NC Deployment to Dronelands

**MpozoY** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Thirsty McDrinkerston

I agreee with Malaclypse, but I would say it is a giant fleet the chance of losing the fight because of T1 guns is so remote why waste the isk and using T1 gets the nubs involved meaning more numbers. If it is a medium sized gang fight then you got something, but who cares when there are so many people.

I'm like the last dude to emphasize ~elite space tactics~ put generally fitting t2 guns, especially if you're using certain t2 ammo, mean you can hit a lot further out, and hit for a lot more at a given range, which boosts fleet dps a non-trivial amount. As far as wasting the isk goes if you should at least be using named weapons and faction ammo if you're shooting other people, if your nubs are poor then have bitter old fucks give them isk. Straight up T1 fits indicate there's something wrong with the alliance supply lines (i.e. a market opportunity)

**Habitual Line Stepper** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by MpozoY

I'm like the last dude to emphasize ~elite space tactics~ put generally fitting t2 guns, especially if you're using certain t2 ammo, mean you can hit a lot further out, and hit for a lot more at a given range, which boosts fleet dps a non-trivial amount.

That'd give a tactical advantage if it weren't for probing mechanics being what they are. As it is, I can count the number of times of times I've loaded Tremor or Aurora in fleet fights on one hand. Mostly though, I think a big reason for T1 large guns is that the main people in BSes are people that don't have the skills to fly HACs, CSes, T3s, HICs, DICs, etc. My alliance pushes logistics harder than any other skill, a few others get mention but they are silent on the issue of T2 large.

**argle** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper

That'd give a tactical advantage if it weren't for probing mechanics being what they are. As it is, I can count the number of times of times I've loaded Tremor or Aurora in fleet fights on one hand. Mostly though, I think a big reason for T1 large guns is that the main people in BSes are people that don't have the skills to fly HACs, CSes, T3s, HICs, DICs, etc. My alliance pushes logistics harder than any other skill, a few others get mention but they are silent on the issue of T2 large.

Best named 1400s do the same damage and have the same range as T2. Only difference is they can't use tremor, and loading tremor during one of these fights would be ridiculous. Plus the lower price and lower power req knocks 14 mil off my fit and add 10k ehp because I can swap ACR for trimark.

Also because I don't have skills for any t2 guns. I can fly three races' caps though

**Habitual Line Stepper** · 2010-11-12

Not arguing against anything you said except that T2 guns get a slight benefit from the specialization skills. Not that it'd even matter when it's fifteen or more BSes laying into one target.

**Krutoj** · 2010-11-12

http://kb.deerhunt.ru/?op=related&name=668508 is why we won, also fyi, most of our losses were in the end when NC brought 200 (to their 150) battleships and we dropped to like 120 (WN didnt come back from the first fight). NC held the field, but lost their face

**argle** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper

Not arguing against anything you said except that T2 guns get a slight benefit from the specialization skills. Not that it'd even matter when it's fifteen or more BSes laying into one target.

Oh, yeah. Hadn't considered that. Because I'm dumb.

**argle** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

http://kb.deerhunt.ru/?op=related&name=668508 is why we won, also fyi, most of our losses were in the end when NC brought 200 (to their 150) battleships and we dropped to like 120 (WN didnt come back from the first fight). NC held the field, but lost their face

Your killboard is an inaccurate, unreadable mess. People who use one that actually works will find that you lost by kills and isk, failed to hold the field and lost the station.

http://rawr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_rel...kll_id=8025200

**Habitual Line Stepper** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

http://kb.deerhunt.ru/?op=related&name=668508 is why we won, also fyi, most of our losses were in the end when NC brought 200 (to their 150) battleships and we dropped to like 120 (WN didnt come back from the first fight). NC held the field, but lost their face

I'm not intending to troll but it looks like roughly equal losses on both sides 309 vs 280 in Drone Russian's favor. Fair point and honest to say that most of your losses were at the end, but points scored in overtime are still points scored.

**Krutoj** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Habitual Line Stepper

I'm not intending to troll but it looks like roughly equal losses on both sides 309 vs 280 in Drone Russian's favor. Fair point and honest to say that most of your losses were at the end, but points scored in overtime are still points scored.

indeed, still, is that what you expected from 11 alliances and 860 people vs 510 ?

**Habitual Line Stepper** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

indeed, still, is that what you expected from 11 alliances and 860 people vs 510 ?

You've consistently given a good account of yourselves throughout this whole thing, win or lose. So yes, it is what I'd expect: We bring more, take as many or more losses, accomplish our objectives, ~goodfight~

**Iseeyouseemeseeyou** · 2010-11-12

Krutoj, C/D this is how Drone Ruskies were after fight

**Kiko V** · 2010-11-12

The Drone Russians are some of the best opponents you can have. They can talk shit, but can take it too, give great fights, and own up to their welps when they happen (not saying this was one of them).

**Krutoj** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Iseeyouseemeseeyou

Krutoj, C/D this is how Drone Ruskies were after fight

more like, you douche

**Aaron** · 2010-11-12

just curious , that last fight you linked with 800 vs 500

how was the lag? and how long was the fight? all those ships dying on each side, look like alot of fun had by all.

and wow holy bombers

shit dying all over eve, south on fire, north east, cloud ring fires are smoldering, fountain being hit a bit, where next? only major player not in volved in a conflict now is IT alliance.

**Krutoj** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Aaron

just curious , that last fight you linked with 800 vs 500

how was the lag? and how long was the fight? all those ships dying on each side, look like alot of fun had by all.

and wow holy bombers

was 7-8 hours fight (during which NC was attempting to take over station, but couldnt till we went to bed). Lag was when we jumped in/bridged in for about couple of hours of that fight, then numbers drop caused it to unlag and was more or less fine throughout the remaining time.

**Fig** · 2010-11-12

Location HARDGAY RAMEN

I <3 you krutoj

**Kaeydan** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

http://kb.deerhunt.ru/?op=related&name=668508 is why we won, also fyi, most of our losses were in the end when NC brought 200 (to their 150) battleships and we dropped to like 120 (WN didnt come back from the first fight). NC held the field, but lost their face

Krutoj, you are turning into a bigger shitposter than me, that is a fucking achievement. I am going to +rep you.

**Malcanis** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Aaron

just curious , that last fight you linked with 800 vs 500

how was the lag? and how long was the fight? all those ships dying on each side, look like alot of fun had by all.

and wow holy bombers

shit dying all over eve, south on fire, north east, cloud ring fires are smoldering, fountain being hit a bit, where next? only major player not in volved in a conflict now is IT alliance.

IT are fighting NCdot, IIRC

**fulis** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

was 7-8 hours fight (during which NC was attempting to take over station, but couldnt till we went to bed). Lag was when we jumped in/bridged in for about couple of hours of that fight, then numbers drop caused it to unlag and was more or less fine throughout the remaining time.

lol krutoj you're trying too hard

YOU WON
except you didn't win

No we didn't take the station until you left. It's pretty normal to keep shooting the enemies for as long as they're around. Yes, your guys went to bed but that's still just half the truth because by the end you had lost anyway, we held the system for a long time while your BS fleet was frantically bouncing safes.

**kugushitz** · 2010-11-12

Lincoln says

**FireZeMissiles** · 2010-11-12

krutoj. you are trying to spin this shit so hard you must really be starting to actually believe the rubbish you are talking.

**Krutoj** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by FireZeMissiles

krutoj. you are trying to spin this shit so hard you must really be starting to actually believe the rubbish you are talking.

I always win

http://killboard.legionofdeath.info/?op=kill&id=669514 < m3-h tcu killed 10min before online with NCpets 40men gang in local

**hardon** · 2010-11-12

Dunno what to make of this thread. Krutoj is trolling, or he is going full retard. I'm happy with either, I started to feel lonely here. All hail war trauma and stress.

**Opti** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

I always win

http://killboard.legionofdeath.info/?op=kill&id=669514 < m3-h tcu killed 10min before online with NCpets 40men gang in local

We killed a TCU with supercaps after loosing horribly and cutting ourselves to sleep while a small group of the enemy pilots were docked in the station afk

yep gone full retard

**superstarmcawesome** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

I always win

http://killboard.legionofdeath.info/?op=kill&id=669514 < m3-h tcu killed 10min before online with NCpets 40men gang in local

Turning the Dronerussians into pls bitches and slaveworkers was indeed a full success

**hardon** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Opti

yep gone full retard

Stations are gonna fall, ships are going to be violenced, fun will be had. All pixels, all pixels.

I see enjoyment of the game going down the drain. Sad...

**Dave T** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

I dont see you guys mind the grind, in fact you love it. I mean, to even kill all of our pos structures, completely erasing them, for what reason? One reason, you love it, you fucken love it

If it wasn't them, it would have been someone else. When you paid PL to take all that space for you, I said, here and elsewhere, that I gave you 6 months. Eve history has not been kind to those who pay to get or keep space that they coudn't take or keep themselves. How does it feel to be the new ISS?

**Elendar** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Dave T

If it wasn't them, it would have been someone else. When you paid PL to take all that space for you, I said, here and elsewhere, that I gave you 6 months. Eve history has not been kind to those who pay to get or keep space that they coudn't take or keep themselves. How does it feel to be the new ISS?

ITT NC member suggests alliances that hire mercs to hit the csaas of people attacking their space are shit

**fulis** · 2010-11-12

He's talking about the Atlas war dumbshit

**Malcanis** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Elendar

ITT NC member suggests alliances that hire mercs to hit the csaas of people attacking their space are shit

Delicious.

**Murr** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

http://kb.deerhunt.ru/?op=related&name=668508 is why we won, also fyi, most of our losses were in the end when NC brought 200 (to their 150) battleships and we dropped to like 120 (WN didnt come back from the first fight). NC held the field, but lost their face

Seriously bud, I like spinning as the next chap, but in that link losses are nearly the same for both, it's not that you killed 300 and lost 50 to call it a win, and you also lost a station. Where exactly do you see a win? Please don't turn all AJ on us.

**Kaeydan** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Murr

Seriously bud, I like spinning as the next chap, but in that link losses are nearly the same for both, it's not that you killed 300 and lost 50 to call it a win, and you also lost a station. Where exactly do you see a win? Please don't turn all AJ on us.

I like AJ. Every AJ report had a silver lining, a bit like Baghdad Bob.

And yes, K's posts the last few pages were so bad I did +rep him. You can't write shit like that without getting rewarded for effort.

**eat shit sovhavers** · 2010-11-12

someone change title to: nc retreats to venal to deal with school yard bullies pandemic legion.

**Bawzong Shnagx** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by eat shit sovhavers

someone change title to: nc retreats to venal to deal with school yard bullies pandemic legion.

Yo, imma let you finish, but first, imma gonna capture dis station.

**Krutoj** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Murr

Seriously bud, I like spinning as the next chap, but in that link losses are nearly the same for both, it's not that you killed 300 and lost 50 to call it a win, and you also lost a station. Where exactly do you see a win? Please don't turn all AJ on us.

There were several hints on what I ment. I suppose you will see later on.

**FireZeMissiles** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Krutoj

There were several hints on what I ment. I suppose you will see later on.

and you will be seeing the barrels of my guns before clonevat.

**Mr Coloredshirt** · 2010-11-12

hahahhaahhahahahaha

Oh man I love internet tough guys.

**fulis** · 2010-11-12

Russkies chose to not defend the station in R1O- in favour of trying to save their CSAA in GTY but we got them both

Baby-Titan abortion complete

**Madrak** · 2010-11-12

Bombers were pretty good in GTY but we able to keep warping out. Heaven forbid if they used a dictor on some of those runs.
Overall, quite a slugfest and the CSAA kill had a sort of sweet ring to it because they made us really work for it.

The hotfix to the patch's patch was unfortunately timed. I don't think it effected the outcome, but some people might have trouble getting home.

**Opti** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Madrak

Bombers were pretty good in GTY but we able to keep warping out. Heaven forbid if they used a dictor on some of those runs.
Overall, quite a slugfest and the CSAA kill had a sort of sweet ring to it because they made us really work for it.

The hotfix to the patch's patch was unfortunately timed. I don't think it effected the outcome, but some people might have trouble getting home.

I heard there was 5 titans 3 nyxs' building aswell as cap parts

**Arrador** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Madrak

Bombers were pretty good in GTY but we able to keep warping out. Heaven forbid if they used a dictor on some of those runs.

They really don't need dictors, at the rate we bubble our own fleets.

**Vasim Vio** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Arrador

They really don't need dictors, at the rate we bubble our own fleets.

If you bubble yourself at right time, bombers will get trapped just. It is actually one of effective anti-bombers measures.

**argle** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Vasim Vio

If you bubble yourself at right time, bombers will get trapped just. It is actually one of effective anti-bombers measures.

We often don't bubble ourselves until after the bombers land though

**Arrador** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Vasim Vio

If you bubble yourself at right time, bombers will get trapped just. It is actually one of effective anti-bombers measures.

This is the NC. We couldn't tackle our own asses, even if our hands were covered with superglue and we went all homo and started grabbing ass wildly.

**Mira Z** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Arrador

This is the NC. We couldn't tackle our own asses, even if our hands were covered with superglue and we went all homo and started grabbing ass wildly.

This implies a starting position of not being homo, and we all know thats not the case.

**tokimi** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Arrador

They really don't need dictors, at the rate we bubble our own fleets.

I am quite sure that we would bubble our own fleet AFTER the bombs were launched. Wait, seen it happen so yes.

**Styxscout** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by FireZeMissiles

and you will be seeing the barrels of my guns before clonevat.

Do i see NC wizardhatting?

**Malcanis** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by Arrador

This is the NC. We couldn't tackle our own asses, even if our hands were covered with superglue and we went all homo and started grabbing ass wildly.

Please to be finishing this story...

**GreenDaemon** · 2010-11-12

Originally Posted by eat shit sovhavers

someone change title to: nc retreats to venal to deal with school yard bullies pandemic legion.

no

Originally Posted by Vasim Vio

If you bubble yourself at right time, bombers will get trapped just. It is actually one of effective anti-bombers measures.

Vasim, keep repeating this, really. I'm sure someone, somewhere, will listen.

**Pilious** · 2010-11-12

2 Stations in 2 days and a CSAA POS cooking a baby Titan can you point me to the failure cascade retreating point?

Sounds like that might be on the Drone Russian side not the NC, but Drone Region Krutoj will shortly be stating there is not Northern Coalition Forces in the Drone Regions

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