Should make things a bit more interesting for the in curse and going to curse crews.
Should make things a bit more interesting for the in curse and going to curse crews.
aj you will never stop to amuse me
Props to Bobby for that withdrawal post. Aside it being a good decision, a decision that should of been done after the battle of NCGR or long before, it shows his alliance, and the rest of us k.com readers, that Bobby is still living in reality and can capably make decisions for the best interests of his alliance.
The AJ Regard guy who said IT is going to keep fighting by itself (I'm not sure if he represents the full views IT alliance?), that is an example of someone who, unlike Bobby, is not living in reality and is no longer capable of making decisions in the best interest. That statement makes me think they got some pretty powerful brain toxin in the water over there in the IT camp and delusional behavior is now fully manifested.
I hope this is not the final humiliation of Molle as someone worthy of internet spaceship respect. Everyone deserves a chance to farm IT.
I can't tell who is worse. Blast, or IT?
Discuss.
Also, just gonna quote a chatlog I posted in the last thread.
Looks like I was right?[ 2010.05.03 18:05:58 ] goonfriend > so DrewIW, how long till you think Atlas/AAA/IT/etc reset each other?
?[ 2010.05.03 18:06:30 ] DrewIW > as soon as we start seeing supercap losses in the north
?[ 2010.05.03 18:06:40 ] DrewIW > that's when the blame is going to start flying, and shit will break down
IT because their numbers give them a false sense of confidence.
So you're saying that IT Alliance is the new Bruce?
IT is BoB without TWD, no skillpoint or economic advantage and 5500 pubbies -- worse than Bruce.
well, atlas was the first to bail on the last attempt of Tri and now on MAX 2.0... well i guess they are taking AAA heads up.
**The use of nuclear weapons has been authorized**
TBH, as much as we in the North want to point fingers and laugh at the silly tactics, strange FC decisions etc, you gotta put some of this at the feet of CCP. Why any large alliance would want to launch itself headlong into massive fleet fights given the current lag/node issues is beyond me. As stated earlier, the defenders have almost all of the advantages. Defenders dictate the time of the r/f of sov units, have shorter lines of supply and need to only win one round to reset the whole shebang.
Of course, the SC flailing about miserably while losing Supercaps didn't hurt.
Now all we in the north need to do is crab a pint and some popcorn and wait for resets to start down south and yes there will be resets
There will be no resets.
Fixed that for ya...Originally Posted by Xunasy
so if the south resets and starts fighting each other the north will no longer need to be the naptastic lovefest it is and will do the same right?
I'm guessing it will be 6 weeks before this forum will swing back to anti-NC mode, trying to cheer somebody, anybody, to invade the Northern Lovefest.
Sadly with Bobby's statements the only thing we can expect are Tri like raids from Atlas, so if IT and ROL don't do it nobody will.
There's nothing to justify... Molle is a terrible campaign leader who put his allies assets in unnecessary risk. HW was a disaster, and you (IT) should take the full blame. So Bobby could be making it all up, he's still right. It's a slam dunk type of decision: despite all the spin and ~gf~ you can muster, you're losing the war.
Home, sweet home!
Our beloved Bobby is 120% right - IT with their retarded FCs can go fuck themselfes.
I even managed to get my Moros out todayNever wonna watch north again.
Good day today i say
there was never an anti-nc mode, this forum still has a slant towards more NC/gewns/pl posters than SC posters, so even if the entire of eve was hating on the NC for still being all ~BFF~ people would still try to justify it on here.
Bobby's mail was like a blue sky after a 2 month monsoon. No one has had fun in this war. We didnt even show up in the first place. The game atm is a joke, sov system, blob warfare, all of it sucks. Why we still do it? Cause we know no other way. Its human nature and this game has conditioned us.
Props NC for standing tall, your still here for a good reason. Cya next time. o/
I just want to ask what people think will happen to IT Alliance if the leadership of IT decide that the best way forward is to stay up north, and claw out some kind of victory before calling it a day, and handing it over to the nearby locals?
It already seem like IT have ruined any further chances at a "southern coalition" with atlas. Which (if Bobbys mail is anything to go by) could have been avoided had the SC pulled out before the H-W fiasco.
If this is how far IT have to go to alienate their allies, how much further do they have to go to alienate their membership?
(also I'll get grief for saying this, coz of the whole WI grr thing about atlas, but w/e I wasn't with WI when all that went down, - it seems that time and time again your prudent leadership considers the membership which is alot more then can be said for other alliances)
With most of the active IT supercaps down south and Atlas/CoW/GC packing their stuff and going home, what are the chances of seeing more than 20 NC titans on tower killmails? :>
This forum was pretty anti NC lovefest last summer, when PL was trying out their special resets.
Everybody knows that Atlas didnt win because of their skills but because they where thought off less than Tri.
Not much of a victory
and they still conquered geminate. thats even less of an impressive defense
Absolutely right. The defence was worse than the attack. That's why the attackers won and we lost in that instance.and they still conquered geminate. thats even less of an impressive defense
Indeed. Most of NC went to PB to have some BFF party with MH and secure our assets. So Geminate didn't have the priority. Vale also. This time we where home and you saw how it ended for Atlas.
AJ Regard isn't delusional he's just constitutionally incapable of admitting anything negative about IT, i'm sure he realizes that IT is in a hopeless position now re: the north but he'll be damned if he gives those NC/PL/goonie fuckers on kugu the satisfaction of seeing him admit defeat, so he'll insult bobby and spin like a top (once things get so obvious even his considerable spin talents are exhausted, he'll just stop posting entirely until the next IT offensive)
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Can't say I am surprised, you don't need to be Nostradamus to see how this is going to play out. The interesting part is now what becomes of the SC. The politics of EVE is the real interesting element and it is now that the real games will be played. We might see more carnage caused by words than by capital fleets.
It's more like
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bobby looked at the situation, saw that it was fucked and pulled us out. This was a war i wanted but between participation issues in all the alliances and server shit, it wasnt possible.
I gave up trying to put positive spin for us a couple weeks ago and anyone saying they are shocked by our decision is a retard. I'll admit his words about IT were a little too harsh. They have a lot of good pilots but molles horrible plan kinda taints the alliance. There were so many problems with the plan since the start and it continued to get worse. Also booby doesnt like IT very much for a couple reasons and i think the reason he signed off on it was our friendship with -A-. Despite the shit you faggots spew about -A-, they are good allies and was a pleasure doing joint ops up north.
Was a fun fight though NC, I enjoyed it and maybe we will come visit again. Will probably be just Atlas/cow/GC in hacs hitting vale for the lolz but will have to wait till the server is more stable. I love fighting outnumbered but its just plain impossible in the north atm.
His words about IT were pretty much spot on, they lost atlas a titan, rol a titan, -A- 4 supercarriers, and cow a terribly fitted aeon. If you ever attempt another invasion for the love of god make sure molle is not at the wheel. The old bob is long dead, and molle is finally realising what happens when your alliance gets their morale crushed.
To be fair the ROL titan was more related to ROL's own attacks on PB prior to this war. It cannot be attributed to IT.
Everyones failures during the war can be attributed to IT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoating
DrewIW you are absolutely horrible,
burning your Atlas char to post some alliance mails
Looks like NC just killed a large (staging?) tower in X-70.
Now, I realize that killing a tower isn't a big deal, but I don't believe that we have been able to do that since the start of this campaign. Somewhat of an indicator to resistance.
Umm..what?
NC has been killing towers left and right..we tend to do them in groups.
or are you referring to killing stuff in X-70? Because we've been doing that the entire conflict too....
Edit: To be fair, it's been "tower swapping fun" with the SC..they kill our tower..they put up a tower..we kill their tower..we put up a tower..they kill our tower..etc..etc..
Edit Edit: Which is a much better sov system than this current steaming pile btw.
You can say what you want, we went into geminate with a clear objective to have fun, we had fuckloads of fun in and around geminate, NC showed up for two straight weeks fighting for it tooth and nail before more or less abandoning WI and showing up half assed for another two weeks till WI realized what was going on and packed there shit. At the end of the day you allowed an unprecedented fostering of relations between ATLAS, Solar & RA -- who would have thought a year ago that ATLAS , Solar & RA would have a working relationship, however questionable it might be at times.
GF Phreeze & Fred0.
This Molle Ego Trip NC Campaign , cluster fuck, hands down we got spanked most of the time and I did what I thought was best for my alliance and membership, nothing more to it. If I thought for a minute that someone competent could salvage it, even myself, I would, but its a cluster fuck trying to work with IT when its there way or nothing attitude.
Edit: No we didnt jump ship on Tri MK2, we came to geminate with our own objectives and through the process worked with TRI & friends to achieve them. When we were done with geminate and things started to go tits up with TRI & friends, always having to fly 30 jumps to help them, it became apparent where things were going -- especially with all the bitch fit fighting that started to break out in command channels with Tri -- that there PB campaign was numbered.
So this confirms one thing, and we have all known it.
Molle is now going to learn that he is no longer the dominant power in this game. Internet spaceship politics are the best.
DVRN is leaving Atlas, the character had become useless.DrewIW you are absolutely horrible,
burning your Atlas char to post some alliance mails
Can you copy paste for us at work crew.DVRN is leaving Atlas, the character had become useless.
DVRN is leaving Atlas, the character had become useless.
That was the best way you could think of to burn your bridges?
Not Dead, Just Sleeping
can we assume its not because of you leaking info?DVRN is leaving Atlas, the character had become useless.
It has literally nothing to do with me. The character just got caught in a bad position because DVRN leadership is really stupid.
Oh well. Use PMs if you want to discuss it further.
DVRN asked us about joining few days ago and got rejected.
(no troll)
The NC didn't go to PB until Geminate was all but lost. Geminate didn't have a priority, it was left to the wolves.
ALMOST makes me miss the tower Sov system. (Dominion sov DOES make me miss tower Sov =( )
Also, I don't know why everyone keeps coming back to the Geminate campaign. It's been argued to death. It's been stated that ATLAS wasn't in a position to mount a continued Sov war against the North at the time. No, I'm not saying they were better prepared a few months ago either but to delude yourselves that ATLAS had the intention of or ability too push core NC sov just after conquering Geminate is insanity. There will always be the people who constantly fail to understand the amount of planning and logistics that needs to take place before you attack Sov. Hell, when we first attacked Geminate we didn't even plan on holding as many moons as we did and left Tech moons un-towered due to not having supplies for it in place. ATLAS didn't want to HAVE to take sov, it just ended up giving us the best fights. In the end, we just gave the region to someone else because we didn't want to grind through anymore structures. Why is this SO hard for people to understand?
Everyone loves fighting outnumbered on the forums
H. Ratli Smirks: Always outnumbered, never outposted
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