How is it you have a 10 man industry corp and a 3 man pvp corp? Could it be that you are all carebears?Originally Posted by Jacabon Mere
But back to the topic...
Paxton def have some high end backup, will be interesting to see if they escalate the sov war.
yeah the sov transfer fuck-up was pretty lolz, seem not a day goes by without someone dropping sov somewhere
Genos pos in KBP7 was knocked into reinforced last night, exits during the downtime though so might not be any action when it comes out. UK seem pretty relaxed about CVA having X-R, but for RP reasons we of course cannot allow the slavers a foothold
so we'll beat the war drums and see what happens
Bigger? Yes but stronger? The strength of Providence was imaginary. We were all pretty much guilty of overestimating our ability to fight and I suspect a number of our potential enemies overestimated the trouble they would have taking Provi. There's no question now that we didn't have the experience (both in toons and actual player ability) to fight toe to toe with many of the other nullsec entities.
I don't think CVA and friends were alone in that regard. I'd say we were typical of most 0.0 groups who aren't being challenged for the right to own a particular piece of space. I suspect the abilities to defend will similarly atrophy in the groups taking space in New Providence for the same reasons, partly because they have a big kid watching their backs on the schoolyard.
like IT,-A- and SC assumed about NC
I remember having the old provibloc in dock range with 50+ fleets with 10 Ushra'Khan warriors trying to kill them before they could dock every day last years. Of course we are terrible.
m) <- introducing the facepalm smilie
No doubt, I'm loving all these ex provifail station huggers/blobbers crying how we (UK) blobs and station hugs. I loved going into Provi with a 10 man bc gang and getting hot dropped by carriers being backed up with a 100 plus man rrbs gang. CVA getting sov back in Provi... Who gives a fuck??? We'll let them keep it for a little bit then take it back from them... shut the fuck up....
Anduin I neg repped you for being a much worse poster than me. Please stop making me cringe.
UK at the moment have a lot of individually good high-SP pilots and established corporations, but also quite a lot of fail too, thanks to poor or non-existent recruitment standards in one or two corps - but the real key thing is: we're not used to owning space and dealing with roaming gangs defensively - so it turns out we're pretty poor at responding successfully to things like nano-gangs, which we're more comfortable running into hostile space than fighting against in our own space.
This has led to a cringe-worthy sea of red on the killboard in the last few weeks, as people suicide close-range ~home defence battlecruisers~ at mach/vaga/scimi roaming gangs or lulz about on the KPB gate before getting wiped out by genos every few hours in an uncordinated mess.
I'm confident we'll adapt as we need to, but for now us smacking anyone else (including ex Provi) for failing at pew pew is a little bit rich when you actually look at the incompetence and failfits smeared all over our own killboard. On the positive, I think people are now realising our situation has changed and there is a huge difference in responding to well organised roaming gangs than to roaming around killing NPC'ers as we used to do (and as genos or outbreak now do).
There's something wrong if your posting is worse than BD's.
Wholly fukin shit batman, I am amazed you actually posted something that wasnt Absolute Bullshit.
UK probably finally realized that with CVA dead they'll have no friends to play with, as all the pets are fucking terrible. There's about 200-300 people in citadel in EU prime now but with the morale boost from pushing back the numbers will hopefully go up.
Also, Apocalypse Now, whoever they are, have been promoted to holders. R3- comes out of reinforced during the patch at 15:00 EVE or so.
CVA still have holders and promote new entites to that status? I'm sorry but that's quite funny given you have no space to offer, a bit like Aralis' Providence Renting scheme... curious, unless I misunderstand what a holder is?
BitterDick, shouldn't you still be on the batphone with Manny? I'm supprised you have time to post here with all the cock-sucking you need to be doing. Their Holders will have space if you don't do a good job rubbing those balls while stroking the shaft.
so PXF staying in provi?
I thought they would be moving to North like FCON and -7-.
Who knows. They still hold 2 stationsystems, although there apparently is plans to remove them from thos as well. I suspect the X-3 failure put a temporary halt to those plans. Also confirming that putting the 10 year olds on ignorelist really cleans up this thread.
I read from few blogs that PXF is leaving provi and already evacced their stuff out. I kinda assumed they are leaving for north just like other competent holders but it seems like that is not that case.
Paxton have already evacced their stuff, they might hang around for a bit and roam but thats about it.
My understanding is that they are regrouping in empire whilst they decide their next course of action. At present, I believe nothing specific has been decided upon...
Holder status (as I remember it) was an agreement designating fealty to Amarr, agreement to follow CVA rules, and to defend the space in the name of Amarr. It means you can hold space as CVA assigns. It shouldn't be effected by the loss of space, as you'll be offered systems as they are available.
In past practice it meant you were given a system to be responsible for but I don't think current holders are losing status just for losing systems. That's be counter productive of CVA to revoke status. AFAIK we're still holders, though we haven't been direct participants in CVA fleets recently.
I could be wrong. We might no longer be holders but I still have holder access and we're certainly on friendly terms with CVA.
Holders retain their status and forum access as long as they stay in the area.
Sev3rance got their access removed when they moved north etc etc.
If they ever decided to return and rejoin the fight they would be re-instated I guess.
When we ran Provi we had neutrals/citizens, which we only expected to abide by NRDS, dont smacktalk Amarr Empire and in general be respectful to their surroundings.
Holders are, like CVA, expected to be more strict in upholding those standards.
CVAers are expected to talk IC in local/public chats, while normal "non-wizardry" chatter is ok in restricted channels like Holders, alliance, capital, etc etc etc.
So he's only right when he's criticizing himself?
The Colorblind Angel of Kugutsumen - Turning Bad Country into Mad Country one post a time
R3- reclaimed between downtimes. Failing Dangerous reportedly packing their bags while still losing terribly T1 fit boats and forgetting to stront their towers. GENOS kept UK+pets busy with their pesky tower in KBP while the cleanup was performed.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/U-HYMT
More unpaid bills or did EOS decide to give the system to someone?
EOS constellation is going to Important Internet Spaceships League
Somehow they are still convincing people that moving into Providence is a good idea, even while the other failures are trying to get out.
While I'd like to pat CVA & Co on the back for trying, it's ultimately pointless, as if they get too far, -A- will just kick them to the curb again. But I'm always glad to see someone fighting back, even if they're destined to lose.
The Colorblind Angel of Kugutsumen - Turning Bad Country into Mad Country one post a time
For a long time it was like that for U'K as well. It seemed we were destined to roam with skirmish gangs and hit&fade against superior Proviblob forces.
Then stars aligned, we worked hard to gain the trust and friendship of -A- and the rest is history.
There's nothing that says CVA can't find friends who are powerful enough to help them kick U'K out of Provi. In fact it seems they've already found some friends to play with (Outbreak and Hydra). That might not be enough, but it's a start.
Will be interesting times.
No, No, No,Came through in my Rapier and all hell was breaking lose, seems UK put up a CTA and called in everyone they could, R3 right now has 25-28 Carriers in it hitting the station along with 60 - 70 close range BS with hardly any small stuff. I dont think the CVA and Co TCU had time to finish onlining.
So much for "We hope they really get R3"
We logged in this morning after the dt, to see CVA's TCU onlining, with very small amounts of support, so the decision was made to call an immediate CTA. So with less than an hours notice, 130 man fleet came in, bitchslapped the onling TCU, with 2+ hours to go, then guarded the new TCU while the POS came online next to it, then shot the station while the guns were online on the POS.
There was a small engagement when the BS fleet jumped in, but it was mostly a turkey shoot. Then there was some rather fail bombing runs throughout the op. The best they did was 8 bombers at once, that managed to miss *EVERYTHING*. They didnt even kill any fighters or drones.
Also, point of clarification, U'K was there, and I'm fairly sure their FC's agreed, but it was led by Dai'sho primarily, on dai'sho comms, with a dai'sho POS.
EDIT: Also <--- not a member of Dai'sho.
Outbreak and Hydra are good fun and I hope they hang around Provi for a while at least
I think what we're seeing here is that the New Provi is working pretty well in terms of attracting ~elite~ roamers to come and enjoy themselves.
That said, CVA don't have much of a hope of any meaningful gains, because the majority of Provi don't want them claiming space (even if I am personally relaxed about it, but then, I am a nobody). But with Aralis in any kind of leadership role in CVA they will continue doing deluded things because thats just how he rolls, and their alliance will suffer for it in terms of losing members and decreasing participation - I think this is a shame.
BitterDick, I think you're so full of shit it is some how bleeding from under your fingernails and making it into your posts. Even their public leaks show people were leaving because they weren't trying to retake anything. I believe they had more numbers yestarday from CVA then they had in a long while.Outbreak and Hydra are good fun and I hope they hang around Provi for a while at least
I think what we're seeing here is that the New Provi is working pretty well in terms of attracting ~elite~ roamers to come and enjoy themselves.
That said, CVA don't have much of a hope of any meaningful gains, because the majority of Provi don't want them claiming space (even if I am personally relaxed about it, but then, I am a nobody). But with Aralis in any kind of leadership role in CVA they will continue doing deluded things because thats just how he rolls, and their alliance will suffer for it in terms of losing members and decreasing participation - I think this is a shame.
If nothing else, CVA are getting the opportunity to learn the ropes on taking sov. I'm sure this will be a trying period but if they can maintain membership and gather enough allies, the could do well in the long run. I wouldn't count them out yet. They haven't completely shut down and they are *finally* fighting. They have nothing really to lose right now and taking these systems gives their members a reason to shoot. Hopefully this is a moreale boost, which could mean they win even if they don't take and keep these systems.
Didn't U'K lose members after getting the boot, Butter Dog? I would imagine it took you guys a while to recover.
I think its inevitable that any alliance going through this kind of thing would take a hit to their membership. Some people will disagree with management decisions, some have no interest in that type of gameplay. Some simply dont have the time available to commit to that kind of warfare and the losses that go with it.
I must admit, I find the idea of small-scale sov warfare to be very interesting. I have concerns that if there is genuinely no sov warfare in Provi at all, we will get rusty, and be unprepared when its needed. Something like these skirmishes with CVA is good practice, and gives both sides chances to practice and perfect their styles.
Genos was planning on defending our KBP tower but U'K+ friends didnt turn up untill around 22:00 eve time, by then the tower had enough time to get repped + stronted and by that time most of our guys started to log due to TZ issues, It's coming out of reinforce tomorrow, also randomly killed 2 U'k freighters in highsec today, other than that there's not much happening
one of the freighters seems to have encountered a tyrannis ~feature~ where he just stayed in space for ages after crashing to desktop
I had encountered a similar feature in D-G
That feature got introduced on may 5, 2003.one of the freighters seems to have encountered a tyrannis ~feature~ where he just stayed in space for ages after crashing to desktop
Firestar left the alliance.
Seems quite a lot of your freighters have been crashing latelyone of the freighters seems to have encountered a tyrannis ~feature~ where he just stayed in space for ages after crashing to desktop
WTF?
Including the nominal alliance executor Gibguard?
He first, then the corp followed him. This after Gibguard being the alliance leader during the whole war.
There is an upsetting lack of insight in this post
I'd be interested to hear the motivation behind this, but maybe you're not feeling chatty.
Either way, it's a huge loss to the alliance.
Firestar is in deed a great loss to PXF. Randall of PXIN has stepped in as our new leader though, and he is just as strong and capable. There really isn't a lot to chat about concerning the situation as of yet. PXF has wished Gibguard and Firestar the best of luck on their way. They are all quality pilots and I'm sure they will go far wherever they go. It's sad to see them leave, but PXF is far more then 1 man or 1 corp. As for the fate of PXF, we are at the moment enjoying some R&R looking towards the future.
I can only speak for myself of course, I am but a grunt, but I and many with me have had a lot of fun these past few months and I've personally learned a lot. It's been good fights and good fun with minimal smack. That's the Paxton way
Paxton Federation is no more. It is falling apart as I write this.
Firestar has left, and Paxton Industries (the executor corp) is withdrawing from the alliance.
PXF's info page in-game also no longer lists Geocorp among its members.
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
It's hard when you've been in that alliance for 2 or more years, giving everything you had.
Players had to choose between the leader who built PXF, or the one that was Alliance CEO during the past 5 months. It split the alliance in half, with most pvp-ers wanting to go where Gibguard goes, and others waiting to see what El Torrent would decide for the alliance. Moving PXIN out of the alliance was the last straw, and broke everything up.
You can expect a few H/C groups moving north now.
I guess the no posting rules for the alliance will soon be moot…
A couple key corps were unhappy with leadership decisions, and moved on or where planning to. PXIN decided that instead of rebuilding (and playing the same sort of game it has for some years), that they would try something new instead.
There is a little angst, and some disappointment. PXF was a surprisingly good alliance to be a part of.
Got to say, I think this is a shame. You guys put up a good fight, and didnt buckle when I'm sure plenty of others would have.
I (and I am sure others in U'K) wish you the best of luck in whatever direction you end up taking. Unless its north.
Wow, this makes me a bit sad. Good luck whatever you guys decided to do.
Edit: (go north)
Neddy: it is ultimately that Gibguard stomped his feet and left in a huff that killed PXF.
Never really had any fights with Paxton before the provibloc fail started - running through their camps to go deeper into Providence with roaming HACs - I must say I won't miss Paxton. However they came to defend their systems which actually made them look much stronger than they looked to me when UK was running *wolfpacks* daily.
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