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    Eventful day in little providence:
    Daisho nukes afk USHRA carrier in KBP7
    USHRA responds with dreads and battleship fleet, reinforces daisho pos in kbp7 (and loses a dread to the titan sitting inside)
    Fight is apparently on.


    Oh yeah and Reaper Industries were there in SCars and titans and stuff trying to kill the daisho titan.

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    [21:57:46] Butter Dog > which forum should i put this on?
    [21:57:49] Butter Dog > Ketch Kan > DAISHO WILL BE REMOVING DK FROM KBP AND the system will go to somone who is willing to leave it open for pew pew as an entry system


    There, now you don't have to post, just keep splurging in KBP local. It's sort of sad but still p lol.

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    Sit back, relax, and allow me to tell you a true story....

    When UK lost sov, DAI decided they wanted to take KBP from UK, opportunistically. A meeting was held, and none of the other Providence alliances agreed they had any claim to KBP. Eventually they reluctantly conceded. DAI were given the space by AAA/UK, so it seems a little... ungrateful... to try to take advantage of our disbanding. However, they anchored a tower in KBP, and put an offline TCU on it. It was agreed they could have the tower in system as a staging post in the event they helped defend the system.

    UK/DK had a meeting with DAI, and one of their key complaints was that we didn't really live in KBP, and they felt the system wasnt secure enough. We told them we would be moving to KBP when our logistics was complete (moving completely out of Catch) and would secure the system.... As promised, a few days ago we finally moved into KBP.

    Since then the system has been under total lockdown by DK for ~90% of the time. But suddenly DAI started crying. We werent keeping it "free and open", which was a curious complaint given that their previous complain was that we didn't secure the system.

    Today they thought it would be funny to use the tower we permitted them to keep in system to stage a titan in, and one-shot a carrier who had assigned fighters from a POS. We didn't think this was very sportsmanlike, so we called on op and reinforced their tower.

    DAI then got ~mad~ and stated they would remove us from KBP. To which I can only say: good luck, you'll need it

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    hahaha... and the knives come out... or go into.... each others backs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt View Post
    Eventful day in little providence:
    Daisho nukes afk USHRA carrier in KBP7
    USHRA responds with dreads and battleship fleet, reinforces daisho pos in kbp7 (and loses a dread to the titan sitting inside)
    Fight is apparently on.


    Oh yeah and Reaper Industries were there in SCars and titans and stuff trying to kill the daisho titan.

    Wholly fukin shit Batman! Pull over your god damned internet spaceship and show me your NIP Papers now!

    I thought the NIP was to ensure no SOV and POS warefare at all.

    UK just broke the NIP by attacking towers.

    P.S. Welcome to Providence UK, it is what you signed up for, enjoy being livestock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt View Post
    [21:57:46] Butter Dog > which forum should i put this on?
    [21:57:49] Butter Dog > Ketch Kan > DAISHO WILL BE REMOVING DK FROM KBP AND the system will go to somone who is willing to leave it open for pew pew as an entry system


    There, now you don't have to post, just keep splurging in KBP local. It's sort of sad but still p lol.
    Why will Dashio being removing them? Cant UK do it on their own? Or are Dashio UK pets, and answer to their UK masters?

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    DK are UK you derp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt View Post
    DK are UK you derp.
    Oh the new and still shitty UK, sorry misunderstood, was thinking another failure had been given space.

    Well I am sure DK and CO2 can form Circle of Khan and do what is needed like maybe get their ass kicked by Dashio.

    Let me get the popcorn, this is looking to be a good weekend after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post

    Today they thought it would be funny to use the tower we permitted them to keep in system to stage a titan in, and one-shot a carrier who had assigned fighters from a POS. We didn't think this was very sportsmanlike, so we called on op and reinforced their tower.

    DAI then got ~mad~ and stated they would remove us from KBP. To which I can only say: good luck, you'll need it
    So the NIP isnt what it seemed to be........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    Today they thought it would be funny to use the tower we permitted them to keep in system to stage a titan in, and one-shot a carrier who had assigned fighters from a POS. We didn't think this was very sportsmanlike, so we called on op and reinforced their tower.

    DAI then got ~mad~ and stated they would remove us from KBP. To which I can only say: good luck, you'll need it
    I love how you claim that UK/DK/W/e the fuck it will be next that yall alliance does everything on your own then move in C02/ALF who each have more Scaps than the rest of Provi combined to help remove alliances who try to 1v1 yall =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeyouseemeseeyou View Post
    I love how you claim that UK/DK/W/e the fuck it will be next that yall alliance does everything on your own then move in ALF who have more than Scaps than the entirety of Provi combined to help remove alliances who try to 1v1 yall =)
    +1 rep for you to quote the same text at the same time
    -1 to both of us as its a Butter Dog text

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReallyMatter View Post
    Wholly fukin shit Batman! Pull over your god damned internet spaceship and show me your NIP Papers now!

    I thought the NIP was to ensure no SOV and POS warefare at all.

    UK just broke the NIP by attacking towers.

    P.S. Welcome to Providence UK, it is what you signed up for, enjoy being livestock.
    the NIP doesnt cover towers other people anchor in your systems, duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    the NIP doesnt cover towers other people anchor in your systems, duh
    You gave them permission, they are your NIP Partners in Blueage, they shot up one of your spaceships and you all get a case of the ass and throw the rules out and make them suit you basically, why anyone can have the gumption to go and want to live down there within that mess of a situation is beyond me.

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    you really are quite stupid - we said they could have the tower in there if they didn't stage from it to things like a drive-by, since they claimed they only wanted it there in the event they would assist against an assault on KBP... obviously in hindsight that was bullshit, but it was taken at face value and they were given the benefit of the doubt at the time

    clearly we're not going to allow an entity who has openly stated they want to take the system, to have a staging POS in there going forward...

    NIP doenst mean you go around anchoring towers in other peoples space to annoy them, and expect to be left alone

    NIP stands for 'Non Invasion Pact' - killing towers in your own space is clearly not 'invading' anyone else.

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    so just in theory, if there was a fight in prov of "D'K Coalition vs. CVA" and DAI ( out of fun and spite ) where to DDD a few D'K Carriers would they be in violation of the NIP?

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    Simple DK attacked our POS with bombing runs and fighters, so we killed their carrier afk (2 hours) outside the pos. Butter emo's like normal, try's to setup Daisho super caps for a hot drop (fails), since we knew. Bitter emo's gets bitter more, spreads more lies in DK leadership that the pos was hit after the carrier was dd, but actually Daisho pos was hit 3 hours before. Got DK leadership to agree to hit our pos, we dd their dread while they bubbled our titan sitting in our pos. DK leadership logs on and goes wtf butters...

    Butters emo's more and starts to camp our Daisho E-Y system in a helios. Butter is still emoing....

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544459
    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544755

    Report: Starbase in KBP7-G is under attack
    From: DED
    Sent: 2010.08.13 12:11

    Solar System: KBP7-G
    Moon: KBP7-G V - Moon 1

    Attacked object: Ion Field Projection Battery
    Current Shield Level: 92%
    Current Armor Integrity: 100%
    Current Hull Integrity: 100%
    Aggressing Pilot: Myles hye
    Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Universal Army
    Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: Damu'Khonde

    Facts are Facts

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    Then UK + pets kill each other and CVA gloriously takes back Providence. All planned at the BBQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlost View Post
    Simple DK attacked our POS with bombing runs and fighters, so we killed their carrier afk (2 hours) outside the pos. Butter emo's like normal, try's to setup Daisho super caps for a hot drop (fails), since we knew. Bitter emo's gets bitter more, spreads more lies in DK leadership that the pos was hit after the carrier was dd, but actually Daisho pos was hit 3 hours before. Got DK leadership to agree to hit our pos, we dd their dread while they bubbled our titan sitting in our pos. DK leadership logs on and goes wtf butters...

    Butters emo's more and starts to camp our Daisho E-Y system in a helios. Butter is still emoing....

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544459
    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544755

    Report: Starbase in KBP7-G is under attack
    From: DED
    Sent: 2010.08.13 12:11

    Solar System: KBP7-G
    Moon: KBP7-G V - Moon 1

    Attacked object: Ion Field Projection Battery
    Current Shield Level: 92%
    Current Armor Integrity: 100%
    Current Hull Integrity: 100%
    Aggressing Pilot: Myles hye
    Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Universal Army
    Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: Damu'Khonde

    Facts are Facts
    When one throws out real facts with concrete proof... bitter dog retreats into his cave.

    Good post o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlost View Post
    Simple DK attacked our POS with bombing runs and fighters, so we killed their carrier afk (2 hours) outside the pos. Butter emo's like normal, try's to setup Daisho super caps for a hot drop (fails), since we knew. Bitter emo's gets bitter more, spreads more lies in DK leadership that the pos was hit after the carrier was dd, but actually Daisho pos was hit 3 hours before. Got DK leadership to agree to hit our pos, we dd their dread while they bubbled our titan sitting in our pos. DK leadership logs on and goes wtf butters...

    Butters emo's more and starts to camp our Daisho E-Y system in a helios. Butter is still emoing....

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544459
    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544755

    Report: Starbase in KBP7-G is under attack
    From: DED
    Sent: 2010.08.13 12:11

    Solar System: KBP7-G
    Moon: KBP7-G V - Moon 1

    Attacked object: Ion Field Projection Battery
    Current Shield Level: 92%
    Current Armor Integrity: 100%
    Current Hull Integrity: 100%
    Aggressing Pilot: Myles hye
    Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Universal Army
    Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: Damu'Khonde

    Facts are Facts
    Jesus fucking christ I would like to see BitterDick spin his way out of that.

    Kick him the fuck out DK. All he does is make people hate you (anyone he's associated with really) and shit poast on forums about how he's so leet he doesn't even play anymore.

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    DK leadership and the whole membership base support the decision to reinforce the POS, and still do support it, so Xlost is just talking shit. Jessie and Forlorn, who are the joint execs, are perfectly happy it was reinforced and feel it was an appropriate response.

    The guy who 'attacked' their tower was a rouge pilot, in a bomber. He didn't cause any harm to the tower (didn't even incap a single mod). At the time we decided to reinforce the tower, I didn't even know about it, and frankly it's a non-issue -- DAI are desperately looking for a causus belli, but that is, by any measure, an extremely weak one.

    Daisho are full of impotent rage at the moment. KBP is controlled by DK the vast majority of the time, and they can do absolutely nothing about it, which makes them ~mad~

    At the end of the day, KBP is a DK system. DAI were allowed docking rights and a safe tower, but after their faggotry of titan drive-by's and bombing runs at the station entrance, both rights have been revoked. We didn't start it. DAI have been trying to claim KBP for themselves for a long time. That said, they can do nothing about it, because DK is a much stronger alliance and can control the system across the vast majority of timezones with ease - reducing them to drive-bys and bombers... ~elite pvp~

    The strategic index's on our systems are still ticking. I'm sure if we planted a tower in B-W, drive-by'd their caps, and camped their station with bombers, they would rightfully respond by trying to remove the tower. In a few weeks the system will be jammed anyway, but between now and then, we intend to have some fun.

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    Everyone deserves a right to know all the correct facts.

    'Harmless' rouge pilot eh?
    How about this ?

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544244

    Facts are facts

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    I sincerely wish you morons would take the drama llama in game in a few private convos or on comms to slaughter it rather than discussing it on forums and giving everyone and his mother the opportunity to troll you in a turdhouse thread. I'd think you would want to duck a punch or two, not lean into every last one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    you really are quite stupid - we said they could have the tower in there if they didn't stage from it to things like a drive-by, since they claimed they only wanted it there in the event they would assist against an assault on KBP... obviously in hindsight that was bullshit, but it was taken at face value and they were given the benefit of the doubt at the time

    clearly we're not going to allow an entity who has openly stated they want to take the system, to have a staging POS in there going forward...

    NIP doenst mean you go around anchoring towers in other peoples space to annoy them, and expect to be left alone

    NIP stands for 'Non Invasion Pact' - killing towers in your own space is clearly not 'invading' anyone else.


    It was agreed they could have the tower in system as a staging post in the event they helped defend the system.

    What a fukin minute here stop the press, I am the stupid one when just a few posts ago you said they could have a tower there to stage from and now your changing your statement and saying they couldnt. Which is it? How much lies and back peddling you going to do?

    You gave them the right to stage out of KBP, they saw an opportunity to kill one of your ships, and took it, you got reset or reset everyone unitl CVA & Co drop a SBU somewhere to farm you people, then it is were blue again guys come one.

    What is the fukin difference, your just butthurt you got one of your carriers BBQ'd, and now your going to break the NIP and the ok for the tower because they ganked you.

    Welcome to Providence UK, enjoy being livestock, it works both ways you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlost View Post
    Simple DK attacked our POS with bombing runs and fighters, so we killed their carrier afk (2 hours) outside the pos. Butter emo's like normal, try's to setup Daisho super caps for a hot drop (fails), since we knew. Bitter emo's gets bitter more, spreads more lies in DK leadership that the pos was hit after the carrier was dd, but actually Daisho pos was hit 3 hours before. Got DK leadership to agree to hit our pos, we dd their dread while they bubbled our titan sitting in our pos. DK leadership logs on and goes wtf butters...

    Butters emo's more and starts to camp our Daisho E-Y system in a helios. Butter is still emoing....

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544459
    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544755

    Report: Starbase in KBP7-G is under attack
    From: DED
    Sent: 2010.08.13 12:11

    Solar System: KBP7-G
    Moon: KBP7-G V - Moon 1

    Attacked object: Ion Field Projection Battery
    Current Shield Level: 92%
    Current Armor Integrity: 100%
    Current Hull Integrity: 100%
    Aggressing Pilot: Myles hye
    Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Universal Army
    Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: Damu'Khonde

    Facts are Facts
    I agree Facts is Fact.

    +1

    Bitter getting more emo and bitter, priceless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    DK leadership and the whole membership base support the decision to reinforce the POS, and still do support it, so Xlost is just talking shit. Jessie and Forlorn, who are the joint execs, are perfectly happy it was reinforced and feel it was an appropriate response.

    The guy who 'attacked' their tower was a rouge pilot, in a bomber. He didn't cause any harm to the tower (didn't even incap a single mod). At the time we decided to reinforce the tower, I didn't even know about it, and frankly it's a non-issue -- DAI are desperately looking for a causus belli, but that is, by any measure, an extremely weak one.

    Daisho are full of impotent rage at the moment. KBP is controlled by DK the vast majority of the time, and they can do absolutely nothing about it, which makes them ~mad~

    At the end of the day, KBP is a DK system. DAI were allowed docking rights and a safe tower, but after their faggotry of titan drive-by's and bombing runs at the station entrance, both rights have been revoked. We didn't start it. DAI have been trying to claim KBP for themselves for a long time. That said, they can do nothing about it, because DK is a much stronger alliance and can control the system across the vast majority of timezones with ease - reducing them to drive-bys and bombers... ~elite pvp~

    The strategic index's on our systems are still ticking. I'm sure if we planted a tower in B-W, drive-by'd their caps, and camped their station with bombers, they would rightfully respond by trying to remove the tower. In a few weeks the system will be jammed anyway, but between now and then, we intend to have some fun.

    Welcome to the Bitter Spin Zone, where we are become all powerful and will threaten to form Circle of Khan and evict you if you dont toe the line and obey your masters UK/DK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclesam88 View Post
    Everyone deserves a right to know all the correct facts.

    'Harmless' rouge pilot eh?
    How about this ?

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544244

    Facts are facts

    So UK/DK cant control their pilots? This is what it seems to me.

    Either that or the fact that the Provi Squatters are getting exactly what they signed up for, welcome to Providence and enjoy being Livestock!

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    so this all means nothing since -a- will just step in like a mother looking after squabbling kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deniera View Post
    so this all means nothing since -a- will just step in like a mother looking after squabbling kids.
    Somewhere in an earlier thread it was said that Triple Shit didnt care about Providence anymore, Uncle Manny does not lead them now so his vision is irrelevant. They dont have Triple Shit to back them up, UK are not even have blue standings anymore with them according to Bitter bitch.

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    To clarify this thread...

    AAA allowed DAI to put a tower in KBP in the event KBP was left undefended and DAI would then be allowed to online a TCU to keep it protected. This was passed down by the overseers AAA as an acceptable course of action.

    Something happened (please fill in this blank) that upset DK.

    From an ousider, it seems that DAI may have been told by DK to remove the tower? What's this part of the story... what provoked DK to start attacking the tower? (EDIT I don't buy the rogue pilot thing. There must have been discussions about this guy hitting the tower in Alliance or something. Diplos and batphones I'm sure were ringing as soon as this happened. The rogue pilot thing doesn't seem to fit into the story.

    To me, I'm imagining that DK said they'd keep KBP and DAI wanted it... words were exchanged and DK then took it upon themselves to attack. BD, feel free to spin..er..correct this part.

    So, then DAI retailated against their tower being attacked and hit a carrier in system. This then provoked Butters to (as he has done in this thread)
    ... lie about who agressed first to DK higher ups. These, misinformed leaders then made the call to RF the tower...

    Am I on target here or am I confused?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclesam88 View Post
    Everyone deserves a right to know all the correct facts.

    'Harmless' rouge pilot eh?
    How about this ?

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544244

    Facts are facts
    lol...

    one bomber pilot pops a lab on a pos you let go offline... wow

    yes, this is clearly an alliance-leadership sanctioned invasion of your space, I hope you're packing and ready to move to jita

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propz View Post
    To clarify this thread...

    AAA allowed DAI to put a tower in KBP in the event KBP was left undefended and DAI would then be allowed to online a TCU to keep it protected. This was passed down by the overseers AAA as an acceptable course of action.

    Something happened (please fill in this blank) that upset DK.

    From an ousider, it seems that DAI may have been told by DK to remove the tower? What's this part of the story... what provoked DK to start attacking the tower? (EDIT I don't buy the rogue pilot thing. There must have been discussions about this guy hitting the tower in Alliance or something. Diplos and batphones I'm sure were ringing as soon as this happened. The rogue pilot thing doesn't seem to fit into the story.

    To me, I'm imagining that DK said they'd keep KBP and DAI wanted it... words were exchanged and DK then took it upon themselves to attack. BD, feel free to spin..er..correct this part.

    So, then DAI retailated against their tower being attacked and hit a carrier in system. This then provoked Butters to (as he has done in this thread) ... lie about who agressed first to DK higher ups. These, misinformed leaders then made the call to RF the tower...

    Am I on target here or am I confused?


    My interpretation would be UK got Hargothed, Dai want to secure their entrance to 0.0, they dont know if UK will fail, or make it, they proceed to do what they need to do to protect themselves, Bitter gets more Bitter and demand Dai cant have his precious his KBP.

    The dust settles, UK/DK want their precious their KBP all back to themselves now, Dai say wait we want a place to stage from, you guys are shit and dont protect KBP we need to secure our space entrance.

    Bitter gets Bitter moar and says fuk u, we are moving into KBP and will secure it our dam selves, Dai is unimpressed, and make arrangements to keep the tower.

    UK/DK rather Bitter Bitch, gets moar Bitter and see the tower in his precious a taunt on UK/DK ability to do anything relevant that is necessary to the Dai security, and sets out to atack the pos to provoke them in taking it down.

    Dai see an opportunity to strike back and DD a UK/DK Carrier lukz ensure on the Dai side, Bitter Faggotry ensues on the DK/UK side, DK/UK break the NIP and attack the tower they earlier agreed they could have showing everyone that they cannot be held trusted with their word.

    UK/DK Bitter Bitch comes to forums proclaiming it powerhouse and authority and state they will drive the evil invading force of Dai out of KBP.

    That is my take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propz View Post
    To clarify this thread...

    AAA allowed DAI to put a tower in KBP in the event KBP was left undefended and DAI would then be allowed to online a TCU to keep it protected. This was passed down by the overseers AAA as an acceptable course of action.

    Something happened (please fill in this blank) that upset DK.

    From an ousider, it seems that DAI may have been told by DK to remove the tower? What's this part of the story... what provoked DK to start attacking the tower? (EDIT I don't buy the rogue pilot thing. There must have been discussions about this guy hitting the tower in Alliance or something. Diplos and batphones I'm sure were ringing as soon as this happened. The rogue pilot thing doesn't seem to fit into the story.

    To me, I'm imagining that DK said they'd keep KBP and DAI wanted it... words were exchanged and DK then took it upon themselves to attack. BD, feel free to spin..er..correct this part.

    So, then DAI retailated against their tower being attacked and hit a carrier in system. This then provoked Butters to (as he has done in this thread) ... lie about who agressed first to DK higher ups. These, misinformed leaders then made the call to RF the tower...

    Am I on target here or am I confused?
    AAA have nothing to do with it. DK agreed Dai could keep their POS in KBP under certain conditions, one of which was they wouldn't stage from it or camp the station undock.

    When they did the titan drive-by on an AFK carrier, it was also on a day they decided to do bombing runs on the station undock. Given they broke the agreement, our patience with them ran out, and we reinforced their tower. Arguing that one guy in a bomber = us starting the aggression is ridiculous, and everyone knows it.

    KBP is DK's system, not DAI's, and if we don't want them to have a staging tower because a) they publically stated they want to take KBP from us and b) general faggotry, then only an extremely niaive individual would think we weren't acting in a sensible and rational manner

    DAI are the ones posturing, they are the ones angling to take KBP, we're not threatening their space in any way at all. They don't have the means to take KBP, not at all, but that doens't mean we're going to bend over and let them do whatever they want in our space.

    The irony is we moved to KBP because DAI wanted us to secure the system more. The moment we did, the tears flowed. It's quite pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    lol...

    one bomber pilot pops a lab on a pos you let go offline... wow

    yes, this is clearly an alliance-leadership sanctioned invasion of your space, I hope you're packing and ready to move to jita

    Proof you guys broke the NIP, no towers were to be harmed in the making of this NIP, does not matter if they online or not, you all agreed to a NIP, so that there would be a certain security blanket to cover you all in the case of emergency.

    If I were Co2 Dai, and the rest I would remove UK/DK from Providence, it is the only way you will ever have any peace from someone who cant keep their word on a NIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReallyMatter View Post
    That is my take.
    congratulations - on proving you know absolutely nothing about what has been happening, not that this would suprise anyone who has followed your 'opinions' in providence threads - I particularly liked the one where you predicted Hydra and CVA would remove us

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReallyMatter View Post
    Proof you guys broke the NIP, no towers were to be harmed in the making of this NIP, does not matter if they online or not, you all agreed to a NIP, so that there would be a certain security blanket to cover you all in the case of emergency.

    If I were Co2 Dai, and the rest I would remove UK/DK from Providence, it is the only way you will ever have any peace from someone who cant keep their word on a NIP.
    lol, you're so pathetically transparent, give it up - it won't happen the way you want it to, you'll just end up crying again when your 'predictions' fail to materialise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    congratulations - on proving you know absolutely nothing about what has been happening, not that this would suprise anyone who has followed your 'opinions' in providence threads - I particularly liked the one where you predicted Hydra and CVA would remove us

    I know enough to see that you guys broke the NIP because your butthurt over losing a AFK Carrier!

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    I think you need to look up the term "non invasion pact" before you make another post

    hint: one guy in bomber shooting a lab on offline tower does not equal 'invasion'

    If you want to talk about breaking a NIP, then stating you are going to remove someone from their space is pretty much it... and who did that? oh yes, DAI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    I think you need to look up the term "non invasion pact" before you make another post

    hint: one guy in bomber shooting a lab on offline tower does not equal 'invasion'

    If you want to talk about breaking a NIP, then stating you are going to remove someone from their space is pretty much it... and who did that? oh yes, DAI
    You all had an agreement and in that agreement no SOV or POS warefare period. You broke the NIP. Face it.

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    Out of curiosity, does anyone have the actual wording of that NIP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    you really are quite stupid - we said they could have the tower in there if they didn't stage from it to things like a drive-by, since they claimed they only wanted it there in the event they would assist against an assault on KBP... obviously in hindsight that was bullshit, but it was taken at face value and they were given the benefit of the doubt at the time
    No...it sounds like you got it all wrong. Now you want to change the rules... fail... just like you fail at securing your alliance from spies

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    There are so many takes on this and stories from all sides.

    Short story: we don't want KBP (we would rather someone else look after it) and I believe D'K aren't upholding an agreement they made. Where we are now? D'K setup the prefect headshot, loaded the gun, cocked it and left us to pull the trigger. When they are setting themselves up as a power house in provi, what do you do?

    AFK Carrier, D'K were warned REPEATEDLY that it was at risk. Why does anyone leave a carrier orbiting a pos with fighters out?

    b) general faggotry
    Does that including placing cloaky ships in our pocket to stop us from ratting or running CA's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady Sadik View Post
    Out of curiosity, does anyone have the actual wording of that NIP?
    I do have the original wording that manny gave us in a .txt on my laptop. When the wife comes back tomorrow ill C/P it.

    Do note, this has been changed multiple times after it was presented the first time. For example, the part where people could hotdrop people freely was removed because several alliances complained about not being capable of doing logistics at that point.

    -Edit, i also still have the original list of what alliances would be installed and where, and how the standings would be setup. Along with the general plan of siege from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlost View Post
    Simple DK attacked our POS with bombing runs and fighters, so we killed their carrier afk (2 hours) outside the pos. Butter emo's like normal, try's to setup Daisho super caps for a hot drop (fails), since we knew. Bitter emo's gets bitter more, spreads more lies in DK leadership that the pos was hit after the carrier was dd, but actually Daisho pos was hit 3 hours before. Got DK leadership to agree to hit our pos, we dd their dread while they bubbled our titan sitting in our pos. DK leadership logs on and goes wtf butters...

    Butters emo's more and starts to camp our Daisho E-Y system in a helios. Butter is still emoing....

    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544459
    http://eve-daisho.info/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1544755

    Report: Starbase in KBP7-G is under attack
    From: DED
    Sent: 2010.08.13 12:11

    Solar System: KBP7-G
    Moon: KBP7-G V - Moon 1

    Attacked object: Ion Field Projection Battery
    Current Shield Level: 92%
    Current Armor Integrity: 100%
    Current Hull Integrity: 100%
    Aggressing Pilot: Myles hye
    Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Universal Army
    Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: Damu'Khonde

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    Hah, U'K getting mad about a carrier and Daisho getting mad about not running anomalies. Now we only need CO2 to proclaim their superiority or Agony to step in and say they aren't space cattle, and the supergay circle of Providence will be complete.

    Uninteresting drama about shit alliances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    AAA have nothing to do with it. DK agreed Dai could keep their POS in KBP under certain conditions, one of which was they wouldn't stage from it or camp the station undock.
    Earlier you said that AAA gave DAI the space..

    Now you say different? Please explain why your story keeps changing here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    Sit back, relax, and allow me to tell you a true story....

    When UK lost sov, DAI decided they wanted to take KBP from UK, opportunistically. A meeting was held, and none of the other Providence alliances agreed they had any claim to KBP. Eventually they reluctantly conceded. DAI were given the space by AAA/UK, so it seems a little... ungrateful... to try to take advantage of our disbanding. However, they anchored a tower in KBP, and put an offline TCU on it. It was agreed they could have the tower in system as a staging post in the event they helped defend the system.

    UK/DK had a meeting with DAI, and one of their key complaints was that we didn't really live in KBP, and they felt the system wasnt secure enough. We told them we would be moving to KBP when our logistics was complete (moving completely out of Catch) and would secure the system.... As promised, a few days ago we finally moved into KBP.

    Since then the system has been under total lockdown by DK for ~90% of the time. But suddenly DAI started crying. We werent keeping it "free and open", which was a curious complaint given that their previous complain was that we didn't secure the system.

    Today they thought it would be funny to use the tower we permitted them to keep in system to stage a titan in, and one-shot a carrier who had assigned fighters from a POS. We didn't think this was very sportsmanlike, so we called on op and reinforced their tower.

    DAI then got ~mad~ and stated they would remove us from KBP. To which I can only say: good luck, you'll need it
    Do you mean the space they already hold sov in and I'm understanding your post wrong?

    Also, why so much paranoia? You've spoke so highly of DAI in the past, now when they try to secure the space they've helped defend while DK was going through a disband, you attack their POS's?

    Dude, imo... you should have thanked them for taking the time to setup the tower so people like CVA wouldn't try to take advantage of the situation. They anchored and spent the time onlining a defense POS for a TCU in the event things didn't go well.

    Instead, you shoot their POS's, stab em' in the back and are now in the process of pushing out one of the only decent PVP alliances left in Providence. This just doesn't seem to smart... however, many of the things you do and say butter... aren't very smart. You're a cowboy and a loose cannon. You really give your alliance a bad name. For someone who holds as much pride in his Alliance, you surely do a find job of running it into the dirt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    When they did the titan drive-by on an AFK carrier, it was also on a day they decided to do bombing runs on the station undock. Given they broke the agreement, our patience with them ran out, and we reinforced their tower. Arguing that one guy in a bomber = us starting the aggression is ridiculous, and everyone knows it.
    So, bombing runs on a station is against the NIP?

    So, this rogue pilot who you said did the attacks on the DAI tower... What's happening with him? He still in DK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    KBP is DK's system, not DAI's, and if we don't want them to have a staging tower because a) they publically stated they want to take KBP from us and b) general faggotry, then only an extremely niaive individual would think we weren't acting in a sensible and rational manner
    Well, after having one of my POS's attacked, I'd want to retaliate also. Furthermore, you gave them permission to do it in the first place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    DAI are the ones posturing, they are the ones angling to take KBP, we're not threatening their space in any way at all. They don't have the means to take KBP, not at all, but that doens't mean we're going to bend over and let them do whatever they want in our space.

    The irony is we moved to KBP because DAI wanted us to secure the system more. The moment we did, the tears flowed. It's quite pathetic.
    I don't see tears from DAI... none.

    I see an alliance trying to defend their assets. They may have been "given the space", but in my opinion, they're one of the few entities in Provi who currently have earned the right to hold space. Even your alliance had met with some pretty significant failures, seeing as though it got disbanded.

    If I were AAA on this one... I'd be telling DK to sit down and quit being children. You're about to push out one of the entities who actually do something. You'll make more enemies than friends by your actions... but you never cared about this butter. Your other leaders may tend to agree with this train of thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cippalippus View Post
    Hah, U'K getting mad about a carrier and Daisho getting mad about not running anomalies. Now we only need CO2 to proclaim their superiority or Agony to step in and say they aren't space cattle, and the supergay circle of Providence will be complete.

    Uninteresting drama about shit alliances.
    I don't think we are mad about not running anomalies - I haven't seen any bitching in alliance or heard anything on TS.

    But yes, it is uninteresting drama about shit alliances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dental Floss View Post
    I sincerely wish you morons would take the drama llama in game in a few private convos or on comms to slaughter it rather than discussing it on forums and giving everyone and his mother the opportunity to troll you in a turdhouse thread. I'd think you would want to duck a punch or two, not lean into every last one.
    To be fair, the last drama was held in Providence Command and Butter Dog still posted logs from it to kugu so it really doesn't matter. The only ones posting this time is BD (the one responsible for this mess), the *Matters and people responding to BD's posts to point out the error of his ways.
    Oh and Cippa posted :clp: , whodda thunk it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Dog View Post
    DK leadership and the whole membership base support the decision to reinforce the POS, and still do support it, so Xlost is just talking shit. Jessie and Forlorn, who are the joint execs, are perfectly happy it was reinforced and feel it was an appropriate response.

    The guy who 'attacked' their tower was a rouge pilot, in a bomber. He didn't cause any harm to the tower (didn't even incap a single mod). At the time we decided to reinforce the tower, I didn't even know about it, and frankly it's a non-issue -- DAI are desperately looking for a causus belli, but that is, by any measure, an extremely weak one.

    Daisho are full of impotent rage at the moment. KBP is controlled by DK the vast majority of the time, and they can do absolutely nothing about it, which makes them ~mad~

    At the end of the day, KBP is a DK system. DAI were allowed docking rights and a safe tower, but after their faggotry of titan drive-by's and bombing runs at the station entrance, both rights have been revoked. We didn't start it. DAI have been trying to claim KBP for themselves for a long time. That said, they can do nothing about it, because DK is a much stronger alliance and can control the system across the vast majority of timezones with ease - reducing them to drive-bys and bombers... ~elite pvp~

    The strategic index's on our systems are still ticking. I'm sure if we planted a tower in B-W, drive-by'd their caps, and camped their station with bombers, they would rightfully respond by trying to remove the tower. In a few weeks the system will be jammed anyway, but between now and then, we intend to have some fun.
    Butter let me explain to what how I just set you up for a little bait trick. Yes I gave all the correct information, but left out the piece where your leadership told us what you said to them.

    ?[ 2010.08.13 23:16:54 ] Jessie Arr > BD had no knowledge of that, how many mods did he incap with them?
    ?[ 2010.08.13 23:17:13 ] Xlost > nothing they had to warp out since we started coming in once we saw the mails
    ?[ 2010.08.13 23:17:24 ] Xlost > butters knew he was online
    ?[ 2010.08.13 23:17:53 ] Jessie Arr > yeah, well I asked him why we were hitting mods on your POS, he said they did because you DD'ed us
    So, once again facts are facts. B

    Btw it was more then one bomber, there was a few. We have a few mails generated. Pos's only generates mails every few minutes for attack, even if by more then one person.

    What the true story of KBP is Daisho doesn't want KBP they just want it secure. DK said they would be able to do that, so they are trying to move the alliance there. Emery's from DK a very nice guy, setup a standings with us so they could move stuff in, and get settled. We had a meeting for this past Monday if everything went good to talk future blues.

    Due Butters emoing in his command channel that everyone agreed to join a new command channel due to his leaks on the forums. All DK leaders agreed to lock out Butters do to being a Negative Nancy. Butters begins to emo hardcore while some are still in the old channel. Butters ask for a reset, so we give it to him. So last Sunday Butters calls a CTA to hit Diasho towers in KBP. However leadership told him not to the night before explained by Jessie on TS, so no convo. As the DK fleet 70+ arrives in KBP Nutter sends me a convo.

    Butters = O Thief Aeon Alt (which sits in KBP Planet VII - Moon 7)
    [ 2010.08.08 18:18:18 ] Xlost > o/
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:18:23 ] O Thief > i thought we had agreed you would remove your tower?
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:18:29 ] O Thief > or am i mistaken?
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:18:35 ] Xlost > jessie said we dont have to
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:19:05 ] O Thief > oh, thats not what he told us
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:19:07 ] O Thief > how strange
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:19:12 ] Xlost > i have the convo :P
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:19:15 ] Xlost > from last night
    ?[ 2010.08.08 18:19:19 ] Xlost > fly safe
    In the meantime two pods warp in and our from our offline TCU at our pos. So Daisho setups to defend our tower in KBP, while I try to get a hold of someone in DK. DK jumps into XHQ we setup on the XHQ gate in KBP ready to fight in snipers. And the mexcian stand off begins as they will no longer jump through. I finally get a hold of Forlorn, and he explains they are going to shoot the Razor Pos. Butters starts to emo more to everyone that we are trying to run interfere with their Razor pos shoot. However know one understands Butters sent me a convo earlier hinting towards they were going off our pos. So once this was figured out Butter's was giving misdirection, we allow DK to shoot the Razor tower without a fight. And in short thats how this all started.

    So in Honor of Butter's we created a campaign from the day he asked us to reset which is last Saturday called "The Butter Dog Saga". Sorry for it being a little lower, we tried to do a smart bombing battleship trickwith titan bridge, but didn't go so well. Everyone got a laugh though.

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