[Majesta Empire] GERMAN GIGGLES For President - December 2010

[Viper ShizzIe]

Well, who else than the most loved/hated member of Majesta Empire and one of the most polarizing members of the northern coalition? Roll Eyes

It's been a year since as a Diplo I struck a deal with Tholak to get the remanent of the two best industrial corps in the aftermath of the Great Wildlands f0undation/COW war in Vale. Majesta Received us with their arms opened and a year after i can say that ME is simply the best alliance evah! in EVE.

Ok, a little bit about me:

Born nude, helpless and unable to care for himself, riverini overcame this difficulties to become one of the most talked about non CEO players of EVE online, Current bearer of the German Giggles, appointed by no other than the very Derek Chu, riverini haz spearheaded the CAOD jihad against the evils of Tri and the Kugu evangelization in the doctrine of the German Luv.!

Now let's get some perspective of how would be a Reign of Terror under the helm of Riverini.

First! FIGHTERS AND MOAR!!!

http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-...-5-4-10-kc.jpg

One of my first "Paradigm Shift" will be the encouragement of Capital Production FOR ALLIANCE USE, together with the industrialist base of Majesta Empire i will study the feasibility and create a master plan to ensure the 15% of the current Majesta empire member base is armed with a capital ship within a year from the announcement of the program. this will round about +300 caps for ME ensuring an investment and insurance against any threats majesta might encounter.

http://imgur.com/zRAyz.jpg

Is it my believe that majesta already is one of the regional game changers in eve and that this is the natural step to follow.

Also if we can have like moar ppl doing anomalies with asigned fighters everyone will get filthy rich... Cool Cool Cool Shocked

Secondly! we need Noobs! lots of

I want to propose our own social networking based corporation for the sole purpose of getting a noob player base, why? i tell ya why:

http://imgur.com/3us4t.jpg

I believe there will be a high motivation factor of having this noobs in Majesta or a Sub Majesta alliances (read not pet, i dont believe in pets, pettage blows!).

I have been studying dreddit for the third issue of the COSMOPEWLITAN and all i can say is WOW, this is simply amazing that these guys haz done with some good planning and a common starting point (reddit posters) i believe this should be studied and encouraged for the long term well being of majesta empire.

Third - Moar Space!!!!

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/042/55...aispleased.jpg

Right now i feel like majesta empire is a little bit crowded and some things should be done to make some space moar comfortable, atm Venal and Geminate seems like a good place to start, this needs to be consulted but there will be the goal of providing moar space for the player base, either be in NPC space or Conquerable Space.

Fourth
CHANGE THE FACE OF MAJESTA EMPIRE.

- Internet Spaceships -> not so Serious Bizness!

http://imgur.com/mbN48.jpg

Every single time I giggle in local, i get a scolding, this needs to change for the emotional factor, a cpl weeks ago i went to CJ6 and we were al greeted with BFF love, man that felt amazing! and while giggling in local is very cool (specially after busting a camp - my specialty), i believe some moar things could be done to really create a a : PERSONA : for majesta empire members.

We need WIDOT threads , CAOD memes, youtube videos, images memes and so, we need ppl to hear about Majesta, have a laugh and keep us in their mindset, this in the long run will have moar positive repercussion than the negative repercussions some of the most conservative alliance members might argue about.

Every time i see a This is a WIDOT thread i get like "haha these guys fucking rules", and i know am not the only one. but in the end, if WIDOT failscales (again) am pretty sure most of the ppl who enjoyed their WIDOT antics (besides pew pew) will join them again.

Most of you don't know, but little by little am taking more relevance on the information front of EVE online, and yes eventually i will take over and this sort of stuff really benefit majesta in projecting the right image we all want.

FIVE!
Redesigning the Internets!

http://imgur.com/sJlY1.jpg

I'll have the ME re-designed, same for the forums and KB, also, i will provide sub hosting for all ME corps via subdomain, that's it corps that currently do not haz hosting, example

http://reliables.majesta-empire.com

included there will be forums, kb and shit. Also included will be monthly alliance bulletin sheets for the public to know.

and well, that's basically it, am proposing a Five side Reform

1. Boosting our Capital Ship deployment capabilities.
2. Creating a forgiving environment for newer players to get into ME and support us.
3. Provide More space for day to day operations.
4. Finally move majesta to less conservative Mindset, allowing for more relaxed and enjoyable gaming experience.
5. Redesigning the website and providing ME with better looking tools of communications.

On a very Serious note, while am most of the time looked at as a mischievous and careless player who do most of the stuff simply for the lulz (true, true), little players know about my RL profile as an accomplished art director for a Multinational company, basically am in charge of the development of new products (concept, design of the device, packaging, art direction) which is a great precedent of commitment, seriousness and over all the ability to dream and to fight for the desire of seeing those dreams come true.

I believe that one of the reasons that would make any candidate fit for this role is simply the fact to be madly in love with the ME project and more than looking well being for himself, i believe that a good CEO should be restless in the efforts to look for the well being of the whole alliance, and that's exactly what i wanna do.

GERMAN GIGGLES Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
RIVERINI

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i will study the feasibility and create a master plan to ensure the 15% of the current Majesta empire member base is armed with a capital ship within a year

first of the term is 6 months and not a year in office and second is how do u suggest funding such a program ? , who will build them ? , who will receive them ? how will they get shared between all corps fairly ?

in my experience caps are allway dealt with on corp level and not alliance each corp builds and distributes them to members and not the alliance

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we need Noobs! lots of

who is gonna recruit them ? who is gonna train them ? who is gonna run around dealing with the diplomatic aftermath of them non stop fucking up? do we realy want a ton of noobs shitting up our fleets?
most important question is do we want more noobs ? or actualy more experience members with more pvp know how to make our fleets better not worse?

we are not goons who have vast experience in these kinda schemes and would take us months infact years to perfect a nooby drive type of recruiting

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Moar Space!!!!
Right now i feel like majesta empire is a little bit crowded and some things should be done to make some space moar comfortable, atm Venal and Geminate seems like a good place to start, this needs to be consulted but there will be the goal of providing moar space for the player base, either be in NPC space or Conquerable Space.

FYI venal is and allways has been free for all , any 1 in NC can go rat/mission/plex/ pvp / what ever u like around the whole region. if u wana go there its up to u
and as far as geminate are we not actualy taking some of it right now?

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Geminate

vale residents have allready taken many systems there , what is it that u are offering that is new? and how do intend to do it?
wanting more space is 1 thing but actualy getting it done is another, that requires more than just statement but needs a wealth of experience in leading and planning sov warfare campaigns.

can you please point out and example of some campaign that u have lead?

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CHANGE THE FACE OF MAJESTA EMPIRE.

- Internet Spaceships -> not so Serious Bizness!

im sorry mate but leading 2500 member alliance is kinda semi serious business, when u fuck up people wont just let it slide and u receive pretty real agry reaction, that i would categorise as ''serious'' .

running around abusing local after u have beating an enemie that is allready humiliated from defeat does not win you any friends. infact it just shows how childish people are.

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We need WIDOT threads , CAOD memes, youtube videos, images memes and so, we need ppl to hear about Majesta, have a laugh and keep us in their mindset, this in the long run will have moar positive repercussion than the negative repercussions some of the most conservative alliance members might argue about.

this statement is just wrong , spreading shitty propaganda is just gonna have negative repercussions full stop. people will know about ur alliance is its worth knowing about because it excels at what it does. because its is a win alliance that is good not because it spread false propaganda.

actions speak louder than any words, get the job done right and execute it with 100% accuracy and people will remember and know who you are without having to brain wash them.
videos and posters are good ideas but without the work behind it they are just shitty propaganda.

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Every time i see a This is a WIDOT thread i get like "haha these guys fucking rules", and i know am not the only one. but in the end, if WIDOT failscales (again) am pretty sure most of the ppl who enjoyed their WIDOT antics (besides pew pew) will join them again.

Every time i see a This is a WIDOT thread i think '' what a bunch of moronic retards ''

when i read this i close the thread because widot just spam irrelevant shit in threads that totaly derail the subject and shit up a once interesting discussion.
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Most of you don't know, but little by little am taking more relevance on the information front of EVE online, and yes eventually i will take over and this sort of stuff really benefit majesta in projecting the right image we all want.

i know exactly what is going on in these forums u are talking about , and you seem to be totaly dreaming and delusional. infact wtf are you talking about ? i can spend all day copy pasting posts from all kinds of forums that u are active in where loads of people complain about your shit posting and actualy ask you to stop it
how this will project a positive image for majesta realy confuses me, can you please elaborate?

in my experience in game and in real life you need to give respect to receive it back . you need to spread good to receive good. in other words i belive in Karma and running around spewing random shit in local to insult your enemies will only come back 1 day to bite you in the ass.

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Redesigning the Internets!

now this is something that you would excel at. and i belive you should focus more on this kinda thing
i know u started something in the past but u never finished it

can u please show us some of the work u allready done and what u plan to add?



Now in conclusion after all this said and done i just want you to realy understand what i have experienced and learned after being in majesta leadership for the last 9 months is that this is not a glamorous fancy pimp position to be an alliance leader.

infact you are nothing more than the public face that represent the alliance and that spend all its time solving drama lama reading and writing mails and doing non stop horrible diplomatic work
every day u have people screaming, crying and emo raging at you and telling you how fail you and your alliance are . dont think this is a fun ride because it is not , its a stressfull filled with diploatic bullshit job that will push you every day to the point of quitting the game totaly.

so my advice for you is think about what you are getting into, and you cant be '' im not serious, its just internet spaceships '' because the abuse you will have to deal with daily is pretty serious and real.


To end i want to thank you riv for being brave and coming out the first persone and announcing your candidacy
i wish you good luck and i hope that you do not take offense from some of the stuff i said. i look forward to the answers you have for my questions.

first of all Tounsi, i really appreciate the time you took reading some of the ideas i have proposed here, while some ppl might dismiss me as a Dedicated Troll, i know that u really get the insight of the love i have for majesta and as every election, even in the very probable outcome of me not being elected, the whole idea of having election is not simply appalling the voices clamoring for a “just opportunity for everyone” but for the winning candidate to be able to listen some of the ideas the other candidate have and if it is good, am more than sure that it will be added to the appointed leader’s agenda.

Responding to your interrogants i will go point per point, in a very roughly way to speak.

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first of the term is 6 months and not a year in office and second is how do u suggest funding such a program ? , who will build them ? , who will receive them ? how will they get shared between all corps fairly ?
in my experience caps are allway dealt with on corp level and not alliance each corp builds and distributes them to members and not the alliance

1. Am planning ahead to leave a working plan for the next prime minister, who would oversee the start of production, that’ would be six months of preparation -> next prime minister continue the work with all the laid down efforts.

Ok, Everyone will hate me for this, but i will propose TAXES for both corp and refine. Kill me now please, but is it the only feasible way to do this and i don’t have 100 bil to give.

BTW this whole plan would cost us 1-1.5 titans or 6-8 Supercaps at the reason of 0.6 bil per cap. (will get this figure corrected.)

That’s why I said that this needed to be discussed with every CEO/Industrialist, i know everyone hate moar taxes (fuck in panama here we had was a 2% increase last month) yet on the other side, i pay them happily if i know they will get to good use. I propose 1% (example figure) corp taxes to go to the Capital Ships fund, same for refinement / reprocessing (all this needs to be discussed, seriously and openly with the involved parts)

Hey i know am proposing to take away a percentage of other ppl hard earned game money, don’t hate me for this but I am promising a very difficult goal for MAJESTA or any alliance in EVE Online, i know this is tough shit to ask a cut of, but am being very honest with the whole alliance here, that money need to be taken out of somewhere and paid by someone.

Capital Ship Lotteries: Basically alliance bound lotteries, the ally sells the tickets, with the strong encouragement that these will not me sold to third party from the winners, basically is a self funding way to ensure that either way a new member in the alliance will have a capital ship in the end of the lottery. If in the course of a year, 12 (twelve) capital ships are awarded, it might be a considerable achievement specially if those 12 players did not had training for a cap in their med-term plans.

Census: One thing that gets off the way is the fact that majesta already have a decent capital ship fleet, although not as big as the plan wants, this will be audited and we’ll start working from there on, the goal is for us to have 15% of the Alliance membership "Capital Ready". Right now i don’t know if we have 3%, 5% or 7% of the Alliance membership "Capital Ready". we need to get that number, see what's lacking and plan from there on.

Production:

Option one. this is very individualistic.

40% Ally / 60% appointed corp player. -> the alliance will cover only a percentage of the capital ship, players after being reviewed with their CEO apply, all industrialist corps will propose a price for this program, the corp that sets the lowest price wins the building “contract”.

Option two. The one i like the most.

40% Ally to industrial builder as a sort of production subsidy -> very accessible price for corp buyer:
this is done in RL with corn/maize/wheat, etc. The alliance will cover a percentage of the capital ship, this goes to producers which in turn will allow to build at a profit and at fixed prices (set by alliance), encouraging corp members to buy them at very reasonable prices (limitations should be set so ppl do not abuse of this, let’s say 1 capital per pilot)

Fact: Even if this fail and we manage to get about only an increase of 3% more capital ships, if with careful planning we manage to get 50 or 75 “new pilots” in a year, new pilots who otherwise won’t be there to man (and fund) those caps, it still will be a considerable success. am i increasing success by lowering expectations? maybe, but still a positive turnout for the alliance. Also, it will depend of how many caps can we build within a year anyway (capital around 12 days -> about 28 per year, per industrialist facility non-stop, perfect skills).

Again 300 pilots (currently existing + the new ones this “surge” might get) is unrealistic? that’s why there is a need to be sit, think this very well and let’s to put a realistic and achievable number and let’s try to cross that bridge.

The main idea is to get beyond the natural growth of capital pilots the alliance will have within a year in a systematic way. and to Remember that it will one one capital per Member included in this program and not applicable to regular capital production.

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who is gonna recruit them ? who is gonna train them ? who is gonna run around dealing with the diplomatic aftermath of them non stop fucking up? do we realy want a ton of noobs shitting up our fleets?
most important question is do we want more noobs ? or actualy more experience members with more pvp know how to make our fleets better not worse?

we are not goons who have vast experience in these kinda schemes and would take us months infact years to perfect a nooby drive type of recruiting

2. True, still i feel u failed to ask the right question “what kind of noobs would we want anyways?”
If you plan recruiting goon’s material this might be a shithole (i can imagine ppl screaming “Heil H-tler” in local and getting banned from CCP) but what if we manage to get a deal with EVE university or other serious institutions to get their graduates, or ex-graduates, to get players of about 6 months, potential tounsies, rebnotts and mjed’s?“

who is gonna recruit them ? who is gonna train them?” the truth is that “someone will need to”, and i know this is the sort of response that simply get u on your nerves but beside the elite players we would like to have, there are dedicated players that do enjoy helping out new players and there is a lot of high sec serious CEO’s who would commit to something like this, again this needs planning, an engaging common starting point (WoW forum based? Twitter based?) and am not just offering “hey i have this idea”, am offering to sit down and give it a good though, pros, cons, rules and present them to the ally council.

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FYI venal is and allways has been free for all , any 1 in NC can go rat/mission/plex/ pvp / what ever u like around the whole region. if u wana go there its up to u
and as far as geminate are we not actualy taking some of it right now?

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Geminate

vale residents have allready taken many systems there , what is it that u are offering that is new? and how do intend to do it?
wanting more space is 1 thing but actualy getting it done is another, that requires more than just statement but needs a wealth of experience in leading and planning sov warfare campaigns.

can you please point out and example of some campaign that u have lead?

3. This one is very interesting, do we need more space? or just make it accessible? should jump bridge (ally and neighbors) routes be reviewed to allow players to get to those new “many systems there” quickly that’s the things that am talking about, i know venal is right there but there is no venal intel channel that i know of (asked many, many times), there are not known towers for all members to know how to get around, etc. Who ever gets in the chair might need to address these issues.

Moar Space? there is a trend that simply get me proud: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/M...-27:2010-08-29

What if we hit 3500 within a year? We have been growing, mostly in part to good alliance leadership decisions and members commitments, and am proposing planning if there is the need to expand.

“can you please point out and example of some campaign that u have lead?” Answer: none i have served all my campaigns in ME under your command and i would serve many more gladly.

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Every time i see a This is a WIDOT thread i think '' what a bunch of moronic retards ''
when i read this i close the thread because widot just spam irrelevant shit in threads that totaly derail the subject and shit up a once interesting discussion.

4. Well, that’s their way of expressing themselves and they have a very singular way to do so and u have a very strong opinion about THAT WAY to express themselves and either way they feel proud of that.

To this day i haven’t seen a way of Majesta for expressing itself, i know we are of german origins still am writing in panama and u are in Europe/Africa and some Metalworks bro is reading this from Australia, so i ask what do Majesta pilots have as a common morale booster that makes them feels pride of? their killboards? we aren’t pirates, we aren’t like having an “in your face” attitude when we kill someone and then mail them an invoice of the ammo. I would say we are proud of all ME haz accomplished as an alliance.

I feel you got completely the wrong idea of what i really want: What i want to develop is a “Majesta Empire Culture” we have 2500 of the best pilots EVE can provide. we needs ways to remind them what we all have here.

I shall ask, how would you put in a simple sentence what you feel for Majesta Empire, Tounsi? so when u ask for a fleet form up u remind ppl about the “Majesta Way” of doing things? that we always need German Logic-stics? (see what i did there? ^__^ ).

Still i can come out with a bunch of stupid slogans that will never stick, you know why “German Giggles” have never stuck in Majesta? it’s not bcz is it stupid, is bcz it isn’t crowd-sourced from within Majesta.

Yet ppl see me in local and ask for the “German Giggles”, that’s something that empowers me, how about we find something that empowers the whole alliance? BFF worked very well as the expression of the Northen Coalition despite being against all the odds.

But for this the alliance should be allowed to express so we find that “power”, and am not saying in local, still this is the sort of things that simply cannot get engineered, they simply happen if we let them to happen.

By the way, WHERE DID “PUSCHY” GO? remember it?
http://www.majesta-empire.com/index.php?topic=3798.0

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i know exactly what is going on in these forums u are talking about , and you seem to be totaly dreaming and delusional. infact wtf are you talking about ? i can spend all day copy pasting posts from all kinds of forums that u are active in where loads of people complain about your shit posting and actualy ask you to stop it. how this will project a positive image for majesta really confuses me, can you please elaborate?

First the only post am active is the Kugutsumen post, and i post mainly on the Serious Discussion forum, the EVE-O stuff is so confusing for me. Am all against scrapheap, and am 21 days still on my CAOD ban. (for posting a link to issue 1 of the COSMO).

Yes I will elaborate, but on a private mail, the same way i informed you guys when i first wanted to make my magazine, which btw issue 2 haven’t come out, bcz all the fucking things happening around bobby atlas and he didn’t decided whether to fuck over his own ppl or actually lead them until just a week ago.

5. the website re-design haz been ready way before the majesta empire logo got redesigned:

http://riverini.elrevolver.com/main_cover.jpg
http://riverini.elrevolver.com/main_articles.jpg
http://riverini.elrevolver.com/main_article_detail.jpg

there were factors that hampered getting it going:
- We losing sov in late november
- ME got leadership changes.
- Getting invaded and deployed really casted doubts on me about investing time into programming effort into this if i was not sure the alliance would endure or not.
- RL shit happening
- I started dreaming bigger and made my magazine.

Basically i wanted to allow ppl to have a blog in there, post stuff and talk about their experiences in ME, yet, when ppl is frowned about posting in a forum, i can’t really imagine the reaction of someone not liking the public writings from a member in a blog under the ME domain.

So now am simply proposing a re-design of what we currently have.

It’s 4 AM monday, am responding a long post about internet spaceships politics, yes i believe i do take this game very, very seriously and i know the mess am getting into if am fortunate enough to be asked by the leadership to SERVE Majesta Empire.

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To end i want to thank you riv for being brave and coming out the first persone and announcing your candidacy

Sure man just pleased to be willing to SERVE.

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i wish you good luck and i hope that you do not take offense from some of the stuff i said. i look forward to the answers you have for my questions.

i would never take an offense from the man that suggested me to fly logistics and taught me the great joy of refusing killmails in exchange of letting other pilots return home in one piece.

German Giggles
R

Seems it is serious Shocked, so my 2 cents about point 1 (the cap program).

The Alliance put in a lot of effort in the past 1.5 years to get more ISK in the member corporations. This became doable after the Tech buff. We stopped asking the 5 mil/member fee and since a few months after a complete reaction/moon mining revamp (which took a lot of work for everyone involved) we found a good balance between Alliance income/corporation income. There are a few more infrastructural things to do but when that is done, there will prolly even more Alliance ISK going to the corporations but the exact form (more reimbursements or cash, supercap insurance etc.) has not been decided yet.

What you are proposing is exactly a 180degree turn. Getting more ISK from corporations to spend on Alliance level. So this will mean a major strategy shift. Also, if I do some calculating you will never reach 300+ new caps in a year. Furthermore, in my experience flying caps is actually more a skill problem than a ISK problem. Most corporations already have a cap program going (partially) financed by the ISK provided by the Alliance in the form of a tech moon.

It is very easy to promise something grand like 300 more caps, but pls. consider the implications before you promise something Smiley

Btw, I like your capital lottery idea and that is actually something we can start, if someone bothers to organize it.

I wish you good luck with your campaign!

o7

Excluding point 1

I think this is still better than what we've been served recently. The PM doesn't need to be in the navy, the PM needs to be the face of the Empire. It's upto the Navy lead to organise/run the wars Smiley

And especially the web redesign (with the grand plan, not the toned down version)

Aim high riverini, there's nothing wrong with intensely lofty goals that you tone down to reality. It is a far more crushing feeling to aim low and accomplish something feeling you could've done better.

Ty both of you and entaran for reading and considering my proposal.

Yes Reb this is a 180 degree turn in that issue, Kesper haz done an excelent job afaik as ally leader, why should i propose the same direction than he if he is doing an amazing job? if Kesper is not re-elected to continue, the reason is the alliance is looking for a completely different direction. and that's what am proposing.

Also i do not believe in micro-managing everything, neither dictating policies and expecting everyone to comply, i believe in the ability for ppl to set a goal (rough idea), review the feasibility of it and see if it is beneficial for the greater part of the alliance.

and i have to counter you, because rough ideas or " a Vision" do win elections:

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&p...w=1104&bih=707

Regarding the investment corps -> ally, i just remind you that the money will be returned back to the corps in subsidies/kickbacks and be spent on to the corps.

We cannot buy capitals from other alliances, much less from the jita market, same the minerals used with the subside should be bough locally and not @jita, these money needs to flow in vale for the vale ppl. Economically speaking, as long as the money spend is keep in vale by the vale residents, no mater how is it spent as long as it in a spread way, this will always be a good thing.

The grand scheme of this 15% alliance membership "capital ship ready" is to finally set ME on par with the biggest NC alliances in offensive capabilities or at least close the gap considerably.

But yes in the end as you mention it, yes it's a very long shot, and i know there is ppl already running the numbers to counter my arguments, still this is what am proposing as a major vision for ME.

I know, my rough ideas are flawed and the one that works needs a lot of polish, but i feel you guys are getting an idea of what am proposing.

Again, elections and campaign are an excellent exercise to propose radical ideas that in other alliances would never been even considered.

Yours in Giggles
R

I don't actually know if you want this thread to become a discussion thread, if not tell me and we will exchange ideas in convo Smiley

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Regarding the investment corps -> ally, i just remind you that the money will be returned back to the corps in subsidies/kickbacks and be spent on to the corps.

So take from corperations (taxes), then give it back to corperations? Why does the ally needs to be the middle-man here? I think corporations can decide what they want to do with their own ISK.

Btw, I think we have plenty of caps. The next "big" war will be fought and won by the entity that can bring the most Supercaps, especially SCars. See the South. Perhaps it would be nice if ME will focus more on producing those. Also, a supercap reimbursement would help Smiley

I don't actually know if you want this thread to become a discussion thread, if not tell me and we will exchange ideas in convo Smiley

i will fo' sho'! Still we are having a healthy debate here for other candidates to check and note.

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Regarding the investment corps -> ally, i just remind you that the money will be returned back to the corps in subsidies/kickbacks and be spent on to the corps.

So take from corperations (taxes), then give it back to corperations? Why does the ally needs to be the middle-man here? I think corporations can decide what they want to do with their own ISK.

To encourage a bigger group effort and reinforce a bandwagon behavior.

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Btw, I think we have plenty of caps. The next "big" war will be fought and won by the entity that can bring the most Supercaps, especially SCars. See the South. Perhaps it would be nice if ME will focus more on producing those. Also, a supercap reimbursement would help Smiley

Super caps are the nicest things to have but one of the heaviest to lose, i was thinking a little bit smaller and safer to be able include more members into it (also there is the SC unable to dock issue, need for alts, etc), also as i said am not proposing constructing 200 or 300 cap but counting how many we need to reach "x" amount and plan ahead for that.

Yes, you are right, more super carriers would be very good to have.

Supercap reimburstment is not possible, even a financing programm is not possible.
Reimbursting a SC costs 20imes more then a carrier ,you are right if you say that the SC is 20times stronger ,but the wallet don't cares about what is stronger it cares about being positiv.

The next step is to increase the volume of isk that is used in navy and reimburstment programms(this does not mean the payments will get higher).

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So take from corperations (taxes), then give it back to corperations? Why does the ally needs to be the middle-man here? I think corporations can decide what they want to do with their own ISK.

I hope the outpost hype is over.

No, no, this is not meme shit, this is group behavior. Group Effort and Group Motivation, "everyone is putting their grain of sand" / "we are all in this together" sort of mindset, that is what am referring to, so when someone ask what use does that 16% corp tax get, CEO's can respond well 15% goes to "X" stuff and 1% goes to the Alliance Cap Incentive Initiative, idk about u but that sounds reasonable.

What if one corp decides to leave on the 5th month, or corps get merged?

Increased Tax is the only sensitive way i can see this to work without touching current ally finances.

Concurred with LuZiffer, Super Caps are just too damn expensive and out of our reach. that's why i aimed for something less un-realistic.

Still Rebnott, am seeing that most of the buts am getting from you are more of the sort of "aggrement" rather than simply "mechanics"

Let's put an scenario where everybody agrees to this, 1% tax / 1% refinement, what other obstacles in the workflow do u see?

How are you going to enforce 1% tax?
Do you plan to put a character with a director tag in every corp to monitor the wallet?
Do you expect every corp will give you a full api so you can monitor finances minutely?
How will you manage the 1% refine tax? There is no logs of refining transactions, as it stands now any privy alt can go and empty a refining hangar of half or whatever is already in there and nobody would have any idea.

One very rough way would be Averaging this 10 times per month:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Vale_of_the_Silent#npc24

TBH, am really sure there is a serious commitment on behalf of all corp directors, in the remote scenario this "plan" go trough i would prefer to trust on the corp directors and their serious management of corp finances. Call me naive if you want, but that's the way i would prefer to do it.

Regarding the privy alt, there is no control on this now, am i right? then why think about it as a problem we would have then and not a problem we might have now? am sure the privy stuff if handled very clean and transparent at this moment.


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To be honest am change, I am not after Kesper Job, but after his vacant post in the eventuality get doesn't get elected. as i said before, kesper haz been doing a great job as Prime Minister, why elect me if the alliance wants to keep the same direction? if the alliance wishes to keep the course we currently have with the projects Kesper have in mind, they would elect Kesper, if the alliance wants a new direction, that's why i posted and the reason i encourage other players to be brave and post as candidates.

My propossal is both Bold ( <- see what i did there? Grin ) and more leaned to look for benefits mainly for the grunts (who do not vote), as am a grunt myself.

Kesper proposal is very diferent to mine, which i see as a good thing both for Kesper and for me.

Also, i haven't seen a single bad idea there, i see a very different focus than mine, which itself is a very good thing.

Riv

Your thread has made interesting reading for me tonight, and I would like to wish you all the best on the election along with all the other candidates.

I just wanted to say that, if anything comes out of this election for you, is that the PM, who ever it may be, decides to appoint you, to carry out your proposals for the redesign of the alliance website.

I think the concepts you have done and shown are amazing. I've found, when looking at most of the other alliances websites, they are mainly the same style and look kind of boring. Where the concept that you came up with does look amazing.

I teach in a local college, and there have been times where I have spent hours trolling across the internet, looking for a website that I can show my students to give them an ideas on HCI, and website design, and just not find something that meets my expectations of my search. {t would make me very proud to actually show that style of website to my students especially some of my degree students.

I agree with everyone that the face of the alliance is the alliance leader, but I also think, and this is from personal experience, before coming to ME, that many players within the game when they first here about alliance, and want to find out more the first place they go to is there website.

Our current site does it job well and meets our needs, but the potential that it could do for acting as a tool for presenting the alliance, is not fully tapped.

Plus I think that most people, if not all in the alliance, would agree with me on saying that they would be......something...... Can not think of the right word to describe it lol. So I'll let you fill in the blank.

So once again best of look to you and all the other candidates in the election.

Has this become a two horse race? Smiley

Riverini, could you please outline your proposed cabinet should you be elected?

Quote from: [MTW] Entaran on September 14, 2010, 07:06:21 AM
Has this become a two horse race? Smiley

Riverini, could you please outline your proposed cabinet should you be elected?

Well, the current cabinet is a winning combination, with some "True Believers" mixed with part of the Majesta "Honorable Old Guard" which gives it a very versatile flavor specially in the problem solving area.

I would ofc ask the current Cabinet if they would like to keep serving Majesta as they have been doing it for this period and i would ofc study what parts of the whole ME clockwork need some oil - so to speak - and if needed create new post positions to optimize the current performance of the alliance, specially in the industry sector.


Now, i would like to involve more the corps of ME that haz already shown their commitment with ME adn give them an opportunity to have a more active involvement in day to day ME ally operations. We all know which of these new corps am talking about and how proud we feel of having them among us, so I would absolutely take them in consideration and ensure an involvement on their part on this area of ME
R

[Aurora148]

internet spaceship politiks is serious business.

[Mr Coloredshirt]

this is now a riverinidot thread

[Veno]

this is now a riverinidot thread

Oh man, this feels so good suddenly, you are obviously very vibrant and progressive internet spaceships community!

[Azshen]

I'll have you know..that first off.. i approve of this

We need WIDOT threads , CAOD memes, youtube videos, images memes and so, we need ppl to hear about Majesta, have a laugh and keep us in their mindset, this in the long run will have moar positive repercussion than the negative repercussions some of the most conservative alliance members might argue about.

Every time i see a This is a WIDOT thread i get like "haha these guys fucking rules", and i know am not the only one. but in the end, if WIDOT failscales (again) am pretty sure most of the ppl who enjoyed their WIDOT antics (besides pew pew) will join them again.

And also, This is a WIdot thread, all imposters will be dotted to death. dot.

[Habitual Line Stepper]

Did anyone else cringe at "we need memes"? Majesta Empire's meme is being complete assholes and taking shit entirely too seriously.

[Giacomo Carissimi]

:words:

and like most NC porn threads, their spelling/grammar is atrocious.

[RansomList]

Have i got a screw lose or is Giacomo = Vio

[Murr]

Giacomo is giacomo

[Nicky D]

Most of you don't know, but little by little am taking more relevance on the information front of EVE online, and yes eventually i will take over and this sort of stuff really benefit majesta in projecting the right image we all want.

i know exactly what is going on in these forums u are talking about , and you seem to be totaly dreaming and delusional. infact wtf are you talking about ? i can spend all day copy pasting posts from all kinds of forums that u are active in where loads of people complain about your shit posting and actualy ask you to stop it

okay this has to be my favorite part hahahaha

[riverini [banned]]

okay this has to be my favorite part hahahaha

Funny since this very person was (chivalrously) congratulating me later on that same week for the EVE News 24 project. i have to say, he is an amazing person and i would never take an offense from him. -__0

BTW, since this thread nao seems to revolve about me and not the constitutional apparatus which makes me very proud, i'll say you guys need to dig deeper, i poasted my sexual escapades somewhere in one thread, which although fictitious, made great family entertainment, and without the slightest embellishment one of my best threads ^__^.

To the WiDot guy, true, WiDot treads are often imitated never duplicated, don't settle for inferior product.

To the OP, you should put the images with the img-brackets, linked like that the thread loses all it's impact. 0__o

To the other guys, German Giggles will always be... well, German Giggles.

R

[Pripyat]

Except not being german.

[Wusti]

Faux German?

[Divus]

there's a hitler joke in here somewhere

[snsmasta]

so a tl;dr....plz?

[Hratli Smirks]

Have i got a screw lose or is Giacomo = Vio

Giacomo is a Sigma in exile (ElitistOps)

[Hratli Smirks]

Incidentally Riverini, CONDI purportedly (I say purportedly because the director who runs it has been experimenting with pharmacology lately and has no idea where the money went for the next lotto) runs a no-profit lottery aimed at putting people in capitals but the prizes are generally capital skillbooks of the player's choice rather than the caps themselves (since the books themselves amount to somewhere over half a billion themselves.) That might mesh better with your New Cap Pilots initiative than an actual capital lottery.

[riverini [banned]]

so a tl;dr....plz?

Viper is addicted to the German Giggles, somebody better call the Betty Ford Clinic

Incidentally Riverini, CONDI purportedly (I say purportedly because the director who runs it has been experimenting with pharmacology lately and has no idea where the money went for the next lotto) runs a no-profit lottery aimed at putting people in capitals but the prizes are generally capital skillbooks of the player's choice rather than the caps themselves (since the books themselves amount to somewhere over half a billion themselves.) That might mesh better with your New Cap Pilots initiative than an actual capital lottery.

TBH, i was betting at CCP nerfing the overpowered SuperCaps (CCP nerfin something good!? the nerves!) and giving a boost to capitals, something i believe is still doable from CCP side, also i was trying to bet on a boost to "sov defense" with the caps (shield rep, crap, etc). the whole time span form this was 2 periods (i would laid foundations and the next PM was going to finish the project).

On my plan, and is not stated there, the players would had to shell their cash for the skills, yet i like the CONDI idea.

[Hratli Smirks]

Well the basic idea is the skills are a one-time investment and then the player would be motivated to fly a capital/work towards his very own ratting carrier etc. while a straight-up cap-ship lotto would be something that would benefit existing capital pilots more than prospective pilots. I mean it doesn't hurt a guy whose been flying dreads since 2007 or w/e to have an extra lottery-won capital in his hangar because "hey free ship" but signing up to a skillbook lottery wouldn't do anything for him because he already has those skills.


(take supercapitals out of the game)

[riverini [banned]]

Indeed, getting a skillbook gets to to train for one or sell it (hopefully to an ally mate) to get more numbers. While i haven't made the math, i had the idea that manufacturers could also benefit from the market resulting in insurance payment used to build moar caps.

The main idea i wanted to push forward during my tentative "Reign of Terror" was giving Majesta an public strong identity their members would feel proud off, which i still believe every alliance needs.

[Aeon221]

I filibuster this thread!

Since I'm casually interested in space democracy and don't have access to all the forums of EVE, mind describing the ME constitutional process in short form?

[Pripyat]

Clusterfuck.

[Arrador]

Clusterfuck.

Confirm.

[Aeon221]

Well, duh. Still be interesting from an anthropophagic perspective.

[Malcanis]

I filibuster this thread!

Since I'm casually interested in space democracy and don't have access to all the forums of EVE, mind describing the ME constitutional process in short form?

I seem to recall reading a description of it in a thread on this very forum. They have super-serious space-politician titles and everything.

[riverini [banned]]

I seem to recall reading a description of it in a thread on this very forum. They have super-serious space-politician titles and everything.

internets spaceboats...

[Aeon221]

I seem to recall reading a description of it in a thread on this very forum. They have super-serious space-politician titles and everything.

Googling? On my internets? I think not!

[Lake]

Majesta Empire takes this game too seriously {Forum Dump}

[Aokisensei]

I want to run for ME prime minister.

Nevermind that I'm not a member of ME, not currently subscribed to Eve, and would make a terrible leader (first task as premier: get ME forcibly kicked out of NC over moon disputes and general douchebaggery), but space politics sounds vaguely fun. Probably more fun than actually playing the game >.>

On another note, is their prime minister directly elected? Isn't that not how most parliamentary systems work (like the PM is elected by the parliament?) How exactly *does* ME's system work?

[Kesper North]

The PM is elected by the council of CEOs, which is basically our parliament. The CEOs also have the power to call a vote of no confidence on the PM or any of his ministers.

Riverini is supposed to interview me on E24 one of these days about how and why I set up Majesta's system the way I did.

[Berious]

Do you have Prime Ministers Questions where the membership ask stuff like "I put it to my honourable friend the Prime Minister that he is a FAT VIRGIN with NO LIFE who has probably never even kissed a girl!" then they all wave their order papers and go "hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"?

Because that would own.

[RansomList]

PMQ's in the UK are awesome, its like a mix between a smoky gents club and a playground argument about how timmy is a loser

[Aokisensei]

PMQs is funny half the time, I wish we had that shit with our president and congress here.

[Aeon221]

Seriously, my favorite CSPAN moments are when they turn on the British Parliament. I like how everyone gets called on their bullshit immediately, unlike with the US Senate where bloviation is extreme and people take turns.

Plus there's a total lack of HURRing in the Senate.

[RansomList]

20 minutes in.

Its like that all the time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006nldz

then 29 minutes in, our PM suggests deflects an awkward Q by ridiculing the questioner

You wont catch Hussein Obama retorting to someone that their question is invalid because they should have come dressed as a woman

[Arrador]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006nldz

Not Available in my Area. Le Fuck?

[Vinata]

Seriously, my favorite CSPAN moments are when they turn on the British Parliament. I like how everyone gets called on their bullshit immediately, unlike with the US Senate where bloviation is extreme and people take turns.

Plus there's a total lack of HURRing in the Senate.

It wouldn't work in the US - our public officials are too retarded to come up with anything decent.

[RansomList]

Not Available in my Area. Le Fuck?

H aha ha, take that for blocking American media on the web for those not in the US.

But seriously, that stuff sucks.

Have some Brown Vs Cameron vintage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUy2...eature=related

Our ex PM so angry he is shaking and unable to articulate himself. In another age he would be swinging a Claymore at someones head at this point.

[Aeon221]

Actually, I gotta disagree on that front. If you watch the Senate on CSPAN, the Senators are vicious, intelligent and extremely knowledgeable of the procedural tactics necessary to make things happen the way they want. They have some pretty brutal fights on the floor. Big issue is them being completely incapable of coming to any sort of agreement.

[riverini [banned]]

Actually, I gotta disagree on that front. If you watch the Senate on CSPAN, the Senators are vicious, intelligent and extremely knowledgeable of the procedural tactics necessary to make things happen the way they want. They have some pretty brutal fights on the floor. Big issue is them being completely incapable of coming to any sort of agreement.

I actually watched one c-span prank live, quite a loller-coaster.

Host: Morning.
Caller: Am I in the air? ...FUCK!!!!

[Aeon221]

Oh man I love the CSPAN call ins. Every loonie on the planet calls in and says the weirdest things. The pranksters are funny, but the really great ones are the wingnuts on either side of the aisle who go on and on about how America is being destroyed by their boogie man of preference. Seriously, I'm shocked more people don't watch CSPAN occasionally, it's some of the funniest stuff on tv.

[RansomList]

I'm endeared to Howard Stern for promoting people prank calling Cspan live

[Malaclypse]

I want to run for ME prime minister.

Nevermind that I'm not a member of ME, not currently subscribed to Eve, and would make a terrible leader (first task as premier: get ME forcibly kicked out of NC over moon disputes and general douchebaggery), but space politics sounds vaguely fun. Probably more fun than actually playing the game >.>

Running for the PM position is the wrong idea then as you'll be constantly under fire. It's way more fun being a influential second to a corp CEO or even the PM, as it gives you all the knowledge, means, and freedom without [same level of perceived] responsibility.

[Pripyat]

Running for the PM position is the wrong idea then as you'll be constantly under fire. It's way more fun being a influential second to a corp CEO or even the PM, as it gives you all the knowledge, means, and freedom without [same level of perceived] responsibility.

[riverini [banned]]

i cannot state how appropriate this picture is to the previous comment!!!!!!

[Malaclypse]

That was absolute win, Prip. I'd go as far as to call that the best and most fitting image macro on kugu™ 2010.
Watch carefully, you might learn something about appropriate and well-placed image macros, riv.

[riverini [banned]]

That was absolute win, Prip. I'd go as far as to call that the best and most fitting image macro on kugu™ 2010.
Watch carefully, you might learn something about appropriate and well-placed image macros, riv.

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

I hate our governmental structure and 90% of the people in it.