Genos pos in KBP7 was knocked into reinforced last night, exits during the downtime though so might not be any action when it comes out. UK seem pretty relaxed about CVA having X-R, but for RP reasons we of course cannot allow the slavers a foothold
so we'll beat the war drums and see what happens
I don't think CVA and friends were alone in that regard. I'd say we were typical of most 0.0 groups who aren't being challenged for the right to own a particular piece of space. I suspect the abilities to defend will similarly atrophy in the groups taking space in New Providence for the same reasons, partly because they have a big kid watching their backs on the schoolyard.
like IT,-A- and SC assumed about NC
Anduin I neg repped you for being a much worse poster than me. Please stop making me cringe.
UK at the moment have a lot of individually good high-SP pilots and established corporations, but also quite a lot of fail too, thanks to poor or non-existent recruitment standards in one or two corps - but the real key thing is: we're not used to owning space and dealing with roaming gangs defensively - so it turns out we're pretty poor at responding successfully to things like nano-gangs, which we're more comfortable running into hostile space than fighting against in our own space.
This has led to a cringe-worthy sea of red on the killboard in the last few weeks, as people suicide close-range ~home defence battlecruisers~ at mach/vaga/scimi roaming gangs or lulz about on the KPB gate before getting wiped out by genos every few hours in an uncordinated mess.
I'm confident we'll adapt as we need to, but for now us smacking anyone else (including ex Provi) for failing at pew pew is a little bit rich when you actually look at the incompetence and failfits smeared all over our own killboard. On the positive, I think people are now realising our situation has changed and there is a huge difference in responding to well organised roaming gangs than to roaming around killing NPC'ers as we used to do (and as genos or outbreak now do).
There's something wrong if your posting is worse than BD's.
Also, Apocalypse Now, whoever they are, have been promoted to holders. R3- comes out of reinforced during the patch at 15:00 EVE or so.
CVA still have holders and promote new entites to that status? I'm sorry but that's quite funny given you have no space to offer, a bit like Aralis' Providence Renting scheme... curious, unless I misunderstand what a holder is?
so PXF staying in provi?
I thought they would be moving to North like FCON and -7-.
I read from few blogs that PXF is leaving provi and already evacced their stuff out. I kinda assumed they are leaving for north just like other competent holders but it seems like that is not that case.
Paxton have already evacced their stuff, they might hang around for a bit and roam but thats about it.
In past practice it meant you were given a system to be responsible for but I don't think current holders are losing status just for losing systems. That's be counter productive of CVA to revoke status. AFAIK we're still holders, though we haven't been direct participants in CVA fleets recently.
I could be wrong. We might no longer be holders but I still have holder access and we're certainly on friendly terms with CVA.
Holders retain their status and forum access as long as they stay in the area.
Sev3rance got their access removed when they moved north etc etc.
If they ever decided to return and rejoin the fight they would be re-instated I guess.
When we ran Provi we had neutrals/citizens, which we only expected to abide by NRDS, dont smacktalk Amarr Empire and in general be respectful to their surroundings.
Holders are, like CVA, expected to be more strict in upholding those standards.
CVAers are expected to talk IC in local/public chats, while normal "non-wizardry" chatter is ok in restricted channels like Holders, alliance, capital, etc etc etc.
R3- reclaimed between downtimes. Failing Dangerous reportedly packing their bags while still losing terribly T1 fit boats and forgetting to stront their towers. GENOS kept UK+pets busy with their pesky tower in KBP while the cleanup was performed.
Somehow they are still convincing people that moving into Providence is a good idea, even while the other failures are trying to get out.
While I'd like to pat CVA & Co on the back for trying, it's ultimately pointless, as if they get too far, -A- will just kick them to the curb again. But I'm always glad to see someone fighting back, even if they're destined to lose.
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For a long time it was like that for U'K as well. It seemed we were destined to roam with skirmish gangs and hit&fade against superior Proviblob forces.
Then stars aligned, we worked hard to gain the trust and friendship of -A- and the rest is history.
There's nothing that says CVA can't find friends who are powerful enough to help them kick U'K out of Provi. In fact it seems they've already found some friends to play with (Outbreak and Hydra). That might not be enough, but it's a start.
Will be interesting times.
No, No, No,Came through in my Rapier and all hell was breaking lose, seems UK put up a CTA and called in everyone they could, R3 right now has 25-28 Carriers in it hitting the station along with 60 - 70 close range BS with hardly any small stuff. I dont think the CVA and Co TCU had time to finish onlining.
So much for "We hope they really get R3"
We logged in this morning after the dt, to see CVA's TCU onlining, with very small amounts of support, so the decision was made to call an immediate CTA. So with less than an hours notice, 130 man fleet came in, bitchslapped the onling TCU, with 2+ hours to go, then guarded the new TCU while the POS came online next to it, then shot the station while the guns were online on the POS.
There was a small engagement when the BS fleet jumped in, but it was mostly a turkey shoot. Then there was some rather fail bombing runs throughout the op. The best they did was 8 bombers at once, that managed to miss *EVERYTHING*. They didnt even kill any fighters or drones.
Also, point of clarification, U'K was there, and I'm fairly sure their FC's agreed, but it was led by Dai'sho primarily, on dai'sho comms, with a dai'sho POS.
EDIT: Also <--- not a member of Dai'sho.
Outbreak and Hydra are good fun and I hope they hang around Provi for a while at least
I think what we're seeing here is that the New Provi is working pretty well in terms of attracting ~elite~ roamers to come and enjoy themselves.
That said, CVA don't have much of a hope of any meaningful gains, because the majority of Provi don't want them claiming space (even if I am personally relaxed about it, but then, I am a nobody). But with Aralis in any kind of leadership role in CVA they will continue doing deluded things because thats just how he rolls, and their alliance will suffer for it in terms of losing members and decreasing participation - I think this is a shame.
If nothing else, CVA are getting the opportunity to learn the ropes on taking sov. I'm sure this will be a trying period but if they can maintain membership and gather enough allies, the could do well in the long run. I wouldn't count them out yet. They haven't completely shut down and they are *finally* fighting. They have nothing really to lose right now and taking these systems gives their members a reason to shoot. Hopefully this is a moreale boost, which could mean they win even if they don't take and keep these systems.
Didn't U'K lose members after getting the boot, Butter Dog? I would imagine it took you guys a while to recover.
I must admit, I find the idea of small-scale sov warfare to be very interesting. I have concerns that if there is genuinely no sov warfare in Provi at all, we will get rusty, and be unprepared when its needed. Something like these skirmishes with CVA is good practice, and gives both sides chances to practice and perfect their styles.
Genos was planning on defending our KBP tower but U'K+ friends didnt turn up untill around 22:00 eve time, by then the tower had enough time to get repped + stronted and by that time most of our guys started to log due to TZ issues, It's coming out of reinforce tomorrow, also randomly killed 2 U'k freighters in highsec today, other than that there's not much happening
one of the freighters seems to have encountered a tyrannis ~feature~ where he just stayed in space for ages after crashing to desktop
I had encountered a similar feature in D-G
Firestar left the alliance.
He first, then the corp followed him. This after Gibguard being the alliance leader during the whole war.
Firestar is in deed a great loss to PXF. Randall of PXIN has stepped in as our new leader though, and he is just as strong and capable. There really isn't a lot to chat about concerning the situation as of yet. PXF has wished Gibguard and Firestar the best of luck on their way. They are all quality pilots and I'm sure they will go far wherever they go. It's sad to see them leave, but PXF is far more then 1 man or 1 corp. As for the fate of PXF, we are at the moment enjoying some R&R looking towards the future.
I can only speak for myself of course, I am but a grunt, but I and many with me have had a lot of fun these past few months and I've personally learned a lot. It's been good fights and good fun with minimal smack. That's the Paxton way
Paxton Federation is no more. It is falling apart as I write this.
Firestar has left, and Paxton Industries (the executor corp) is withdrawing from the alliance.
PXF's info page in-game also no longer lists Geocorp among its members.
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
It's hard when you've been in that alliance for 2 or more years, giving everything you had.
Players had to choose between the leader who built PXF, or the one that was Alliance CEO during the past 5 months. It split the alliance in half, with most pvp-ers wanting to go where Gibguard goes, and others waiting to see what El Torrent would decide for the alliance. Moving PXIN out of the alliance was the last straw, and broke everything up.
You can expect a few H/C groups moving north now.
I guess the no posting rules for the alliance will soon be moot…
A couple key corps were unhappy with leadership decisions, and moved on or where planning to. PXIN decided that instead of rebuilding (and playing the same sort of game it has for some years), that they would try something new instead.
There is a little angst, and some disappointment. PXF was a surprisingly good alliance to be a part of.
Wow, this makes me a bit sad. Good luck whatever you guys decided to do.
Edit: (go north)
Neddy: it is ultimately that Gibguard stomped his feet and left in a huff that killed PXF.
Never really had any fights with Paxton before the provibloc fail started - running through their camps to go deeper into Providence with roaming HACs - I must say I won't miss Paxton. However they came to defend their systems which actually made them look much stronger than they looked to me when UK was running *wolfpacks* daily.