Veno, don't forget the other side
http://rax.vidin.hu/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25129
U were pretty much runing.
Veno, don't forget the other side
http://rax.vidin.hu/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25129
U were pretty much runing.
I guess they were but I wasnt really there so can hardly comment.
And yea, I dont deny we get owned from time to time, like when engaging fleet twice as large as ours in frig sized ships obviously :3
Update time!
Things are getting settled in Fountain. NPC core is getting bit less populated, BLAST moved to their own constellation mostly and other IT pets are already settled in their own. From our point of view things are going pretty well, there are targets constantly around fountain and we have pretty much all BLAST farming systems (including their home system) in range of black ops drops and bridging on top of their ratters and miners never gets old.
BLAST recently absorbed few very promising new corporations, some of which I dont know (Cosmic Cimmerians, Imperial Forces) and some which I do know (Sacred Templars, ex- FOFF / ex-Atropos keke). With that, they are on their way to be one of the most bloated and generally most useless alliances around here (considering their size and ambitions).
Right now, they are pretty much at 2300 members (about trippled or quadrupled size in 2 months).
Now from the recent news. In pursuit of some weirdo experiments we anchored / onlined throw-away minmatar deathstar in YZ system in NPC Fountain core (one of the main crossroads). The POS was more or less a test and we just wanted to have some fun with the force that will come take it down (pos gunning is one of the best fun activities in eve imo). However whole pos was fitted for close range rape and BLAST came together with HUN yesterday around 19:00 eve time with bunch of sniping dreads (+ few moms and carriers) and buttloads of support (200 people in fleet? +-).
With the caps out of range of pos, we did only few bombing runs and killed SHITLOADS of fighters (70-80+ easy, we were bombing the swarm orbiting pos mods) + bomber some light tackle in the gatecamps on various YZ gates. POS was stronted into deep us TZ (04:30 AM tomorrow +-) and we will see how that one goes.
Report from the other side:
Obviously BLAST liked it as well, although I would argue about the number of caps (there were less on the battlefield than mentioned here) and dead fighters (it wasnt just a few).Originally Posted by Ahrpad
If anyone is interested in a hot drop, gimme a yell :3
(we can even provide the bridging in case you are too lazy)
BLAST & HUN suck big time, HUNs are a bit better than BLAST but still. Remember the fights in WY and I-C, while they were trying to kill the SoT towers there, lost good chunk of ships while trying to reinforce them ( including some caps ). Finaly when SoT didn't manage to set up the timer for US prime they managed to get IT to help them to kill the tower in WY. And even then it was really close fight, the tower was ~46% repped ( saturday right after DT ) when they jumped in with 60+ caps and 40 or so support. If it wasn't for IT they would of never got those towers, with good number of gunners and dictors...naturally. On a side note, they do have some US TZ numbers so be prepared.
Ah ha, so you were the dudes who dropped that bait pos YZ- that provided us much fun tonight.
Would you say it went rather well for you![]()
Well, our true colors are showing it seems:
Originally Posted by Some random BLAST dude on their forums
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
Just noticed your KB, good job I might say very good indeed. If I re-sub one day I might apply to GK Lite.
I always assume when people write in such broken English that they are not native English speakers, but sometimes they use the correct slang and memes![]()
LOL, the Chinese farmers come to check this nice post. Just a bit confused alliance name as we are also called Pandas (refer to Panda Supremacy). :PWe are killing Fountain renters, SoT's, some unfortunate PL guy from time to time, Fountain roamers, chineese farmers and pretty much anyone who comes close to Fountain
GL hunting around.
LOL at that blast guy on their forums. Thats some quality crying.
Dont they know that BLAST is just another failpet with failcorps and failpeople installed into a failregion which has little to no value?
The fact that they recruited pretty much every shit corp made in eve in the last 2ish years would make it obvious to pretty much anyone, exept for them it seems.
What makes me giggle is that their talking about having nearly 200 in fleet during what, late euro? but cant get enough people together to combat in the halfway-US tz. It wouldnt have mattered if IT would have shown or not. Alliance chat had less then 120 people in it at that point, and most of were sitting in highsec looking for gankable freighters.
Quite entertaining that the pets dont know their pets, and expect their masters to show up in a TZ they practicaly have no activity in.
I doubt we could have motivated the few people that were on into doing something in fountain. On that IT is no different then BOB was. Pets are Pets, and they are useless and replaceable. Id figure BLAST woulda figured out they are useless by now, next step is understanding what a Pet is
Edit: Im willing to bet a odd couple of bill on when BLAST disbands and/or gets removed from IT's naplist.
The fact BLAST is bloated and for most part completely useless is pretty obvious to anyone outside of their alliance. Just as mentioned, the recently joined corps are pretty standard "filler" for shitty alliances and have great experience with that.
On the other hand, I am fairly sure BLAST wont failcascade over this and also that IT wont reset them in near future. Because simply enough, they dont have anyone to replace them. HUN's are way better than BLAST imo, but they dont have the numbers and tz coverage. Talos alliance, no idea, but they seemed fairly useless and rather small. Aeternus / Blade? Shrug, didnt see much of those yet either.
IT needs someone in Fountain to cover that side of Delve and unless they can get allied with some semi-competent alliance to actually take over Fountain, BLAST is the best what they can get.
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
And who's to say having some proper PvP circus type of affair going on in Fountain is a bad thing, especially if you're looking to separate the wheat from the chaff and recruit some of the more competent people from those resident alliances?
At my grunt's level view I don't see people much caring what happens in Fountain as long as the R64s are left alone. The IT corps living in Fountain is another matter of course, but I haven't heard them make any comments whatsoever on it (could be discussed on higher level in the alliance or then they just don't particularly care either).
Haha, yes we planned this all along Delta.![]()
Uhm right, aftermath.
We managed to whore about 25 fighters and lost another 5-10 in shitty fit t1 haulers that got bombed by few BLAST bombers around the battlefield. Some capital mods as a bonus.
Also the dead-pos shell with 3 layers of dead guns is awesome gathering place for roaming gangs.
The day was rather calm and in the (euro) evening we made a small roaming gang that went around Fountain and found out noone really wants to play. Y-2 was empty, G95 was empty, way to PNQ had some Talos guys camping but they packed it up and ran when we got reported few systems away from them.
PNQ produced some carriers on station, which we couldnt bump out or even aggress (system is not cynojammed and titan was in range, but meh). We dildoed around a bit, hoping IT pets will get their act together and chase us out, but it wasnt meant to be.
Went back to fountain core via the back route and decided to make a stop in Minotaur constellation (BLAST home). We sent in some faction ship to bait (although weve been reported for ages at that point) but it was a complete fail and no one wanted to play at all. 9DQ had some carriers hugging station, but were stuck in geometry so kinda unbumpable.
We stayed for about 10 minutes and decided its time to leave, as BLAST wasnt obviously looking for action:
Went back to YZ, tried to bump off dread from amarr station with a snaked nano mach (success, but managed to dock) and most of the gang went afk. 20 minutes later BLAST gang of about 20-30 guys arrived, destroyed our anchored bubble and went away pretty much instantly (we were actually getting a gang together, but didnt manage to undock fast enough to catch BLAST before they left).Kainos Kerensky > There is 200 of you bastards online and only 4 in the home defense fleet
And thats it for yesterday. Stay tuned for next adrenaline packed thrilling report.
TL : DR - Absolutely nothing happened.
EDIT: Also, the morning caps rape caused some rather funny emo posts on BLAST forums, including certain pilots posts about refusing to fly with certain FC's, generic whining about getting blobbed (haha), awesome tips for future ("No, we cant kick active FC out of voicecomms in middle of the OP"), morale boosters and back patting about how they "held the ground" (not sure how, when they all died) / "finished their objective" (killing a bait pos in NPC space that was intended to bait their caps) and generic support posts.
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
@Veno Don't expect much from BLAST, they are pets/renters after all. I was surprised to see them trying to kill that POS without ITs help to be honest. They have a courage only when the blob is > 4:1 in their favor, and in EU TZ since HUNs are close to lay a hand if things get tough.
Yesterday turned out pretty funky.
We did some fagging around Fountain core, server was generally acting bit weird (75 system got somewhat stuck and cursed and no one could pass through). We blackops dropped few random ratters around just to show them that fountain weather is unpredictable and it can rain bombers at any time.
Our elite pos gunning squad decided its time for a new challenge and we started building a new faction deathstar in YZ. We managed that rather fast and when it was done, we were looking for some good target to test some limits of it (we are pretty green in all this pos stuff). However no one volunteered after our last pos raped the testing battleship few days ago, because we couldnt stop the guns from shooting ( :gk: ).
Then the awesome idea came. Yesterday or so we managed to loose one of our shittier spies in BLAST to full api check (certain money transfers to and from people in gk) and it had few hours left on roles. We picked a random guy from alliance chat asking for cyno and convoed him with the outted spy.
Few minutes later, cyno goes up at our brand new pos in YZ with some dictors, full gunners and some killmail whores in bombers. Archon jumps in and gets promptly bubbled and raped. Alliance chat goes totally nuts and we cant stop laughing on ventrilo, especially after random convos from BLAST members telling us that "this was really low". Well, too bad for you, we kinda liked it.
Alliance log from the lol op, I didnt filter it so its bit longer, sorry.
Archon KM: http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21498Originally Posted by Alliance Chat
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
well done for killing that carrier
"B > But what about the mining ops in PXF tomorrow? "
Priceless. You probably know it already, but monday & friday are belt respawn days. Few cloaked bombers can really upset miners, and it really pisses them off. And with those HULK prices these days none will be willing to risk a 250m piece of hardware. Even if you keep cloaked bombers afk, after few days the industry index will drop so fast and will piss alot of ppl.
Story time again. Also I edited the alliance chat logs to the previous post.
Anyway. First part of yesterday's rape is rather blurry cause I was hanging around Serp / YZ for hour or two while chatting on voicecomms and doing fuck all, although I heard we had some stations bubbled and that kind of stuff. At that point I went off for good two hours or so to accompany gf while she was watching Amazing Race (miss south carolina goooo). I came back and found out everyone on voicecomm was in a verymood and obviously some funky rape happened.
It appears HUN decided to clear us out of YZ once, which didnt work. So they came in again. Too bad that one didnt work either. Cant tell much details as I wasnt there, so feel free to make your own opinion:
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21543
I was rather disgusted that I didnt manage to participate on this obviously very balanced fight and went to check whats going on in the BLAST garden. Thanks to awesome luck, BLAST was just getting their roaming gang together and had quite few people in it locked down in YZ (which we still had somewhat camped). We swapped to sniping hacs and went to camp the in-gate to system and wait for BLAST fleet to arrive to pick up the rest of their gang. They had decent amount of people, 40-50 in gang, with about 30+ present when they left their Minotaur hole.
They were dildoing around Z3 system first but when they figured out we prolly wont jump into their short range gang with our long range one, they decided its time to get the show started. Just about time.
Long story short, another huge rape happened, those of blast that managed to get through (mostly battlecruisers and larger ships, cause the rest was burned by our minimalistic primary calling approach - "Kill all tackle") decided its time to chill for a bit in their pos or in station. Eventually they managed to leave the system while sacrificing few ships as a bait for our gang to leave the gate.
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21608 - report is obviously bit skewed, cause they didnt kill anything so all their heavier ships which we didnt kill are not showing on the report.
Gf gf, mad propulsions and all that.
Report from other side:
Originally Posted by Grucho
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
LoL @ http://blast-alliance.com/kbdom/?a=home and the fact that none of the lost carriers from http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21335 is on their KB. How pathetic can you get, in order for you to hide your losses. I still can't believe these dickheads are in Fountain, sad very sad...
In all fairness, I believe their new and updated killboard is - http://bsa.killmail.org
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
Someone has to tell them to fix their KB. Anyway good job, and who needs a SOV isk sink when you have BLAST "277 Ships killed (8.37B ISK) 643 Ships lost (32.45B ISK)"
OLD -> http://blast-alliance.com/kbdom/?a=losses&scl_id=22
"NEW" -> http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=losses&scl_id=22
Hey Veno please keep updating this thread you're a great poster.
Thanks!
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
My CEO best poaster.
BLAST are awesome, and I invite every bored alliance to have a look at 7BX and their dozens of ratting (anomalies) carriers (and nyx).
Thats actually chink farmers in Dark Rising, so IT.Originally Posted by mankell
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
Yesterday is a bit blurry, so the report might be somewhat wrong in some details.
Most of the time it was just random flying around fountain core and trying to find some targets. We had some BC roam planned for the evening, so eventually we swapped into shield tanked BC's with 2 logis and got moving (we had about 18-20 in the gang realistically at that point). We moved about 2-3 jumps from Fountain Core in direction to BLAST constellation and got reports of both BLAST and HUN forming (BLAST in its usual entertaining way - "GET IN THE FUCKING FLEET EVERYONE, WE NEED MROE PEOPLE, THEY R COMING"). HUNs were way faster and managed to lock us down in the pipe down to BLAST constellation with about 30-40 man longer range gang (bcs / hacs) + 3 logis and some tackle. BLAST were still forming on their pos and spouting carebear hate into alliance chat and we were hoping for nice fight with HUN.
Our battlecruisers were shortrange fit with 2 scimitars, while HUN had almost double numbers of ours + 3 basilisks. We were sitting on one side of the gate, they were sitting on other, both sides bubbled and noone wanted to jump in. We were sitting there for a bit and hoped. In the end we just moved away from the gate to about 70km to give the HUN fleet bit of headstart when they jump in with their long range ships. But they didnt.
At that point it became clear that HUNs are not willing to engage until BLAST comes and brings the odds to solid 4:1. That wasnt exactly what we were looking for. BLAST finally manged to get together on their pos with about 30 people in gang and lots of jamming ships. They jumped one system behind us and warped to gate to our system. At that point it was rather obvious we were going to get sandwiched and had to act.
HUNs dropped their range and warped close range on the gate that was leading to us. At the same time we decided to make a run for it and warped on 0 as well and jumped into them. BLAST fleet that was behind us got caught by our sly dictors and significantly delayed. But even without BLAST, HUN had some numerical advantage.
We jumped through, held cloak for few seconds, discussed a bit what we are going to do and eventually decided to rape logistics and run. Things got bit messy afterwards and ended up with us running towards the core with both HUN and BLAST bubbling themselves on a gate behind us.
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21689
We still came out bit ahead in isk, but defo not the most glorious fight.
We came back to core and decided to swap into long range hacs as well and do a re-match with the HUN gang that was coming back. We didnt manage to regroup fast enough before HUNs passed YZ and that gave them a chance to reship as well. When they saw we are in sniping hacs, they changed to sniping battleships. When we saw that, we changed to bombers. That forced them to change to... something, I dont remember, but in the end we didnt fight at all and just kept changing ships to keep other side in check.
Luckily enough, status quo got disrupted by pretty stylish RAZOR gang entering YZ (actually CEI exclusive it seems). Pretty much exclusively pulse apocs + guardians + random 1-2 dictors. That was rather juicy target for us to pass. However in a true GK fashion, our prober was afk and everyone else was too muchto get into a prober, so we had to do a blind bombing run. We were trying to get into some semi decent bombing spot but they just kept warping around too fast for us to position without probes. It was looking rather desperate until...
... they managed to warp about 7 km away from our cloaked dictor (who almost got heart attack). Obviously that was the chance, dictor uncloaked, bubbled, made warpin and heroicly died in a ball of fire. Bombers warped in, threw their loads and some died in fire as well as we didnt have warpouts done properly.
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21710
The dead zealot on our side is kinda mixed in as it died after the bomb engagement on station because danteh forgot he left that pilot in space and alt tabbed.
After that Fountain Core kinda calmed down and we had to came up with some new fun for the rest of evening. Eventually we decided to send a bait group out and bridge on top of them with bunch of RR BS. It was rather obvious trap, so every second line on blast intel channels and alliance channel was "omg, be carefull, its a bait gang, they are ready to bridge". Luckily enough, Talos Alliance proved to be dumb enough either not to read the fountain intel channels or not be in them and in the end got somewhat dropped. Welp.
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21725
To be continued...
EDIT: It appears Instant Annihilation (corp in BLAST - 80 members, their CEO was listed as one of the official alliance FC's) got kicked from BLAST this morning for trying to start their own alliance and poaching current BLAST members to join their new venture. Plot thickens.
EDIT2: Instant Annihilation approached us for standings as they want to fight against BLAST. They have been sadly rejected and as a bonus we stole their unanchoring tower.
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
Thread: The Panda Problem - Solutions????
Originally Posted by Kapout Z
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
Yesterday there was lots of pew pew, but most of it was rather conventional and blurred together, so hard to pick the nice details. For that reason only few quick links for now:
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21803
We had a BLAST reaction group coming to YZ to clear off bubbles from Z3 gate (in direction to their constellation). Originally we wanted to bridge on top of them, but eventually they decided to jump in and try it out. Our RR was totally horrid and in true gk style we managed to pop our own Gila. However thanks to BLAST it turned into fairly decisive victory (their ship composition wasnt top notch really).
Another one - http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21868
This time we had BLAST intie gang in YZ together with TORMENTUM BC gang + logis and HUNs in sniping hacs. Local was around 130. We lost one muninn who got accidentaly dragged by bubble to the tormentum gang, another one to swarm of inties which we didnt shoot off fast enough and then the last one who got pointed by overheated / claymored lachesis and raped by sniping hacs. Obviously, muninns are cursed, all zealots survived just fine.
They all eventually left, so we tried to throw a minor speed bump in the way of the blast intie gang:
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21891
+ some scraps of YZ fights in the end:
http://gkkb.dante.se/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21909
Overall fairly enjoyable day, around 150 kills in total I think. Gf blast, hun, tormentum and everyone else who went around and took a shot at us.
Also, considering all the discussions on BLAST forums, I would like to add something from my side - open letter to blast guys. I am pretty sure someone will repost this, so you all can read it.
So, what do you think about it? Can I be competition for Molle in department of really bad forum posts and vague threats?Originally Posted by veno
EDIT: Also sup Turbo, I know you read this. Gotta tell you man, I really enjoy kicking your own alliance into the nuts.
EDIT2:Nope, not true. We actually go after HUNs sometimes, but they are somewhat decent and know when they cant win so they just hide and dont make a mess. Aeternus are similarily horrible as you BLAST guys, they are just too far, so too muchCorrect, because they know if they go after aeternus and hun they will very soon find themselves camped in to station 24/7. They are coming after us because we are the soft target.is the rest of fountain being harassed by panda/sot? IMO thost fuckers only come toward minotaur, and they leave aeternus and hun alone..to get there and harass them. Try to negotiate swapping of yours and theirs constellation, might help.
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
Also in other news, we are not recruiting anymore (its starting to be a bit too much ownage) unless you are super duper pimp player with endless wallet and lust for pvp or you fly a titan.
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
to be honest any 2500 members alliance that is calling for help against a enemy they outnumber 12:1 should really think about their future ...
EDIT : nice posting Veno
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Veno again."
Sounds appropriately vague and ominous indeed. I have to admit I'm a bit surprised about the whole situation, when we were parked in Minotaur for a few weeks there really wasn't many GK around and the brawling seemed to be mainly limited to Serpentis Prime (who from IT was headquartered there, DICE? BNC? I know we were in YZ- and it was rather peaceful).
Nice stories in any case, this has turned out to be about the best Fountain news resource atm.
When IT was in Fountain, we pretty much never had to leave Serpentis Prime. Its the nirvana state for any serious pvper to just undock and have nice targets all around without them actually bothering too much with camping them in station and such. We were doing 700-800 kills per week without leaving Serpentis at all for 2-3 weeks. It was mostly DICE, RKK and zer0 I think + BLAST + some random other pets living there.
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
This is a good thread and the posts are usually worth a read.
If i was actively playing at the moment like a normal EVE player I'd be annoyed recruitment was closed, that is if i didn't already have 3 or 4 other groups i wanted to fly with for a bit.
Not Dead, Just Sleeping
Its nice to see you compare yourself to molle.
Dont worry, I am humble. I know I wont be just as bad as he is at this stuff.
We are elite? I like your 'lol isn't IT elite, should be able to evict them.' Clearly you are total shit and know nothing about how stupid/boreing/waste of time/ and hard it is to 'evict' someone from npc space, espically when you don't even live there for the past month. Zero loosing JF at kickouts was fail. Blast and other allies aren't IT, if they can't handle PANDA and still choose to live there, that's their fail.
IT member gets trolled.
Not Dead, Just Sleeping
In all honesty the "core" of HUN is still good but the new corps are pretty bad, as they were low-tier GBC renter corps. Aeternus is pretty horrible and the only reasons I see to keep them around are to make numbers and because they're exceptionally servile pets. Their smacktalk is almost as horrible as Ushra Khan, which is pretty bad, but unlike them they don't have a past of not-sucking-dicks (they now both suck a lot of dicks anyway).
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
Yesterday was somewhat uninteresting. Had some small skirmishes all along, but nothing worth mentioning too much except bridge into Minotaur constellation, where we did some fighting and then got camped in by BLAST home defense fleet. They were camping us for hour or two (in which we were flying around their two main home systems and hunting stragglers and newloggers) and after few of us logged to go play some Battlefield (the new one is pretty awesome, try it out) they disbanded the fleet and went to do something else. In the end it was them camping a gate without doing anything productive and getting bombed, while we were hunting poor souls stuck in their homesystems and when all of them docked or posed, we went to play something else.
Luckily after this BLAST pvp activity went to normal (which is near zero) and we were able to score some additional kills around.
As a funny twist, few of the BLAST unleashed their righteous fury upon us in different areas of pvp - this time it was market. Fountain Core and YZ / Serpentis in general are very well supplied systems (I would dare to say one of the best 0.0 markets there is). Large amount of stuff on the market is ours (maybe even majority). Major reasons for these are rather obvious - profit from selling and supplies available for our members. Thanks to the NPC stations the stuff is available to anyone who is interested, which is not necessarily bad. We try to have pretty much everything supported there, be it standard t2 mods, ammo, all kinds of rigs, t1 / t2 ships, nanite, probes, bubbles and even boosters.
Some BLAST members decided (ex-Maru'Kage genius strikes again) they can probably make some trouble for us if they buy some important commodities from market, so theres nothing left. Thanks to daily logistic runs, the plan didnt turn out as it should and certain Sick Boy and few others market masterminds are sitting now probably on 100k+ overpriced nanite and lots of other overpriced products.
But you know what, keep doing it. So far its one of the easiest ways to make money.
Also there is some pretty delicious BLAST porn available (well, delicious... its rather standard compared to some all time classics like BRUCE or Sc0rched Earth, but still worth a read), not sure if I should repost it or not :/
And as the last point - it seems my popularity among the BLAST members is growing, which is good. High five to my fans:
(from thread where they reposted my letter from here, both from same guy)
tl;dr useless crosspost from kug, also veno is a terrible posterw/e terrible shit poster anyways, although I give him credit for writing large blocks of text that few people if any care about or read.
What's holding you back from posting it? (the porn)
Theres quite lots of it and not everything is that interesting, especially from outsider pov. But hmmm, I prolly will...
DeltaTeam / GK - ingame
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