Tue Sep 07,
Originally Posted by Alekseyev KarrdeProvi update:
People were almost uniformly impressed at our fighting in KBP today, but participation from the rest of the region was bad. We had a meeting to get everyone on the same page going forward.
Now we're no 0.0 sov warfare alliance and we're not into "CTAs". But we do want "in" on beating up on PL for invading Providence and for making mercs look bad via scamming. Reputation we dont have much to lose challenging PL but there are some gains to be made if we can help stonewall then or push them back. Since the next employer doesnt want us to do his job this coming week (he lives in Provi) and the start date for the contract after is set, it's not like we have anything better to do so let's have some fun and whip Rainbow Coalition into shape.
PL's invasion violates the NIP and we will have our neighbors backs for as long as our contract schedule will allow. We cant even fathom why whether or not the alliances will support DK against PL has even come up as a point of discussion. That's the attitude i had going into the meeting and after much discussion and priority setting i think everyone that matters is now with us here.
Everyone is with us except FIGL (who werent around to be asked) and SODACAISHO who will not fight. Standings with AAA, C02, and Agony are the only things that remain unsettled. Agony will likly remain neutral but lead gangs against PL, C02 will likly blue and participate but nothing is confirmed with either of them at this time. AAA will be blue shortly.
When Provi is strong:
EU TZ is a bit weak, especially compared to PL. Goal here should be to make PL work for everything, and get lots of fun fights like we had today.
US TZ has an immense presence between all the Provi alliances, and this is when we'll probably be going on the offense.
EU TZ will be "led" by us, in partic by Sweet Julie. I convinced them he knows what he's doing ;p D'K and Jessie will be backups unless and until AAA fully commits
US TZ will be "led" by BDEAL, in partic Gavin Goodrich. If they decide to commit, AGONY will co-lead this TZ
What we're doing:
- Drakes w logi (like we did in KBP)
- Bombers for hit n runs (trying to destroy structures with torp bomber flash mods or setting up bomb runs)
AAA will prob dictate whatever they want fielded if/when they deploy their supercaptial assets, so standby for an addition to this list at some point.
If you are in the wormhole, stay there until i post you can leave. We're still on contract. When i post we're done follow the below instructions.
Everyone who came out for KBP: Keep an eye out for posted ops and interesting looking fleets in fleet finder. Feel free to start your own fleets and invite people if nothing is going on, but fight smart. No one wants to throw away ships and we wont win a war of attrition vs PL. Get at least one Anaconda ship and at least one bomber (or support for a bomber gang) in Amarr. If you have nothing to do, move those ships up to Esescama and buy 2-3 spares.Originally Posted by LaevateinnEveryone, pay particular attention to the Anaconda gang discussion. Now that we are getting real data on how that gang works against large targets, and against the Fist, we can adjust fittings. The Anaconda was designed to fight the Fist, and we demonstrated that when we did that at range, it is extremely difficult to break with an ABing fleet. The discovery of scan resolution dampening is a welcome bonus, but we still need to stay on our toes - that HAC gang takes a lot more to kill, and we had stupid losses of squishy ships that were down to pilots herp derping and sitting in the middle of the combat group. There is no reason logistics and Recons should be following the Claymore at 500m, especially when a Fist gang is in system and they can get warpins. Use your own judgment and keep away from formations like that. You guys just cannot be lazy in fights like that.
ALL DRAKES: If you haven't already, start training for T2 Dampeners (Sensor Linking IV) and the Signal Suppression Skill, get that to level 3 at least (+15% effectiveness to Sensor Dampener Effectiveness). If you get time, train Target Painting to IV and Signature Focusing to 3 at least. (+15% effect of TPs)
BOMBERS: Primary Bomb type is Kinetic, secondary is EM. Despite what bomber you are, you must only bring these bombs.Originally Posted by Loorenwe need definitetly more Logisticīs
as we cannot outnumber most of possible enemy Fleets in 0.0 we need a ratio of 1 Logi for 4 other Ships for non Contract Fleets.
The only way we can stay and fight agains the usual 0.0 Fleets of 30-40 Ships.Originally Posted by sWeEt JulieLogis Stay Logis. There is only one ship we have even more need for than the Drakes. And these are Logis :-)Originally Posted by Alekseyev Karrdeht*tp://noir.pinacoderm.com/alliancekb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15220
::coughs:: i dont think raiding HED is a productive way to convince aaa to help out with PL ^^Originally Posted by Alekseyev Karrdeops for ihub and station timers posted. Look for a bunch of POS defense fleets scattered throughout the day, Fc's try to get plugged into any you can as they're opportunities for kills.
Remember, dont throw ships away to PL. Engage in stand up fights if it looks like you can achieve the objective or defeat their gang, if you cant live to fight another day. Gank in the mean timesOriginally Posted by sWeEt Julieis this proper behaviour ?
i was campin some PL guys in Assah since Grunts. have war aginst them to harass in HS and Low i was just reading Local after getting blobbed and docked:[13:02:30] kamarr vost > you awake ryu you asian basterd?[13:04:30] Haack Mah > fucking nigger jew ass bitch cunt faggot fuckstain[13:04:59] Haack Mah > kill your bitch ass self u worthless cum your mother should have swolloed[13:08:18] Haack Mah > <b><url=showinfo:1378//191107780>Ryu Goto</url></b> eats bags of dicks for breakfastCan we please kick the shit out of them today ? i was never offended like that in a local. i personally dont like to speak in local.[13:10:13] Haack Mah > cuntlipsOriginally Posted by Guda LoggPetition it... period.
Why?! Offense and inapropiate language. That easy. Iīve been petitioned for calling someone "Latrine", as you might remember...Originally Posted by sWeEt Juliepetition out, standard reply.Originally Posted by Crucible5Yeah PL are known for thier smack, but what they wrote is a whole new low for them tbh.
Just petition it and hint at the GM that sort of shit should not be tolerated. Jeez these PL carebears take the game too seriously when the shoe is on the other foot :lol:Originally Posted by LaevateinnAll that needs to be done is to escalate it and carry on gathering evidence if you get the standard reply. Obviously the guys a tool, and you should look to try and get him to run his mouth more and seal the deal. It IS PL though, so expect more of this. Maybe we should get them all banned. :P