Eso/Period/Stain/Impass/Feythabolis part 3

[Striker]

I think it's time to open new thread about South.

Lets start with battle report about c0ven roam in Period Basis. Last week Systematic Chaos decided to harass c0ven JB infrastructure. They reinforced 3 c0ven poses with JB's in 0suf. We repped them all without any major fight. But it cost us some time.

Today we decided its time for a little payback. We formed up our usual HAC LR gang with 45+ ppl and went to A4UG. We got intel about COW 30 man BC gang nearby and Systematic Chaos BS MED RR 50 man fleet in Period Basis. So we decided to go there and try to get some threesome.

We followed COW gang, waited till they will engage bigger Systematic Chaos fleet and jump on both fleets. However before we arrived both gangs ran We tried to probe COW gang meanwhile we camped XZ gate in VNPF. Sys-k finally decided to engage, they jumped in, we got optimals on them. fight ensued.

http://hq.c0ven.pl/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=142039

They quickly disengaged, we followed them. After few minutes of shooting in XZ Systematics left local via JB and went back to 1-n. They called home defence fleet to get more ppl against us.

We decided to move to 1-N and spark a fight. Nearby we've met Romanian Legion and ROL gangs. We invited them to our fleet and proceeded to VR-. We jumped to 1-N and waited till Systematic got 100 in fleet. We had about 90 ppl together (40 c0ven HAC LR, 30+ RL drakes, 20+ ROL drakes). We waited for about 10 minutes in 1-N if they engage. Meanwhile c0ven prober spotted Systematic Chaos nyx at JB pos in VR-. We ofc knew the JB password, so we decided to spark a fight by bumping Nyx from the force field. We were hoping that Sys-k will move their fleet finally and engage us.

Warp in was prepped, we jumped in VR, and warped at 0 at nyx in the pos. In 1 minute he got bumped out as he was afk with his hards off. Orbit 2-3 kms, we started shooting, he was dropping quickly. We waited for the Systematic fleet to arrive but they were still sitting in their pos in 1-n. AFter about 5 minutes Nyx hit structure, pilot wakes up and tries to get to the pos. We bumped him again, he dies in fire.

Sysk fleet still camping 1-n....

I opened convo to Sysk FC afterwards to tell him that they just have lost a Nyx and we went home.

http://hq.c0ven.pl/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=142068

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24wyYqUX-gs - video

And some Sysk rage afterwards on ally chat:

Gohst > <color=0xffffa500><url=fleet:1228410633780><u><b>H OME DEFENSE</b></u></url></color>
rabidrayb > 175 on 90 in fleet comon join up !!!!!!!!!!!!
IntegralHellsing > don't expect other people to do your work
IntegralHellsing > GTFI fleet
Zanacks > GET IN FLEET NOW AND GET TO 1-N
IntegralHellsing > 178 in alliance 99 in fleet
Zanacks > do not go thru vr-
IntegralHellsing > THIS IS YOUR FUCKING HOME GET IN FLEET
Zanacks > <color=0xffffa500><url=fleet:1228410633780><u><b>H OME DEFENSE</b></u></url></color>
Zanacks > RRBS
Zanacks > go go go
Mss Blade > What abot a ts. I'm new
IntegralHellsing > if you don't have rrbs bring armour logi or tank, or tackle just get in fleet
IntegralHellsing > TS info in alliance bulleting
IntegralHellsing > check corp neocom
ShivaGirl > VR- gate clear, only 1 ares at 300km+ from gate
IntegralHellsing > scout i guess
Moordor > we need everyone
Moordor > get in fleet
IntegralHellsing > <color=0xffffa500><url=showinfo:1375//759831041><u><b>Asa Gunnarsson</b></u></url></color> get in fleet
IntegralHellsing > <color=0xffffa500><url=showinfo:1378//654095703><u><b>DJB16</b></u></url></color>
MentaL DoG > haha inty 4 died
IntegralHellsing > inty 4? lol
Bungarus Candidus > itty4
IntegralHellsing > ahh
Bungarus Candidus > whoever that was is a tardface
Bungarus Candidus > whose title should be changed to "Destroyer of Killboards"
MentaL DoG > but master of the eve verce
Bungarus Candidus > think he had a warp core stab fit?
Dark Dreamer84 > just not when u flying a dram right ? hehe
IntegralHellsing > i gotta feeling buuhuu tonight's gonna be a good night
Damiez > xx home defence fleet
Blake Zacary > <color=0xffffa500><url=fleet:1228410633780><u><b>G ood Red=Dead Red</b></u></url></color>
Blake Zacary > <color=0xffffa500><url=fleet:1228410633780><u><b>H OME DEFENSE</b></u></url></color>
Damiez > ty
IntegralHellsing > wtf
IntegralHellsing > http://kb.romanian-legion.com/?a=kil...il&kll_id=6311
IntegralHellsing > srsly
IntegralHellsing > what the fuck
Mss Blade > I'm in TS3 now. But can just be in lobby
Samjack2 > @_@
DaleGribble > whats the km integral wont open for me
IntegralHellsing > they just popped our nyx in vr-
MentaL DoG > haha
IntegralHellsing > wtf was he doing
Severe Fox > nice
Gohst > <color=0xffffa500><url=fleet:1228410633780><u><b>H OME DEFENSE</b></u></url></color>
brutus elementus > WTF...
Bungarus Candidus > way to go super fail nyx pilot
Darth Farmer > golf clap
Bungarus Candidus > you guys just handing those out to everybody over there?
Kennyer > Nemesis Nexus why u not call for help?!?!!
Bungarus Candidus > i'll put my app in then
Tauron Torres > if nemesis nexus lost a super cap he should be booted from the alliance
Tauron Torres > you are a fucking idiot if you lost a super cap
Tauron Torres > IMO
IntegralHellsing > why is he fucking AFK in a Nyx?
Samjack2 > how did he loose it?
Tauron Torres > Dumbass
Samjack2 > if he was AFK kick him
IntegralHellsing > fucker AFKed i bet
Tauron Torres > boot him
Tauron Torres > boot him
Tauron Torres > boot him
IntegralHellsing > stop spam
Tauron Torres > haha
Tauron Torres > no!
IntegralHellsing >
Tauron Torres > Dumbass
Notorius B > /emote is sad
Tauron Torres > omfg
Tauron Torres > im not sad
Samjack2 > is he AFK?
Tauron Torres > that dude is a fucking idiot and deserved to die
Severe Fox > ^^^^
Tauron Torres > i am happy the idiot died
Notorius B > deserved to die ok
Xaelix Sativa > so much for the gf's
IntegralHellsing > yeah but it just drops our morale down
Notorius B > but not in a superap
PedroFTL > we were like 5 bombers in here...if he would have screamed we could have given him a chance
Tauron Torres > like i said
Severe Fox > shit the whole fleet could jumped in
Tauron Torres > revert to my previous statement
Betaray1 > my thanny has a more expensive fit then that nyx
Bungarus Candidus > hahahaha
pritch1 > http://killboard.sys-chaos.net/?a=ki...l&kll_id=80445
Bungarus Candidus > mine too
Samjack2 > true
pritch1 > awsome another dumb loss
Commander Hansen > indeed
Samjack2 > My frekin chimera is a 2bil carrier
Tauron Torres > he should be booted and podded on his way out of period basis to rid him of his stupidity
Darth Farmer > lol chimera and 2 bill should never be in the same sentance
Darth Farmer > like rokh and pvp
Tauron Torres > lol
Darth Farmer > caldari and good ships ya
Betaray1 > my carrier at least has faction hardeners
Darth Farmer > minmatar and well built

Afterwards they called an emergency CEO meeting ;]

[Agathor]

Sweet porn

[Engad Tanon]

nice report, actually in our gang we had 20 in our fleet, not 30. We killed some sysk guys and warped off.

[Mr Coloredshirt]

Jesus, SOLJA is still awful

[Iseeyouseemeseeyou]

Looney Toons. was better than SysK c/d

[Manny]

Looney Toons. was better than SysK c/d

idk I had a char in [ACME] during the last max invasion and they were pretty lol.

[Aokisensei]

I didn't even think CoW still existed. Are they on one side or the other in this conflict or just kind of in it for the lulz?

[Striker]

They reformed and now they live in RRWI pocket in Stain. They cooperated with IT some time ago to kill Peanut Factory mom.

+ some porn again

All CEOs meeting
From: Kel'taith
Sent: 2010.10.29 21:19
To: Systematic-Chaos,

All CEO's 1900 Sunday

Re: All CEOs meeting
From: Gixxer 1000
Sent: 2010.10.29 22:17
To: Systematic-Chaos, Kel'taith, Krem daBrut,

Just to clarify, this is NOT an optional meeting. If the CEO is not available, then a director for that corp that can speak on behalf of said corp must be present. If your corp no-show's on this meeting, then we will make the assumption that your corp no longer wants to be in this alliance.

--------------------------------
All CEOs meeting
From: Kel'taith
Sent: 2010.10.29 21:18
To: Systematic-Chaos,

All CEO's 1900 Sund

SYS-K CTA 02:45 (10-31-10)
From: Aden Hughes
Sent: 2010.10.30 02:31
To: Systematic-Chaos,

CTA
WHEN: 02:45 FORMUP 10-31-10 (ROUGHLY 24 HOURS FROM THIS MESSAGE)
WHAT: RRBS(ARMOR), GUARDIANS, CLOAKY SCOUTS, FEW CEPTORS FOR TACKLE.
WHERE: FORMUP AT 1-N POS
FC: ADEN HUGHES, BACKUP FC'S: TBA


BRING LOTS OF AMMO BOYS AND GIRLS, AND EXPECT TO FIGHT. UNLESS YOUR GETTING YOUR MACK ON WITH THAT CHICK IN THE SLUTTY HOLLOWEEN COSTUME(I PREFER THE SECRETARY), I WANNA SEE YOU GUYS READY TO ROLL BY 03:00 HOURS. NO FUCKING HACS, DRAKES, SHIELD SHIT ECT.

[Engad Tanon]

I didn't even think CoW still existed. Are they on one side or the other in this conflict or just kind of in it for the lulz?

We are not either side.

[Aokisensei]

Ah, cool to hear.

And is it just me, or does Sys-K look like they're on the road to getting bloated again? They're back over 2000 members. Last time around they had a ton of useless corps, and they had finally slimmed down and shed a lot of dead weight. Are they regaining the weight?

I realize alot of it has to do with the LR merge, but even before that, they were rapidly adding new corps for a while.

[Deja vu]

Rumour has it that Darth who is the sys-k head FC has decided he has had enough of sys-k. This has not been confirmed but a friend within his corp said he has mailed them saying he is taking some time out. The reasons for him leaving are unkown. I know for a fact that he busted his balls off trying too turn Sys-K around and was in the main part a good FC.
If that Nyx loss is anything too go by maybe he decided he was wasting his time and decided too go too greener pastures. Well from us in SYS-K you will be missed Darth if it is true you are leaving and we wish you all the best in wherever you go. Your accent is still bloody hard for us yanks too understand tho

[Blake Zacary]

First let me say well done on the kill(good vid as well Ro),the guy did a silly stupid thing and he paid for it with his mom.Nobody wants to loose the big shiney ships but it's happened before and it'll happen again.It's part of what makes Eve so much fun as without the drama and the people who fly with their heads up their arse,it would be way too boring.

[Striker]

2010.10.30 13:21
Stoven CSAA POS locations

From: Aden Hughes
To: Systematic-Chaos [SYS-K]

If any pilot is aware of Coven/Stain CSAA locations, please mail me with the information. If anyone would like to go looking, I may throw in a finders fee

Dear Aden,
to spare you all the effort I can answer you right now. We don't have any CSAA's. Regards.

[Watchtower]

I am Iron Man


Darth will be missed, specially by those who've worked so close to him since Esoteria. As for the Nyx, what can you really say besides what a fucking idiot. but shit happens, and it was in no way Darth's fault. Kudos to Coven & friends for the good kill, would gladly say i would have done the same.

Cheers to Darth, I wish you the best of luck in the future, and would fly with you again. and finally cheers to coven & friends, keep the fights coming.

//Aden Hughes

[Aoko Aohara]

Ah, cool to hear.

And is it just me, or does Sys-K look like they're on the road to getting bloated again? They're back over 2000 members. Last time around they had a ton of useless corps, and they had finally slimmed down and shed a lot of dead weight. Are they regaining the weight?

I realize alot of it has to do with the LR merge, but even before that, they were rapidly adding new corps for a while.

We've been cycling through corps ever since moving to Period Basis, keeping the ones who actively participate and mesh well culturally and letting go of those who don't. (For some reason, the latter seem to have a tendency to end up in Fountain afterwards.) I could be wrong, but before the LR absorption, our overall member count had been pretty stable.

It's tough to maintain the balance between avoiding bloat and staying able to consistently call fleets large enough to fight other blobs. We're trying.

P.S. I, too, will miss darth.

[Dental Floss]

Local at 500+ in TR07. Lag is bad.

[Rory Pruzis]

looks like the hamsters are exhausted after lxq

[Dental Floss]

My ship has been out of control for about a minute and a half now.

Edit: I'm in my pod now and I'm spamming the warp button but knowing that I'll get nuked by smartbombs before it goes through. =/

[Aoko Aohara]

We (SYS-K, C02, DT, INIT.) all in RRBS jump (forced by a NOIR bombing run on our fleet clumped at zero) into the Stainwagon fleet, who are at optimals on the gate in Drakes. The lag is too bad for us to get repairs up and we get smashed.

I get primaried and killed fairly early. My pod manages to get next door to AZN and dock, and I buy and fit another RRBS to the best of my ability. There's no ammo for sale, but by the time I get back to the field, there are enough friendly wrecks to loot for some. I rumble for a while; soon we declare fleet broken and start burning back to the gate, and I die again.

[Rory Pruzis]

soon we declare fleet broken

that was more of a squad broken rape

[Czech Lion]

Dunno if the numbers are accurate on the kb, but i am surprised by the numbers. Sysk brings almost as much as DT, CO2 and INIT combined.

[J'aghatai]

INIT brought bout 40 battleships + support (so around 70 over all). Lack of DPS/Alpha caused troubles to get drakes down in time so this round goes to southern southside. Perfect Bomberun while we were straggling with reps broke our neck. Numbers.. no idea was shooting from beginning to end. GF gents!

[Sirius A]

props on the bomber run that forced us into the camp. lag was horrible...never got to lock before i was dead. gf

[Crucifier]

We formed up at 4am in drakes/scimis/bombers and went 2j to tr07. After only a small while fc calls for warp off station towards azn gate at optimals.
1 SYS-K lemming jumps in in a mega and gets raeped. DT/init/sysk/co2 then jump in. Local was 300 before hand all blue, local was around 500 for most of the fight but decreased over time.
Fight was p much us just orbiting anchor point and owning. Didn't seem to me like we were even taking fire back. When fighting was finished the took the tr07 and AZN stations.

aaa kb BR: http://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=414549

[Halcyon]

Dunno if the numbers are accurate on the kb, but i am surprised by the numbers. Sysk brings almost as much as DT, CO2 and INIT combined.

I know that is one thing that annoyed the piss out of many sys-k members, we were bringing more numbers to defend someone else's space than the actual defenders....makes sense huh?

But no, kudos to rol/coven/se/etc, very well played, and fun fight, despite the insane lag monsters

[Zimi Vlasic]

I know that is one thing that annoyed the piss out of many sys-k members, we were bringing more numbers to defend someone else's space than the actual defenders....makes sense huh?

Why be annoyed? Fighting, killing, and dying is what is important in eve.

Does it really matter where that happens?

[Securitas]

I know that is one thing that annoyed the piss out of many sys-k members, we were bringing more numbers to defend someone else's space than the actual defenders....makes sense huh?

But no, kudos to rol/coven/se/etc, very well played, and fun fight, despite the insane lag monsters

It was DT's space, they have 1300 and c02 have about 1000 so 2300 in the locals coalition, 2000 in sysk. I'd say that's fair numbers. Although of course sys-k are not obligated to come.

[Striker]

I'd write a battlerep but there isnt much more to say except what Crucifier said.

I'll just repost pretty nice graphics made by Gagaryn from SE:

[Dental Floss]

I know that is one thing that annoyed the piss out of many sys-k members, we were bringing more numbers to defend someone else's space than the actual defenders....makes sense huh?

But no, kudos to rol/coven/se/etc, very well played, and fun fight, despite the insane lag monsters

Might want to remember that most of the DT guys who were there were waking up at 3-4 AM to be there, while it was 7-8 AM in Russia and Poland.

[Watchtower]

SYS-K formed up and rolled by 0300 hours. 45 minutes before TRO exited R/F, we had 60+ stoven & friends reported in C9N-. At this point, we knew we'd get a fight. after meeting up with INIT & friends, we warped to the TRO7 gate only to be bombed in by blues (thanks Dirt Nap Squad). After we jumper into TRO, local count was 500 +/-, and grid seemed to load pretty fast. Stoven already had the grid loaded, and proceeeded with missile spam. lag was trying to catch up, but would seem to slow as well. some targets went down, however we lost far more than the stoven drake army. reps were flooding broadcasts, and many pilots could not get locks on anything. After our small amount of logi went down, it was only a matter of time before the rest of the fleet got hosed. In an attempt to move back to the gate, I was informed INIT. had left the field. I was a little disapointed to see this happen, after we fielded the majority of the fleet, and were committed. Those that made it back to the gate, were ganked again by dirt nap squad. Kudos for shooting blues.

Station was later popped and TCU anchored by Stoven & friends.

Kudos to Stoven for the fight. Am curious to know, is the drake the new flagship of stoven?

//Aden Hughes

[Striker]

INIT & Friends tried to kill onlining TCU in tr0-7. We managed to gather up emergency 200+ man fleet and force them off the field.

[Questo]

Kudos to Stoven for the fight. Am curious to know, is the drake the new flagship of stoven?

//Aden Hughes

No. But it works nice so far. It it stops working we will change the conception.

[Malcanis]

INIT & Friends tried to kill onlining TCU in tr0-7. We managed to gather up emergency 200+ man fleet and force them off the field.

Stain & co fought brilliantly. Lag was acceptable; 1-10 seconds module lag and I had no issues with grouped weapons, although I did take auto-repeat off and manually cycle.

[Giacomo Carissimi]

DT are already losing their space? BUTTER DOG! WHERE ARE YOU!

[Zev]

DT are already losing their space? BUTTER DOG! WHERE ARE YOU!

Did you really expect them to keep it for long?

[Securitas]

DT are already losing their space? BUTTER DOG! WHERE ARE YOU!

Losing 2 systems is hardly putting them on the track to losing it all...but yes I can't say I'm surprised.

[Zev]

Losing 2 systems is hardly putting them on the track to losing it all...but yes I can't say I'm surprised.

Granted, but they ain't doing well at defending, most of the time everyone seems to go for Sys-K > Dt, and from the last couple of battle reports, they are getting hit pretty damn hard.

[Deira]

To me, and even though i currently rent from DT i dont have any live experience with them yet. It seems that DT is is a wee bit fresh to the "Lets to it ourselves" + "Lagmonster" + "err, how does RR work again". Ontop of that it seems that a whole bunch of them are still in process in figuring out what is where and how to get there. Wile STOVEN etc have that shit sorted for the last few years now.

If DT doesnt get assraped and sieged out in the next 2 weeks. I'd say they will adapt and fix themselves. Or collapse in a heap of fire like everyone hopes they do.
Im figuring that they will fix themselves, especialy wile INIT etc is flying along with them. Once that is gone however. Meh, if i say more ill get kicked out of mah space v0v

[Securitas]

Well if Stain is only there for good fights, and AAA said it was better that they lost their space anyway, I don't really see DT losing theirs.

[Varesk]

There is a lot of stuff happening that isnt being reported. DT have had CTAs almost every night of the past week to defend stations or remove SBUs. BRs havent been posted because they are destroyed and no resistance is anywhere to be found.

The times there are ~goodfights~ they are fun and last for a while. This weekend the number people logging in has went down. I havent logged in since Friday to swap a longer skill. Its halloween weekend and there is beer to drink and parties to be found.

[ReformedLurker]

You shouldn't be suprised DT is terrible tbh. Nor C02.

[Velonad]

Can't say I'm surprised.

[Dental Floss]

Yes, I think everyone needs to remember for a moment that if by "fought brilliantly," then you mean "camped the in-gate on an unreinforced node with 300+ drakes to kill 200 BS with ungrouped missile launchers to promote missile lag," then yes, St0ven fought brilliantly. If by "lag was acceptable" you mean that it took 15 seconds for any broadcasts to show up and I sat in my pod for a full 10 minutes waiting to either warp out or be nuked by smartbombs only to somehow get podded by a drake, then sure, lag was acceptable.

Apart from that, the main reason this fight was lost was organizational fuckups, tbh.

[Securitas]

Nor C02.

6NJ~

[Aaron]

this darth you speak of in sys-k you mean darth solo from insurgency or another darth?

also co2 might have 1000 members but its split in 3 time zones, our bulk isnt concentrated on one time zone like coven/stain

[Czech Lion]

We are looking at number of problems.

Actually i believe losing the space they couldnt utilize anyway was the only thing saving AAA and ROL to some extent as well. Now they have come from the we have to defend to we can conquer mentality. Being the attacker is so much less stressfull, as in the end, you get good fights and maybe get some sov. For the defender its about keeping sov or dying.

Next problem that these good fights make numbers of CO2/DT smaller and smaller every day. DT lost like almost half of its members, CO2 few as well. If you look at the trend, Stainwagon keeps pushing numbers at the same level, while dt+co are way down from 2-3 weeks ago. Thats the problem of constant CTA´s, people are burning out. Its AAA only reversed.

Another problem is that INIT. wont keep the people afloat if they see they bring 20-30 people to the fight. There is no point in it. Better corps to INIT Merc. and the rest gtfo and die. Feythabolis is unholdable with DT having so much space. The sooner they realize it the better. CO2/ED can exist if they tightly cooperate with INIT in Impass/Catch.

DT as alliance is at crossroads. There is no easy way out, but the alliance is dying by all signs. They need fresh pilots, new blood, new tactics and get rid of this horrible punching bag image. I dont think its a bad alliance, and i think many pilots are good. But i doubt they like the current situation and they should talk with the leadership about what changes should be made. Cuase if the leaders dont see it, its up to the people. Not being silent lambs but good advisors and supporters of a change.

[Aaron]

larf still rules. the core of DT will survive. And all this dt death talk is too soon, and their bad image is only left over from horrus.

[Onelook]

Yes, I think everyone needs to remember for a moment that if by "fought brilliantly," then you mean "camped the in-gate on an unreinforced node with 300+ drakes to kill 200 BS with ungrouped missile launchers to promote missile lag," then yes, St0ven fought brilliantly. If by "lag was acceptable" you mean that it took 15 seconds for any broadcasts to show up and I sat in my pod for a full 10 minutes waiting to either warp out or be nuked by smartbombs only to somehow get podded by a drake, then sure, lag was acceptable.

PS: Oh wait... You are flying a BS with T1 guns http://www.eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=103700

[RansomList]

There are times when it is acceptable to call someone a spin doctor but this is not one of them.

[Tyrael]

Also Windypops and Butters
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/D...orists/changes
33% down 1 month right?

Eso is literally Afghanistan, you just leave it alone