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    Quote Originally Posted by Horus View Post
    Only thing this battle showed up is that Wn depends totally on his allies, and depending on RA is pratically a suicide, considering they cant do more than show up in a couple of key timers than return south. so is merely a question of time , if -A- got any brain they should attack and keep busy ra, so wn die in north.
    Wn show up with 15 titan and what 10 ms really? when we where 2000 not 2700 like now with the new corps, we where fielding 20 titan and 35-40ms in HED. where they are gone?
    CFC is made up of alliances that is also it depends on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas Quaan View Post
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=2454

    Killed a bit less, worth about the same, although you did complete the objective which counts for most of the win/loss argument. For some reason there are a few kills missing on the brdoc report, possibly when the pilots reshipped and appear twice, and EVE-kill can't sort for shit, so you need to look at both to get the full picture. I just wish we could get a proper tool from CCP to stop having to do this every time someone pulls numbers after a fight.
    Reshipping should be taken into account.

    Can you provide me an example link, what kills are missing on a certain report? Then i may have a look at it.

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    meanwhile in vale; rdn tits vs test bc, not good

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    It's almost like people have never played this game before.

    Supercaps are great for piling into some :redpencta: timer and wagging your genitalia, but the vast majority of the effect is psychological. It only breaks the morale of the enemy if they themselves believe the myth of invincibility. Besides maybe in the Legion of the Pandemics, supercap pilots are among your least active and least gung ho players. Sure they'll all log in for the big "hellcamp" or timer brawl, but their participation quickly drop when they're shooting sbus across ten systems every day. Furthermore, the blob can't be everywhere at once, and the more you split it up, the more its psychological and actual power decreases exponentially.

    Sure, 75 titans is really impressive. We should all be amazed. However, it will be 3/4 of that next time, and another 3/4 of that the time after. Then the numbers will slowly bleed away as people decide not to log in their 80b space penis to shoot sbus like it's a job. Then eventually you catch one making a mistake, or a few split up because people get cocky and complacent, and then all your pixelated spaceship might amounts to nothing because in the end it's just 75 guys, with all the weaknesses and vulnerabilities that entails.

    WN and Raiden aren't PL. They aren't the balls to the wall heroes of various Y- systems; they're the DRF, NC, IT blobwar kiddies, and they'll melt away again like they've done before as soon as the battle goes beyond x up for blobbing one system once per week. All you need to do is keep fighting, and not let yourself be swayed by the extremely fragile and unwieldy tool that is the supercap blob.

    /end essay

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    Isn't the Branch war about sov? So surely the only measure of how it's going is how much sov is taken or defended? The fight yesterday seemed to be about people just wanting to fight, they'd done all the sov stuff before it had started.

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    You need to beat them into passivity so you can grind structures in peace.

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    You see losing all the sov objectives yesterday was just to make the combined forces of bad posting over confident before the trap was sprung. Now the CFC has lost all those battleships and only killed suicide triage carriers in return they will reassess the situation and in a moment of blinding clarity see the truth. This is all folly and is but the first domino to fall in an unstoppable sequence of losses that will lead to the Goons 0.0 dream to be ended in an unrelenting wave of elite pvp and smug posts.

    Well played White Noise, well played indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domino View Post
    Isn't the Branch war about sov? So surely the only measure of how it's going is how much sov is taken or defended? The fight yesterday seemed to be about people just wanting to fight, they'd done all the sov stuff before it had started.
    The flow of sov was going to goons thick and fast at the beginning of the war because we were deployed on the opposite side of eve. Now we are back we can try to stem the flow.

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    It doesn't matter how many titans they have, our skymarshal is way hotter than theirs :3
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    And we have a Machariel who has managed to not die for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domino View Post
    Isn't the Branch war about sov? So surely the only measure of how it's going is how much sov is taken or defended?
    Ironically, you couldn't be more wrong. Who holds the sov is really only relevant insofar as it dictates what timers both sides might fight on should they choose to.

    Sovwar is all about morale. Your target is the enemy players and your goal is to make them leave their alliance, not log in, or play like shit because they're demoralized. Then, when they represent no tangible threat, that's when you take all their sov. Until then, sov is just another possible venue from which to attack their morale and shape the discourse.

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    This sanctum is putting up more of a defense for their Pith Station than WN. did in BKG.

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    i have to stop +repping you, syndic. stop making me do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahlregen View Post

    Its cold in space


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    Actually reflecting on the strategic situation, this war will be won by whoever breaks down and hires PL first, which will be WN, so WN will win. I assume PL have positioned themselves for this and expected this outcome all along, which is why they really don't (didn't) want to see WN collapse before they could rally and have something left worth paying to defend.

    If goons were smart, they'd hire PL now and drive this puppy home, letting future tech income from tenal, vale, and branch recoup the cost. However, they won't, so they'll lose.

    This war just suddenly got far less interesting...

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    The new currency in EVE is PL.

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    We don't need to hire PL. We just need to strategically position a bunch of TEST Drakes in-between our fleet and PL's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    Ironically, you couldn't be more wrong. Who holds the sov is really only relevant insofar as it dictates what timers both sides might fight on should they choose to.

    Sovwar is all about morale. Your target is the enemy players and your goal is to make them leave their alliance, not log in, or play like shit because they're demoralized. Then, when they represent no tangible threat, that's when you take all their sov. Until then, sov is just another possible venue from which to attack their morale and shape the discourse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    Actually reflecting on the strategic situation, this war will be won by whoever breaks down and hires PL first, which will be WN, so WN will win. I assume PL have positioned themselves for this and expected this outcome all along, which is why they really don't (didn't) want to see WN collapse before they could rally and have something left worth paying to defend.

    If goons were smart, they'd hire PL now and drive this puppy home, letting future tech income from tenal, vale, and branch recoup the cost. However, they won't, so they'll lose.

    This war just suddenly got far less interesting...

    How often do you get two equally insightful comments that are so wildly contradictory. Assuming that WN. is hiring PL to take back sov.

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    I don't see them as contradictory. The first quote was just a regurgitation of textbook, broadly-applicable sovwar theory, which then led to the contemplation of the actual specifics of this particular situation, which then in turn led to the second quote.

    The second admittedly represents a large jump in focus, but I don't feel that it in any way contradicts the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanamingo View Post
    We don't need to hire PL. We just need to strategically position a bunch of TEST Drakes in-between our fleet and PL's.
    You monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glomp View Post
    The new currency in EVE is PL.
    Mom can I borrow 100 PLs for the week? I'm going to show this bully at school what's what!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glomp View Post
    The new currency in EVE is PL.
    The tree of good PVP must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of loss mails and the isk of the highest bidder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanamingo View Post
    We don't need to hire PL. We just need to strategically position a bunch of TEST Drakes in-between our fleet and PL's.
    You must have missed the part of TEST SOTA where Shadoo basically said that it's no problem being friends while shooting each other. His point is pretty clear; if TEST get in the way, they will get blown up (in a friendly manner, ofc).

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    Yes, thank you. That's the idea, you see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome View Post
    You must have missed the part of TEST SOTA where Shadoo basically said that it's no problem being friends while shooting each other. His point is pretty clear; if TEST get in the way, they will get blown up (in a friendly manner, ofc).
    I think the intention of that post was that you would indeed be blown up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    The flow of sov was going to goons thick and fast at the beginning of the war because we were deployed on the opposite side of eve. Now we are back we can try to stem the flow.
    Be good to have some decent fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marivauder View Post
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    Just 1 more month. Then you can reopen it as "dek by feb"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    If goons were smart, they'd hire PL now and drive this puppy home, letting future tech income from tenal, vale, and branch recoup the cost.
    They allready tried.
    I hear joining 800 man fleets to take sov is a great way to spend your internet spaceship time when you dont need the money m8 )))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grath View Post
    Hey Vily, did you tell goons about how you joined PL, then broke down crying when you found your whining and bitching smeared all over the forum porn section?
    THEN had the balls to demand it be taken down?
    THEN rage quit like the fucking fat little girl you are when it wasn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagandas View Post
    They allready tried.
    I hear joining 800 man fleets to take sov is a great way to spend your internet spaceship time when you dont need the money m8 )))
    I was mainly thinking paying you to stay off of the other side, though your special brand of space terrorism on the edges (edit: "periphery", that's the word I wanted to use) of the blobfests and critical supercap contribution would obviously add significant value to the campaign and still allow you to maintain your independence and entertainment.

    As someone who's been on the receiving end, I think the psychologically grinding impact of knowing that a wild fleet of tengus and supercaps could appear at any moment under most circumstances is far more damaging than your marginal contribution to blobwars.

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    As someone who's been on the receiving end, I think the psychologically grinding impact of knowing that a wild fleet of tengus and supercaps could appear at any moment under most circumstances is far more damaging than your marginal contribution to blobwars.
    Confirmed. This is the kind of fear we put into the silly dread who sieged on a gate to kill an SBU a few days ago.
    Poor guy never saw it coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    stuff

    /propaganda
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    Not sure who I'm propagandizing for...

    ...regardless, nulli won't get any tech in the end no matter who wins, so suck a dick ROFL

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    1696 attempts and still no sighting of a good post by Some Market Dude

    I guess being an ex-NC tryhard forum spammer makes you dumb in the head and post stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    Not sure who I'm propagandizing for...

    ...regardless, nulli won't get any tech in the end no matter who wins, so suck a dick ROFL
    Dislikes a posters response to his post

    See's the poster's alliance in his location

    Make's retarded irrelevant smack talk attempt against said alliance.

    Ends the smack talk sentence with a ROFL instead of a period.

    Is Some Market Dude.

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    It read like Goon propaganda (i.e., 'doesn't matter that they're dropping tits now, keep it up and they'll get bored eventually'), and besides, we don't want no steenking tech. I've heard it causes weight gain and compulsive use of Cyrillic.

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    hahahahaha Oh man, nulli + tech = hilarity. That was too easy.

    Anyway, as usual Penif posts truth through bile; gonna take a posting break as it's killing my productivity today.

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    It is ok as once this is all over Tech will be nerfed anyway. I am using my 30 boxing fleet of Dread alts to take all the Chromium which will be the new Tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glomp View Post
    It is ok as once this is all over Tech will be nerfed anyway. I am using my 30 boxing fleet of Dread alts to take all the Chromium which will be the new Tech.
    My money is riding on Thulium being the new bottleneck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Market Dude View Post
    hahahahaha Oh man, nulli + tech = hilarity. That was too easy.

    Anyway, as usual Penif posts truth through bile; gonna take a posting break as it's killing my productivity today.
    Really? Odd. It looked like your shitpost production was right on par with your norm.
    This is my shitpost. There are many like it but this one is mine.

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    it surprises me Wn didn't hire PL the moment they saw 1st goon in branch....wn can afford them easily ; but maybe Pl don't want that 800 bil per month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yobdab View Post
    it surprises me Wn didn't hire PL the moment they saw 1st goon in branch....wn can afford them easily ; but maybe Pl don't want that 800 bil per month
    Or maybe WN. are honourable and wouldn't let others fight their battles.

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    PL will be up here whether we hire them or not, the quest for relevence and attention is at the heart of most PL. After that good fites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    PL will be up here whether we hire them or not, the quest for forum porn, tears and attention is at the heart of most PL. After that good fites.
    Pretty accurate

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