This is soo cute. You see that's your main problem, you think you are a tiny ~elite~ alliance, holding all that big big space. The truth is that between Init and Init mercenaries, who comprise a larger part of your fleet, you have over 4000 people. So essentially you are an extremely bloated alliance with shitty participation.Originally Posted by Malcanis
OK sure man, whatever you say. 2 weeks. I promised.
All about gud fites innit?
You know when you were going to post and then didn't because you actually thought about it?...........
The real problem with this fight is that it is over a massive amount of space that neither side can possibly hope to hold in the long run, 4-5 regions are really far too much for the approximately 3000 pilots each side has (well 4.5k for Init, 2.5k for Stain but who is counting) to hold. but it will be interesting see how this goes and this is probably the best of the major conflicts currently running for medium sized fights now that IT have moved to defend against NC. / everyone jumping on the easy kill bandwagon.
Really the only hope that either side has in the long run is if everyone in eve suddenly decides that Stain + surrounds is really shitty and they don't want that space (hey there is a moon rebalance coming, it could happen) . That or a mass recruitment drive and all the joys that brings.
On the other hand I have a feeling that there is going to be a lot of refugees from provi soon, so maybe whoever ends up being the owners of this space will be smart and give it away in exchange for some (terrible) allies.
Well yeah exactly. Ymir can make smart remarks if he like, but this is precisely how I feel. I mean jesus christ, the lag is bad eenough, who would want bigger fights? Steamrolling gets old (and grinding stations oh god please no more ever), and obviously no one likes being steamrolled, but a nice long winter campaign against a roughly equivalent* opponent in a similar timezone, how much better can it get? It's like an ideal war.
*In terms of what fleet sizes are actually being brought, let's not get in to a "who has more alts and inactives in their alliance" shitfest)
I actually agree with you Malcanis, this stuff has created some content and fun for those who are involved and an excuse to pay for this bug ridden laggy game.
I doubt anyone save for the empire mission grinders would last long playing this if it wasnt for the player driven content such as this INIT. stabbing AAA in the back for suspecting AAA was going to stab INIT. in the back.
It's certainly awesome fun. And why wouldn't someone want to fight the Russians in winter time?
Ze germans?It's certainly awesome fun. And why wouldn't someone want to fight the Russians in winter time?
I keep seeing this back stab remark. Didn't AAA reset INIT long before this all went down and started hot dropping it's renters? I mean it's not really like they were blue allies?
And in those 2 facts how can it be said that anyone back stabbed anyone? Seems to me that AAA was the aggressor here and INIT put up the fight that AAA apparently wanted with the reset? Otherwise for the sake of seeming stupid here why the fuck would you reset them then claim back stab when they fought you right out of your space? You didn't want Blue around you so you got red and then it wasn't nice? You guys in AAA are really bitter over your own fuck ups aren't you?
Let's have your pathetic point on the matter that makes real sense to why INIT a neutral entity owed you something after you shit on them. was there a NIP in place? Was there a no hot drop policy in place?
Actually prove something to the fact that anyone back stabbed AAA or shut the fuck up about it already.
Considering half our alliance is german /o\
Perfect! Time to call Zhukov in.
Not sure we need to talk about "back stabs". It was time to fight, and now we are. That's all.
man, all your terrible shitposting made me so mad that i just re-subed and moved my shit to the front.
blame yourself
Who cares. Point being that its this content that makes the game interesting.
You don't have the facts m8. On Oct. 18 in TWJ ROL was blue to INIT and fighting a Stain/AAA gang. INIT was in RRBS and Carriers. The RRBS were getting killed by the Stain Drake blob, this would be the last time INIT. fielded RRBS before the firewall concept was introduced. The ROL members in the INTI fleet spent the fight bubbling the INIT carriers and BS fleet. This was the start of the ROL backstab. The next day ROL went to FAT and tried to nija several systems with out discussions with INIT or IT who were fighting in the area. After 3 days of negotiation ROL was reset on Oct. 21. ROL is at fault here.
Whatever the case, AAA is desperate enough to offer ED (a rather irrelevant alliance) a 'chance' to change sides. Apparently we would have to pay rent though. ...Not a very good way of negotiating, but whatever floats your boat.
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Did you negotiate with Herkulez or whatever that arrogant faggot's name was (the guy CO2 had to deal with)?
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
and whatever sinks yours Securitas
Probably -- its not uncommon when an alliance goes from 700 to 2000 in 2 weeks and completely changes the way it plays the game. Stainwagon could have saved some missiles if they would have just waited a month. DT's failure was fated.
Herculetz would be his name, yes, and it was most likely him. This, btw, would be an example of -A- maintaining the dickhead attitude that made them lose their space in the first place.
Additionally, interestingly enough, when we first dropped SBUs into 68FT before the invasion of Feythabolis began by DT, WN, and PL, it was almost entirely ROL and St0ven who showed up to defend, not -A-. Not quite sure why, though, since logistics routes through Stain or Querious are perfectly acceptable alternatives as opposed to using 68FT to get to Catch, which by that point had almost completely fallen.
Not disagreeing with you but do you have any proof?
Let's put this idea to rest. There was never a backstab of DT by INIT. It was DT that decided to desert the battlefield and in a war deserters get shot.
I bet yall wondering what ED's response to the offer was.
DT thinks you backstabbed them, you think that you are honorable space pirates. It really doesn't matter, but you seem to be really butthurt over it for some reason. Feel free to argue about it for another 10 pages.
Lol, what kind of offer does ED seriously expect? You guys are more terrible than CO2 and that says a lot.
Logs or get out.
Yeah, but put them on Foreplay exclusively for a week, Sec. Fuel the nerdrage!
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
Erm, nowhere in my post you quoted did I even vaguely mention Init backstabbing DT. We were talking about you being a not particularly good friend to ROL by helping DT.
Someone give a tl;dr of recent developments because I'm seeing as lot of uppity AAA posting here.
Confirming that is indeed Holick in that video and he did in fact kick Herculetz into a bottomless pit.
Also, Mintberry, before you allow yourself to look more like a stupid faggot you might want to take notice of the fact that when you try to coerce an ally, you should do some more research into who you're trying to coerce, after which you would take note of the fact that OMN, MMLLP, and the core group of 1AIR (which are all former Dragon's Rage), were all actually in ED, thus explaining why we're more interested in working with them as partners, not pets.
DT failscascade/run away
AAA chestbeats and is shit.
Init is generally chillaxing and occasionally welping fleets.
Caeleste naves interretis gravissimas sunt
Nothing really happened. The most unbiased overview evar:
A couple of people from DT leadership decided it was a sound idea to move back to their roots in low-sec, because their membership was dwindling, participation was bad, lag fights were not fun, etc. Their conversation got leaked by a disgruntled ex-DT member to Initiative. Init didn't appreciate that plan, since they recently decided to fully deploy to Impass to help DT defend their territory. So Init cried "traitor" and reset DT, ganking a couple of their carriers. AFAIK general membership of DT didn't know about those leadership plans, so they got butthurt over Initiative reset and cried "dirty backstabbers!" Among this chaos ROL killed yet another DT supercarrier, which apparently tried to warp to a pos that was no longer there due to evacuation efforts. Eventually DT realized that they are screwed, since they got stuck deep in 0.0 with enemies all around them and no way to do logistics or safely haul their assets out to Empire.
Then DT did the only logical thing anyone would - found a way out. They broke a deal with Stain Brotherhood: safe passage through Stain logistic route in return for transfer of all Sov. A 6 man ROL citizen corp was introduced into DT, got the rights to all of their stations and joined ROL later. There were some tag games with TCUs during that process, but despite Init block dominating in US timezone, they couldn't keep their TCUs alive and ROL successfully put a claim for the majority of Feythabolis region.
There were also several engagements between drake blob from Stain side and "firewall" BS from Init block. One of them happened in AZN system, when Init got trapped by Stain on both sides of a jumpgate and logged off in aggro inside dictor bubbles, which resulted in their total destruction. Another battle happened in XWY, a Jumpbridge system, which became the Stalingrad for Init Block since they couldn't break sov there or kill the JB pos after multiple attempts. Firewall BS fleet failed to do any damage and was destroyed, boring fraps for you: one, two. I have to note here that most of the time Stain outnumbered Init block. After that Stain Brotherhood reinforced 68ft - a station system in Impass, but it was timed for US timezone and was saved. Yesterday there was another fight in C9N system, where Init had a slight advantage in numbers, however because "firewall" format is much more stationary than a mobile drake fleet, they got nailed by a couple of good bombing runs and retreated. Their retreat proved to be costly, and Init block lost a larger part of their fleet on their run until they eventually logged off and lost some more in dictor bubbles.
Dear Dental Floss,
I'm not trying to coerce anybody, if AAA wants to get some renters in advance, well that's good for them, but none of my business. I don't have a slightest idea who OMN, MMLLP or 1AIR are and have never heard of those corps before after playing EVE for the last 3 years. Carry on, soldier.
wow 3 pages of shit.
and trying to hate on each other, well i guess this is the alternative to 3 pages of complaints that eve is one giant nap fest in 0.0
be glad you have stuff to shoot every day and quit whining.
I said hi on the forums and 500 people flamed me
Recent development: alot of terrible posters have appeared itt
Not empty quoting
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
You are correct, I made an error.
You know despite all the RAGEHATE earlier thats actually not a bad recap, guessing the pills have kicked in.
Thank you, ragehate is just for the lulz, if someone outside of the shitfest wants to know what's going on, I'm happy to oblige.
All these shitty poasts and not one mention of our real Achilles heal-- the privateers/orphan empire war decs.
Out of corp alts
Today Stain went to rep their staging POS in 68ft station system, which belongs to CO2. The POS was repped without much resistance, CO2 were nowhere to be found. Init tried to do a bombing run on Stain drake fleet, however they didn't achieve much. The station is coming out deep in US timezone, so since it's Friday there is a real possibility of alarm clock ops for Stain and perhaps a large fight will happen. On the other hand we could possibly blue ball Init and have a good night sleep, time will tell.
Drop a bomb on me!
Iam watching you!!
I'm lovin the people telling me how bad ED is...like we don't already know.
The Colorblind Angel of Kugutsumen - Turning Bad Country into Mad Country one post a time
Ok but where are those logs about -A- wanting ED as pe-renters? Not that i'm butthurt but you know, EVIDENCE!I'm lovin the people telling me how bad ED is...like we don't already know.
I'll post them later....Clerence just told me about it earlier.
Edit: AAA wanted us to pay 5 bn a month. A little unrealistic :P
The Colorblind Angel of Kugutsumen - Turning Bad Country into Mad Country one post a time
That's a bit too pro for us, we prefer autopiloting freighters and trusting in the love of Jesus.
[Arrador] possesses a considerable understanding of ship configurations, strengths and weakness. He gives clear and purposeful instructions, is good at taking advantage of the fleet-composition he's dealt, and never loses sight of the main goal: fun. This, paired with an excellent tolerance for strong drink gives him an almost Churchillian capability to win, despite being completely pissed on booze most of the fleet operation.
you mean 50 bn.
there's a nice wrap-up here. http://evebattles.com/sov_blocks/initiative/dt-explains-botched-evacuation. Some of you guys are quoted in there.
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