Start the War Engines: Branching out to Branch

[dabigredboat]

You mean a WN tower, Goonbro!

Also, with a fleet of roughly 100 man, having IRC exploded and very little WN presense in system, having a local of 600 people, I would hardly call warping off to a POS being "not good allies". Unless good allies stay outnumbered 4-5:1 and die in a fire.

This is the THIRD FUCKING FIGHT MATE in which you guys sat at 100-150km, shot a few ships, and when everyone was dead, warped out and ran away. First fight you logged tengus for 2 hours, second flight you lost 10 tengus, ran to a station and then ran out the door. 3rd fight you sat at 100km in rokhs, waiting on all the drakes to die, and spent time in a pos before losing 20 ships running away. When have you not ran away?

Oh and we had 450 vs 310, dunno where 600 comes from, maybe more bob style propaganda.

[cflux]

Quick Question:

Why do you copy other peoples fleet comps, PL's tengu and rokh fleet

But why don't you steal one of the best fleet comps... the alpha fleet.

I would copy any fleet choice that works and use it.

I wrote the 10 page tldr regarding alpha fleet usage in mass numbers for IT with Gery, who did the fits which then spread like wildfire. You can most likely find it easily on various forums. Even that was not a new idea by any means. Just a rehash from a really old one.

[Headblast]

Quick Question:

Why do you copy other peoples fleet comps, PL's tengu and rokh fleet

But why don't you steal one of the best fleet comps... the alpha fleet.

As stated earlier, the Rokh is hardly a copy, as it has been an alliance fit for months. I think where we differ from PL, is that the pilots in Raiden. are not as skillpoint-heavy as PL, meaning we have a longer training time before we have sufficient numbers to create a somewhat cohesive fleet setup within a given doctrine.

The alpha fleet copy I have no idea about. Maybe it's a decision based on having 100 alpha ships vs. 400 alpha ships won't do any good, so trying different ships and setups that give a better result is the way to go? I wouldn't know, as I am not one of the EFT warriors. Personally, I just hope we roll out in Tempests just because the ship looks awesome.

[Gnome]

Quick Question:

Why do you copy other peoples fleet comps, PL's tengu and rokh fleet

But why don't you steal one of the best fleet comps... the alpha fleet.

Because alpha fleet is shit-on-a stick. Using a doctrine based on the game being fail is kind of not why we play this game, and dislike your side so much.

Making it easy to win is not why we engage, hard as it may be to see from your perspective.

Edit: Jippi! Negrep, jævlar! :-P

[Checkbox Poll]

As stated earlier, the Rokh is hardly a copy, as it has been an alliance fit for months. I think where we differ from PL, is that the pilots in Raiden. are not as skillpoint-heavy as PL, meaning we have a longer training time before we have sufficient numbers to create a somewhat cohesive fleet setup within a given doctrine.

The alpha fleet copy I have no idea about. Maybe it's a decision based on having 100 alpha ships vs. 400 alpha ships won't do any good, so trying different ships and setups that give a better result is the way to go? I wouldn't know, as I am not one of the EFT warriors. Personally, I just hope we roll out in Tempests just because the ship looks awesome.

skillpoints are a non-issue as t1 gunned rokhs are nearly as good as t2

[Heaviside]

Because alpha fleet is shit-on-a stick. Using a doctrine based on the game being fail is kind of not why we play this game, and dislike your side so much.

The shit is yours, that stick has been raping you.

VVV You guys should get together on your stories then.

[Some Market Dude]

uhhh I'm pretty sure rohkfleet IS an alphafleet

as always, happy to being corrected if i am wrong

[Headblast]

This is the THIRD FUCKING FIGHT MATE in which you guys sat at 100-150km, shot a few ships, and when everyone was dead, warped out and ran away. First fight you logged tengus for 2 hours, second flight you lost 10 tengus, ran to a station and then ran out the door. 3rd fight you sat at 100km in rokhs, waiting on all the drakes to die, and spent time in a pos before losing 20 ships running away. When have you not ran away?

Oh and we had 450 vs 310, dunno where 600 comes from, maybe more bob style propaganda.

I hardly think 100 more drakes sitting alongside our allies getting popped left right and center would do any good...

What exactly do you propose we do? Do a honorable brawl head to head? Currently we get to shoot at you guys, have fairly good participation, lose some ships and kill some ships. But expecting us to pull some magic rabbit out of a hat which lets us go head to head with the alpha fleet you guys bring and not die in a fire is unrealistic, to put it in a mild way. With timers being what they are, with Mittani clearly stating this is not about good fights, but burning down Branch, this is pretty much what we can do. And it's been pretty fun so far, despite the results going CFC's way in the fights.

[Bring Stabity]

This is the THIRD FUCKING FIGHT MATE in which you guys sat at 100-150km, shot a few ships, and when everyone was dead, warped out and ran away. First fight you logged tengus for 2 hours, second flight you lost 10 tengus, ran to a station and then ran out the door. 3rd fight you sat at 100km in rokhs, waiting on all the drakes to die, and spent time in a pos before losing 20 ships running away. When have you not ran away?

Oh and we had 450 vs 310, dunno where 600 comes from, maybe more bob style propaganda.

you are not one to talk about bob-stype propaganda, aj regard

[penifSMASH]

uhhh I'm pretty sure rohkfleet IS an alphafleet

as always, happy to being corrected if i am wrong

if you have enough of anything, they'll alpha a target

[Razzor]

Because alpha fleet is shit-on-a stick. Using a doctrine based on the game being fail is kind of not why we play this game, and dislike your side so much.

Making it easy to win is not why we engage, hard as it may be to see from your perspective.

this has to be a troll

[Securitas]

this has to be a troll

It is.

[Vile rat]

This is the THIRD FUCKING FIGHT MATE

You are American, enough with this mate shit.

[Gnome]

The shit is yours, that stick has been raping you.

VVV You guys should get together on your stories then.

Heh. I'm not going to discuss fleet doctrines with a sperging retard, it's a waste of my time, on the internet.
Keep bringng those alpha-fleets. Will be just as amusing as NOL the last time.

[smg77]

Because alpha fleet is shit-on-a stick. Using a doctrine based on the game being fail is kind of not why we play this game, and dislike your side so much.

Making it easy to win is not why we engage, hard as it may be to see from your perspective.

So you're still going to lose but your e-honor will be left intact. ffs

[Teak]

You are American, enough with this mate shit.

Melting pot, bitch. Mate is assimilated. Fuck Australia, those dingos have nothing good anymore.

[smg77]

Melting pot, bitch. Mate is assimilated. Fuck Australia, those dingos have nothing good anymore.

They will always have Crocodile Dundee

[John Smith]

You are American, enough with this mate shit.

Mate.

[brokencage]

I hardly think 100 more drakes sitting alongside our allies getting popped left right and center would do any good...

What exactly do you propose we do? Do a honorable brawl head to head? Currently we get to shoot at you guys, have fairly good participation, lose some ships and kill some ships. But expecting us to pull some magic rabbit out of a hat which lets us go head to head with the alpha fleet you guys bring and not die in a fire is unrealistic, to put it in a mild way. With timers being what they are, with Mittani clearly stating this is not about good fights, but burning down Branch, this is pretty much what we can do. And it's been pretty fun so far, despite the results going CFC's way in the fights.

No no, Please for the love of all that's holy please just keep doing what your doing.

[Gnome]

So you're still going to lose but your e-honor will be left intact. ffs

LOL.

You are making asses out of umptions right there, friend.

[Glomp]

You are American, enough with this mate shit.

He has been hanging with the Aussies and Brits to long. On fleets we all need to use "dude" until he goes back to using it. Then maybe switch it bro or buddie. Once we control what words he uses we can work on him doing different accents and maybe leading ops in other languages then sperg.

[smg77]

LOL.

You are making asses out of umptions right there, friend.

I'm not too worried about it, buddy.
Especially if you guys are so gung-ho to gimp yourselves for space bushido hurfblurf. I still can't believe you posted that

[Intrepid Crossing ELITE]

jesus wept salty bitter tears, but at least he did so for a good reason (unlike you raging fagwhores)

I love the way people talk seriously about ~fleet doctrines~ as if it's some kind of uber-complex rationale which requires a PhD and years of fine tuning, but which no-one with an IQ of less than 170 could hope to understand

hint: they're not difficult to work out if you understand simple game mechanics... which a surprisingly large number of people don't, leaving those who do strutting around on internet spaceship forums like they're fucking einstein

"well of course you would bring 'alpha'... you simply don't understand, and shall never comprehend, the multilayered nuances of the tengu/rohk/whatever is fotm etc"

it's all a crock of shit, and it's not hard to work out

[Vile rat]

jesus wept salty bitter tears, but at least he did so for a good reason (unlike you raging fagwhores)

I love the way people talk seriously about ~fleet doctrines~ as if it's some kind of uber-complex rationale which requires a PhD and years of fine tuning, but which no-one with an IQ of less than 170 could hope to understand

hint: they're not difficult to work out if you understand simple game mechanics... which a surprisingly large number of people don't, leaving those who do strutting around on internet spaceship forums like they're fucking einstein

"well of course you would bring 'alpha'... you simply don't understand, and shall never comprehend, the multilayered nuances of the tengu/rohk/whatever is fotm etc"

it's all a crock of shit, and it's not hard to work out

Oh god yes welcome to Kugutsumen.com please don't stop posting.

[Vee]

vee can i join bomberwaffe please?

sure, who are you?

[Gnome]

I'm not too worried about it, buddy.
Especially if you guys are so gung-ho to gimp yourselves for space bushido hurfblurf. I still can't believe you posted that

You're right, it wasn't the best written attempt at bridging the cultural divide.

Alpha-fleet is still shit-on-a-stick. You know when you have to unclog that toilet at the rustique cabin and you have a good plan, know what to do and still end up with shit to your elbows? That's alpha-fleet.

That's my opinion. It's not going to change until we do it better than a bunch of sperging retards.

[Far]

jesus wept salty bitter tears, but at least he did so for a good reason (unlike you raging fagwhores)

I love the way people talk seriously about ~fleet doctrines~ as if it's some kind of uber-complex rationale which requires a PhD and years of fine tuning, but which no-one with an IQ of less than 170 could hope to understand

hint: they're not difficult to work out if you understand simple game mechanics... which a surprisingly large number of people don't, leaving those who do strutting around on internet spaceship forums like they're fucking einstein

"well of course you would bring 'alpha'... you simply don't understand, and shall never comprehend, the multilayered nuances of the tengu/rohk/whatever is fotm etc"

it's all a crock of shit, and it's not hard to work out

Thanks IRC, we'll be sure to remember that next time we encounter your carefully crafted and coherent fleets.

[Razzor]

sure, who are you?

take me not midge he is a rapist.

[Malaclypse]

jesus wept salty bitter tears, but at least he did so for a good reason (unlike you raging fagwhores)

I love the way people talk seriously about ~fleet doctrines~ as if it's some kind of uber-complex rationale which requires a PhD and years of fine tuning, but which no-one with an IQ of less than 170 could hope to understand

hint: they're not difficult to work out if you understand simple game mechanics... which a surprisingly large number of people don't, leaving those who do strutting around on internet spaceship forums like they're fucking einstein

"well of course you would bring 'alpha'... you simply don't understand, and shall never comprehend, the multilayered nuances of the tengu/rohk/whatever is fotm etc"

it's all a crock of shit, and it's not hard to work out

Paging Grath to this post.

[someguyfromoverthere]

sure, who are you?

that would be telling...


CU ON JABBER

[cflux]

3rd fight you sat at 100km in rokhs, waiting on all the drakes to die, and spent time in a pos before losing 20 ships running away. When have you not ran away?

Ok, if it makes you feel better, Ill tell the guys that because of k.coms propaganda logic, we are not currently helping enough just by coming to every fight and contributing in intelligence, damage, logistics, pure numbers, etc. Only way we truly contribute is by "tanking". In this case, drakes @ 0. So, to change this absolutely awesome angle of "you suck @ K.com" - we will be flying dwakes at dawn. DWAKES AT DAWN.

Happy now?

[Lorren Canada]

Because alpha fleet is shit-on-a stick. Using a doctrine based on the game being fail is kind of not why we play this game, and dislike your side so much.

Making it easy to win is not why we engage, hard as it may be to see from your perspective.

Goddamn you are stupid fucking nigger, even Jogyn couldn't spin this bullshit if he tried

[Gnome]

Goddamn you are stupid fucking nigger, even Jogyn couldn't spin this bullshit if he tried

Well, fuck you and your opinion, then.


See, it's easy.

[Malaclypse]

Goddamn you are stupid fucking nigger, even Jogyn couldn't spin this bullshit if he tried

But Mr Rive could, spinning it like a pro.

[BiggerDangDude]

The speed at which everyone is posting in this thread is too quick for the little amount of change going on in Branch right now.

[Fear]

I see lots of shit dead and lots of angry posts anyone have tldr?

[Ryan Rs]

TLDR: It was nice to shoot ships instead of structures, but the CFC steamroller continues apace.

[Headblast]

TLDR: It was nice to shoot ships instead of structures, but the CFC steamroller continues apace.

Basically this.

CFC alpha-fleet jumped into a WN Drake, IRC random and Raiden. rokh fleets, with lots of dead drakes, lots of dead randoms and Raiden. running under a pos and then back home once our allies were all dead. CFC chased for a few jumps, and that was about it.

Unlike last few fights, lag was not too good this time around.

[Czeris]

I am never being a Squad 4 hero again.

"Ok, Squad 1 warp...Squad 2 should be in warp. Squad 3 should be in warp..."

"Umm, squad 4 hasn't warped"

"I know, it's ok"

"OMFG we killed so many dudes. Awesome"

[fugazii]

jesus wept salty bitter tears, but at least he did so for a good reason (unlike you raging fagwhores)

I love the way people talk seriously about ~fleet doctrines~ as if it's some kind of uber-complex rationale which requires a PhD and years of fine tuning, but which no-one with an IQ of less than 170 could hope to understand

hint: they're not difficult to work out if you understand simple game mechanics... which a surprisingly large number of people don't, leaving those who do strutting around on internet spaceship forums like they're fucking einstein

"well of course you would bring 'alpha'... you simply don't understand, and shall never comprehend, the multilayered nuances of the tengu/rohk/whatever is fotm etc"

it's all a crock of shit, and it's not hard to work out

You didn't get much right but you got one thing spot on.

Strutting around on forums is exactly like making sweet love to Einstein.

[Shadowski]

jesus wept salty bitter tears, but at least he did so for a good reason (unlike you raging fagwhores)

I love the way people talk seriously about ~fleet doctrines~ as if it's some kind of uber-complex rationale which requires a PhD and years of fine tuning, but which no-one with an IQ of less than 170 could hope to understand

hint: they're not difficult to work out if you understand simple game mechanics... which a surprisingly large number of people don't, leaving those who do strutting around on internet spaceship forums like they're fucking einstein

"well of course you would bring 'alpha'... you simply don't understand, and shall never comprehend, the multilayered nuances of the tengu/rohk/whatever is fotm etc"

it's all a crock of shit, and it's not hard to work out

:skepticalfry:

Not sure if serious..... cautiously plus repping against better judgement anyway.

[Malaclypse]

You didn't get much right but you got one thing spot on.

Strutting around on forums is exactly like making sweet love to Einstein.

Einstein's down on the beach, he's a sensitive type
His intentions are clear, he wants to be well-liked
If everything is nothing, then are we anything?
Is it better to be better than to be anything?

[Endie]

this has to be a troll

Nope, although he may pull the puppetmasta defence later when someone explains it to him.

[Gel]

So have the Goons even used their super fleet after the deployment? Or did they just show it off in the beginning then shelf it?

[Vee]

So have the Goons even used their super fleet after the deployment? Or did they just show it off in the beginning then shelf it?

We use it for structure shots, but we have not dropped titans on fleetfights. I hope it will stay this way, especially since we already have the numerical advantage, but it probably won't be long until we get overly smug to the point of actually using supers and then welping all of them.

[Don Peyote]

DaiTengu's supers must routinely be sacrificed to the shrimp nets to ensure a prosperous harvest

[White Tree]

So have the Goons even used their super fleet after the deployment? Or did they just show it off in the beginning then shelf it?

The CFC super fleet exists, but it is beautiful and rare, like a Unicorn.

[smg77]

The speed at which everyone is posting in this thread is too quick for the little amount of change going on in Branch right now.

Posting something as shockingly stupid as "We won't use a fleet composition that works within the confines of bad Eve mechanics because of OUR HONOR and hate anybody who does" is like throwing chum in shark infested waters.

[Ivo THE1]

I luv some of the latest posts from butthurt peeps. But IRC Elite & Gnome, you sirs are a gem and should continue to post here, and for the sake of being a troll or not, I'll give you something to reply to.

For pretty simple game mechanics of which EvE is, why can't any one of you RedRussians figure out the way the CFC use alpha? and do it on your own terms, let alone do the same exact concept itself. If the doctrine is 'so gay and so the are game mechanics', and your own people in your coalition are trying to use it now (being the solar v xdeath or whoever) its not like you don't have the numbers to effectively do it. So what do you put it down to then?

Are you gona admit that then, your own high-ups have the so called sub 170 IQ that they can't put into practice what the CFC has being doing for a year straight now? Or should we continue to expect the oh bringing two different fleet type excuse lets ball them up into one it will work thing again?

Merry Christmas one and all :P or for those who don't care.. Happy you receive gifts for some imaginary guy in the sky day.

[smg77]

(Fuck you Ivo THE1 for screwing up my double post)
And by chum in shark infested waters I mean Mt. Dew in neckbeard infested basements.