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    Quote Originally Posted by xutech View Post
    not me personally. my sucking at RTSes makes my EVE playing seem divinely inspired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xutech View Post
    I'm a Total Annihilation man, myself.
    I was, while it still lasted. Metal Islands was a heinous map for the fighter/bomber swarms. I still hear that fucking siren noise all over the TV.

    No, not really waiting for Starcraft II; it's probably not going to be worth the wait. I'm currently enjoying the poop out of World In Conflict because I get chance to yell 'Wolverines' while defending a small Oregon town from the dastardly red menace.

    BTW, C&C, Tiberian Sun and Red Alert I are freeware:- http://www.commandandconquer.com/classic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav View Post
    World In Conflict because
    Seriously underrated strategy game, I'm annoyed how few people know it even exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav View Post
    BTW, C&C, Tiberian Sun and Red Alert I are freeware:- http://www.commandandconquer.com/classic
    W00T \o/ That's awesome. Lost my Tiberian Sun CD some years ago. Gosh, I'm wagging my tail in happiness.

    On topic, fuck yeah, can't wait for SC2 to be released. And in contrast to Hav I really do think it'll be worth it. I know I was very sceptical of StarCraft back i nthe days, as a thorough C&C fan. Then I tried out the demo... and still playing SC on battle.net these days. Also Blizzard games (if not mmorpgs, so excluding WoW] tend to be relatively bug-free and if not, they make it so. I think the only major screwup I can remember was the release of Lord of Destruction expansion for D2, where the bnet servers couldn't handle the storm of players for the first weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by xutech View Post
    I'm a Total Annihilation man, myself.
    Dunno, TA was too much of MASS-MASS-MASS for me from what I recall. Didn't really entertain me for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
    Seriously underrated strategy game, I'm annoyed how few people know it even exists.
    One of the best RTS' simply for the inclusion of Napalm and the whole starting soviet campaign. Tanks rolling across the Berlin wall in a multi-mission campaign of mayhem. Yes please sir.

    I think the point I got distracted away was rescuing the B2 pilots because that shit was hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaclypse View Post
    And in contrast to Hav I really do think it'll be worth it. I know I was very sceptical of StarCraft
    Don't get me wrong, I loved it. I just think that they've sat on it for too long and the episodic treatment smacks of micropayments and extracting fan money through love of the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav View Post
    [...] the episodic treatment smacks of micropayments and extracting fan money through love of the original.
    Okay, I agree there. That's really a fucked up decision. Nontheless... Working on a porject forever at least so far never really hurt a Blizzard game, at least if one's primary focus isn't up2date-technics/graphics but rather gameplay.
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    How do I sign up for the StarCraft II beta test?

    In order to sign up for the StarCraft II beta test or future Blizzard Entertainment beta tests, you first need to create a Battle.net account. You can then opt in to the beta for StarCraft II, as well as betas for future Blizzard Entertainment games, through the beta opt-in process. To get started, simply click Beta Profile Settings in Battle.net Account Management. Please note that opting in to a beta test through this method does not guarantee that you will be selected.

    If I opted in to the StarCraft II beta, how will I know if I’ve been selected to participate?

    If you are selected, you will receive an email from Blizzard instructing you to log in to your Battle.net account at www.battle.net. You will be able to download the client directly from within Battle.net Account Management. We plan on inviting players in waves, so if you do not receive an invitation in the beginning of the testing period, there’s a chance you might receive one in a later wave.

    I attended BlizzCon 2008 and received a beta code. Do I have to go through this process?

    There is a separate process in place for players who received StarCraft II beta codes from BlizzCon 2008 or have unused beta codes from earlier Blizzard events. To redeem your beta code, visit the beta sign-up page (don’t worry that the page says World of Warcraft), and enter the code from your card, along with a valid email address that you check often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coloredshirt View Post
    We'll see how well that holds up when they release Diablo III
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    Quote Originally Posted by RansomList View Post
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    We’re pleased to announce that all players who purchase the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ will also have the option of playing on North American servers following the launch. While we still encourage gamers to play on the local servers, which will offer lower latency and more action during peak hours, we recognize that many players have longstanding friendships and rivalries with North American players, and would like to continue playing with them. Because of this, we're giving Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand gamers access to both regions' servers, so they can choose where they'd prefer to play.

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    Anybody playing regularly?

    Just got it the other day; jumped right into the league games ("practice league? ha! campaign? pfft!"). Got raped a lot at first, so my stats look pretty meh, but getting better as Protoss.

    I've heard some complaints, some of which are justified, but it's a lot of fun overall. I'd say it's about met my expectations.

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    I play quite a bit. Currently Gold league 2v2.

    I really hate how completely imbalanced the races are though. Terran are just fucking stupid OP, while zerg is crazy hard.
    The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.

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    Yeah, definitely noticing a distinct lack of balance for Terran. GreenDaemon and I bought it on the same day, so we did a 1v1 just to get the hang of things; my first reaction was to play Zerg, as they were my favorite from SC. I was amazed at how ineffectual my units seemed against his without an insane amount of micro. Said fuck it and started playing Protoss.

    edit: These stats say a lot: Race Stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by secshunayt View Post
    Yeah, definitely noticing a distinct lack of balance for Terran. GreenDaemon and I bought it on the same day, so we did a 1v1 just to get the hang of things; my first reaction was to play Zerg, as they were my favorite from SC. I was amazed at how ineffectual my units seemed against his without an insane amount of micro. Said fuck it and started playing Protoss.

    edit: These stats say a lot: Race Stats
    I love how as many people play random as they do Zerg. Though it does surprise me that more people play Protoss as Terran, but that's probably because Terran are so easy people would rather play a "real" race.
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    It's interesting to see that Protoss and Terran get a smaller percentage as the league levels go up and Random and Zerg get progressively more used. To me it means noobs find it harder to manage zerg and random and its balanced for diamond play. I've always played random sine beta though and find Zerg to be my strongest, with the greatest number of wins and fun games for me. I'm just gold 10-20 though. Up until diamond Random wins slightly more : ) Looks like North America likes Random more than any other group. Full saturation of terran on euro and south america and max protoss on asian servers. Korea like zerg the most (but still the least hehe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    It's interesting to see that Protoss and Terran get a smaller percentage as the league levels go up and Random and Zerg get progressively more used. To me it means noobs find it harder to manage zerg and random and its balanced for diamond play. I've always played random sine beta though and find Zerg to be my strongest, with the greatest number of wins and fun games for me. I'm just gold 10-20 though. Up until diamond Random wins slightly more : ) Looks like North America likes Random more than any other group. Full saturation of terran on euro and south america and max protoss on asian servers. Korea like zerg the most (but still the least hehe).
    At the lower levels it's much more about your macro. How well you do at setting up your bases, getting your build order right, etc. Protoss and terran are MUCH more forgiving if you fuck up macro, and much easier to control macrowise. Once you get your macro down to a tee (plat/diamond league) it becomes more about your micro. Again, Terran and Protoss are easier because you don't have to fucking micro suicide units but it's not as bad. I found myself wanting to play Zerg more and more but I just couldn't get past have to micro all the queens and getting a solid build order down for early game counter-rushes.

    You see quite a lot of zerg at the high-end tournaments and stuff, but honestly they usually get stomped by Terran. I've even seen some matches when Terran players wont use tanks or something like that just to prove they can win without them. One of the top Terran players, Morrow (who won the intel tourney which had like a 10 grand winner's prize), has even admitted that Terran are too strong right now.
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    Most definitely. I'd categorize myself as a noob, and I can't play Zerg for beans, whereas I can play Protoss decently.

    Of course, I don't have much experience playing RTS's online - most of my RTS playtime comes from the same group of friends at LAN parties, usually on older games like SC or AoEII. Now I'm getting my ass kicked at SCII, and seeing it's time to step up my play

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    I just rewatched the intel tournament, there was 8 terran's, 4 protoss, and 4 zerg.

    In the finals, the terran player did the exact same thing 3 times in a row and the zerg player couldn't really counter it and lost almost purely because reapers are so strong against zerg early game.
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/BlizShou.../6/Pz82xn5LP6U

    Good match that shows some nice zerg play. It is really intense as you have to control your drops, banelings and main force at the same time

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    I'm currently playing some anti-AI games and sometimes with a buddy. CPU being just on the edge of SC2 requirements is a bit of a handicap for fluent multiplayer sessions, hence i'll wait 'til that issue's fixed next month.
    Apart of that Zerg really do seem a big weak. I gave them a lucky shot once and well, it ended rather quickly and devastating for me against my Terran-hardon having buddy. Went back to Protoss, 5 units every 23secs whipped is ass. :$ (<3 warpgates)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/user/BlizShou.../6/Pz82xn5LP6U

    Good match that shows some nice zerg play. It is really intense as you have to control your drops, banelings and main force at the same time
    God that commentator is bad. A 16 pool is not a fast pool, plus I can't stand it when I can hear people's saliva moving around in their mouth. I muted it after like a minute.

    The Terran player got completely outplayed. You can't afford to let zerg sit there early game. You have to be offensive right off the bat and with how completely OP reapers are early game there's no reason not too.

    Here's the IEM master's final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGbmAQ0NVZc

    Idra is easily one of the best US zerg player, if not the best, but Morrow wasn't actually even placed in the tournament until someone dropped out due to sickness and he got a spot.
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    Oh course as I sit here complaining about terran, the current MLG final (with an $8k winning prize) is Protoss vs Protoss.
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    Where are my random heros? They have a solid percentage in Diamond league....

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    The problem is that at the tournament level you literally have to sit there practicing builds hundreds of times in order to get them right. A few macro or micro mistakes and you're fucked. This makes playing random kinda hard in a tournament setting. It doesn't really give you much of an advantage other than throwing off your opponent for the first few minutes where their build order shouldn't change much anyway.
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