Razzor whooping out the serious posting, and doing just fine.
For anyone thinking that seducing TEST with e-friendships and BF3 is ridiculous, you clearly have no idea how far meta-gaming goes in EvE.
I'm not saying that's what they're doing, or even thought of doing, but it wouldn't be beyond some people in PL (or Goons for that matter).
And seriously, who cares? In fact, it's the perfect move for everyone. You get to fuck with someone in EvE by playing a bunch of other games and socializing with some nice people.
I'd join a Grath fleet vs. MM, no problem, if I could be bothered to log in.
Which brings us to the only winning move in EvE, which is not to play.
the PL BF3 thing isn't really about seducing test at a guess, they had the same attitude to people joining and playing BC2 (rip) with them.
I love it when Pandemic Legion talks dirty to me. Zagdul, send more fleets to Fountain please - I don't think you guys would even undock on most of Saturday.
Every time Mittani says 'wormtonguing' I just picture some sort of fucked up rimjob involving earthworms, rep to whoever finds a video of it.
Since my attention of any of this 'situation' began with Xutech linking me one of your posts that started at "Mittani wants Delve" and went into conspiracy land in the Pee Ell thread, I'm more inclined to believe my sources.
You seem to have freaked out for me 'ignoring' this post and doubleposted about how this just proves your 'point'; I just woke up about an hour ago. More conspiracy!
you hear that guys, Mittani has puppet mastered us again :ugh:
*makes a couple wild accusations about the evils of PL OG mumble*
*gets penif to post 5 sentences*
*gets grath to post 7 sentences*
*is smug as shit*
anyway there's an obvious shift in pl discourse about test that began as soon as they joined the delve mess, shortly after the supercap nerf was announced. on eve-o, grath maintains that the supercap nerf is already dangerous and titan tracking shouldn't be touched; on SA penif tryhards about how titan guns will still own goonie pubbie direkkktorate nubs, while ordo garr howls about 'the blob'.
couple of weeks ago test was getting slagged for being 'goonie pets' and 'pubbies', etc. i can't blame PL for doing what they're doing, but i can point and laugh. test are great allies, i'd try to split them off too, particularly if i was in PL's position
I'm totally fucking up this grath mittens penif combo
how did Mittani figure out that OG mumble's purpose is to split the Deklein coalition in half. we were planning on moving into 6vdt and splitting fountain Neo moons with Montolio in exchange for protection. thwarted!
Also we've been having preset fights with TEST for about 9 months now, but its nice to see your so out of touch you didn't even fucking know how well we always have gotten along. We've had some TEST guys on roams before now too, but hey, sit there in your bunker and marry your cousin about it.
My highsec suicide ganking days have been and gone yo.
perhaps we're all deluded here; grath thinks that i give many fucks about delve, i think pl is trying to wormtongue test so they can get subcap backing in a post-supernerf environment, and there's a simple innocent explanation for everything
oh wait who tried to destroy my coalition and take my homeland a mere three months ago?
There are only actually handful of TEST members that work with PL. The greater body (and I do mean greater) of the alliance thinks they are evil and coming to take our space. If anything were to actually happen between the two entities, PL would pick up a few new dudes. Only three or four of which are actually alright at this game.
I can be bought for hookers and blow PL, wormtongue me and let's get this shit moving. tia
it's almost like the kind of person in a clusterfuck alliance who wants to join pl is a small minority greatly at odds with the greater culture
i mean if this was a major threat we'd act in a more obvious way, like trying to ban people from joining pl fleets or whatever, but pointing and laughing is the way to go (oh man i can't wait to go hang out with ordo garr, sign me up)
EDIT also I'm not sure what this 'joining pl' shit is about, we're hanging out, thats it, we don't filch members like that and you know it, anybody from TEST or any other alliance generally ends up doing a stay in waffles.
You know that, like you know that we're led by FC's, so that when VFK was attacked, it was done by an FC, who no longer plays the game. But go on and be bitter about somebody who's not here anymore, its kind of cute.
He must really have pissed you off, getting your fleet participation up like he did and all.
technically people have been using the 'crazy ex-girlfriend who follows us around and wants to fuck us and/or kill us' joke about pl
anyway if you want to extract yourselves from a quagmire great, i'll stop giving a shit once your joiners and your mannys and your penifs have their big shiny toys nerfed into the ground and we'll go invade something completely unrelated to pl (to which i assume you will not follow, as you are absolutely not the stalker ex)
I guess we'll continue laughing at your deluded fantasies about the metagaming motives of PL and its bf3 squad. You don't sound crazy or stupid or anything nope vOv
In walks Gicer 2 hours after the party
yes, yes I'm fucking mad you play apb and nobody will play lol with me. Wanna fight about it ?
Also you should probably come on comms and chase off all your goons from the BF3 channel so they don't get converted.
Your like the fun police, in high gear, and its awesome to watch.
Pro Tip: How do i know your full of shit?
I don't use the word liar or evil, I'd have called you a dumb nigger.
Sorry mate, I was just reading this giant pile of diversionary words from penif on SA.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
go get em champ :'(
there's a population of gamers that really /needs/ to be in 'the best' clan, corp, or organization. these guys float from org to org in order to ensure that they can feel good about being with the most elite crew. the 'most elite' crew in eve changes every few years; it was once m0o, then bob, then probably some shit like outbreak, and now it's pee ell.
(this is not to say that these entities are 'identical' to one another, i'm not shadoo making a 'new bob' joke, merely that there's this population and it chases 'the best' like a starfucker after a celebrity)
anyway joiners are dangerous because they have no real loyalty but will wrap themselves in the flag of the joined entity and usually make a mess of things. in the pl case your prime example is manny. the enthusiasm of the convert, etc
i think it's a pretty fascinating demographic as the joiners are the sworn enemy of new, unskilled players, as the joiners define themselves by their not-new-ness. so historically goonswarm is typically opposed by whichever group has the biggest collection of 0.0 joiners.
note that there are, ofc, various flavors of joiner; your 'nonsov elite pvp' guys will probably go for hydra or outbreak, but your 'hardened nullsec warrior' guys are going to go for bob/pl, your 'best pirate' guys will chase veto or R&K or whoever's king shit of the lowsec poop mountain
goonswarm makes a lot of money off joiners because if they're deluded enough to think goonswarm is 'the best' for whatever dumb reason they're deluded enough to give us everything they own in a recruitment scam.
i've been mulling writing a column about the joiner demographic so yeah
anyway i'd be absolutely delighted if i'm wrong about all of this and pee ell isn't doing anything sinister! that means my people are safe and i can go back to blowing up barges and camping gates.
A long time ago PL and Goons were friends. PL was still the same bunch of elite faggots they are now, if only smaller, but Goons, goons were fun. They had fun in EVE, they mad fun of everything, and generally were a breath of fresh air to hang out with.
Now your bitter assholes who have literally gone serious business since Kartoon didn't pay the bills then stole everything that wasn't bolted down.
Along comes TEST, who are, everything you were, and we like that. We've been playing so close to forever that seeing newbies in action is fun as shit. I led 50 dudes against about 80, raped fucking face, and a good half of my fleet were guys less than a year old. Fuck Lorren Canada was in a rifter the whole time just owning like a boss.
They don't care, they make fun of shit, they have fun in the game still and EVE isn't some giant fucking ordeal they suffer through like Goons now do, where no joke is funny unless they play it first.
I wouldn't take them out of that environment into this one for all the money in the world. I like TEST because its fucking TEST, and if I pulled anybody out of TEST into PL they'd just become gigantic fucking faggots like the rest of my alliance.
Can't we just get Delve or some new war into high gear? Stagnation is the real killer here, I find myself wishing for some catastrophic event in the EvE status quo just so I can justify the subscription to myself.
Uh oh..this is like the tense months before world war 2...all penis waving nothing happening..
I'm gonna go out on a limb here but if PL was looking to boost subcap numbers and form some super coalition they:
1. Wouldn't pick TEST
2. Would just say it and not play hard to get for a fucking year
3. Don't need it anyways since people pay for them to join a coalition for a campaign, not the other way around.
Tl;dr Mittens has an article deadline and needs to make up material to fit his hypothesis.
If you kill enough of them they stop fighting - Gen. Curtis Lemay
Fear the KKM
guess you get to find out if my next column has anything to do with pl!
Like the Battle of Adowa was an 'attack' by the Italians?
(Sorry, I'm bored writing my dissertation :|)
I mean we could attack the DRF, but we'd need friends, like always, and lets be honest, Goons aren't ever going to use supers in actual combat due to the potential morale loss (let me tell you about the kick in the nuts that is 7 titans dying at once) so they can't ever be 'that guy'.
The only goonish people left are TEST. And this dude seems pretty mad about it.
if pl had responded to my side comment about them on SA with 'you r dum lol' i'd be seriously reconsidering my analysis but the complete spergout (and penif dropping his gimmick and posting in complete sentences to argue seriously on pl's behalf) pretty much just confirms everything i suspected
~puppetmasta~, but unironic