The Colorblind Angel of Kugutsumen - Turning Bad Country into Mad Country one post a time
These are the "official" members of the NC
Test and Goons are those crazy neighbors next door that you still like.
So they don't get t-shirts and hats?
http://killboard.ev0ke.de/?a=kill_related&kll_id=110214
looks like MC came in after we left and got rolled. pretty funny actually.
Ev0ke brought out everything they had for today's fight. it was still pretty laggy on a reinforced node (i made sure that got done last night myself). guns still weren't cycling and they had us beat on logistics (about double). There were two NC fleets and one Deklein fleet. One NC fleet was not even allowed to jump in system, as gates were locked (?) and the WIdot and PB fleet got pretty rocked early on when they lost their logistics. We had a good fight with Ev0ke for about an hour or two where it seemed like no one was dying. Eventually once we realized that Ev0ke was immediately reshipping when we killed them that it was a waste of time so we got out. It was fun, but not as fun as it could have been if there wasn't so much fucking lag. Local peaked at about 450 and lag was miserable, but not as bad as e9kd. We got to see what Ev0ke could bring in their prime, which was about 20 supers, 5 titans and 200 drakes and scimitars.
Really? We are going back to this argument? Everyone who is blue to each other in the North is considered NC. You all fly each other, share coms (no, not 100% of the time) and work together towards common goals.
The day you all reset each other and stop blobbing up systems together, you may see people recognize you differently. Simply trying to differentiate yourselves by making up a name by calling yourself the Deklein Coalition isn't going to sway it.
~tactical victory~
christ you guys are terrible, although I must I'm admit I'm a bit of an evoke fanboi (who isn't, they're german and de facto cool)
don't you find it utterly humiliating to bring so many alliances to deal with one, and yet still fail? also can someone tell me why MC came rolling in with artypests like its 2004?
it still surprises me how we get tech2 ships in fleet, people with that much SP are usually dying of Parkinson or dementia(comedy deaths like freezing to death in the fridge because they mistake it for a shower).
but what about my serious question about MC............
CCP non-interventionist policy regarding fleet fights in 0.0, lmfao.
While trying to work my way in on the hostile fleet (raptor) I lost control of my ship. It just flew straight and off grid. So I attempted to re-log. After multiple failures I petitioned and was told the usual (ie, it's under investigation and we can do nothing).
Thx for ruining my Sunday EVE time CCP.
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Watching Quesa die was satisfying.
Quesa actually logs in? Well now I've seen everything.
It's true, Quesa actually plays EVE ONLINE:
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/484162
I'll attempt to write up something but tbh I'm too tired to put any effort, because of this, I'll just link a single, random picture.
Whilst hearing that NC was forming up to remove an EVOKE POS a couple jumps from P-2, we decided to take a fleet over. Also, due to abnormally high numbers in our fleet, we thought it would be fun to run over in some aHac's. NC-Dek had somewhere around 100 and I think that was counting 15-20 caps, most being Dreads. NC-PB had their Fleet BS, which are now mid-ranged RR (which are easy pickins for aHac's). The largest problem was staying at range from the drake blob the NC-Dek peeps brought, which was about 30 + the 50 other BC's and tackle they always bring.
NC-PB was able to get into system before hand but they decided to stay 40k off the gate, making our jump in a rather easy call. We lost a single aHac while killing a decent chunk of the BS fleet + alot of their support and dictors. NC-Dek didn't come on to the field, which the reason was unknown until later but we thanked the PvP Gods when in warp to a ping. NC-PB BS's were unable to get into the POS, and due to horrid probers on our side, we were unable to get a warpin on them before they started rotating deep ss's in the system. NC-Dek jumped in their caps and began warping on to the hostile pos as the NC-PB fleet warped in on the opposite side, out of range of the other friendly forces, also too close for them to warp strait to us. So, we warped in and pop'd a few more, might have lost 1 or 2 but it's all mixed together with our semi-leroy into the Drake blob. We were bleeding aHacs so the decision was made to align off, to my detrimentas it's alot easier to kill a sig tanker once they are aligning strait off. Also my FPS dropped to about 3 FPS but once I was in a pod it shot back up to 40, who the hell knows?
Op success for us as we got to stretch our long waiting aHac legs again. (aHac's really are fun)
Op success for NC as they killed the Evoke tower and I died, apparently this is some big thing for the NC-PB people, who knew?
Here be killboard link.
http://kb.eve-doom.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=7636724
It was about 200-220~ish NC vs our, I think, 60~ish aHac fleet. Local was pretty solid except for the tad bit-o-lag during the last battle. I thought for sure we lost more, maybe there are some losses not posted.
GF's ya'all.
Also, because I laughed when I first saw it::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bevJr3Ra84Q
http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=31908
BR From TEST POV.
Killing Quesa is fun because he's our favorite kugu shitposter.
Never stop posting.
-post kb br that doesn't show friendly losses
-smacktalk quesa
FORUM POST SUCCESS!
I happen to like Quesa. But yeah, NC-PB was in their own fleet, own comms, and not really coordinating all that well with us. You had TEST, GSF, and BCA in one fleet, along with {everyone else} in another.
I had brackets off while flying MY SCORPION and didn't even know there was another friendly fleet until I saw hostiles warp in to the other side of the POS and throw up a bubble. That should give you an idea of the amount of coordination occurring between fleets.
2nd time in a row that a NC fleet got murdered because they weren't coordinating with the other friendly fleet.
420 helplessly watch blues die erryday.
Because they're in our coalition, and just because we failed at coordinating doesn't mean their losses don't count.
And I have to ask, did Quesa touch you somewhere that made you uncomfortable? You seem verry bitter for some reason. Which is weird, 'cause Quesa seems like a pretty chill dude who's posts, and battlereports in particular, are very good.
This is now a WIdot thread.
Information was spread throughout the proper channels about what we were doing in ku5r and no one from PB decided to try to coordinate. It was mentioned in both the PB FC channels and in jabber many hours before we actually did anything. It's not our fault that PB guys refuse to come and coordinate with us. We're trying - but warping to the opposite side of the tower as the larger support fleet is dumb - there was no way we could help you AT ALL.
Quesa also touched our capital fleet in a bad way. As for his writing...it's not up to the Sigma level of posting.
I heard the pb coms from this fight. The nc fc repeatedly called Quesa primary despite his ship having about a dozen logi duct taped to the outside of it. Then he kept him primary even when it was apparent that his fleet couldn't even red bar his armor a sliver due to all the logi on him. So much for 'Fleet BS' alpha. It took caps on the field to do the job. Logi rules the day people...learn it, live it.If you check the killboard, you'll notice I play pretty actively - usually spotted numerously on the losses side though.
The "fleet bs" concept the NC is experimenting with only works if you have the alpha. Getting that alpha sorta requires people to actually be in the gd ships in the first place. Lately, the recipe for PB nc CTA's seem to consist of:
Add 1x50man battleship fleet
Mix in 3x100man "right click, fit all" bc fleets
Next add A dash of your obligatory Goon-Testes rifter squad
Apply caps once 100 or more blue ships explode.
Repeat
Pro-tip for FC's: If you're terrified, don't hold the mic key down so your fleet can hear you breathlessly wheeze into it while your fleet is slowly crumbling around you. It's bad for moral. And yes, coordination is over rated. So is making sure you know the 'safe pos' password before fleet warping into it. The nc is sorta getting a rep lately for that one.
to be fair everyone need each other because PB forces are under constant threat the people like us living in Dek. I mean we see red gangs but those guys live right there. if PB is overrun then it will cause all of us some problems. Everyone need to loose ther ego and work out a systems. Also some people in NC cannot hang around in goon fleets. Two fleets are better option but the FCs must have a constant communication to get shit done.
Not EXACTLY Logistics that's winning the fight when the FC doesn't switch targets. If someone's getting repped up you just switch to someone else. Certainly Logistics is going to help, as well as lag/:CCP:, but then again if Quesa was on the field I would probably have a huge hard on for killing him to. So really can you blame the FC?
I would respectfully submit TEST, Goons and sundry cease attempting to differentiate themselves from the NC and antagonising allies, by the grace of whom you are allowed a region to live in. It's a baseless childish serious business attitude you should really stop pushing, or possibly have your CEO's tell you what you're doing wrong. Considering all of the couple months you've had to try so hard getting along without incident in a sea of happy blues and the supposed idea you're just here to have fun and keep posting. I would much like to hear a TEST member (age 6 months) give us an insight into their grievances or how they might hold space at all right now without their "allies by default not choice" giving it them, or a Goon tell us their brosefs TCF were on board with this "Deklein Coalition not NC" agenda before the handover.
I do find it amusing we have heard not a peep from them in any way while they've been gaining sov and setting up the bots, and the very second they begin a new campaign here they are pissing on allies.
I would respectfully submit that you're dumber than a carebear on meth.
I do find it amusing that you think Test can bot, though.
I have no idea what you are babbling about, but I think you answered your own questions. We hold space because of our friendship with Goons. We don't owe anything to the other alliances out there. Umm, TCF gave their friends Deklein. The alliances that are in PB and in Dek, were already there so "by default" they are allies because of our dislike for many of the same enemies. How are we antagonising the NC anyways? I am posting on a forum about what I believe, not the entire alliance or my CEO. You seem to be a little anxious and nervous brotha. I didn't see anyone pissing on allies. But I do think your post is actually a fair representation of much of the NC subscribing to the belief that goons and friends will be the downfall of the NC.
EDIT: I think you are thinking of Stella Polaris in regards to the bots. Or you are complaining about trying to make isk in systems that do not belong to you and are upset that goons and TEST have a lot of members actively making isk in their space. Either way it shouldn't really concern you about what goes on in Goon and Test held Dek.
EDIT EDIT: I want to reinforce the belief that the Deklein Coalition is here to take over all of the north and kick everyone out. God you are dumb.
Who knew the biggest threat to terrible NC alliances was not Molle or Tri or the SC but rather the superior posting of Goons/TEST.
Not sure what the big deal is. TEST have been pretty good neighbors since we moved north. Going by my evemails (was not on this weekend) there might have been a comms SNAFU of some sort, so I can see there might have been an issue there. I don't run into Goons that often but they seem OK for the most part. The worst I hear is moaning about local spam from people who can't figure out how to minimize local or overlay it with another tab.
As for being default friends, anyone in PB has those as well. We were each invited by one of the existing alliances who informed us who to blue. That doesn't seem terribly uncommon from what I've seen in null thus far.
TEST are awesome, but fuck mumble.
Mumble > the rest. gtfo.
Go ask anyone in RZR, MM, or other NC foundations if Goons and Test are NC. The response that you get is the same - they are allies. We like the NC. People play HON / Tanks together all the time. There's constant chatter in jabber channels between us but we're not considered members. If one of our systems was under attack, they'd most likely come and help, and if one of their systems was under attack, we'd most likely come and help.
Ask anyone in PB when there's problems. You see Goons and Test there - because we're allies and it benefits us both to defend this space.
You may not understand this, but in Test and Goons, there are no such things as a CTA. Sure the FC might bitch a bit in general channels when there aren't a lot of people Xing up for fleets - but there's no consequence. You can continue to rat or shoot rocks and no one is gonna kick you from the alliance.
That being said - in order to continue to hold space in nullsec, you have to go to some fleets. In Test at least a huge consideration of letting a corp into alliance is if they want to PVP or not. We like to explode and hopefully take bad guys down with us.
This is why there's a difference. There's a separate culture between us and most of the PB residents. We still like them though and applaud their enthusiasm and resiliency. Considering how hostile their space is, with constant threat of hot drops from NCdot and roaming gangs from Ev0ke, Darkside, Bladedot, SoT, and ex-0utbreak, they don't live an easy life.
Also botting will get you kicked from Test.
(sorry for the somewhat rambling post, not enough coffee)
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