Trust me, bro, it's better not to show up at all if you're flying around in fittings like that.Originally Posted by zuquar b
hmm this is getting to easy
someone has to encourage the noobs or else you wouldnt have anyone to play with. we in CO2 beleive in sacrficing ourselvs for the greater cause.
More lolz, show em master zuquar, we are your loyal slaved so we will gladly dispose of our lives for the cause of the Circle of Two dicks.
Edit: (faketwo dicks comming your way, your ass is in danger. x-ing up for ~goodfights~ (what is this post about, i dont even )
Edit (real one) @ DarkMatter:
guise + d00d, the difference between us and the rest of the eve-o faggotry blobfest, is that we dont care about "look at ze'h fittens dey are'h lolz". Kill stuff / lose stuff and fuck the rest of the k/d efficiency and shit. Oh god see ive killed almost 400 ships,m lost 29 i mus be' pro?
http://www.eve-co2.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39061
Nah im a terrible blobber so fu*k off.
judging by the fact u now have spent 2 pages trolling about 1 ships poor fit, do u even play eve or just spin in stations.
you do know they havnt implemented the walking in stations stuff yet , right?
and here i thought this thread of yours was about providence, but i guess theres not much more for you to say on that matter.
The was more then 1 fail fit.
P.s Tyrehl, you should probably change your "location", you haven't "taken" anything, -A- has given you your space in Provi :lol:
if i say that i dont care about that would i say the truth? Nah im not changing my location, but i really hope that you would understand how stupid you look from our point of view. Do you think that any of your words are actually offending us? Oh "where are the frekis" oh noo we lost some expensive ships on the tournament .. lol @ the eve playerbase. terrible at eve, terrible in RL.
))) i really enjoy reading the mad ex-providence folks posts, they really make my day
Edit: yeh there were more than 1-2 terrible fits. And we have some people that come with ravens and shield tanked ships on RR BS fleets. So what, its their problem.
Btw WTB battle reports. is anything going on at all?
Uh, you just joined the blobfest. You are now what you fought for three years, heh.guise + d00d, the difference between us and the rest of the eve-o faggotry blobfest
Not usually, welcome to Providence.is anything going on at all?
didn't it go something like you got raped and then batphoned -a-/atlas/u'k and then node failure with something like 400 in local?
someone actually down there will have to give a better br.
Honestly complaining about people blobbing is sad. Everyone blobs given enough warm bodies they can call on, hell we're trying it now.
Maybe , just maybe you should try actually logging on
Wow 2 pages of defending something Co2 don't care about and even some new members to show how much they don't care what we say about them.
Zuquar I have heard that your people are big on smacktalk in local. Not very nice. Nobody likes arrogant bullies that smack. Maybe that’s how it works in Venal but not how the Provi that I once knew operates. Can you blame people for picking on your fits or trolling you?
How is this any different from the likes of Opticon who are already cut off on the most part from getting back to trade hubs for ships and fittings? Weak excuse at best IMO.
Also the extended DT might not have helped with logistics but I hear that you sure did use it to your own advantage by on lining SBU's in 18x right before it started. Borderline exploit if you ask me
Oh you will spank us if we smack in local. Btw i should stop posting drunk, i even registered on k-menNobody likes arrogant bullies that smack. Maybe that’s how it works in Venal but not how the Provi that I once knew operates. Can you blame people for picking on your fits or trolling you?
And no we dont care. The "wtb BR's" line was a terrible attempt to put the topic back on track. I will just stop reading some people's posts as its a waste of time. "look you'r blobing, u are just like the nc that u were fighting against"
http://eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62983
http://eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62953
http://eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62766
Even if someone fitted his BS the wrong way because he didnt knew how to do it (uh its really hard to ask someone or check the kb's) that doesnt mean shit, the next time he will undock in a properly fitted ship. Every thing that was said against us in this topic is just a terrible attempt to troll us, maybe defending our e-honour wasnt a good idea at all.
As i said earlier in this post
o/I will just stop reading some people's posts as its just a waste of time.
it clearly wasn't a terrible attempt at trolling because 5 pages later you guys are still registering en masse and typing out :words: posts about how much you're not trolled and don't care
but keep on undocking in 3x pds mixed beam/pulse apocs or whatever, you guys are ~eLiTe~ pvpers living in providence and not a bunch of 3rd world bosnian pets of crappy role players
Hahahahamore ~mad~ please
hahhaha u mad??????? :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twis ted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:: twisted::twisted::twisted:Hahahaha
penif bro, that was a pretty bad post.
Wow dude? How long did you have to search through your KB to find those fits? You just lashed out at and insulted most of the people in this thread. Your arrogance is rather surprising. Perhaps you should remove Kugutsumen from your bookmarks then.... and hey if k-men is your thing then don't stay in the closet for our sake.Oh you will spank us if we smack in local. Btw i should stop posting drunk, i even registered on k-men
And no we dont care. The "wtb BR's" line was a terrible attempt to put the topic back on track. I will just stop reading some people's posts as its a waste of time. "look you'r blobing, u are just like the nc that u were fighting against"
http://eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62983
http://eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62953
http://eve-co2.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62766
Even if someone fitted his BS the wrong way because he didnt knew how to do it (uh its really hard to ask someone or check the kb's) that doesnt mean shit, the next time he will undock in a properly fitted ship. Every thing that was said against us in this topic is just a terrible attempt to troll us, maybe defending our e-honour wasnt a good idea at all.
As i said earlier in this post
o/
If Co2 enjoy smacktalk then go for it as I don't care but as your esteemed leader said you are a small alliance and should probably be trying to get as many blue friends as you can. The way i see it Co2 are prime cannon fodder for the NC to get a foothold into the south right on the doorstep of the SC
Happy smacking.
If every battle of words here could be turned into a ~goodfight~ in EVE, people had at least some pixel issues to fight for thus making EVE a better place for all. Then again K-men would get pretty boring and maybe even a serious platform for nice people trading knowledge, decent demeanor, morale virtues and overall fairness.
NOT??
FYIWow dude? How long did you have to search through your KB to find those fits? You just lashed out at and insulted most of the people in this thread. Your arrogance is rather surprising. Perhaps you should remove Kugutsumen from your bookmarks then.... and hey if k-men is your thing then don't stay in the closet for our sake.
If Co2 enjoy smacktalk then go for it as I don't care but as your esteemed leader said you are a small alliance and should probably be trying to get as many blue friends as you can. The way i see it Co2 are prime cannon fodder for the NC to get a foothold into the south right on the doorstep of the SC
Happy smacking.
Date: 2010-06-27 21:16:00
Date: 2010-06-27 21:13:00
Date: 2010-06-27 08:02:00
All of the linked losses are from the same day (or the previous/next one) as the ones linked as "lolfits". I had to like .. check the first page of our killboard.
So we should blue everyone, act as some stupid rats and cover the moment someone looks at us? Prior to the "great northern war" in april (lol "success"you are a small alliance and should probably be trying to get as many blue friends as you can.) we had reseted everyone (and were reseted by almost everyone). Even white noise, an alliance that is usually in a close relation with us, had us reseted so we were shooting at each other. To tell you the truth, it was fun just flying around. The situation now is different, sov is involved but as far as i know the idea about providence involves words like "FFA" and "roaming and shooting at neuts". I guess that if we need someone blue we will have them blue(if they agree ofc), as long as it will lead to something productive. + we reseted some "entities" 3 weeks ago, as they werent doing anything against the NC in venal / in the north at all. Nice guys but the situation didnt required us to have everyone blue just for the sake of it. So your arguments are invalid.
Yea as every NC leader would pay attention to some ranting on the forums (K-men is like caod c/d ? o.O) when they plan their strategic objectives. They may decide to try ~breaching~ trough in providence, but i dont see how we can avoid that with few nice words and ass licking.The way i see it Co2 are prime cannon fodder for the NC to get a foothold into the south right on the doorstep of the SC
Really, can we stop this pointless discussioni was looking forward to posting on K-men when there is actually something to say and lurking most of the time. Really didnt expected that heavy trolling by some people here.
Conversation between our executor and a C02 pilot.
?[ 2010.06.28 20:25:40 ] Tempest Storm > but hej i have a suggestion,
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:11 ] cannonman58102 > This is true, but the allies didn't have many more people, neither did we, well mostly, makes it rather hard to crowd a system more and more does it not?
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:16 ] Tempest Storm > lets fight this out only cva + opti against co2, wouldnt hurt us, and we can ask everyone else to stay out of it
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:37 ] cannonman58102 > *would be more than happy to*
Then came smalltalk
And tbh, most c02 are very good about keeping it professional in local, handle losses and wins well. the 1st cavalry division or w/e they are, the ones primary kicked out, are an exception. Their CEO smacked for about 10m in local until he was killed 1 on 1, then proceeded to yell unfair.
No matter what spin and troll, its CO2 choice wherever they go and what they do.
Its also true, that they just pretty much killed any chance of being relevant and future oriented alliance. There is no alliance, that got stronger as a pvp entity cause they got sov space. However hte history is littered by corpses of alliances, that made this lets have sov, bridges and build supercaps and turned into coffin, pets or useless paper tigers dreaming of the glory past.
Now i can understand, that people got bored north or they just want to rat and build, its all fine, as its part of game and people might like variety. However any time put into sov structures and caring about space is wasted time in the long run. Why would any pvper do that, and why would they care. Not enough isk? Ive made more isk in NPC space than ever in sov space, and i havent missed bridges or towers that keep screaming ever.
What are you tryin to get?
a) more friends - could well be, as you get blobbed in north, but joining another blob is not the solution for fun, and you know it very well
b) more isk - maybe, but your people already lived for years in npc space, they cant have isk problems, even the dumbest ones
c) more/better players - no, the best pvpers will leave as soon as you got space and go enjoy something they play the game for, also what point has it to be alliance nr. 234 with some sov systems, part of blue or red camp, looking for corps/pilots. Isnt it better to stand out and be the tiger of the north with everyone red?
d) more supercaps - maybe, but what is the point of supercaps, so that block A or B has not 50 supercarriers but 55.....plus most of your players wont fly them so they couldnt care less
e) make a impact in eve - you could have become another white noise. but you choose to become daisho......its a choice, but personaly i would have awaited more, more ambitions and courage
f) better logistics - only rational choice, on the other hand, you could well hang out in empire, but at least harder logistics makes people be more cautious and clever in the long run.
Anyway GL and let your players get and bring more fun in and to the eve universe.
I usually dont smack in local (um sometimes im just in that mood, i asked an opticon guy if they will be doing firesale soon but thats pretty meh smacking). Cant guarantee for the other people :/ cz lion, we can also go to lowsec and live there, enjoying alot of different targets and stuff. Roaming around and acting like a pirate may be fun for some people, but in the general plan you are just another small alliance that has no chances of being a (minor/major) factor (or something at all) in the region. Having nothing to lose is nice, but then there is just a npc station that you can call your home.
That is true, i joined the alliance several months before we got reseted by the NC. To be honest, we were terrible at large scale pvp. Most of the people that im flying with now werent that experienced either (and i was new to the game back then, you can imagine me in my punisher flying around and getting doomsdayed by a titanc) more/better players - no, the best pvpers will leave as soon as you got space and go enjoy something they play the game for, also what point has it to be alliance nr. 234 with some sov systems, part of blue or red camp, looking for corps/pilots. Isnt it better to stand out and be the tiger of the north with everyone red?
So far what you said is true, but then there is the thing that we cant grow if we stay in npc space and keep a low profile or something. More or less having space attracts people and brings some meaning to the game. Smashing your head against a brick wall (the northern blob) is fun for some time but when you stop for a second and look whats happening around, you realise that after all the fighting you havent accomplished anything. Shooting sov. structures is booring, but it adds another aspect of the game that we were missing for almost an year now.
: )
a) has nothing to do with our move.
b) You have no idea , or you belong to a group that has only blues around you.
c)the tiger without ability to replace cap ships unless members pay there titans them selvs? nah not really. so pvp.ers leave because of outblobing from NC.
d) yes, and the point is explained under point c.
e) nah, who cares about that, other than vuk lau, molle, and maybe LDO on kugu.
f) nope we managed just fine. though who wouldnt mind easyer logi.
c)
its quite simple
ANYTHING can happen in providence, including a decent quality alliance like Co2 thinking "this looks fun, we want a piece" and the bitter ex-provi and the CVA alts will come trolling with righteous FURY into this thread, with predictable lines about how awful it all is and how much better their stupid gay napfest was
here's the thing: Providence under CVA was a homogenous, dull, forced-standings enclave that was good for carebears and terrible at everything else - and alliance of the quality of Co2 would never have moved into CVA's providence, and frankly neither would Agony or Daisho
so, be bitter, get angry - it doesnt really matter, cos at the end of the day CVA are living in lowsec and are lucky to get 30 people in their CTA's, and the rest of the old provi are either in the NC or have ragequit... amarr victor indeed
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:46 ] Tempest Storm > ah yeah the pl gang of about 100 didnt change anything rioght?Conversation between our executor and a C02 pilot.
?[ 2010.06.28 20:25:40 ] Tempest Storm > but hej i have a suggestion,
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:11 ] cannonman58102 > This is true, but the allies didn't have many more people, neither did we, well mostly, makes it rather hard to crowd a system more and more does it not?
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:16 ] Tempest Storm > lets fight this out only cva + opti against co2, wouldnt hurt us, and we can ask everyone else to stay out of it
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:37 ] cannonman58102 > *would be more than happy to*
Then came smalltalk
And tbh, most c02 are very good about keeping it professional in local, handle losses and wins well. the 1st cavalry division or w/e they are, the ones primary kicked out, are an exception. Their CEO smacked for about 10m in local until he was killed 1 on 1, then proceeded to yell unfair.
?[ 2010.06.28 20:26:59 ] cannonman58102 > PL gang came in AFTER d/c's happened
?[ 2010.06.28 20:27:07 ] Tempest Storm > nah not true
?[ 2010.06.28 20:27:11 ] cannonman58102 > and they came in to save the fleet.
?[ 2010.06.28 20:27:15 ] Tempest Storm > or else u have very poor internet
?[ 2010.06.28 20:27:56 ] Tempest Storm > aaa didnt come until pl was allrdy shooting at pos
?[ 2010.06.28 20:28:07 ] Tempest Storm > neither did atlas , so dont try that
?[ 2010.06.28 20:28:20 ] cannonman58102 > Oh? well thats different intel than I have
?[ 2010.06.28 20:28:22 ] cannonman58102 > Hmm
?[ 2010.06.28 20:28:42 ] cannonman58102 > Well I honestly am not going to bitch if this is true, so I will double check times on chatlogs and KM's and we shall see
?[ 2010.06.28 20:28:42 ] Tempest Storm > well i have it first hand, i was sitting in pos when it happnd
?[ 2010.06.28 20:29:30 ] Tempest Storm > there was a very good fight actualy until atlas finally joined, and noone asked them to come, they did it on there own
?[ 2010.06.28 20:29:45 ] Tempest Storm > so i blame atlas for the crash
?[ 2010.06.28 20:29:55 ] Koitex > well i know we did not ask them
?[ 2010.06.28 20:30:06 ] Caroll Yanaki > Is CO2 blue to Atlas?
?[ 2010.06.28 20:30:18 ] Koitex > oh i think they are
?[ 2010.06.28 20:30:22 ] cannonman58102 > Well, all I know is it was going well, then our side started d/cing left and right, and I talked to a few buddys on AAA's side of the ball and they said they had hardly any disconnects reported
?[ 2010.06.28 20:30:24 ] cannonman58102 > Doubtfull
?[ 2010.06.28 20:30:29 ] cannonman58102 > Atlas doesn't blue easy
?[ 2010.06.28 20:30:51 ] Tempest Storm > neither did i , but offcourse they come running when they hear whats going on, i admit we calld aaa when pl showed up, aaa though said good luck and closed convo , so we didnt even know they would show up until they suddently was there
?[ 2010.06.28 20:31:43 ] Tempest Storm > we are neutral to atlas
?[ 2010.06.28 20:32:02 ] Koitex > and pl are neutral to us
?[ 2010.06.28 20:32:13 ] Tempest Storm > but on accations we blue ppl if they wanna help , as do all alliances i know off
?[ 2010.06.28 20:32:42 ] cannonman58102 > Most
?[ 2010.06.28 20:32:43 ] Caroll Yanaki > So you blued Atlas for this fight, right?
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:10 ] Tempest Storm > wtf . legion off xx here? havnt u made a wrong turn somewhere or is everyone following us from venal
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:18 ] cannonman58102 >
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:23 ] Caroll Yanaki > So the blob can work....
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:24 ] cannonman58102 > We are popular
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:29 ] cannonman58102 > Blobs suck
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:37 ] cannonman58102 > People need to rely on themselves and not allies
?[ 2010.06.28 20:33:46 ] cannonman58102 > Us included
?[ 2010.06.28 20:34:11 ] cannonman58102 > But thats not how eve works
?[ 2010.06.28 20:34:12 ] cannonman58102 > so
?[ 2010.06.28 20:34:13 ] cannonman58102 > *shrugs*
?[ 2010.06.28 20:34:23 ] cannonman58102 > Hows venal nowadays?
?[ 2010.06.28 20:34:23 ] Tempest Storm > we hate blobs ourselvs, its 1 reason why we moved from venal, couldnt move without having 500 nc blobing every 10 man gang we had out,
?[ 2010.06.28 20:34:35 ] cannonman58102 > I havent been out there for years
?[ 2010.06.28 20:35:10 ] Tempest Storm > i agree on what u said up there cannon but yeah sadly thats not how eve works
?[ 2010.06.28 20:35:23 ] Tempest Storm > game mechaniocs favour bigger and bigger blobs all the time
?[ 2010.06.28 20:35:52 ] cannonman58102 > And yet game mechanics are restrictive on large gang warfare, as we possibly saw last night
?[ 2010.06.28 20:36:38 ] Tempest Storm > absolutly , sometimes it favours 1 side , othertimes the other side, but yeah its sad
?[ 2010.06.28 20:37:25 ] cannonman58102 > And I apologize about bitching that CCP is siding here and what not, just that since we allied with CVA CCP has not answered one of my petitions and it seems we have game mechanics favoring reds every other day
?[ 2010.06.28 20:37:32 ] Tempest Storm > it helped us last night, as the timer on the tcu had 1 hour left, but we did have 3 titans parked in the tower and 2 supercarriers , so if there hadnt been lag we would have defended that tcu anyway
?[ 2010.06.28 20:37:59 ] cannonman58102 > Hell, a 14 man C02 fleet reinforced an Ihub when we had 70 blues nearbye due to lag in 3D that did not allow us to engage
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:00 ] cannonman58102 > Ah
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:03 ] Tempest Storm >
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:06 ] cannonman58102 > True, but PL was there for a reason
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:14 ] Tempest Storm > yeah we know
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:32 ] cannonman58102 > And I personally do not want to see a PL+NC cap battle against Atlas and AAA in provi
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:35 ] cannonman58102 > thats all we need
?[ 2010.06.28 20:38:51 ] Tempest Storm > me neither m8 me neither
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So much this
cannonman is a delusional tard who leads the worst alliance in eve
if opticons failurecascade (look at their pilot numbers) needs any explination - he is it
My god, this thread is shit.
New provi will never be as hilarious as the old one, seeing how it's largely owned by various dumb faggots. That sentence alone should cover pretty much all what the current situation is about (although I do have to admit that the old provi, too, was owned by faggots, just much better ones)
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O.o how is that any different than what I posted, I have had conversations and seen conversations with multiple people, and nobody wants to see this large scale fleet combat. With the possible exception of Mhorsus Mihi, who would be used to it by now I am guessing. I just threw in what was pertinent, and if you wanted the full chatlog, ask. Thats not the full chatlog btw.
nice try
ooohisowantyoutotouchmytralalalabecauseinevergetan yandareverybadattrolling.
Also, I don't have a tralala fucktard, its a song, and the only think I know about trolling is that its what bitter dick attempts to do daily.
hmmm i must admit, i was very tired when reading your post tralalala, and mistook the small talk comment and saw it as smack talkThen came smalltalk
And yeah just like everyone else our alliance allso has its share of ppl smacking.
but usually we do try keep it in a friendly tone.
laff@HandofSatan complaining about everyone docking up when he rolled through not last week with a gang twice the size of ours and still lost a few straggling noobs while we were also in the process of duking it out with CVA
laff@people saying we were "given" space or that we batphone Atlas, UK and AAA when Atlas just seems to show up and is neutral when they do, AAA says they won't come and then appears, and UK actually does come when they say they will. Also, superlaff@people saying this when CVA batphoned PL and MM.
Finally, oohyoutouchmytralala, 1st Cav was not kicked out of Primary, we left after Primary and Sys-K completely tanked in Esoteria (which, btw, is absolutely and 100% Sys-K's fault). We felt at the time that our opinions on strategy were falling on deaf ears and we felt that we had good reason to give opinions since we were one of the more experienced corps in Primary, our core group having been in the ED/IRC vs. all of Eve war (o/ Czech Lion). Since then, however, we've had good relations with Guru and Akhavir from Primary and even got a "Sorry about that" evemail from them when they killed one of our guys due to us being neut to them (since CO2 is neut) but them being blue to us.
So in short, stop talking shit, you idiot.
As far as smacktalk goes, we love drunken roams, do you not?
Hmm so you had a fight for it?
No worries, I don't pvp much, but I have respect for co2, as does most of opticon. And my information about 1st cav came from I believe cosmoboy, though I am not completly sure where I heard it. I keep seeing questions or jabs at opticon that I addressed on I think page 18, guess butter doesn't read threads before he posts. And no, I don't drink or smacktalk, I'm a good girl
your alliance is shit, you're failurecascading but won't admit it, and you need to take your head out of the sandNo worries, I don't pvp much, but I have respect for co2, as does most of opticon. And my information about 1st cav came from I believe cosmoboy, though I am not completly sure where I heard it. I keep seeing questions or jabs at opticon that I addressed on I think page 18, guess butter doesn't read threads before he posts. And no, I don't drink or smacktalk, I'm a good girl
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/O...Alliance/stats
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/O...e/corporations
lol
how do I answer this question without falling into some sort of troll trap o' annoyance?
btw, LDO, yeah, we did online SBUs a few minutes before the extended downtime. Don't see why that would be an exploit, but it didn't exactly work out in our favor considering that when the server came up, we ended up having the ihub come out in 3D, fight with CVA for a long ass time, then HandofSatan and his scimitars, then AAA citizens, and during all that, the station also came out of RF. That means that we had to do about 200 mill HP in damage in 2 different systems and didn't have any dreads to back us up (read: extended dt = fucked up our logi planning).
CVA had plenty of opportunities to pick a target and we wouldn't have been able to defend both with our 20+ people and later a UK sniper hac gang. Later, though, when they returned in their zealots with guardians and afterburners, we just decided we'd had enough and raped their faces with RR BS.
TL;DR: trolls talk shit on kugu, but we still took both systems and accomplished both objectives, and then proceeded to online our TCU in F-Y after a gigantic clusterfuck.
gg
Oh really? Since the "mass exodus" as you called it happened, our numbers stabalized and we added a new corp. Now why, butter dog, would our numbers go down due to failscading while we still have our space and be fine as we are losing it? Most of the corps that are left have an 80 percent and above efficiency and or are very good at building. Sean took this oppurtunity to take opticon away from the path of being a fail carebear alliance and is preparing us for our lowsec move, where we have the ability to function and prosper. I will admit we do not have the manpower now after the purge to hold our 0.0 without help, but we are also a hell of a lot better of an alliance since that same purge. All our straight up miners and anomoly runners, those that won't fight, are gone with the exception of quite literally myself. I honestly think its admirable that he chose to cut down his numbers in favor of rebuilding opticon the right way. Far as I was told, we were put together very hastily before and that caused a lot of issues. And speak for yourself, UK is according to EVERYONE a shadow of what it once was, at least we are making an attempt at progressing rather than getting fat and lazy. Being able to field 100 when your a 1200 man alliance is about the same as opticon fielding 25 out of a 300 man alliance.
The only two corperations it actually hurt to lose were capsuleers of doom and the leather knights. Cryo left of their own accord, but had about a 35 percent efficiency as a corp and was all around terrible. the dominion of light is also a decent corp, but were not in long.
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
I haven't checked in on this thread for a couple of days, but there seems to be a fair bit of misinformation about the recent battle in F-Y that involved CVA/Opti/PL/UK/-A-/Atlas/Co2. I will try and give as accurate a description as possible:
Word came in over intel that a moderate CVA gang was forming, BS/logi heavy. UK decided to keep eyes open for it, but didnt actively form up against it, as they were off having fun on a small roam through IIS space. After a little while, we had an intel update that the CVA fleet had bridged to F-Y, and were attacking the outpost there. Initially, this was unopposed, but word shortly came in that C02/-a- were engaging them. The fighting had moved from the outpost to the LF- gate, and this is where I joined them and got to see the fight myself.
CVA (+opti) were fighting some distance off the gate, spread out into a couple of clumps covering maybe 50km. -a- (+c02) were engaging them, with a number of bubbles up, though perhaps half the CVA gang wasn't bubbled. Still, the fight seemed to be going in -a-'s favour, with CVA being forced to warp off a number of times and rejoin the battle at a different position. Again, -a- would get in and bubble a fair portion of the CVA fleet, and some more ships would go down. It was at about this point that UK entered the fight, having dropping the roam they were on and travelling over. UK warped in at range, and started picking off anything staying in range. Bubbles meant repositioning was tricky, but CVA warped out again and bubbles expired. A minute or two later, CVA warped back in grid, and things kicked off again. Bubbles went up, and again it looked like CVA were taking a bit of a beating (though their logistics were doing a pretty reasonable job of keeping people up). It was at this point that 1) PL jumped into the system (I dont recall if they bridged or just used the gate, things were fairly busy) and 2) atlas were reported as being a couple of jumps away.
With the introduction of PL to the field, the system went from quite laggy to *very* laggy, but fighting was still possible. Everyone was losing ships, though -a- (+uk/co2) seemed to be hanging in there ok. Fighting continued for a couple of minutes with no major changes, until Atlas jumped in. It was around this point that everything ground to a halt. Some could still fire, others couldnt. Some could warp, others couldnt. I know of at least 2 people who warped to a different gate, and instead were automagically dropped off right in the middle of the bubbles at the LF- gate. Anyone trying to exit system seemed to get locked out and lost all control, and people logging back in were just given a black screen. From there, no significant fighting took place, just people with functional guns popping those that couldnt move or fire back afaik.
Up to this point, I have to say that it was a superb fight. It was very dynamic, with one side getting good position before the other would counter it. Despite the numbers, both sides were hanging in there, and neither seemed to be taking massive losses. Even the introduction of PL didnt seem to cause a failcascade, though their introduction was only shortly before the lockups. Still, GF all, was fun...
Thats not quite how i remember it but I don't know all the terms. Bubbled is the bubbles that prevent you from warping I m assuming, and we didn't warp off as far as I saw, we sa tout there in the bubbles and fought. Fought is a relative term as I was jamming people and have about 200k sp in gunnery. Atlas arrived before PL I believe. We didn't get immediate word that they were coming, but I seem to remember a warning going up on vent about atlas nearbye and then PL jumping into system somehow after. In either case, I was told that the d/c's were completly one sided by a few friends in AAA. Though a circle of two pilot did say they had problems, so I don't know who to believe.
And why is it whenever I think I make a good point to butter dog, he doesn't reply back : /
I'm not sure who 'we' represents in your reply. If you are referring to CVA, they most definitely left the field at least twice whilst I was there, warping to the sun and then bouncing back within a minute or two. If you aren't referring to CVA, then obviously this statement doesnt apply to you :-)
With regards to the d/c's, these were definitely affecting U'K, as 75% of our gang got dropped or stuck on gate activation. Others (Atlas) were reporting 10+ minutes to load grid, if it loaded at all, and a couple who got stuck at LF- were reporting that they couldnt activate mods, but were coming under fire.
Finally, I *could* be wrong with regards to who arrived first, atlas or pl. Either way, I would say there were less than 90 secs between the two. There was a moments confusion when an overview bug showed PL as neutral (wtf, 100 neuts just entered system in a ton of T3! Ah, its just PL)
Well, you probably know more about it than I do, I am sure atlas arrived first, and I am in Opticon. So I was with the CVA group. I didn't really understand a lot of what was happening, I just saw a bunch of people enter and was told not to shoot them. The reason I know that Atlas came first is I thought the new guys were friendly, then I was informed they were not, after PL came in I assumed the same thing of them but was told otherwise. Either way, opticon will probably be forced from providence, I don't think theres any doubt, co2 will be in here irregardless, Legio will still suck, noir will still do nothing, and I will eventually learn to pvp properly
All eve pee vee pee experts know instinctively that moving around between warpins to keep at optimal from hostiles is a sign that you are losing.
Yes but we had a Higher efficiency in the battle, and The guy above me said Atlas and PL didn't make much of a difference in the fight irregardless.
You talkin' to me, pretty boy? Because I sure as hell wasn't talking to you.
Ughhh :dogfight:
We had terrible connection issues, at some point there were no people responding on TS when the fc asked who is still *there*. I missed almost the whole fight, managed to jump in the system just before PL and ATLAS joined the fight. As i was reshipping i logged in my alt to keep an eye on the station. What followed eh .. node death, my alt got disconnected, i undocked to check if im still around the station (in scan range). Blackscreen. Attempts to log back in - blackscreen. One of our alliance members was on the POS with the TCU, well he said that he doesnt have any lag, his modules are cycling and he can lock the pos mods without problems. Soon after that someone said that he is *not* on the POS, it looks like he got disconnected but the client refused to accept that.
As a result of that the TCU that onlined several minutes before the system died got stuck in an "anchored" state, with the station being invulnerable again and the system listed as "unclaimed". CCP refused to respond to our petitions for almost 2 days, now we have sov and stuff (bah, at last).
And I need your permission to talk now? Why don't you just stay on topic sweetie and try to keep up with the big words when I say things like "During the conflict, AAA was being subdued until Atlas and PL warped in and crashed the server." I know there are a lot of words bigger than four letters in there, but you just need to try harder.
What is it about Providence that draws all the retards in?
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