It all makes sense now!Originally Posted by kriegherr
So Eejit may be from Missouri, and may have a mullet.
It all makes sense now!
So Eejit may be from Missouri, and may have a mullet.
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
http://www.ushrakhan.com/alliance/ed...&kll_id=129070
How'd that happen.
Also your board is missing a lot of deaths, BitterDick. I'd have been embarrassed too.
Looks pretty accurate to me DarkMatter, at least its roughly the same # of UK deaths on their board as there are UK kills on the CVA board. They obviously don't have Co2 deaths on their board . . . which would be normal . . .
Taking orders from Ushra'Khan of all people. How the mighty have fallen.
You're too optimistic.
And wow that's some rape of U'K right there. Butter's beloved RR BS fleet dying to HACs? What happened exactly?
Is it really a rape when a DOOM. pos did more damage to a fleet on the same night (as linked in the Northern Cease-Fire thread)?
Compare CVA's results in the alliance tournament with UK and AAA.
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
Any very one-sided fight counts in my book.
oh god however will we recover from losing ten battleships
I'll log in for the first time in a week and disband my corp in shame
My first troll, i quite enjoyed that.
Edit: fuck, when were we mighty?
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
yes yes... however will you recover from our terrible 'orders' to have some space for free, and manage your own affairs and standings - your shame will be never ending
Wait so CO2 is taking Opticon space?
For some wierdo reason i always expected CO2 to be better then that since the NC debacle. Besides, i thought you guys loved venal
they are not staying permantly, bulding titans or some shit and leaving
We love Branch, specifcially 304 const where we built the stations. And yes, our roots are firmly embedded in Venal. But come on, now, do you expect us to take that back anytime soon, if the combined forces of the south cant?
However, all this expectation from us is somewhat confusing. Were a small bunch of pvp'ers whos normal targets throw 11 titans at us to RF a pos. Weve come on a road trip for some good fights and thats what were getting.
Most of the people who fight up north have space down south to support infrastrucure and although we survived the NC resetting us and kicking us out of branch, living out of npc space isnt the best way to build considering MM hold just about every moon worth more than its POS fuel.
We love our small gang fighting with lots of targets, sounds good to us. Heck some of the guys are still talking about that CVA fight last night, first time we had a "GF" for quite a while and not a one sided blobathon. If CVA want to do that every night then were in heaven.
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
This guy knows our plans, you should listen to him.
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
Who says we don't? Everyone needs a place to call home. It's not like Venal is going to be taken from us. Jump clones are a thing of beauty. Besides, so far the fights in Providence have been pretty fun. With the NC, on the other hand, if we bring 20 battleships, they bring 400. If we bring 50 BS + caps, they bring 100 assorted titans, dreadnoughts, carriers, and moms. Is that really fun for anyone involved?
"Providence quite a fun region compared to the rest of eve" shocker
I never thought Co2 would retake their branch pocket, its fucking stupid to even think that will happen. What i was aiming at is that Co2 was one of the few entitys next to White Noise that didnt just grab their shit and fucked off every time the NC dropped 10+ titans on your undock.
I just didnt expect a, for what i can see, core group of effective PVP'rs wanting to settle down in sovspace.
The building titans etc i can see, but getting 1 altcorp and stuffing em into a SC alliance to spam CSAA's aint that hard (fuck im doing it myself, and i dont have a alliance i affilicate myself with)
Its not suprising you guys could take a break from the NC blobfest, i just thought you guys enjoyed the overflow of targets. And i guess ya do, otherwise ya wouldnt have come to provi, same blob less titans.
So you know, no one in Co2 has the intention of "settling down." One of our fears with taking sov in Providence, in fact, was that we might end up becoming a fat and lazy alliance who just plexes and mines all the time. We don't want that to happen. But we need some sort of infrastructure if we're to continue fighting the NC.
Take for example, what the NC's got vs. what we have. We helped kill 6 of their titans. They can replace them. We can kill 6 more. They can replace them. Etc. But if they get lucky and are able to gank all our titans in one go, or even one titan; how long do you think it will take us to recover, considering our setup compared to the NC's?
This isn't about us becoming fat and lazy and fucking off because the NC blobbed us out. This is about us becoming stronger so we can stick our boots further up the NC's ass.
to be fair, being blobbed 24/7 gets boring quickly, and ultimately is futile
the impression I get is that Co2 want some space to support their pvp operations, so they can roadtrip or play around in provi - there is also the psychological element of having a 'home', which anymore who has lived in npc space for a long time will tell you has a certain appeal
sov space is gay
sov space is gay
takes very little time to take it over and very little required to take it in terms of logistics for the attacker. You don't even have to plan or prepare for it anymore. Just blob and drop sbus. As long as the other side can't reach anywhere around your numbers you can steam roll through. Bring back pos warfare dominion is too easy (unless you're really bad like the sc)
its a smart move by UK to bring carbon dioxide into provi. It makes their defense that much stronger if CVA ever attacks them. Current holders should be worried because UK will remove them if they find new alliances to occupy the area.
Is this a serious post? And here I thought it takes a full week plus three continuous blobs to take a station system with an ihub (which just so happens to be almost every system in Providence). Maybe if you're talking about a 2k man alliance taking sov from a 300 man alliance then it's boring, sure. But for us, a 655 man alliance working to remove a 300 man alliance with the backing of a 900 man alliance, I think anyone with a quarter of a brain can see how the dynamic might change.
Apart from that, though, the idea that POS warfare > Dominion sov warfare seems pretty flawed, the most obvious reason being that it means whoever has deeper pockets ultimately wins. Case in point, a system has 80 moons. Defender can afford 30 towers, attacker can afford 50. Rich man wins.
At least with the current system, it depends at least partially on determination, leadership, morale, and pvp ability rather simply tower, tower, tower, tower, tower, tower.
But I guess if blobbing is all you know...
Hmmmmmm, what are the locations of those CSAA's?
We might have to take a roadtrip. I love killing my old alliance mates
Also, I hope you guys never leave venal. We wouldn't have Gigx to loose retardely expensive marauders.
Ya DUDE! I think the question is, was your post a serious post?
a 1555 coalition vs 300 man alliance is a HUGE difference than a 2000 man alliance.
Btw I will miss yall up North, I was heartbroken when yall were reset/left nc =(, more heartbroken now that you will leave us alone to fraternize with wn solely =(.
didnt u hear WN will be taking LEGIO systems in provi
yous trollin
Im guessing you dont realise how retarded and useless that post is, but since you represent MM im not supprised.Hmmmmmm, what are the locations of those CSAA's?
We might have to take a roadtrip. I love killing my old alliance mates
Also, I hope you guys never leave venal. We wouldn't have Gigx to loose retardely expensive marauders.
Looking at Gigx's KB stats he lost a Kronos once upon a time that im assuming you was present for. This obviously means he goes roaming blind drunk in them every week right.
But congrats on your defining moment in EVE being able to kill GigX in a Kronos, tales of your noble bravery should be passed down from generation to generation of anomoly bots in the NC.
Since were in Provi atm i feel inclined to RP at you
Thou enraged sire?
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
He's a bitter ex-provi idiot. Not even a troll, just dumb. There are a few of them around.
Hmmmmmm, what are the locations of those CSAA's?
We might have to take a roadtrip. I love killing my old alliance mates
Also, I hope you guys never leave venal. We wouldn't have Gigx to loose retardely expensive marauders.
hehe you should do that, who will then defend your tech moons in venal while you are away against our clones and cap fleet we left there for the same reason)
Nice one omitting CVA from that count. Class act, all the way.
Anyway, we had a good fight with them all around last night. We enjoyed it and I'm sure they did too. Though the amount of hatred between them and U'K is something that's pretty new for us.
There are no tech moons in Venal, just like there's no Camelot in Monty Python's Holy Grail.
I dont think there has been any alliance that was capable of preventing themselves of going carebear after getting sov. Especialy in a area where continues fighting is lacking.
Are you saying you guys cannot replace 250b in 1 go? Am i the only one here that figured out more ways to get huge piles of isk without having to mine/rat/plex/moons/PI?
If this is true, im seriously rethinking the status of Co2. With the brainpower some of you guys have, you should have figured this out by now.
Having space and all techmoons in eve isnt the only way of making isk, and is probably one of the less effective ways currently.
Most PVP groups prefer NPC space for its access and depending on where you live, location. Imho, a pure PVP group shouldnt care about where they live, aslong as targets are available in masses. Bothering to take space somewhere ties you down and requires you to redirect ISK into the direction of keeping it, thus limiting your funding for w/e PVP projects you have going (a titan is quite a RRBS fleet you could have replaced for example). The fact that people get this wierd idea that having sov makes things easyer is retarded. It makes it easyer to get fat and rich. Usualy something carebears do.
If you seriously think i have CSAA's in providence your nuts. Although your in MM, so that is not so suprising. With the current stability in providence there isnt anyone safe from removal apart from UK. And the amount of bushhattery in there would keep anyone from deploying anything of value under their ticker.Hmmmmmm, what are the locations of those CSAA's?
We might have to take a roadtrip. I love killing my old alliance mates
Also, I hope you guys never leave venal. We wouldn't have Gigx to loose retardely expensive marauders.
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I laughed.
Maybe you would like some more timers, maybe more hitpoints on sov structures.
“Isn't it funny how the mood can be ruined so quickly by just one busted condom”
Yep, smartest thing they've done since they've set up their version of Providence. If Co2 moves in heavy, it's a real game changer in Providence. Vast majority of -A-'s holders are steaming shit, this is a huge upgrade for -A- bloc in Provi.
No different than the Co2 guy omitting U'K and Atlas, heh.Nice one omitting CVA from that count. Class act, all the way.
once again CO2 will be first at something, this is starting to be a habit it seems.
touche.
but he omitted the POWERFUL ARMIES OF MORDOR! err... -A- and Atlas =(
edit: some dude already mentioned atlas sadly =*(
Stop self-promoting, you'll look as terrible as DOOM does.
Yeah, we suck at jumpclones =/hehe you should do that, who will then defend your tech moons in venal while you are away against our clones and cap fleet we left there for the same reason
If I new it was this easy to troll you co2 guys, i would have started sooner. Although i will point out my favorite kill is TJ's titan, but shhhh......
And per the MM command, i am not allowed to post anything constructive. EDIT: I AM PIQUED AND VEXED, SIRE
Yeah, that was my bad, I admit it. I was thinking about the station/hub RF op last night and forgot about UK and the rest because UK wasn't able to come until the very end, -A- was busy fighting the French in HED, and Atlas came, shot a couple things, got shot a bit by us, and left in the span of about 20 minutes.
Still, the OP's logic doesn't apply to CO2's situation because the OP describes a situation where "As long as the other side can't reach anywhere around your numbers you can steam roll through." which is very obviously not the situation for us with CVA's involvement and considering that we RF'd 3D without the aid of the POWERFUL ARMIES OF MORDOR!
So you are saying your going to create continues fighting to stop people from doing anomalys all day as there is no pvp going on?
Unless you can get your members to put their energy into, their going to end up carebearing anyway. It doesnt matter if you live in shit NPC space or upgraded sov space. When people have fuckall to do they get their carebear boat out and go shoot a rat.
So unless you create something to keep your members active on, their going to start carebearing sooner or later. Although i guess this is intended as you have replacement titans to build.
I really dont see Co2 changing or being the first at not turning into carebears after getting sov. You guys were far less active wile you held branch, and your general intention in providence is to gain access to huge piles of isk.
Seeing you didnt take any of the options that didnt require sov to make isk. I really doubt your going to do anything else but grind anoms all day wile hoping you dont get fat and lazy.
Since this is now a "current and ex-Co2 members" thread, I'll chime in that I'm looking forward to Co2 in Providence. I always had fun in Co2 fleets, even if it took me a week to figure out that "sahb-ray make bah-bahl" was an instruction to the dictor pilots.
I think they'll fit in well in Providence. Saw a couple in the area the past few days, was strange but now makes sense. Lots of small gangs (5 to 30 man it usually seems) rolling around at all times of the day and night looking to bruise and get bruised, lots of ratters for the folks who like solo work. If I'm remembering correctly, NDCP was always excellent at very small gang work and they ought to have a field day. The rest of Co2 ought to be able to find something to shoot when they're interested in it.
Deira
how do you know what our general intentions are in providence? as far as i know, you havnt been in on any off the planning about our move to providence.
If we was in providence to make isk then yeah we could just have stayed in venal and done that.
Since its such a big secret to you about what can be done in sov space then let me reveile a great eve secret to you, sov space allso means the ability to build supercaps, a region like providence with there NIP makes it alot easyer to do just that.
about the pvp , then i see maybe even better possibilitys in providence atm for an alliance like ours when u concider that whenever we leave our stations in venal , the jungledrums go out thru the nc intells and we allways get counterd with 4:1 forces as a minimum.
1 thing you seem to forget is that noone has said anything about us joining any kind of coalition in providence, and you are just assuming that we are part of some coalition that is non existing. there is a big difrence in a coalition and a temporary agreement about getting something done and then go back to haveing fun pvp against each other once we have settled, rather than being blobed all the time from a huge coalition of carebears who dont really wanna pvp but just control.
I wish you were right, but Agony's experience is that Syndicate got mighty dry for roaming pvp and Providence is much juicier.
Anyway it's great to have Co2 in the area, good fights so far.
Thnx for the warm welcome old and new friends of ours, we will try not to get fat and lazy in this " so rich space that we are moving into " hehe
this is low-quality propaganda, you can do better than this
Opticon, in their wisdom, told us they were joining forces with CVA... what did they expect to happen?
I really dont care what your intentions are in Providence, but its pretty obvious as pretty much all alliances are in providence for the same reason. Id point you at my post on page 11, you seem to have missed my earlyer dealings with your secrets about sovspace.
So now you join the other side of the blobfest, i guess thats a good idea. I can see how being blobbed to fuck is boring, but that doesnt mean you should submit and turn into a bunch of carebears because you fail to explore further options. Like i said, I've got CSAA's running and im not in any major alliance with any of my mains, its easy as hell finding the right people to accept a altcorp to spew CSAA's down with, several alliances even rent their moons out for that purpose as mining them became useless and they no longer need to spam them for sov purposes. Having empty moons in your space is still fairly bad due beachead POS etc.
So instead of finding a place where the 2-3 people involved with supercap building do their thing you moved the entire alliance down to carebearheaven. As really, venal, even though its broken. Does not match to upgraded anoms. (especialy rat wise, atleast you can constantly fire ze missiles at Sansha's)
If you think there isnt a "coalition" in providence, your really really dumb. I made a post describing it a few pages back. "kills eachothers carebears during the day, and fleets up together to squat pubbies in the night" Which is really what provi comes down to, although not many carebears actualy get killed.
As said, the location of NPC space can prove valuable from roams. From venal you can access several regions in no time, Same deal from Curse and Outer Ring. Syndicate is a bit meh depending on which side you live, although then still meh.
The sad part imho right now. Is apart from NPC space being dead empty in most cases (like syndicate apart from S-U, even PC9 doesnt have -active- inhabitants atm) the space around it is just as dead.
I really wish people that made posts actually had some real info about any thing
Provi is a place where no one alliance makes a call about who will go and who will stay we all talk and decide what would be best for the vision that is provi no one is a renter or pet we are all our own entities and make our own decisions.
AAA approached most of us with the concept and we came because it sounded like a great idea ….. Who in eve wouldn’t like a bit of space to go pvp in, where the whole area isn’t covered buy a sea of blues. Unless some one hits sov in provi most of us hunt each other and the roaming gangs get to deal with most of us as individuals (hell we had a 5 way fight in kbp that was odd) with there own fleets most of us keep our fleets to the 10 to 20 man size and the pvp is about fun and respect.
are you saying this with straight face?
Now that's comedy.Provi is a place where no one alliance makes a call about who will go and who will stay we all talk and decide what would be best for the vision that is provi no one is a renter or pet we are all our own entities and make our own decisions.
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