure may take some time yet.

[icorion]

you guys are dumb just make fun of it

[lindberg]

As seems to be the way of this forum:

PROOF or STFU

Hints

Rockduiveltje
DB Mephisto
Undertaker
Evol
RKK
Krullz
CDI

HF @ eve-search

[MarcusTheMartin]

I enjoy this little blog but could our donations provide some sort of guarantee that your not slipping trojans into our hd's

[Raste]

Keep up the good work. Even without the info being revealed, its nice having a board to talk eve that a lot of the heavier mouthbreathers avoid because "OMFG HE CAN FIND OUT UR IP!!!!".

[King Matt]

Keep up the good work. Even without the info being revealed, its nice having a board to talk eve that a lot of the heavier mouthbreathers avoid because "OMFG HE CAN FIND OUT UR IP!!!!".

The fact we're discovering what it is they are trying to hide here is the icing on the cake.

[downl0lz]

Not really looks like he spent a lot of time with the corp and enjoyed his time there

Well thats you and how you behave you shouldnt expect other people to act the same way you do that wouldnt be logical at all everyone acts different, some people are generous others are scrooges.

And why exactly would someone who according to your own words didn't spend a lot of time with the corp and didn't enjoy his time there leave T2 BPOs behind when he is removed from that corp?
The logical answer to that is: there is no reason why he would.

Edit:

The heart ache of having to leave an account and friends that he had worked hard for the dev decided that he did not want to start from scratch and chose to not play the game again thus not having a new character to transfer assets to. Instead choosing to transfer his legitmate items to the corp he spent so much time ingame with?

Make up your mind, will you?

[goonygoon]

anthonyz i would donate to your cause but i don't have a lot of isk or a steady income

keep up the good work though, this stuff is gold

[Raste]

The heart ache

:dog:

[Alex Clomsaver]

As I said in my e-mail to Kieron my goal has always been to expose corruption, collusion and nepotism between certain CCP and BoB players.

Then what was up with all the stuff you were posting in the goon forums?

[MarcusTheMartin]

Then what was up with all the stuff you were posting in the goon forums?

That was foreplay

[BOBISCAUGHT]

I enjoy this little blog but could our donations provide some sort of guarantee that your not slipping trojans into our hd's

Actually a alt from a alt corp tried this in Eve general forums last night.
Trojan alert do not come to this forum or you will have a trojan.
PATHETIC TBH

He/She/It was shot down by a bunch or regulars LOL

[Feathersword]

I've seen several people post warnings about trojans from here, but nobody named which trojans (while claiming to work for an internet security company). A keylogger was mentioned as well.

We'll see. If that's the case then it won't be long before there's going to be another "keylogger alert" message when we log in to EvE again.

I know who to blame when I log on and find that my collection of T2 ship BPOs and 425mm T2 rail BPO is missing.

Also have seen people shoot it down who claim to work for an anti-virus company.

[Shamis Orzoz]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if somebody tries to discredit this site by posting a link here that takes you to something nasty.

There are definitely some people who are right now trying to frame kugutsumen for some other crimes as well.

Just be careful of what you click on here, you won't get any malware from these forums, but that doesn't mean somebody wont' try to link to something.

[lol]

u got 2 accounts banned mate sound like ur the one bein defeated. u need to change ur strats or somethin cuz right now those guys r winning.

hey retard if you want to post shit go back to eve-o

[Alex Clomsaver]

Just becuase someone goes against the group mentality doesn't mean he is a retard. On the one hand I think Kugutsumen has done a good job tearing away Bob's image -noone thinks they are "clean" anymore- but on the other I see very little real change going on in CCP's future.

[notAspy]

Just becuase someone goes against the group mentality doesn't mean he is a retard. On the one hand I think Kugutsumen has done a good job tearing away Bob's image -noone thinks they are "clean" anymore- but on the other I see very little real change going on in CCP's future.

Awesome post about this on eve-o here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...0422&page=3#64

And here it is quoted just in case:

Man, seriously. . .you need to start trying to get the plank outta yer own eye before you go screaming about the speck in everyone else's.

The dirt that this guy let loose about BOB is higher than Mount Everest and I would guess it's probably all true. Why? Because it would have been SPECTACULARLY EASY to prove the guy wrong if he was lying.

First, his main accusation was that a dev was giving T2 BPOs to BOB. He showed a post where the guy had a detailed list of said BPOs he gave to BOB. So, it would be really easy for CCP to check their T2 logs (which according to CCP they keep track of relentlessly) and which characters had those BPOs. If the BOB guys had them then that kinda shows some guilt on their part and the devs part doesn't it? Cause I don't see how he could have known exactly which ones they had to lie about them.

Second, he showed a post which detailed a TON of BOB members and their alts. If he had lied about the whole thing it wouldda been really easy for CCP (or folks who owned those characters but weren't in BOB and could prove it) to say that he'd lied.

However, CCP hasn't said a peep about the deal. So, if he was lying about the ENTIRE thing and whatnot it would have been easy for CCP to nip this in the bud from the get go. The problem is. . .he ISN'T lying about this deal. So, the only response the BOB leadership has is "He's a hacker so you shouldn't believe him!" and "You guys are idiots!" Not surprising.

I mean, I feel sorry for the majority of BOB's membership because they probably think that they really are that uber-1337 or whatever on their own. I bet most of them have no idea what's really going on with their alliance and they just do like they're told. Meanwhile, their leadership is profiting from EBay sales and ISK farmers, getting T2 BPOs from their dev friends, and no telling what else while flaming everyone on Eve-O and acting superior to everyone.

Really, in the end it is on CCP's shoulders where the blame should lay. They keep telling us all how the devs need to play their own game and whatnot. . .yet the devs obviously have an advantage over the common player and they're taking away parts of the game from us. I have lotsa research points saved up which I paid CCP money every month to earn through my playing time. Well, now it turns out their devs are stealing the chance for me to benefit from those points. So, basically, I paid CCP so a dev could eat, have a place to sleep, put gas in his car, go out and drink at the pub every night, AND hoard the thing I was paying CCP to try and get. Does that not strike anyone else as screwed up??? Whether he gave the BPOs to BOB or not is irrelevant. The fact that he had like 12 BPOs is what matters. Devs shouldn't have access to stuff like that unless they are spawning it for themselves alone to test out and then they trash it themselves. They shouldn't be keeping it from the rest of the PAYING community.

Folks need to wake up and realize what's going on instead of running around talking down anyone that voices some concern and calling them stupid and telling them to get out their tinfoil hat.