Wait you guys still allow personal moons? where do I sign up?
Wait you guys still allow personal moons? where do I sign up?
assuming that you have max skillls, find a tower that you can tank, and its a amarr small (no resists), it would still take you 4+ hours to down the pos, assuming that it wasn't stronted. then you have to kill / scoop all the mods.Originally Posted by JaffaCakes
have fun :P
And that's without setting up and running your own pos.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
running the damn moon takes up a lot of time and really takes away from shit posting, shit talking and shit spinning. I had two alts on the tech moon i had up until a month ago when rzr found it and they were solely dedicated to the moon. oh and btw fuck you rzr give my moon back.
My gripe in general is the personal moons, I've seen our friends in the past do nothing but make money and then have no money when it comes to war mysteriously. I'm not saying this is what will happen with your alliance, i just dislike the whole concept.
As to defending space, almost everyone up north is terrible at it which is why we lose so much space in a comical fashion when attacked. It is not just you, the problem is outside of major coalitions there are too few alliances in all of eve that can hold space on their own. I am not drawing reference to this conflict as the SC have massive numbers and that is what coalitions are for, if MM/Razor didn't come out to defend neighbours who were attacked by similar-sized entities or smaller then we would be alone up North. In the last 3 years I've spent 1.5 months defending Tribute and the rest defending everyone else's space so when I find out they have personal moons it pisses me off to high heaven.
I don't care about the money because I have heaps of my own, but there are a lot of pilots who don't have a lot of money and spend a lot of their time defending territory, they shouldn't be expected to do it just so some people can suck off on the jewgold tit.
Of course we are superior. If I thought my alliance sucked ass and going nowhere then why would I stick around?
Just because this forum is full of faggots who can't string a sentence without it being some dick waving pom pom thrashing shit about whatever political group you represent doesn't make me a spy. I don't blatantly spin. If something is good then I say it is good. If it is bad then I say it is bad. NC does a lot of shit I don't like and while it may be hard to hear, there aren't many entities up to MM's standard up North. If there were then we would be unstoppable.
I'm not arrogant. Most of our enemies have some modicum of respect for my alliance when it comes to pvp ability and ability to defend shit, who else has that same level of respect up north? We aren't interested in meat shields or pets, we want everyone else to rise and be equally as strong, but anyone that suggests that utopia currently exists is kidding themselves.
'You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kaeydan again.'
~~~~GIMMIE +REP+ GIMMIE~~~~
That post is about 90 percent full of shit.
pot kettle black what?
Why are you superior my friend? Is it because youre so good, and others than mm suck or cause you want it to be that way?
- In any coalition, you will have better and worse members. The reason for that is normal evolution and history. MM will "always" better than the alliances it nurtures, as MM will that they are better and have created system that makes it so.
- Economically no other alliance in NC can catch up with you an RZR. So hardly they can get the wealth and cap fleets you accumulated during the years, the industry behind, bpo´s cap bpo´s aetc.
- You dont want that any of your NC members gets to RZR+MM lvl. AS it would endanger your l33t position. Example? Say WI. before implosion in Gem was as close as any of your "pets" to becaome something much better, but was left to die or their most competent corps stripped. Pure Blind was prolly more important than Geminate, but point stand its not about moons, its about human resources and potentional. MH has 0 potentional to become great, WI. had the possibility maybe.
- You control command and fc´s, strategy and most battle,s you decide capital engagements. Most people that want to become really good, leaver NC pet alliances and you suck them out of there as well as its your natural recruiting ground. Now does it work vice versa? Corps from MM would join Looney Toons or people from RZR going to Defiant?
* Every block does it, Atlas takes people from cow/gc, it from bsa/blade/aet/etc, xdeath/solar from ra and so on.
- Thy are ordered what they can asn should do or left to die. Such alliances, corps, members wont grow into strong entitites taht you consider l33t, as good people dont stick in them for too long. Where there is no pride, no healthy ego can exist.
The people fighting in NC outside of MM+RZR fight for you, but the same terms they getting (moons, respect, etc.) is the same they would get if MM = IT or AAA. In order you can be good, they must be worse, and they give you more than they get.
And any second you personally should be gratefull, that it isnt only MM+RZR pilots in fleets, as those are mostly the only ones getting the pride of being better than the others, even though many times they dont deserve it.
Driving in Mercedes S-class around homelesss shelter and telling people they suck, as they had the same opportunity as you did, works only for so long and makes you look as unitelligent idiot.
There are not equal opportunities, and the least you can show, is empathy and respect to those, that arent so l33t, dont have right fit ships, dont play hardcore, dont even understand whats going on but anyway have decided to offer the few hours of their game time to support the leadership of NC.
As they could give a shit and support Vuk Lau´s ego or Sir Molles ego or this AAA dude ego, the coalitions are about these few people, the groups are the same , only the people can wave their dick in game, and feel like gods being able to "lead".
Jesus christ I agree with a Czech Lion post
First time its the hardest, after that the pain gradually disappears and is replaced by sense of ecstasy.Jesus christ I agree with a Czech Lion post
Goonwaffe is the best corp in the NC hth
So basically Czech pulled Kaeydan out of his S-Class, slapped him around and told him to "Now gtfo of here".
I like it.
I never know what to think of kaeydan. He's often pretty sensible, sometimes batshit insane, and always tl;dr.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Yes because we all know that pew pew corps that are amazing are always the first to bail... didnt want them shit corps anyway
why would anyone care, this is a fucking video game for fucks sake, sucking is something to be proud of
why would anyone care, this is a fucking video game for fucks sake, sucking is something to be proud of
takes his video games way to seriously
good allies jump on their friend's corpses to strip them of their top corps
In an unrelated note, is razor involved in anything atm, i haven't heard much of their activity aside from their leadership being worthless or some crap like that.
Corps bail and alliance fall not only because they were shit or were spais, retards, faggots, useless creatures, pets, idiots, manlovers.
Not every group will handle pressure due to economic and organizational reasons as perfectly as the few top dogs. And if offered a better living, fun, deal, wahtever, many people dont play the game (pvp corps or non pvp) to have every day exhaustions and shit going on, they want to relax and enjoy the wealth and comfort of deep pocket entity having "similar" pvpers as well.
Its ofc everyones choice where, when, how he joins. Dont tell me shit, that you want the entities around you to become independent and strong when you dont "effectively" back them up, when the odds are against them, and think that going through fire will make them the l33t groups. It will break them and you know it, as well you know you will invite the better 1/3 of them to your groups and than thrash them on forums, how did they not make it, darwin, useless, etc.
So stop bullshitting here WE WANT THEM TO BECOME SUPERSTRONG ELITE GROUPS LIKE MM+RZR. (this is not done only by NC, but by every block to be fair).
Hey guys we have lost everything, isk, space, caps (WI. ) stick with us, we will get strong again,.....hey guys we offer jewgold, caps, lot of space, and the same fleets as before, join us (RZR).
This breaks morale, as it shows that the lesser leadership shouldnt care less to make a good selfsustainable alliances, but just take renters/tools and send 2-3 men to gangs, its the same outcome in long run. Whats the point to create soemthing better if the moment you get better and become a target of enemy, you will get stripped of your best players (which happens continously from day 1 as well).
I dunno, i think respect is the least they could get for sticking in the wars and fights for you, not for them (as if they would want, IT or Atlas would hand them the space over night if they switched sides). So they believe in you, and follow you even if they arent but trying to be as "good" as you. This war isnt theirs, its yours leadership and IT+rest leadership.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
This is exactly the kind of post I would expect from a member of the SC posting to sew devision in the NC ranks. BFF. The only way to survive is to fight together. We are all flying the same ships and well we are all fighting for each other's space. Your position is so incredibly narcissistic and negative towards your allies on a daily basis that I'm left to conclude that you could be nothing but an SC member. Are you purposefully filling a stereotype of MM so that you can split the NC apart?
It is not going to work, one of your own allies is posting more sense than you are and is being counter-productive towards your cause.
The only negatives that are coming from Razor or Morsus Mihi come not in-game, but from you. You are the only source of any negativity between us BFF. With your unwillingness to post your in-game character (At least not from what I've read) and your singular source of propaganda friendly fire, what is someone supposed to think?
I skip most tl;dr posts usually, I generally +rep them all though since I find it quite impressive for one to have the stamina to write so many words with such consistency for a spaceships game.
~~~~GIMMIE +REP+ GIMMIE~~~~
do you honestly think a few shitposts a day on kugu will split the nc apart?
if he started whiteknighting for mm on MH's forums that would be different.
No.
Do you think propaganda makes a difference?
Czech speaking on the premise that people play EVE to have fun. Well I lol'd anyway
Propaganda makes difference and is main reason anything happens in eve at all and all those "coalitions" exist.
"The pen is mightier than the sword" - rephrased forum is mightier than a 1400mm howitzer
Fun can be other men´s misery despite your own, prolly the biggest reason play at all
Actually Czech Lion is a pretty fine poster, a bit verbose and over-complicating things for the sake of it at times, but a fine poster nevertheless.
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
So you'd +rep Jade Constantine?
I usually end up disagreeing with Czech Lion for six or so months before realizing that he was right (though there are exceptions.) That said I have always thought that the policy of recruiting corps/members from allied groups was a shitty thing to do.
Aha, Alex admitting he was wrong on something. This is a rarity.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Just another quote for posterity.
This is of course true and is one of the northern coalition pets....i think the renter getting all huffy is one of the meat shields getting hit by the IT alliance push. I believe its Razor to the renters in the pure blind region. My source is in one of the smaller renter corps.....and many of them are so angry their leaving the system altogether or are banding together to fight. DO they have much of a chance...No, but the arrival of IT alliance nearby and the treat of a war within is not a positive aspect. most of these corp pay rent but have also upgraded the system and may have not taken to the rent increases are the taking away of their moons
Horrible grammar + no idea what this post is answering to. ("This if of course true" you start with... What is true?) Also Razor has no renters in PB, ours live in Branch.
Well, I think Kaeydan is:
a) playing on a mirrored server, Multiplicity for example
b) very delusional
c) living in a parallel universe that is connected to ours via the interwebs
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
Though Kaeydan is a dipshit, there has been and I assume continues to be friction between RAZOR and RAWR on a leadership level, though mostly minor. Standard allied bullshit things like coordination, IT integration, etc. The only real friction that existed for some time ended after I left, which was the resistance to the change of the relationship between RAWR and RAZOR from equal partners to Razor being a subsidiary of RAWR.
Since RAZOR leadership was transfered to a cabal of three non-PVP personalities, nearly all RAZOR issues that don't revolve around "empire maintenance" (interalliance taxation and wealth redistribution as one example, don't even get me started on that ponzi scheme), RAWR has dictated specifically what RAZOR does in terms of military actions. At one point, the de facto head of RAZOR, the senile grandmother Shizah, actually made this policy when she stated that in times of crisis, RAWR's infrastructure of leadership and FC's would be enough to sustain RAZOR, even going so far as to say that RAZOR should and would take all cues on what to do directly from RAWR personnel.
The fact of the matter is that since the first MAX campaign, for a variety of reasons, the fast majority of the alpha leadership type personalities from RAZOR (TheAdj, Disco, myself [lawl] ), have left, leaving people whose only desire is to maintain the empire to continue their corporate enrichment.
The three people who maintain control of RAZOR are the afore mentioned senile grandmother whose only notable accomplishments ingame include being hoodwinked into the largest ingame corporate theft that I am aware of, a diplomat who was scammed with the Elysium Alliance scam and the Looney Toons technetium fiasco (another incident I've detailed here before), and someone else who I forgot since he didn't play and was completely irrelevant. Long story short, no one in leadership has any experience in pvp or maintaining a campaign other than two junior directors, Sinsation and Kusotarre. Kuso is a pretty cool dude but isn't one to bust his balls to carry a campaign anymore (he lost an erebus during the first MAX campaign to the warp disruption bubble bug), and Sinsation is a scheming spergy faggot who before quitting during Delve War 2 (right after Kenzoku captured 49-U), advocated Razor's withdrawal from Querious and admitting the campaign's defeat.
So, since the majority of RAZOR leadership is only concerned with maintaining the corporate level isk faucets and the other benefits of empire maintenance, any "friction" between RAWR and RAZOR is simply white noise, since RAWR is now and has been for some months been in control of what RAZOR does and why, at RAZOR's behest.
There's obviously more to these stories, but since half of you are getting to call me bitter, and the other half are retards, I don't really feel like fleshing them out.
TL/DR Kaeydan is still a retard, some of what he said was vaguely true but as I was the primary agitator amongst the drama, I'm fairly certain none exists any longer outside of standard alliance bullshit.
Man, I haven't ranted about RAZOR in forever
Also RAWR's "standards" have been and continue to be in the same category as IT's: Utter Shit.
You have traderjohn in a leadership position, and continue to give Mostly Harmless FC's operation control of strategic objectives like R64 defense.
The average member of RAWR will not log on for a combat operation if it entails anything not within 1-2 titan bridges of H-W.
During the Querious war, RAWR took the easy excuse to abandon the campaign when Tri shot up some of their moons. The moral decrease of them leaving (along with the stellar alliance TCF) to goons was worse than the actual consequences though, as their only contribution on a regular basis was Imperian hac gangs that accomplished nothing but K/D.
For most of the final month RAWR was in delve, they were stationed in an npc system by themselves, causing untold frustration to fleet coordination and the implementation of the defense of the region, since no one with a brain had the "authority" to make a decision to move.
So forgive me for telling you to get over yourself Kaeydan, but being marginally better than Mostly Harmless and TCF does not make your alliance :elite:
WALL OF TEXT
I haven't called you bitter yet, does that mean I'm part of the retard-faction? *sad-puppy-eyes*Though Kaeydan is a dipshit, there has been and I assume continues to be friction between RAZOR and RAWR on a leadership level, though mostly minor. Standard allied bullshit things like coordination, IT integration, etc. The only real friction that existed for some time ended after I left, which was the resistance to the change of the relationship between RAWR and RAZOR from equal partners to Razor being a subsidiary of RAWR.
Since RAZOR leadership was transfered to a cabal of three non-PVP personalities, nearly all RAZOR issues that don't revolve around "empire maintenance" (interalliance taxation and wealth redistribution as one example, don't even get me started on that ponzi scheme), RAWR has dictated specifically what RAZOR does in terms of military actions. At one point, the de facto head of RAZOR, the senile grandmother Shizah, actually made this policy when she stated that in times of crisis, RAWR's infrastructure of leadership and FC's would be enough to sustain RAZOR, even going so far as to say that RAZOR should and would take all cues on what to do directly from RAWR personnel.
The fact of the matter is that since the first MAX campaign, for a variety of reasons, the fast majority of the alpha leadership type personalities from RAZOR (TheAdj, Disco, myself [lawl] ), have left, leaving people whose only desire is to maintain the empire to continue their corporate enrichment.
The three people who maintain control of RAZOR are the afore mentioned senile grandmother whose only notable accomplishments ingame include being hoodwinked into the largest ingame corporate theft that I am aware of, a diplomat who was scammed with the Elysium Alliance scam and the Looney Toons technetium fiasco (another incident I've detailed here before), and someone else who I forgot since he didn't play and was completely irrelevant. Long story short, no one in leadership has any experience in pvp or maintaining a campaign other than two junior directors, Sinsation and Kusotarre. Kuso is a pretty cool dude but isn't one to bust his balls to carry a campaign anymore (he lost an erebus during the first MAX campaign to the warp disruption bubble bug), and Sinsation is a scheming spergy faggot who before quitting during Delve War 2 (right after Kenzoku captured 49-U), advocated Razor's withdrawal from Querious and admitting the campaign's defeat.
So, since the majority of RAZOR leadership is only concerned with maintaining the corporate level isk faucets and the other benefits of empire maintenance, any "friction" between RAWR and RAZOR is simply white noise, since RAWR is now and has been for some months been in control of what RAZOR does and why, at RAZOR's behest.
There's obviously more to these stories, but since half of you are getting to call me bitter, and the other half are retards, I don't really feel like fleshing them out.
TL/DR Kaeydan is still a retard, some of what he said was vaguely true but as I was the primary agitator amongst the drama, I'm fairly certain none exists any longer outside of standard alliance bullshit.
Man, I haven't ranted about RAZOR in forever
Good post nontheless.
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
It's a phreeze post
but it's not a troll
I'm lost
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Maybe I'm still sleeping but that was a nice post from phreeze. Never thought I'd see him ranting at the NC.
EVE fail pilot since 06.
He's been ranting on the NC since 2 weeks before he left RZR.
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
Honestly Phreeze, these forums can be downright CAOD'ish in regards to how people respond to quality insight about alliances. If you have more to say I know more than me would be interested to read it.Though Kaeydan is a dipshit, there has been and I assume continues to be friction between RAZOR and RAWR on a leadership level, though mostly minor. Standard allied bullshit things like coordination, IT integration, etc. The only real friction that existed for some time ended after I left, which was the resistance to the change of the relationship between RAWR and RAZOR from equal partners to Razor being a subsidiary of RAWR.
Since RAZOR leadership was transfered to a cabal of three non-PVP personalities, nearly all RAZOR issues that don't revolve around "empire maintenance" (interalliance taxation and wealth redistribution as one example, don't even get me started on that ponzi scheme), RAWR has dictated specifically what RAZOR does in terms of military actions. At one point, the de facto head of RAZOR, the senile grandmother Shizah, actually made this policy when she stated that in times of crisis, RAWR's infrastructure of leadership and FC's would be enough to sustain RAZOR, even going so far as to say that RAZOR should and would take all cues on what to do directly from RAWR personnel.
The fact of the matter is that since the first MAX campaign, for a variety of reasons, the fast majority of the alpha leadership type personalities from RAZOR (TheAdj, Disco, myself [lawl] ), have left, leaving people whose only desire is to maintain the empire to continue their corporate enrichment.
The three people who maintain control of RAZOR are the afore mentioned senile grandmother whose only notable accomplishments ingame include being hoodwinked into the largest ingame corporate theft that I am aware of, a diplomat who was scammed with the Elysium Alliance scam and the Looney Toons technetium fiasco (another incident I've detailed here before), and someone else who I forgot since he didn't play and was completely irrelevant. Long story short, no one in leadership has any experience in pvp or maintaining a campaign other than two junior directors, Sinsation and Kusotarre. Kuso is a pretty cool dude but isn't one to bust his balls to carry a campaign anymore (he lost an erebus during the first MAX campaign to the warp disruption bubble bug), and Sinsation is a scheming spergy faggot who before quitting during Delve War 2 (right after Kenzoku captured 49-U), advocated Razor's withdrawal from Querious and admitting the campaign's defeat.
So, since the majority of RAZOR leadership is only concerned with maintaining the corporate level isk faucets and the other benefits of empire maintenance, any "friction" between RAWR and RAZOR is simply white noise, since RAWR is now and has been for some months been in control of what RAZOR does and why, at RAZOR's behest.
There's obviously more to these stories, but since half of you are getting to call me bitter, and the other half are retards, I don't really feel like fleshing them out.
TL/DR Kaeydan is still a retard, some of what he said was vaguely true but as I was the primary agitator amongst the drama, I'm fairly certain none exists any longer outside of standard alliance bullshit.
Man, I haven't ranted about RAZOR in forever
not sure if serious
I am serious.
I want to know the story behind the fights, I see wars I want to know why they happen. I want for this forum to serve a purpose, explain in detail why what is happening happened. Isn't this the point of a EVE politics forum?
Quality information about EVE's politics isn't just about posting their forum porn. Everyone seems to focus on the negative aspects a bit too much, both negative and positive have their places but only together do they show the truth. People can call Phreeze bitter all day long but I am not interested in that, I am interested in reading what he has to say about things he is willing to tell us, even if it is not of use to me at the moment this forum is like a digital news paper, I can look it up later for research. Say someday I wanted to do a "Great Captains" profile. People like Phreeze (who is a decent FC) would be able fill in some of the research I would need to do because I could look back on what has been posted.
Myself I don't know how to do interviews as I've had no chance to add to my journalistic skills, is this site worthy of having real journalistic work done for it in regards to the political figures and landscape?
I have a lot of questions, and I hope what I post is seen as sincere. You can be lost in anger, contempt, or bitterness but really it just takes away from the real good stuff. Approaching EVE like it is supposed to be fun is rewarding. The game can warrant hard work because there are stories to tell.
This is why I read kugu, good rant PhreezeThough Kaeydan is a dipshit, there has been and I assume continues to be friction between RAZOR and RAWR on a leadership level, though mostly minor. Standard allied bullshit things like coordination, IT integration, etc. The only real friction that existed for some time ended after I left, which was the resistance to the change of the relationship between RAWR and RAZOR from equal partners to Razor being a subsidiary of RAWR.
Since RAZOR leadership was transfered to a cabal of three non-PVP personalities, nearly all RAZOR issues that don't revolve around "empire maintenance" (interalliance taxation and wealth redistribution as one example, don't even get me started on that ponzi scheme), RAWR has dictated specifically what RAZOR does in terms of military actions. At one point, the de facto head of RAZOR, the senile grandmother Shizah, actually made this policy when she stated that in times of crisis, RAWR's infrastructure of leadership and FC's would be enough to sustain RAZOR, even going so far as to say that RAZOR should and would take all cues on what to do directly from RAWR personnel.
The fact of the matter is that since the first MAX campaign, for a variety of reasons, the fast majority of the alpha leadership type personalities from RAZOR (TheAdj, Disco, myself [lawl] ), have left, leaving people whose only desire is to maintain the empire to continue their corporate enrichment.
The three people who maintain control of RAZOR are the afore mentioned senile grandmother whose only notable accomplishments ingame include being hoodwinked into the largest ingame corporate theft that I am aware of, a diplomat who was scammed with the Elysium Alliance scam and the Looney Toons technetium fiasco (another incident I've detailed here before), and someone else who I forgot since he didn't play and was completely irrelevant. Long story short, no one in leadership has any experience in pvp or maintaining a campaign other than two junior directors, Sinsation and Kusotarre. Kuso is a pretty cool dude but isn't one to bust his balls to carry a campaign anymore (he lost an erebus during the first MAX campaign to the warp disruption bubble bug), and Sinsation is a scheming spergy faggot who before quitting during Delve War 2 (right after Kenzoku captured 49-U), advocated Razor's withdrawal from Querious and admitting the campaign's defeat.
So, since the majority of RAZOR leadership is only concerned with maintaining the corporate level isk faucets and the other benefits of empire maintenance, any "friction" between RAWR and RAZOR is simply white noise, since RAWR is now and has been for some months been in control of what RAZOR does and why, at RAZOR's behest.
There's obviously more to these stories, but since half of you are getting to call me bitter, and the other half are retards, I don't really feel like fleshing them out.
TL/DR Kaeydan is still a retard, some of what he said was vaguely true but as I was the primary agitator amongst the drama, I'm fairly certain none exists any longer outside of standard alliance bullshit.
Man, I haven't ranted about RAZOR in forever
Oh and if we all promise to not call you bitter for say, a week? could you please do "flesh them out"?
I thought I'd share with everyone that I had a dream that I was making out with a chick then she said had a surprise and pulled out her dick which was bigger than mine
his dick which was bigger*
its not gay if it still hurts
i too am +1ing so that people don't read the phreeze post oh god don't read it don't scroll up.
THE GREATEST POSTER
This has absolutely nothing to do with the thread, it will however distract you from reading Phreezes post
NC aren't under enough pressure yet for there to be serious Drama, but when the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other.
Not Dead, Just Sleeping
Nice point well made Phreeze - when I was in NC high command just under two years ago it was still the same with Razor vs MM only then Razor didn't know they were the ones under control and now they do. Information and sharing it is why I read this forum.
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