You sound kinda desperate.Originally Posted by DarkMatter
You sound kinda desperate.
Na, just :rofling: at the -A- chest beating about removing CVA from Providence. I also just wanna see how quickly they reset standings with IT and run home when they find blobs bigger then theirs up here and they lose some caps.
They really are paper tigers.
I haven't noticed a great deal of chest beating. I'd imagine they would just be happy the last 2.5 months of boring grind is behind them. Will be interesting to see how the new Providence works out.
Pretty much this....whats to chestbeat about. I mean grinding through as many stations as we did was a sign of our determination. But so what someday we will probably take more stations and eventually someone will take ours its the circle of eve. As far as the North goes who knows we might get up there and welp supercap fleet maybe we will rape one... Suppose we will see.
subst(rofling, crying bitter tears)
Well, the conflict is over and it's obvious that CVA took the goon Delve 3 approach: a day of fighting followed by moving the offensive to forums. I guess next step is Aralis locking out corps and suiciding dreads
hmm, I don't think you don't understand UK, since we're not a 'minnie RP' group nor are we part of a "minnie RP group". Actually UK is not a minimatar loyalist entity - like EM
/wizardhat
EM operate in empire, and SF are cool - but they are also very small numbering c.200 each or less. Are you seriously suggesting that UK + EM +SF could stand any hope of taking what was the 10,000 pilot ProvidenceBloc alone? Of course the idea is pretty silly.
To be honest, you overplay how important RP is to the average UK player. We don't role-play in alliance chat, my corp don't role play much at all (maybe the odd RP comment in local) - it's a feature of the alliance, but not a restrictive one. CVA were/are quite similar in that repsect, there is a core of roleplayers but actually most of them are not roleplayers and just play along when they feel like it.
I must say I'm impressed with AAA for going all the way. I mean i've been in the provi bloc and everybody was in some kind of denial that AAA would go all the way. I moved away some weeks ago when it was at least for me clear that Provi was lost. I'm still in a shock when it comes to how fast CVA backed down and stopped defending Providence. The plan was ofc to make AAA bored and hope that you would go home. Its sad to see how bitter ppl are about it.. its a game.. Provi did their move... AAA did their move and CVA lost thats it. I don't think CVA is dead.. it will come back in some form.. the battle for Provi is over for now.. but maybe in a year or so if CVA has learned anything from this war. What i hear from friends thats still there is that the PVP is better then ever.. they can now start farming your renters
EM roleplayer checking in o7
We were asked in the past whether we want to help in Providence, but we declined for the most part. We did send some people to the original 9uy fight which U'K lost, for example, and we also had some pilots in Providence this time around (small numbers and no coordination with the groups in Provi already, so don't look for them on killboards :-D). U'K offered us an outpost, even - which was very nice of them, but we had to decline.
Electus Matari is a Republic loyalist group. Our place is in Minmatar high/low-sec, not in 0.0. That's the basis on which we recruit corporations and pilots, which means that we only have very few people who want to go to 0.0. So, trying to go there just won't work, and isn't what we're interested in.
Noir. is renting out their systems. http://amerrylifeandashortone.blogspot.com/ There goes a good merc corp.
Who cares bout merc corps. Short of everyone disbanding and reforming as 400man alliances battling each other, mercs are fairly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Unless maybe they can do a good bomber run with say 20 people but even then..
Lmao. The only reason you did it was because if you didn't it would only prove how much of a paper tiger -a- has become. If you stopped after Arlis basically laughed at your terms you would have been the laughing stock of EVE, and you knew that, so you HAD to keep going, or finally be proved to be the paper tigers you are.
Not worried though, it will happen when you go North then reset IT to get out of it. Can't wait to see you up here o/. I'm sure it will be some excuse like "we have to defend from CVA" when you leave. :lol:
Where do you get the idea proviblock would ever be able to field 10,00 pilots?
To be honest, you overplay....
You trying to troll or what?subst(rofling, crying bitter tears)
Well, the conflict is over and it's obvious that CVA took the goon Delve 3 approach: a day of fighting followed by moving the offensive to forums. I guess next step is Aralis locking out corps and suiciding dreads
At the second CVA declined -A- offer they decided how this would end.I must say I'm impressed with AAA for going all the way. I mean i've been in the provi bloc and everybody was in some kind of denial that AAA would go all the way. I moved away some weeks ago when it was at least for me clear that Provi was lost. I'm still in a shock when it comes to how fast CVA backed down and stopped defending Providence. The plan was ofc to make AAA bored and hope that you would go home. Its sad to see how bitter ppl are about it.. its a game.. Provi did their move... AAA did their move and CVA lost thats it. I don't think CVA is dead.. it will come back in some form.. the battle for Provi is over for now.. but maybe in a year or so if CVA has learned anything from this war. What i hear from friends thats still there is that the PVP is better then ever.. they can now start farming your renters
And the force SC fielded CVA and friends didnt have much choice then to simply not defend.
The option would be to loose their cap fleet, supercaps and the outposts. Atleast now they still have their ships and fleet intact.
Dont really see how CVA and friends could have played it out any other way as long as -A- were decided to kick them out...
Don't stop believing. It seems like no matter what -A- does you will not be satisfied until you prove to yourself that you are right.
Technically, I'm gloating. And now you learned a new word! Win all around.
CVA will have to wait for sometime just like IT and Razor. It might take longer but nothing is permanent in eve. Who would have thought PL will loose fountain. NC+PL+Goons should have finished off Atlas & friends then -A- instead PL reset everyone and killed NC fleets. This basically cost them Fountain. More importantly who would have thought goons would choose a moron to be their CEO (I know its not his fault but he should have made sure they had enough isk in their wallet before leaving or gave someone roles to monitor the sov bill ).
No alliance will hold very long unless people see some 0.0 realistically in reach. The players will be moving to other groups as they can offer them all the fun and no hassle of living in mpire. If you once touched 0.0, you dont want to stick in mpire for far too long. Plus people naturally drift apart.
Best CVA bet atm would be to join up with NC in some cooperation mode and take some space, regains strength, isk and more allies, and come back and take providence without gf, but like uk/aaa/atlas did, just steamroll. If they stay in amarr space, they gona die, very slowly, but die. roaming gangs to Providence wont cut it. In this hindsight, -7- did the right thing fro future, mayb not the roleplaying one, but economically and militarily the right decision.
While you might be true (also don't want to speculate of any sort of miracle comeback either) but there are few strange things with/in CVA:
- the 0.0 has never been a source of income for majority (if anyone)
- there have been no ship replacement/funding programms on alliance level ever (think also on corp level)
- most of the OPs also supercaps have been built/erected by few individual players rather than by everyone contributing so the rest more or less have been riding bikes all this time
So I doubt the reason would/will be economic. The issue feels more like GS-nature - 'for *** sake we have spent 5 years doing this / could now also take a break or do something different or 'if the owners don't care, we don't either' ...
yea you are right. They cannot afford to stay as a neutral party. They got raped from every side so they may have to join up NC. At the same time, they'll have to maintain diplomatic relations with the alliances that left provi on good terms. Lot of us weren't cap or super cap pilots, we could barely fly properly fit ships but that will change in a years time. So i won't count CVA out just yet.
Don't be obtuse, all large alliances can only field a fraction of their paper numbers. This applies as much to the southern bloc as much as provibloc, and indeed the northern coalition.
Your bitterness is rather pitiable, even most bitter posters like butter dog manage to occasionally be amusing while you're simply pathetic.
I didn't intend to overplay the RP-importance within U'K, rather I was assuming it, and I stand corrected now. Apart from knowing the basic story backgrounds of the 4 empires, every now and then reading a chronicle and knowing a few alliance-names attached to a certain RP side that's all I know about EVE's roleplayers. I brought SF and EM up cause they are they only other pro-minnie alliances I'm aware of next to U'K, disregarding the respective significance of the roleplaying to the alliances' identities, hence the "whatever other entity".
I know CVA was helping out the Amarr Militia in lowsec every now and then, so I was wondering why there wasn't a similar cooperation on the minmatar side in regards to overthrow the Citadel (or if I just missed that).
Either way, thanks for shedding some light onto the subject, likewise to Arkady.
Btw. I endorse the Molden/Republic intel chans; just that the way I'm using them has drastically changed since my GW times with FDN back in '08. ;P
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
Dont really see whats bitter nor pathetic about asking to keep the numbers and information posted a bit real.
"The only winning move is not to play"
Maybe your right :P"The only winning move is not to play"
lol
(oh, and the obligatory lose )
fair warning: lolrp follows.
Something I've noticed is that the RPers in EVE tend to let it go to their heads, the minnie RP team has always been quite fractured and in a way very tribal in the way that we operate, relations between say U'K and EM have never been as good as many of us would want them to be because the alliances tend to do things their own way for their own purposes. Look at the Midular problem, U'K offered a bounty of 1 isk on the head of the republic, whereas EM are very pro-republic. The Amarrian RPers on the other hand are roleplaying being servants to the empire and as a result tend to be far more cohesive, take PIE and CVA for example. Far better relations, very few disagreements on anything.
Cooperation between the Amarrian militia and amarrian rpers is far easier than it is for UK and the tlf, at the start of faction warfare we had a punt at it and it just developed into a bit of a diplomatic shitstorm, good fun for a while but who wants to fight for a corrupt republic anyway?
I didn't say they could field 10,000 pilots at once you silly little retard. I was quoting their total membership count.
If you want to talk about deployed numbers, then ProvidenceBloc used to be able to 600 man fleets with 100 caps. UK can at most deploy 150-200 man fleets on a very good day in EU primetime. So yeah, goes without saying we couldn't have done anything alone. That's what powerful friends are for
Damn who are you in game so I can try to figure why your so mad. Brother its gonna be ok. Take a deep breath and try to calm down please.
Manfred has gotta be like REALLY fucking pissed that everyone says that AAA is shit nowadays.
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
Cippa my darling how are you? Your wizard hat looks very nice today!
I'm fine, thanks. A bit tired, if you will. How about you?
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
From: paik
Sent: 2010.04.14 19:56
To: Against ALL Authorities,
14/04/10
You have 1 week from today to remove any/all assets from the D-G station. After that it will be returned to Paxton Federation.
Roleplaying a super nice guy in internet spaceships. Not much else.
oooooh.... this should be interesting..
This may seem like a ridiculous question, but what will PXF's ROE be in the future? I assume they are not going to stay NRDS going forward. Can anyone from that alliance shed some light on that?
There was a quote from a paxton guy saying that they were sticking with nrds, but he was only a grunt so take that for what its worth. We're still going to shoot them, they're still going to shoot us, so my question is more if they are going to agree to a NIP. I do find it nicely ironic to see the system go back to paxton after all thats happened and with the original deal offered.
D-God Forgives, and Apparently So Does AAA
PXF never wanted the sov war with -A- anyway and were quite vocal about it at the start, they knew it was a bad idea and how it would end, and i think mainly fought for the pew pew.
I know many pilots on both sides of PXF and U'K / -A- had jovial conversations in local during the war, let's be honest if PXF had cut a deal and tried to dump on CVA during the war they would've lost alot of respect they had gained from their red neighbours.
As it stands now, provi has changed, there is a new dynamic and we will all see how it plays out.
well done to UK and -A- and their friends they won no arguments, well done to CVA and friends for sticking by their guns and fighting (at times) for their beliefs, and well done to PXF for generally not giving a damn in the middle and carrying on as normally as they could, roaming, shooting and generally fighting the most out of the Holders.
The stance from the top has been consistently that that PXF is and will remain NRDS. Not sure if it will follow the current mechanics, or if changes will have to be made.
It's not like Manfred was ever in AAA when it was regarded as 'good'.
Your trying to imply that -A- was of relevance once. I cant recall such situation in the last 3 years.
In the sense of doing things their own way, instead of coordinating with allies/different blocks.
All they've really done is backstab and join the strongest alliance in game and then backstabbed to join the next one and killed who? The already dying IAC and removed CVA from some of providence (they still hold a bit of sov but no stations systems).
And what?
Dont particurarly like AAA, as people gloating over killing inferior alliances are retards or fags, not heroes that they try to play.
But if they got away by playing people against each other, and still kicking strong, than they must do something right, or the others something wrong.
Not many alliance switched sides and survived the turmoil, the legacy of AAA still made most people fear and rather attack people around instead of AAA. And thats a good thing what Evil Thug had build up there. As long as AAA is undefeated in major war, there arent many that want to fight alliance with competent russian players, aaa/xdeathx/solar, as those that fight them should write RL off for few months in advance to defeat them.
Whats worse than fight people in odd timezone? Fight dedicated people in odd timezone. Be it Asians, Aussies,Russians or US to some extent, they have huge advantage over Euros.
This is like that 1 time in lord of the rings when...
They aren't kicking strong. They aren't even a shadow of their former selves.
In all fairness, much of the Proviblock holder memberbase were masters of the fail fit. Even though reasonably good fits we're made available to them at all skill levels.
Edit: I still use a lot of PXF fits for frigate and battle-cruiser class ships.
ET doesn't play WoW atm, and you are a bitter faggot
You're damn right. Like I said, I will have revenge for my reaper.ET doesn't play WoW atm, and you are a bitter faggot
It's a rare situation in one's lifetime to meet people who are after his own heart.and you are a bitter faggot
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