You could fill the North with Tri+pets and give some space to Drone Russians, but ultimately who would want to base continually in the North to hold off MM+RZR+LODRA from taking everything back?Originally Posted by Yorda
You could fill the North with Tri+pets and give some space to Drone Russians, but ultimately who would want to base continually in the North to hold off MM+RZR+LODRA from taking everything back?
SE and C0ven aren't interested in IT's\Atlas\AAA R64s you know. They have enough of those by themselves. The only way someone will be able to hold the conquered North, is if one of the major alliances decides to do a complete move and live up there. Would Atlas theoretically trade their relatively shitty Detorid\Omist\Insmother\Wicked Creek for a Tech moon paradise? Perhaps.
Every alliance leader in the south, your retarded to even ask.
I'd be pretty disappointed if SE/C0ven just sat on their hands every time the SC tried to do anything. If their past in any indication this is exactly where they thrive, beating up on the pets while daddy's gone and generally causing a wreck. Sounds pretty fun actually. A hell of a lot better than sitting around ratting all day.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
You need to remember Yorda that unlike SE/Covens relationship with goonswarm, they have fought alongside the people living in the south now. There is a great respect between these groups even though we have differences in opinions. There is no "hate" for one another, its more of a disagreament.
Now when we were all pissing in your cherrios back in estoria, that was about being the biggest pain in your ass as possible. Everytime you guys tried to go north and help the NC against BOB, we would strike your holdings there. The main objective was :fuck goons: and it did allow BOB to take most of the north with later TRI and Atlas taking vale. I think if bob had stayed North instead of moving on detorid and if atlas was as big as it is now, we probably could have completely conquered the north.
But yeah there is no :hate: like we all had against the goons. SE/Coven want targets close to home and I'm pretty sure the South wont kick them out if they dont escalate it to a full blown sov war.
I completely realize this, but if the whole point of the reset is to just do exactly what you're doing now only with less space then there's really no point is there? I suppose fake resets are all the rage now.
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
SYS-K is three times their combined size, hope this helps. Not their fault sys-k membership is 4/5th join4PB carebears
yo Pripyat these guys sure do respect you a lot
[spoiler=This is a spoiler][spoiler=Another spoiler][spoiler=Guess what?]-A- is shit![/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]
Hilarious troll
I dont think that was anyone from BUFU.
Anyway - Br1ck Squad just got their very first outpost from distrustfull SE pets:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/0-O6XF
I wonder how long will they last there
EDIT:
I just read that Vanzon guy posts on polish CAOD and im not longer sure that wasnt himIn last 2 days he wrote few dozens of posts including pretty the same stuff. (without all that cocksucking etc. tho).
Wasn't BUFU in some GBC alliance?
The idea that I have "free will" is the only irrational belief that I allow myself.
If I am wrong, I had no choice in the matter.
Bro it's not the end of the world and we all know se/coven have a higher skilled to normal pilots compared to sysk and any argument about numbers is retarded. Fights will be had and boats violenced.
They had their own alliance ( BeachBoys ) .. similar like x13
thread cleaned, Venzon faggotry moved here.
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Wow and you even quoted it. I imagine the more perceptive of us realized he was commenting on the improper use of the possessive.
woah...
And I neg repped you for being stupid, since i said SPLIT IT, which did happen afterall.
Actualy, you are the retarded one. Go back and read what he said and then try and parse it carefully.
Edit: or just read Phred's post I suppose.
Yea.. tonight ended up a bit different for them
SE + C0ven tryed to get in HHQ for killing the pos they reinforced yesterday, they lost more then half of the fleet jumping in, a bunch more at their pos that was bubbled for an hour or so before they logged off at the moment the result on kb is 152 K / 37 L for sys-k & lr, but i think some more kill and loss will arrive tomorrow from syncs.
http://killboard.systematic-chaos.eu...d&kll_id=69946
Actually, a few days ago the result was pretty similar when c0ven decided to engage us at one of our pos's with a RR bs fleet with a 137 K / 35 L for sys-k
http://killboard.systematic-chaos.eu...d&kll_id=68959
Pretty sad you post reports only when you win ^^ the engagement of yesterday was a plain tactical mistake by me, i understimated your bombers capabilities, will not happen anymore
Sad? I call that normal. Sad would be for them to post the ones they lose.
When you win it's your job to post them.
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Mhh you sure? oh well, i'll try ^^Sad? I call that normal. Sad would be for them to post the ones they lose.
When you win it's your job to post them.
I always hated smug "pot meet kettle" and "OMG irony overload" type posts. But you are literally doing what you're condeming as you are condemning it. That's like calling a homosexuality a sin, muffled slightly by the cock in your mouth. I guess what I'm saying is that you make me hate myself.
Well Liam, am call it a failure on your PR department of not reporting "when" you guys won battles. Its not SE/C0vens job to post when they lose, its yours...
I always did report when IT lost battles tho, just because it was hilarious, especially when getting bombed to fuck <3 goonies
About yesterdays fight, the difference was made by LR numbers. They engage us actively since yesterday. Sysk got only about 140 ppl in fleet + another 50-60 of LR which was too many for us. We had like 120 + bomber squad. However we decided to jump through bubbled gate and fight anyways. It wasnt that bad however we've taken heavy losses.
Today, sysk hub in HHQ was coming out of reinforced after DT. When we were about to kill cynojammer in system, 200 Atlas bridged in. In the afternoon we've had like 100 coven/se vs 450 atlas/sysk/lr. Some fights occured at the poses, both sides took some losses but generally we got blocked in the system. Meanwhile Brick Squad attacked Coven / SE poses in Stain region.
While they were kiting one of coven poses, we've hotdropped them with titan + ms + carriers and support, tackled and dded one carrier and 6-7 battleships. Rest ran.
Actually Atlas were in system for the time needed to kill your SBU's, after that they went back to their business, while we reinforced and incapped your deathstar.
Regarding yesterday, sys-k had 190 people in fleet, not 140, but i appreciate your propaganda effort
PS: good job on that doomsdayed carrier \o/
So Liam is making backdoor deals with Bricksquad, how cute.Actually Atlas were in system for the time needed to kill your SBU's, after that they went back to their business, while we reinforced and incapped your deathstar.
Regarding yesterday, sys-k had 190 people in fleet, not 140, but i appreciate your propaganda effort
PS: good job on that doomsdayed carrier \o/
ofcourse he is, his new enemy would roll him so bad hes mashing the buttons on the batphone
there's only one button on the batphone. that button calls batman.
THE GREATEST POSTER
LOL.
Opti must be referring to the "hotline." That is a direct line to Liam's pizza supplier. With all the action going on, it's in use constantly.
how the fuck is that propaganda.Regarding yesterday, sys-k had 190 people in fleet, not 140, but i appreciate your propaganda effort
don't you get it man 'they' are out to 'get' you
Will in some eyes, when people see low fleet counts it might mean that they are being demoralized and etc etc... i.e. propaganda war
Your fucking crazy if you think Sys-K could coordinate for Brick to attack the Coven POS thats 2 jumps from one of Bricks main staging system (J-A). * really, who would think an Alliance wouldn't want a hostile POS next door* The thought of Bricks coordinating with Sys-K just sounds....WRONG.
Personally,
Even though IE-EX of Brick has fought against XB/SE ever since the Stain Civil War time. I still remember the days IE-EX and XB both fought on the same side in the same alliance. I would rather see IE-EX/Brick side with SE before a "new kid on the Stain block". I have a soft spot for old corps/ pilots from the SA vs CA, SA/SE vs FIX Wars time frame.
Liam, whining about misreported fleet numbers went out of style a couple years ago. You could have had 250; hell let's go wild and make it 300! No one cares.
You are all nerds
Only for people too lazy to read - or at best propaganda benefiting Sys-K in this case.Will in some eyes, when people see low fleet counts it might mean that they are being demoralized and etc etc... i.e. propaganda war
Surely stating 140 + 50-60 being enough to outnumber SE/C0ven is propaganda to prove low Sys-K participation.
The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.
Yes, such a coincidence that Bricks, who were hanging out in HED every single night for over a month, shooting AAA citizens and Sys-k, all of a sudden start to attack SE\C0ven assets in Esoteria\Stain and bugger off to camp NC in M-O, completely abandoning HED right after the SE\C0ven reset. They also bravely risk and lose capitals, which they have no means to replace by themselves. I wonder who is reimbursing them for losses, got any ideas?
probably no-one, we're all ratting in anomalies to make ISK to pay sov bills
I wonder that aswell. Where is my ISK?!
I lost my Revelation while being on a super secret mission as an undercover brick protecting Liam's freighter
You are a retard, scooter and crew have been suiciding capitals for years even back in RK days and everything in between - shut the fuck up all of you, you are all retards.
Enjoy protecting Sys-k for the next year, Bobby.
BobbyAtlas: In an attempt to quiet Stainwagon down to consolidate for MAX2 (aka BITCH), you gave Stainwagon no way out and created a permanent red who lives in NPC space that will constantly draw attention away from the front.
So even though Suppilappic is indeed retarded, you aren't exactly in a mainstream classroom either.
SYS-K+LR and StainWagon just fought in HHQ as two StainWagon POS were coming out of reinforced. Someone bombed the bubbles that were on the gate, preventing what likely would have been an outright massacre of the StainWagon fleet. It seems like roughly equal BS/support losses for both sides, with StainWagon losing both POS but SYS-K losing a carrier.
Fight occured in HHQ, Sysk and LR gathered up to kill SE small poses coming out of rf.
Sysk+LR had about 150 in fleet and camped HHQ, stationary bubbles positioned on VYJ gate. SE+C0ven had about 90, battleships + logistics + some long range support. Sysk camped VYJ gate with the fleet. We've jumped via gate, cleared the bubbles and shot enemy support, than battleships. After a while Sysk warped 10+ carriers and a mothership on the gate. They've lost 1, he was too far from the rest of the carrier group for spidertank. Lag was minimal, local spiked to 260.
Few drive by's and longer engagements took place at the gate and at the pos after we've decided to go back to Stain. Small pos was killed by Sysk. KB's still updating so im not sure about outcome however it seems that we've killed more than we've lost. Good fight.
i like the first post better.
Anyone who thought that Sys-K were worth throwing SE/Coven under the train for is dumb. When we were in the south their harassment of Esoteria tied us down strategically for months. We did manage to take down Geminate inbetween their offensives, but basically they managed to dictate our foreign policy because we would always have to get back south to defend our R64s and our strategically-vital but badly-timed LDLQ JB systems.
Goons had some of our most-fun fights of the last few years on a succession of long Sunday afternoons against astonishingly-effective SE/Coven fleets and that is reflected in the extremely positive coverage they're getting on our forums right now, despite our strategic disinterest (we base out of NPC space, have a sov bill that I, personally and without exaggeration, could fund for several years without income, and nobody is going to try and take our worthless, grindy US TZ-timed station systems anyway).
Now somebody else has managed to inherit the SE/Coven problem, despite our example of why that is something to avoid. Going north then having Sys-K head south again to defend their space would be no big deal: if anything, probably a bonus. But having Sys-K head south and then realising someone competent will have to go south to stop them cascading as they are camped out of their ratting systems and into their stations by two guys in a cynabal and a taranis; get hot-dropped once a week; and lose R64s every Sunday afternoon is a different matter. The irony is that the SC invaded Providence - an unthreatening bunch if ever there were one - but made SE/Coven into the threat they were trying to avoid, but squared.
The subtlety of this situation that has been ignored throughout this thread is that the Southern Coalition doesn't get to choose if Stain Empire is a threat; SE does that. Sometime in the last six months, SE checked out from the whole southern coalition thing. They soft-touched it, didn't break any official ties.. just quit showing up and did their own thing. Perhaps they lost interest in sovereignty warfare and want GoodFights(tm), perhaps there was e-drama with Liam, but it doesn't really matter why. This was pretty obvious to anyone involved in major operations in which StainWagon participated in recently. And people pretty much dealt with it, having SE as de-facto neutrals who would pitch in on titan kills was better than having them as enemies.
The short notice reset of IT for 'GoodFights', and the reset of Sys-K, made it clear to anyone paying attention that SE was once again a threat. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but sooner or later they'd want action with whoever was handy. Right now that's Sys-K since they're the closest, and a relatively safe target for sov warfare thanks to their piss poor capital fleet. IT and Atlas could ditch Sys-K and it wouldn't change anything about the situation, other than allowing SE to pick fights with IT and Atlas sooner.
If IT/Atlas side with Sys-K, they retain Sys-K's participation in their ops, retain a meatshield to hold SE's interest, repay a good ally for their efforts, and lose nothing, because SE was already a threat to them and didn't help them.
If IT/Atlas side with SE, they get nothing, lose Sys-K subcap fleets, throw a good ally under the bus, and probably start have to defending against SE a couple months after its over.
That Coven threw in with SE complicates the situation by making SE's side a credible threat to Sys-K's sov, but doesn't change the political reality that SE declared themselves de-facto hostiles.
Wow, another melodramatic Sys-k faggot, they just keep registering here. SE always wants :goodfights:, they reset Atlas before they reset Sys-k. The extend of SE threat was already felt by Atlas, when they suffered horribly from their roaming gangs and probably lost 2 ratting ravens. That was a crushing blow for Atlas, which would take them years to recover from.
I don't think anybody requested SE to show up, and they, unlike Sys-k, don't really have to or need to suck up to every single Southern alliance and go out of their way to offer assistance. IT and Atlas don't have any choice in this matter. Their options are very limited, if they take SE\C0ven stations in Esoteria, it wouldn't change a thing. Sys-K is Stainwagon's focus now and they won't stop, unless some kind of deal will be worked out, like Sys-K moving completely to Period Basis.
Atlas and IT might as well do whatever they like, their sovereignty isn't under a threat. So they can go campaigning or on a roadtrip, but Sys-k is not going anywhere. They are grounded for not supporting their long term ally and actively trying to assist those, who were willing to invade SE.
How much did SE pay you for that lapdance, anyway?
SE had already drifted away from doing much of anything with Sys-K, and were resetting mutual blues for GoodFights. Sys-K were willing to back up Coven over that alt corp drama a month back, with SE I think they just saw the writing on the wall.
Dekanor trolling sys-k, what has this world come to
Sounds like SE should be the real "Against ALL Authorities", they clearly don't give a fuck about much else than shooting whoever they want whenever they want and having fun doing it.
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