Any entity can live in NPC space and come back. That being said, the same claims that INIT held too much space to hold with their current size can be said of -A- & friends too, should they manage to re take Catch.Originally Posted by Czech Lion
Any entity can live in NPC space and come back. That being said, the same claims that INIT held too much space to hold with their current size can be said of -A- & friends too, should they manage to re take Catch.
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
First round just finished in GE-. 190 SW vs 250 INIT (roughly). Losses approximately equal from both sides, Init looted the field. Init fielded 7 moms and 15 carriers to the gate so if you're lacking moms kills it is good moment to blue stainwagon and make few ninja kills
Is that a subtle request for help, posted on Kugu's?First round just finished in GE-. 190 SW vs 250 INIT (roughly). Losses approximately equal from both sides, Init looted the field. Init fielded 7 moms and 15 carriers to the gate so if you're lacking moms kills it is good moment to blue stainwagon and make few ninja kills
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
Rumour has it that there are about 20 aaa supercaps logged out in ge- ? Someone can confirm?
Thats impossible, -A- ebayed of their supers to White noise.
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Not that many, but yes, they have SC's logged off in GE-.
So by proxy you like me? I bet Grath's head is about to explode.
Grath's head is always in some varying state of explosion.
Oh that's why you spent 3 hours bubbling and reinforcing poor dickstar? Sorry to disappoint you...
Relax mate. I actually joined fleet an hour or so ago.. and I heard a rumour. Came here to confirm ofc, as I find Kugu to be really awesome at confirming stuff.
ROL forgot to pay bills or something in Paragon Soul, so they dropped sov in a few systems. TCUs are dying now.
Yeah, that's why ROL just tried to save them and now ROL SC's are rapecaged along with -a-.
It's very much looking like H-W again. Funny that.
whenever a situation is compared this early on to H-W, it certainly won't be.
come back in 3 days and if your shit is still rapecaged then you can call it like H-W.
The defenders need to win the fight first for it to be another H-W.
If the forces being camped into the POS are stronger than the forces camping it, it isn't really a rapecage, is it?
Being attacked by Stainwagon has been fun. Extremely fun at times. But like all things in Eve, stuff gets old. Then we do something else. Please, Malc, Never give up trying to get us to NPC space again. I want to piss in cheerios instead of defending my own.
6th or 7th INIT carrier down, they're melting on the field faster than i am able to lock them.
Are there INIT supercaps on field as Stainwagons are.....?
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Not to be obnoxious but can someone tell me the last time IT swooshing in to the rescue actually helped in any tangible way
Yes, 1 Avatar on the field as well with several supercarriers in bubbles. Not many carriers left now, FBs are chewing through them like mad.
EDIT: Almost all (at least what i saw and whored on) INIT carriers down and their supercaps jumped out. We're back to shooting drakez.
Fucking awesome fight.
Started with us forming and SC's logging in in GE and elsewhere. INIT cycled the jammer to get some peeps in. a few min before in reonlined We jumped in and were immediately engaged by the init fleet, first drakes then caps and supers. Lag was bad but we huggged the shield and the drake blobs engaged. SC's using ECM burst on the enemy fleets
We than engaged their caps and the drake blob suicided to ensure they could keep them tackled. Lag was bad but we chewed through a shit load of carriers. We ran out of dictors before we could get the supers.
Fight still ongoing, but their caps have all gone (either warped off, jumped out or destroyed.
k
Well it Prolonged it you could say, but they could never really commit to anything without anyone threatening delve/fountain.
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Im actually amazed that INIT has survived at all without the help of IT.
I thought -A- was shit, but today I saw how shite INIT really is. With even numbers they actually batphoned IT.
Seriously when IT gets tied up, INIT will fail. Or least they better hope that IT doesn't.
PS.
Heard the chest thumping really started on the INIT side once IT showed up. Wow just wow.
Looks at comm guy lol.
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Funny thing is, they weren't jokes...
edit: nvm, i'm shit too...
I never said they wouldn't get out.
really? REALLY? You are surprised? After all this time?
And -A- complaining about friends. Never gets old.
Pretty good couple of fights. Whelped some caps. /shrug
http://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related2&kll_id=429867
Is the current view from the -A- board (and yes i know it doesn't include friendly loses) with the side split correctly.
Numbers appear fairly even. StainWagon and Co were holding their own, then IT and Sys-K entered the fray takening the hostile count near 1K so Stain bailed.
Confirming less than 100 SYS-K drakes won the battle.
Even if -A- & Co. doesn't take GE today, seems like it was more then worth it judging by the number of carriers INIT lost despite having more number on paper.
I'm sure GE will be re-SBU'd within hours, rinse and repeat for as long as it takes them. I can't see IT coming to the rescue day after day.
Thats pretty fucking rich considering there were 7 different alliances on the Caaaserol side. I think in one battle you manage to squeeze it up to 12.
Am I seeing things wrong or doesn't INIT have like 14 alliances on their side according to the battle summary.....
confirming that 7 alliances that add up to 2 of the alliances they are fights is a equal comparison, especially when the 2 alliances call in double the numbers of the entire enemy force they are fighting
banned from WoT forums for calling MAC users faggots, the GM was a total MAC user
*claps*
Now can we stop using the argument people are shit because they bring allies
Jesus Christ. I left for a snowboarding trip like 3 weeks ago, come back to find the same shit posting over the same shitty systems getting ref'd with the same shitty drake armies.
Leave it to kugu to produce 50 pages of hurf blurf when nothing of note really has changed.
Someone hit me up on MSN when ya'll are over this Drake Army / Supercaps Online crap and wanna start roaming and shit again.
Heh init really are fucked. Saving 25% of the vulnerable systems and needing people to jump through four regions to do it is not sustainable.
Meanwhile, IT have to run over here to Fountain to save Talos from Test and Goonswarm and then hit PNQY tonight. If they want to save Init they then have to run over there again next. Then come back to save Fountain again. Again and again and again and again and again...
Is Molle gambling that we'll stop fucking their pets or that AAA will decide that they don't want to check off items on their revenge list before his empire pubbies get bored of all those jumps every other day?
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yea.. to think how much more fucked we'd be had we actually lost the fight.
Here's the numbers game since everyone seems to be complaining about needing allies (according the AAA killboard):
220 Against ALL Authorities
39 En Garde
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199 The Initiative.
283 Initiative Mercenaries
8 Initiative Associates
\o/ someone bought out the numbers
Actually the friend is actually me as my alt is in INIT. so I knew it was bs. ISK wise INIT got welped kill wise welped as well based on kbs. IT showed up to help INIT which was expected. EYEs ftw.I can't actually believe you've fallen for that
On the other hand INIT is mass evacing from GE-, some nice firesales picked up. 200 of them in system at the moment securing the space for alliance mates to get out safely. Few hours still left on the timer so who knows, maybe there will be a nice fight tonight.
PS.
I think NCdot did better when it had no blues, seems getting paid to be blue turned them into suck. Sup twinky.
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Funny thing is, they weren't jokes...
So in total how many INIT/Allies Carriers/Caps ended up dying? (I think I counted wrong but I got 21 vie the board that Dotlan links to)
no matter who you are loosing that many caps in one go has to do something for the morale on both sides of the argument
So Molle made an appearance in system? Did it do anything or was it one of those things were just it's presence inspires it's allies to do better?(it being Molle not IT alliance) Also surely no-one seriously expected IT alliance to be of more help? As surely most people if not everyone knows what they <IT alliance> are like when it comes to helping their allies. (More fool INIT/IM for thinking it would be different this time round) As for betting, I don't know about that but would think it is more along the lines of really not giving a fu#k about what happens to them in the long run.
Seriously though, from what I was told last night there is a lot of threats being thrown around within INIT/IM towards their member bases (Like that evemail posted earlier in this thread says) & from what people that are on the INIT/IM side are telling me there are a few that are intending on moving on to better places. (Rats getting off the sinking ship I guess)
Has there ever been a time when those sorts of EVEmails have worked & saved the day??
-A-'s board says 29 carriers
Also apparently over 200 battlecruisers died on the GE- field of honour
Losing carriers is only slightly more painfull than losing a battleship fleet these days, losing 30 or so carriers is nothing. For an alliance/coalition the size of Init it wouldn't make fuck all difference. Obviously, killing carriers is great fun, but losing them isn't painfull, only inconvenient. Unless supers die AZN style, the important part would be who holds the field.So in total how many INIT/Allies Carriers/Caps ended up dying? (I think I counted wrong but I got 21 vie the board that Dotlan links to)
no matter who you are loosing that many caps in one go has to do something for the morale on both sides of the argument
Ugh.. the lag was terrible, terrible, terrible!
Good fight caserol team, sweet use of supercaps makes short life of carriers .. If you fielded any they would've died in the same fashion as our
Lagfest will continue .. see you for the next round.
And that does not even take into account all the ammo we spent shooting those carriers. Hopefully, we can learn from this defeat.
Save the hurf blurf the important part is INIT will lose all of its space. Then IT is next squirm all you wish but death is unavoidable. Also funny little story to add content to my post. So up until today I had been in one of INIT/IT/WN command channels with one of my well known characters. The channel had been on delayed mode awhile so I was just able to sit there and listen to them yammer. Guess now ill actually have to expend effort to get all the info I need :sadface:
So what ended up happening to the station? Lost, saved, still being fought over?
Isk wise yes, but isk does not matter in a large conflict.
Pl lost 4 titans in y-2 after holding Fountain, could ring, syndicate and outer ring r64 for about 2 years.
It did not hurt us isk wise, but we got emo anyways, its all about morale.
We have killed 50+ large bc/bs fleets from NC, they are not running out of isk but they fleets are shrinking every time.
No war is being lost due to people running out of isk, only due to people running out of will to join fleet.
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(21:39:55) dabigredboat: pl wont get hired
(21:39:57) dabigredboat: nobody trusts them
(21:40:19) dabigredboat: I think pl is in delve to build supers
when you take delve can i have some systems to set up bots in
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It's saved. Think the stuff that was lost is being reinforced, together with caserol towers all around ge- .. No lag i think!
I'm assuming because some of them respawned in another system, as you claimed here.
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