they are dead, jim
Apparently PL has almost an entire sub-forum dedicated to all the Atlas porn they are getting.
Caring is sharing.
Make it public after this shit's done(the atlas porn bits). Because of how hilarious this has been it is your duty.
The really sad thing is, just a few, maybe even one, triage carriers sacrificed would probably have saved him, nevermind the rest of the 50 odd Atlas dudes in system.
The guy that lost the Nyx was back the next day in a Scorpion, defending the cyno jammer from us, while Atlas lost 5 carriers of the 10 that were warped in to protect the jammer. He died again, but if i were him I'd be wondering why Atlas leadership cannot show the same guts as he did.
someone that retarded doesnt deserve saving
Atlas members, read his post well :lol:
In this case for the price of a few carriers/support for a guy that although, as you rightly said, was retarded, is obviously willing to put billions on the line for the alliance, and despite losing it all turn up the next day in a Scorp ready to fight, you could saved him without breaking a sweat, without even an OFFICIAL ATLAS fc.
Never forget Papa Pod, who jumped his titan into 600 hostiles instead of doing bridge during delve2.
Never forget the 4 PL heros who jumped their titans in to save him 5 seconds later with no backup.
Never forgot noobjuice in G-G7 after a hot Canadian night out with a set of sixes.
Retards are also known as bait.
official atlas response to you fgts.
I still love you though
Yes we all know achmetha is awesome.
In stress situations, people start looking for someone to blame. To put lack of xīes and fail leadership on "retards" who die in scīs is usual the case, even though the truth might besomewehre in the middle.
to me happened multiple times that i warped supercaps/caps/whole fleets due to dual or triple boxing, or due to someone having on phone, etc. Was i a retard? in some eyes yes, but even if i have seen so much fail (remember working with bad pvp groups or no pvp groups at all and trying to make them pvp is like breathing pure oxygen, it makes you go in flames) you canīt let this happen and let your emotions roll over. You explain it to him, explain it to others and say that as a group we commit to each other, as long you are part of group, we gona help you out as much we can. If we think, you are not suited for us, you will leave and than its your business. Till than, everyone online should help you out, just so that when he gets in trouble, he gets the same treatment.
Anyone who goes out and starts laughing at him and making and idiot out of him, should be kicked in nutts, as he kills morale of hundreds people.
Czech its also a two-edged sword: you tolerate retards and it can have exactly the same negative impacts on the people you REALLY need in fleets as well - but admittedly not to the same extent.
Hehe you know what I was talking about Czech. You leave too many retards about and the decent PvPers get the shits and fuck off or de-stabilise the joint. It was me I would've tried to save his arse and THEN kick him unless i desparately needed his supercap and thought thee was some vague possibility of redemption for him.
Accidentally warping somewhere, clicking jump instead of bridge, ect, are split second mistakes which everyone makes at some degree, and while it may make you briefly stupid doesn't make you retarded in general. However being active and being told repeatedly that hostiles are coming well before actually arriving, being active and having multiple alliance mails saying not to do exactly what your currently doing is NOT a split second lapse of judgment, it's a deliberate and thought out act of retardation. Yes, I'm sure sacrificing a couple carriers and support could have saved him, but for how long? If not today, then it's just another day. The carriers and support could be better used fighting another fight, such as to kill a s.cruiser 200km off a pos. ~_~
The real key here is a little respect. So the guy did something retarded, everybody knows it, but calling him a retard and allowing that kind of disrespect to go on in your group will erode its integrity as Czech is saying. But as Wusti points out, you can't let idiots go too far. You got to call them out when they blow it.
This is where you bring in the kind of people who know how to politely and diplomatically tell someone that what they did was completely retarded, without using the word retard. Like, "Sorry you lost your Nyx. Didn't you get the memo about AFKing at JB POS's? That was for your own good you know. No? Really? That's too bad! Better luck next time! Although as you know, money has been tight and we can't qualify you to fly Alliance SCs......"
Not that it matters as far as Atlas is concerned though, considering present situation.
Actually it's worked pretty well for goons, someone does something retarded, call them retarded.
Wasn't he online so he could load everything he owned in his mothership and cyno out forever?
coming from a WI. guy. i cant stop laughing. oh shit lol hahahahaha.
IMO the guy is retarded if he died to huge blob with the intel that was provided the fact that the 6 logis scared you all and the rather small size of the fleet that killed him is just pathetic and tbh in a time of war not having an active fleet in staging system and scouts feeding you intel from next systems over to protect this defense gang/fleet from getting out blobbed just tells me you all have no will to undock or even fight!
Then to laugh at the guy and call him a retard imo if i was a leader i would boot everyone in that station with no warning and gank them on the way out. its one thing to have a huge fleet and keeping assets safe but to loose a SC to what PL had you guys are truly pathetic and need to head back to Jita ASAP!
Oh but ya it was your current leader that gave the stand down order lol...
So many experts, where were they before :O
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I think I came off as a little more harsh then I meant. I don't think that you should really label someone as an idiot if they lose one expensive ship etc. Just coming from a recruitment pov, you always try to filter out people who don't fully grasp the 'common sense' side of the game.
It's the old the old adage of "you can't teach common sense".
If we left faggots behind we would have no fleet.
Noone gets left behind.
Well in PL if someone is being repeatadly retarded then we kill him ourselves rather giving the hostiles the satisfaction
Like that time I killed Narciss when he logged with aggro